Game Development - 2018-03-18

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6:35 AM

@GabrieleVierti what do you mean not fully lit ? There is only one directional light in the scene currently.

Gabriele Vierti

7:06 AM

@UriPopov oh okay that's why

You could maybe add a permanent(really dim) point light in front of the character, just to make him a little more visible ;)

@GabrieleVierti that is not a bad idea. I'm in no way a lighting artist so I dont really know what I'm doing. Perhaps even a baked light that cast no shadows ? Just to emphasis the character ?

Gabriele Vierti

7:24 AM

@UriPopov yeah, maybe ;)

could work

Gabriele Vierti

7:55 AM

@UriPopov what kind of game are you developing?

action adventure

dark fantasy setting

Gabriele Vierti

Nice! :D

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Gabriele Vierti

10:38 AM

my god PBR is so complicated and interesting at the same time

user92578

11:28 AM

user image

user92578

Done with the UI rewrite

Gabriele Vierti

12:58 PM

@Tyyppi_77 nice! I think you should show the 'loading..' text until everything is already loaded instead of showing it, and then loading the slots with their content

For a fraction of a second you can see a blue-ish background

Still, that's pretty awesome dude

user92578

Yeah that's intentional, thumbnail showing is not essential

Gabriele Vierti

Oh okay

You could change the color from blue to grey

That'd make it less visible

user92578

1:14 PM

Thanks yeah I think I'll try just an empty box

Gabriele Vierti

1:32 PM

np

user92578

yeah empty box works good

Gabriele Vierti

2:48 PM

@Tyyppi_77 thought so :P

3:38 PM

We just released an early version of a competitive multiplayer platformer. Here's what it looks like https://www.reddit.com/r/jumpai/comments/85b9gs/jumpa%C3%AF_v02_open_to_the_public/

What do you guys think? Players can build their own levels, they compete for the leaderboard and can watch replays. It's designed to appeal to a competitive audience.

I'm looking for feedback, if you are interested there's a discord link in the Reddit comments from that link above.

user92578

3:55 PM

.jar? ugh

Yes it's made in Java. You need JRE to open jars

If you are playing tell me your username, I will join you

user92578

the level editor needs a scrollbar for the things on the right

Thanks for the feedback, you can use the wheel for now. What is your in game name?

user92578

Tyyppi_77

Once you exit the editor you should see me

You can press F9 for the chat

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6:30 PM

Guys how bad is it if my game requires DirectX11 or 12

like how many people I'm I screwing out of the experience ?

Stephane Hockenhull

For this I'd check steam's hardware survey

@UriPopov store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

oh man great idea

Stephane Hockenhull

According to this (thank you Steam, praise lord Gaben!) even if you dropped DX11 you'd only be leaving out 3.66% of the Steam market.

2.56% for < DX11

cool Well at least I have this going for me

Stephane Hockenhull

It's a bit more brutal for OSX (lots more macs with "DX10"-level feature set OpenGL) but that's just 1.33% of the market

There's still lots of OSX machines around with OpenGL 3.x (which is somewhere between DX10 and DX11 in terms of capabilities/extensions) if that is more your target market users.

These Steam numbers are skewed to be representative of the DOTA/PUBG market

6:44 PM

They are also skewed because they don't count markets that steam is not available for and it doesn't count people who don't fill out surveys.

Stephane Hockenhull

If you make a puzzle game I'm guestimating you can expect more potential customers with DX10 hardware.

Yeah, what @nwp says.

I dont care about macs. We are going to release the game for Windows and only on steam for starters

I wish steam didn't exist :(

Stephane Hockenhull

It's why I always fill the survey when it pops up and I happen to be on my Linux machine and decline it when it happens to asks me on my Windows machine :D

> 16 cpus 0.01% 0.00%
> 32 cpus 0.00% 0.00%
I feel so under-represented :P

> Simplified Chinese 63.93% -3.46%

Whoa

Did they happen to survey all the gold farmers at once?

What does 63.93% -3.46% mean here?

Stephane Hockenhull

6:53 PM

the 2nd number is the change from the previous survey

The first is the proportion of the users computer's language setting.

Interesting. There are a lot of chinese out there, so it may not be completely bogus.

Stephane Hockenhull

Well, it's about 33% of the world population so maybe it's just they all accept the survey while the rest of the world has a higher proportion that prefers not to.

I thought "the users computer's language setting" meant it counted basically everyone and didn't require a survey.

Stephane Hockenhull

Nah, you have to accept to answer the survey... But maybe you don't in China and Steam can just survey those without pesky privacy laws...

Steam: "Participation in the survey is optional, and anonymous."

But OS language settings don't require participation in a survey.

That's like calculating the average number of titles owned, steam can do that without surveys.

Stephane Hockenhull

7:02 PM

The Steam "survey" is automatic. You don't fill a form, you just click "yes" and it checks your computer for all that info.

Oh.

"survey" is a bit misleading here.

Stephane Hockenhull

I guess the numbers make sense if practically nobody in Africa and India uses Steam.

Once you remove those the 33% of world population in China weights in a lot.

Stephane Hockenhull

7:26 PM

Ah right, sorry that 33% was Asia in total.

So that 66% is even more surprising :P

Stephane Hockenhull

7:38 PM

@nwp I wish the Steam survey chart was also available normalised according to spending/purchases and game type markets.
eg: if 99% of players are only buying playing 3 games every 2 years vs 1% of players purchasing >300 games. That could skew the numbers too.

Steam probably offers that information for some compensation.

Stephane Hockenhull

Yeah. They're already super nice to offer those charts for free.

Stephane Hockenhull

8:00 PM

I guess it's their way to incentivise people to fill in the survey

How? The data does not depend on if they allowed the data collection.

It would make more sense that only participants are allowed to see the data.

Stephane Hockenhull

8:25 PM

Because of fanboy-ism

And just the fact that they're not keeping it all to themselves. It feels less one-sided "evil".

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