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One of my friends GF works for Environment Canada and told me that one of the persons that was doing forecasting was a kind of fatalist in his reading of the data and was often forecasting more than what would come..

PearsonArtPhoto

Of course, that was pretty much the only winter we had this year, so...

Jon

being a weather forecasting must be great

doesn't matter if you are wrong

Alexandre Vaillancourt

Exactly :P

I think you really have to be a nerd about science though, because it must get boring after some time...

DH.

12:01 PM

Because you already expect that they will be wrong, since weather is a crazy bitch

PearsonArtPhoto

If you are really wrong, you get pretty a lot of grief, but...

Jon

weather is like an ex wife

Alexandre Vaillancourt

I wouldn't know...

Jon

12:13 PM

Beijing Subway, Line 13, morning rush hour - just a little crowded

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i would kill myself if i had to do this every day

Martin Sojka

@Jon Never move to work in Cologne then.

DH.

Don't forget that the air would be already killing you in China, no need to commit suicide

Jon

:(

DH.

Did you guys see the video of the traffic in the highways due to their "4 of July"?

It's another chinese nightmare

Jon

check this one out, lol

streamable.com/lsb6

This video apparently made thailand news -- they were disgusted by these chinese tourists, mainly because they didn't eat 2/3 of the food they took

Alexandre Vaillancourt

12:20 PM

@Jon That's kind of dumb: stupid ppl cause train delays because they prevent doors from shutting, and delays cause ppl to because stupid.

Talk about a system that does not scale...!

Jon

the world doesn't scale well for humans, no

Alexandre Vaillancourt

Nope.

Jon

In canada, we cull a bunch of seals every year

because they are overpopulating and eating all the fish

Alexandre Vaillancourt

And because there are not enough white bear to eat them...

Jon

Maybe we need an overseer to do the same to humans.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

12:22 PM

because their turf gets reduced year after year..

Yeah, but if you do that, you'll end up with less money..

Jon

easy solution -- take all the assets of the people you cull, and give it to wealthy oil execs

Alexandre Vaillancourt

That's not fair, but that's a sensible way to do it. They already have most of the assets already.

Almo

problem with humans is their populations expand very quickly to consume available resources whose availability changes on a timescale longer than our generations.

so when the availability drops, famine and war show up

Jon

yeah that is one of the problems -- the other main problem, is that we have a requirement of making as much money is the least amount of time possible, because we are selfish pieces of shit

Almo

Jared Diamond wrote a great book call Collapse which deals with this

subtitle is "how societies choose to fail or succeed" (italics mine)

eskimos live up in greenland for a long time and don't deplete the resources, so they're fine. Vikings show up and fuck everything up in a short span of time

PearsonArtPhoto

12:30 PM

Weekly update on my sea trading game. kd7uiy.com/2016/03/sea-trading-game-ease-of-trading-new.html

Almo

have a star. :)

PearsonArtPhoto

Thanks:-)

Jon

A Link to the Past - In 10 Minutes

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PearsonArtPhoto

Also, an updated demo of my game: gamebucket.io/game/1cc42ddb-0df1-4fee-a4b2-5e7308810a24

I'm really hoping this week to either start doing some fun stuff, like requiring supplies to continue the voyage, or at least fix a number of little bugs to prepare the way forward.

Jon

Trump wants to build a 10 billion dollar wall, when asked why its so expensive, he said, "its a wall"

DH.

12:45 PM

The wall supposed to stop immigration?

PearsonArtPhoto

Trump is, well, something...

Jon

It will be built.

Because americans are fucken idiots.

no offense.

PearsonArtPhoto

I think he's going to lose the next few elections pretty soundly, and hopefully that'll help some.

Jon

Why focus on improving health care.. when you can build a 10 billion dollar wall

PearsonArtPhoto

Trump won't be the president, but I'm beginning to wonder the same thing myself...

Jon

12:46 PM

You really think he is going to lose????

You are wrong.

PearsonArtPhoto

I think he doesn't stand a chance in the general election, but will likely win the primary.

Jon

You are underestimating the stupidity that is americans

you seriously think clinton is going to take trump down?

HAHAHA

PearsonArtPhoto

Utah, which is often the most highly voting Republican state in the country, has polled as voting for Clinton over Trump in the general election.

There's just too many Republicans that will not vote for Trump for him to have a good chance of winning.

DH.

Trump can't win for the good of the world

Jon

all polls are saying trump will win over clinton

not only that, but clinton is under investigation by the FBI ffs

DH.

12:50 PM

With his stupidity he will certainly dispatch troops and make all sort of shit

Jon

the only way you are not going to have a trump president, is through sanders

PearsonArtPhoto

realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/…

Jon

And his chances are fucken slim

PearsonArtPhoto

Clinton has a 5-10 point lead over Trump in all of the polls there, save one.

DH.

Sanders seems to be the "less worse" option

PearsonArtPhoto

12:51 PM

I'm no fan of Clinton either. Right now I'm prepared to vote third party.

Jon

Do you want true change? or do you want corruption and status quo?

People need to stop accepting that people that write laws and make decisions for your country, are being bribed

They call it something else, but its fucken bribery

Just because it is legal doesn't make it RIGHT

PearsonArtPhoto

Kasich is by far the most likely Republican to win in the general election, and the only person still in either the Democratic or Republican party that I could vote for without hesitation.

Sanders I believe has the morals to be president, I just disagree with his political views.

DH.

Jon, you mean how politicians receive money from companies during the elections?

PearsonArtPhoto

Cruz, well, I'm not really a fan of his either...

I would likely vote for him over Clinton or a third party, but...

Almo

@Jon yeah, that's true man

Cruz is dangerous because he's 1) uncompromising 2) disdainful of science due to his religion

Jon

12:58 PM

@DH. yeah, but this is the thing, it is not only during elections

PearsonArtPhoto

Clinton is dangerous because she seems above the law, and just does things her own way...

Jon

politicians are bought like baseball players

somehow, it is ok for a private company to give a ton of money to someone that makes decisions for millions of people.

somehow, that doesn't corrupt these fine individuals

And those companies, do it because they are kind, and don't expect anything in return.

That is how capitalism works

Jon

1:12 PM

:D

Vote against corruption.

Otherwise, nothing will get better.

Wardy

@Jon there is no option for that in the UK

PearsonArtPhoto

That's Trump's argument, vote for me, I can't be corrupted as I'm already rich.

Wardy

you are ultimately voting one corrupt idiot against another

@PearsonArtPhoto he can't be corrupted because to corrupt him would simply make life better with him as president

no politician wants that

DH.

Saying this is defying human's greed

user92578

1:30 PM

Good afternoon

Alexandre Vaillancourt

No, it's morning! ;)

user92578

Currently trying to write a presentation about hydrogen for tomorrow's chemistry class

user92578

Oh, and because I love you guys boosting my ego, I'll spam this again here today now that there are people here: gunhero.surge.sh/#WeeklyUpdate4

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OMGtechy

1:47 PM

yaaay :D

PearsonArtPhoto

@Tyyppi_77 So you get a star for both your posts relating to this weeks update, I barely get 1 for mine... Sigh.

user92578

Both?

user92578

I tend to fish for stars each week

PearsonArtPhoto

LOL.

user92578

And last week's post has nicely went out of the star board

OMGtechy

1:55 PM

hmm I want to build a gaming PC again but I don't want to spend any money

#firstworldproblems

PearsonArtPhoto

I had thought I saw one from you recently... Oh well.

user92578

5th post that is not fitting the star board

Kevin van der Velden

@OMGtechy well then the solution is easy! Steal the parts.

OMGtechy

wow why didn't I think of that

Kevin van der Velden

Or threaten, or lie

I don't think murder helps in this case though

OMGtechy

2:02 PM

nobody to claim you stole it

YOU KNOW NOTHING

user92578

murder always helps

OMGtechy

I WILL FIND YOU

Jon

not if i bury myself

user92578

remove "next"

Jon

yeah

Wardy

2:08 PM

"Great! Click to continue"

Jon

its not click though

Wardy

it's obvious thats a next button surely ?

Jon

it will be mobile.

Wardy

ok press to continue

Jon

Yeah, this is just for the tutorial levels

Wardy

2:08 PM

but you see my point right?

Jon

no i'm too stupid :P

Thank you for the great feedback though

OMGtechy

@Jon perhaps you should just change the button so it says "continue" and leave it out of the main text box altogether

Jon

naw, i have witty messages in that box later on

OMGtechy

more space for witty messages then :D

Jon

The tutorial have a friendly, click next message

Then after the tutorial, it starts harrassing you

Martin Sojka

2:11 PM

Wait until it starts telling "Yo momma" jokes.

OMGtechy

Yo mamma is so ugly when she tried to join an ugly contest they said, "Sorry, no professionals."

yes I stole it from google

Almo

@Wardy mobile games usually say "tap" or "touch" for "press"

also, no space before the !

lookin nice though!

Jon

yo mama is so fat, she has diabetes and high blood pressure, and might die if she doesn't do something about it

Wardy

@Almo i shall return to my hole ... this mobile world is annoying

Almo

hahah :)

I agree though, the mobile world IS annoying

Wardy

2:13 PM

@Jon well stop feeding her donuts then

Almo

almost as bad as web...

OMGtechy

can't they all have one screen size with one OS version and be done with it?

Wardy

@Almo hey web is an awesome world of standards that noone implements ... that's what we all want right?

Almo

hahah :D

OMGtechy

tbh if I didn't have to deal with aspect ratios that'd be 99% of what annoys me sorted

Jon

2:16 PM

i deal with it in my way

works great

Wardy

@Jon completely ignoring it ... seems legit!

Almo

@OMGtechy AGREED

i fukin hate the aspect ratio issue

Jon

2:42 PM

the trick is to ignore it yeah

Almo

or freeze it

few devices are so weird that letterboxing it is an issue

I letterboxed Cognizer, seems ok

user92578

I used to let SDL letterbox & scale the game

user92578

However their implementation was full of floating point rounding issues

user92578

Resulting in really annoying and broken seems between tiles

Almo

:(

user92578

2:45 PM

Nowadays I just render the gameplay with a scaling factor depending on the resolution and UI is constant-sized

Jon

^

That is exactly what I do

I also hide a penis in every single game I make.. betcha didn't find the one in picross touch

DH.

Fight Club feelings?

Wardy

@Jon it'll be in a level somewhere lol

user92578

@Jon Found the one in Gorb: (NSFW) imgur.com/JYmwcSh

Almo

probably a level that's not on the menu

user92578

2:52 PM

That's really obvious, I'm very disappointed

Wardy

@Tyyppi_77 LMAO

Jon

lmao

Wardy

@Jon why is that funny?

i used to play that game for hours when I was a learning to solve logic problems

Jon

I am not laughing at that

Jon

3:39 PM

How It’s Made Worcestershire Sauce

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yuck.

who the hell invented this?

user4704

Mmmm.

user4704

Tasty.

Jon

some dude wondered how he could make money off compost

user4704

The Greeks actually.

user4704

Oh, Romans apparently. Close enough.

user4704

3:41 PM

They made a fermented anchovy sauce that is the basic precursor to modern Worcestershire.

user4704

And also easier to spell.

user4704

The actual production process of anything fermented is a bit O_o though.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

...kombucha!

Martin Sojka

@Jon Well, now I'm hungry.

Kevin van der Velden

3:56 PM

@JoshPetrie yeah, just don't drink or eat fermented stuff. Makes life way better

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Martin Sojka

A life without kimchi isn't worth living.

Or for that matter Sauerkraut.

Almo

fuck sauerkraut

Alexandre Vaillancourt

De la bonneu choucrouteu!

Kevin van der Velden

@MartinSojka I was talking about alcohol myself =p

user92578

That's a nice edit @JoshPetrie gamedev.stackexchange.com/posts/118602/revisions

user4704

4:13 PM

Probably still too broad, but at least better.

Jon

4:40 PM

you know, i was thinking

What if microsoft revived XNA

they did recently purchase xamarin

A XNA revival would be pretty gangster, i wonder if they actually have the balls

user4704

Xamarin really has nothing to do with XNA?

Jon

xamarin would provide the bridge between c# and mobile

Wardy

XNA + xamarin + a multiplatform version of the DX API is my dream game engine!

Jon

for .net core

user4704

I quite doubt they would do that in any event.

Wardy

4:41 PM

perhaps with a VS extension too though ... something that can give the unity experience built in to VS

user4704

They were decidedly uninterested in XNA after, basically, year one.

Wardy

@JoshPetrie shame huh :(

OMGtechy

user4704

Romeo and Juliet is a horrible love story.

Jon

The reason it was started in the first place, was to encourage people to write games for the xbox

Then when that didn't pan out as they had hoped, they didn't give a crap about it anymore.

Clearly, the community liked it

DH.

4:43 PM

Bastion was made with XNA, wasn't?

Jon

yeah

user4704

I think they prototyped it using it, yeah. I don't know how far along that survived once they started porting it.

Jon

terraria

erebel55

I like Romeo and Juliet lol

MarfGamer

4:58 PM

I've been trying to get an entity system but I don't know how to get rendering cleanly done

I tried putting a "Sprite" object in the constructor for the class, but it doesn't feel like

a good way to do it

user4704

Not everything needs to be part of a "entity system"

user4704

Rendering, in particular, really shouldn't be.

MarfGamer

How would I tie sprites to the entities though?

user4704

You should have a component that can describe visual properties an entity might have.

MarfGamer

oh

user4704

4:59 PM

And that's basically it.

MarfGamer

So have a config file that basically has the class path and the entity sprite path as the value?

user4704

For example, I tend to create a "portrayal" component.

user4704

All a portrayal is is basically a list of meshes and/or sprites.

MarfGamer

E.g. org.game.test=/org/game/sprites/entitytest.spt

user4704

And possibly relative transforms based on the entity's aspect component origin to place them.

MarfGamer

5:01 PM

SPT is a special sprite format I created to merge all the pngs for animations and poses into one file

Alright, should I do collsion detection based on the sprite images?

DH.

If you really need pixel level detection I highly recommend making a different image, just to be it's mask

Or just make a bounding box really, the default size could be width x height of the image, but most of the time you will want to crop that

MarfGamer

Should I do a file where depending on the pose and animation frame, there are a list of new rectangle bounds?

I think that would work best, and would make it easier on the engine because it wouldn't have to go through and make a bounding rectangle for each non-invisible pixel

Jon

the easiest form of collision detection, is going to be a rectangle collider

MarfGamer

I'll do that then, should I package the rectangle collider with the actual sprite compiler or just have the engine load it from another file?

Jon

really depends on what you are doing

DH.

5:08 PM

In theory a collision mask is tied up to it's sprite... but I don't know, I never made config files, it was always hard coded constants in a global source

Alexandre Vaillancourt

How about a circular collider? :P

Almo

"really depends on what you are doing" answer to so many things

Jon

do you want to write a game engine, have it parse the images, and create collision boxes? Or do you want to define the collisions yourself? Or do you want to read it via an xml file?

MarfGamer

@Jon I want to define the collisions myself

Jon

Write a way to set the collider rect for your entities

you could tie it to the sprites, but again, that would depend on how you want to store the data defining your entities. Do you want each frame to have its own collider?

MarfGamer

5:11 PM

@Jon Yes

Jon

If so, then you might want to store the collision information along with your spritesheet data.

MarfGamer

I'll do that then

Jon

DH.

@AlexandreVaillancourt These are simple to detect collision, but It depends on how your sprites are

MarfGamer

@Jon I was thinking of doing something like that at first, in fact, the engine already detects that way

user92578

5:12 PM

I really rarely use boundings that are the same size of the sprite in my game

Jon

This creates problems

MarfGamer

But I was thinking when someone was running and their arms were stretched out alot farther away from their body would look really weird if the bullet disapearred in mid air and caused damage to the entity/player

Alexandre Vaillancourt

@DH. Yeah, the ':P' part was about it. It really doesn't give the same result hehe

Jon

5:32 PM

Unity UI... oh hey, your button no longer responds for no reason, mmmm okay

So to adjust the sorting order of a UI element, you need to add a "Canvas" component

But if that UI element is a button, adding a secondary Canvas element ends up killing the event manager

Aidan Mueller

@JoshPetrie I pronounce it like it's spelled. Wor-kess-ter-shire.

Almo

UK people say "worsta sohs"

Aidan Mueller

I'm thinking about giving up with the whole "care-uh-mel" vs "car-mle". Just go full PronunciationManual on it. Pronounce "caramel" as "Cruh-mle".

Almo

5:58 PM

:D

Aidan Mueller

No. Croom-lay

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