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8:00 PM
cool
can i have that btw?
 
Yeah, I always save and have off site source control.
 
;-; I need to post the link on my blog but sure - let me go grab it.
 
thanks!
 
@Byte56 This is the way to go.
 
It's also pretty much required when working with someone else :)
 
@CodeAssassin thanks!
 
Speaking of, I'm going to focus on development now. So later!
 
latah @Byte56!
 
8:08 PM
YO YO MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 
(click Byte56's link and edumacate yourself)
@Byte56 You like classical music?
 
i looked at it :D
 
So then you must know who Yo-Yo Ma is.
 
can anyone here (or not here @ChristianCareaga ) teach me about python classes and self.x stuff?
 
8:22 PM
I am not familiar with Python. Sorry
BUT
 
thanks :D
 
@CodeAssassin just completed minimal
and I've got some feed backs :D
 
i looked at it in Unity. its pretty cool!
 
a) it has too much text, no one cares to read that much
b) it's very hard to tell what is at what layer, you need to distinguish levels a bit more.
b.1) you can you different gray shades to do so.
 
@Gajoo O:
@Gajoo Awww snap ;-;
@Gajoo Of course.
 
8:26 PM
b.2) you can change make their depth difference higher
c) the game finished way too soon, I was just learning what is what in the game, you need many more levels
 
@Gajoo Haha yeah cliff hanga!
@Gajoo If I want to sell it - I'll need more levels better graphics and multiplayer support(I have quite a few ideas when it comes to this) - but yeah I want to pursue it's development in the future ^_^ and potentially sell it if it's fun enough.
 
d) the music was awesome, though need to work on it's looping
 
@Gajoo Yeah - I made it play once :<
 
@CodeAssassin it was playing more than once, it just didn't loop that well
 
@Gajoo gaaaaaaaah
They judges are probably going to penalize me for that
dammit. Oh well - I'll fix that in the post compo version.... :P
 
8:28 PM
@CodeAssassin it might just be my taste, but I liked the graphics
 
I was thinking combine the squares with something like:
So i had an artist - then he left meh!
 
@CodeAssassin if that's your idea of making it look better, you don't really need an artist :P
 
@Gajoo haha he never textured it. so of course it looks bland -he really was a good artist though.
 
8:41 PM
@CodeAssassin do you want to go over some stuff with me for my current project?
pleeeaasssseee
 
@PythonInProgress okay sure
 
tnx!
@CodeAssassin ill send you a link to a google drive file in two mins or so
 
@CodeAssassin i havnt added anything yet, but: docs.google.com/document/d/…
anyone who wants to help with my game, comment here: docs.google.com/document/d/…
 
what if I don't want to help? what then?
 
8:54 PM
view at your own risk, and dont steal the game
 
Risk is a fun game...
 
So you need help with finding a good game idea @PythonInProgress
 
no
@CodeAssassin i have the idea and basic setup done
but need to decide the format of the game, an RPG
 
Okay so generally a Dungeon Crawler consists of looting and killing enemies
 
8:57 PM
it can be turn based or real time but most of the time it's turn based. If you want yours to be unique you can attempt to make it realtime
Turn Based is - for example
 
ik what it is
complete the actions, then the AI's turn?
 
did u read the third idea i typed?
 
Depending on what action it is you may take up more terms who knows. Maybe if you craft it takes up 3 terms.
hmm... I haven't read the third idea let me check
 
k
*turns btw, not terms
 
8:58 PM
lol
Forgive me :P
 
tbh, PiP, I think you're thinking waaaaaay above your head here.
have you finished a game yet?
 
yes
very short ones tho
 
@IcyDefiance Let him do what he wants man - he'll figure it out :P
 
eh, fair enough
 
8:59 PM
also, Icy
 
just a semi-friendly warning
 
I'm never too friendly. It'll ruin my reputation.
 
ahh
i see, defiance
 
@PythonInProgress Icy is right - I struggled with procedural gen - and still do sometimes. Algorithm Implementation is a whole 'nother beast
TRUST. Me.
 
9:00 PM
O.
K.
fine
 
@IcyDefiance be nice ;-----;;;
 
no procedural
 
@PythonInProgress hey no - don't get discouraged
 
In fact I applaud you if you want to do it
 
9:00 PM
Omgoodness I'm suddenly craving Dr. Pepper.
 
being nice is for social studies, not CS
 
@ToddersLegrande Same here :<
 
i am 2 todders, ignore it
 
well I guess CS people would take offense at gamedev being called CS, but meh
 
9:01 PM
@ToddersLegrande I miss the taste lol.... something about Dr.Pepper... tastes like... TASTY PEPPER
 
@CodeAssassin i agree
++
anyhow
 
@PythonInProgress Right so don't get discouraged but take it in steps. Have you ever implemented a complex algorithm before? It's things like these - now depending on your determination and skill level you might be able to do it without much of a struggle.
 
yeah
but not for programming a game
i made a dice roller that was HUGELY complicated....... WAY more than i chould have done
i didnt know about the random.randrange() function then
 
@PythonInProgress Did you use the built in -rand function :P
 
if you do want to do this, work on tech demos first, not the game itself. make something to just generate the world and see if you can make it work right.
one thing at a time.
 
9:03 PM
kk
 
@IcyDefiance hit it on the nail(INTERNET FIVEZ)
 
btw i need a map editor now
 
No biggy - do you know how to save and read files yet?
 
you still act 12 btw @CodeAssassin
 
@PythonInProgress I'm actually 9 years old.
 
9:04 PM
yeah, freaking complicated tho, the way i don't use classes, which is a mistake
@CodeAssassin liez, all liez
 
@PythonInProgress Use classes. Trust me - don't make ANYTHING without them. You'll end up having your whole game in 2 files(I've done this before)
 
always use classes.
 
ik that
 
@PythonInProgress Then better start using em :/
 
havnt used them yet, read a whole CRAPTON of documentation today about them
 
9:05 PM
Alright so this is what I would do:
@PythonInProgress Do a little program TODAY don't wait for tmmrw man. Make everyday like it's your last.
 
fail
:P
 
its 5:00 already for me :D
 
use too many classes, then get caught in a maze of functions where you don't know what's where anymore, then add a few pointers that are created in a class and returned to a parent class, and then give up because you can no longer even figure out which file your game loop is in anymore. :D
 
:D
@CodeAssassin so, what else? what should i make first
i cant make levels yet, already have the basic inventory set up
(but still have to change it to a class)
 
9:09 PM
I assume you have a player running around and stuff so that's good. A level editor might be what I want to make next. You don't want the dungeons to be procedurally generated so you can work on making some sort of debug level or something to test in.
 
k
i do not have the player except for him as an inventory/name
should probs make him :P
wo0t! I just hit over 75 rep!!!!!!! (as a side note)
 
Okay then - make a player - decided on if you want gridded movement(usually associated with turnbased games) or smooth-movement(realtime like most top-down games).
 
yes. gridded
definately
ill make a test level then
 
good stuff. Don't manually code it - make sure you use a data-structure to store your maps and a loop for rendering.
 
i cant manually code the player @CodeAssassin?
oh u meant the maps
just thought of something horrible...... I HAVE TO WRITE AN AI
 
9:15 PM
bah, AI is the most fun part of any game.
 
You probably want an array or something - or something dynamic depending on if you want your rooms different sizes(you'll need a camera then).
@IcyDefiance Yes
@PythonInProgress Worry about that later :P
 
k
arrays again......
i have had bad experiances with those
that breakout game i made, i could not get them to work like i wanted :P
 
arrays are kind of essential to programming in general.
 
ik
it works now
i was using it wrong
 
no avoiding arrays or classes.
smacks pip
 
9:17 PM
recoils
smacks Icy back, harder
 
so rude
 
so
@CodeAssassin should i use the lib i usually do for graphics?
 
@PythonInProgress Of course. Unless you want to use something else
 
im sorta used to it, plus it has a clock that i can use for ticks... idk tho
maybe its not the best.... but i like it
internal debate rages in my head
whatever, ill use it
 
There are going to be people who tell you that this technology is superior to this one because of X and Y and they may be right
 
9:20 PM
:D
 
but don't let it stop you. You use whatever YOU want to use - and whatever is most effective for you.
 
k
im going to put this on github so i have no excuse to slack off
 
@PythonInProgress Good stuff. Open-Source?
 
for now
if i end up publishing it, no
 
"There are going to be people who tell you that this technology is superior to this one because of X and Y and they may be right"
BitBucket > GitHub
<_<
 
9:22 PM
@IcyDefiance dammit
 
i like github
too bad icy
 
puts on fanboy shirt
 
lol
I just switched to BitBucket for the free private repositories. that's the only big difference I've noticed yet.
 
So I've used Atlassian's Bit Bucket and...............
 
@IcyDefiance Team Foundation Server > All (when using Visual Studio)
 
9:23 PM
rips code's fanboy shirt off (he conveintly put it on over his other shirt), flushes it down the toilet
 
uhhhhhhhhhh
 
SEXUAL HARASSMENT
 
9:24 PM
Yes, I am being harassed. Help!
@Byte56 Do something!!! Help me.
 
i fixed it
 
okay! I'll help him harass you!
 
oh wait, that's what you wanted, right?
 
9:24 PM
 
@IcyDefiance Little did you know I was Chuck Norris. I dispatched of you fiends and made you eat your own feces. Twice.
 
This is out of control
 
I better just go buy some Dr. Pepper
 
I think you should stop Icy. You are becoming a catalyst for some ugly conversation. Thank you for understanding. (lol)
 
9:26 PM
fun fact: Chuck Norris jokes originally were mocking him, not praising him, because his TV show was so retarded.
 
@IcyDefiance Chuck Norris is better than all the things.
 
@ToddersLegrande wow. just wow
 
then people took them literally instead of sarcastically and the jokes themselves seem to be the cause of a lot of his popularity
 
that song....
 
And now you know better
 
9:27 PM
@IcyDefiance You're right.. some people.
 
the vast majority of people
 
@IcyDefiance The internet.
 
as far as proportions go, I'd think the internet took them sarcastically more than the non-internet did
 
ummmmm.... @ToddersLegrande? this video was a featured one for your video
wow
 
We can never know for sure. They should but this on the ........
@PythonInProgress ..... That's not right.
 
9:29 PM
@PythonInProgress do you like the video you linked?
 
no
read the comments tho
 
Did you feel it was something good to share?
 
@ToddersLegrande rofl
 
9:30 PM
Then DONT DO IT
 
i didnt?
 
Removing the post doesn't mean it didn't happen -_-
 
look at the top starred post
 
9:31 PM
The one I asked a mod to sticky? I've seen it
 
++ Code, so tempted to star it....
@ToddersLegrande yeah. it relates :P
 
too far
the arm cant actually bend that far
 
I'm more concerned about the length of his forearm
 
@IcyDefiance Ouch.
 
9:32 PM
yeah....
i should probably stop procrastinating and start working @CodeAssassin.... its been about 1/2 an hour so far.....
 
@PythonInProgress Good luck man =) Go for it.
 
@CodeAssassin thanks. I'm installing GitHub now.
 
9:54 PM
@CodeAssassin the game ended up being called Thepira.... ill explain later
hey @Jon
 
Jon
hey
 
whats up?
 
Jon
healing.
 
Jon
I shattered and dislocated my ankle last friday
had surgery -- finally able to sit at a computer
 
9:59 PM
@Jon Sorry man D:
If it's not too personal... how'd it happen?
 
Jon
yeah, sucks big time.
 
ooh..
wow
 
Jon
I was mountain biking
went down a steep hill, that was wet.
ankle rolled under the bike
 
that sucks.
 
Jon
it was nasty... it was like something you would see in a youtube video
 
10:00 PM
@Jon ACK!
 
Jon
i looked at my foot, and laid back down and tried to relax.
 
@Jon Jesus man.... I would be screaming at the top of lungs
 
Jon
oh, i screamed twice
 
@Jon lol good grief.
 
Jon
10:00 PM
which gathered attention
 
I did the same to my arm
when I was yonger
*younger
except I never shattered it
just broke it
 
Jon
i got two incisions, one on each side... about 15 staples on each side of my foot
metal and pins holding it all together.
 
@Jon ouch....
 
Jon
Worst injury I ever had... i'm crippled beyond belief
Now that I am slightly better, I can start coding again though :)
 
:D
my dad did the same to his knee in a car crash @Jon
 
10:03 PM
@Jon I hope you heal fast. Stay strong :)
 
Jon
pic of the reconstructed ankle: i.imgur.com/fyMBoDt.jpg
 
do i want to see that?
 
Jon
its not bad.. that was a day after surgery
 
wow
bleeding still? or opened up?
 
Jon
i'm not allowed to remove the bandages at this point
but seems to have stopped bleeding
 
10:04 PM
that sucks.
end of conversation.
:P
 
Jon
lol yeah
 
so
what language do you use again?
 
Jon
C# is my main
 
ever used python?
 
Jon
Yeah, I used to do the euler challenges with python
 
10:06 PM
Victory
finally, someone else who knows python
you be willing to help me?
 
Jon
sure, if I can.
 
@Jon I would be playing video games right now if I was injured :P
 
as you can see, i JUST STARTED
@CodeAssassin you can look too
 
Jon
There is nothing to see here yet.

Move along now.
 
10:09 PM
:P
 
Jon
@CodeAssassin I was playing video games earlier :)
 
@Jon Oh snap :P
 
Jon
don't say snap
@PythonInProgress that link is dead bro
well, no code/
 
@Jon there isnt
crap.....
 
Jon
git problems?
 
10:17 PM
I always say "OH SNAP" whatcha gonna do about it boy????
 
@Jon yeah. forgot to publish it..... it should be uploading now
at least the readme is there @Jon
the code is missing D:
 
such a commanding file
 
yeah.... SHUT IT ICY
 
but VS is patching. I'm so bored. :(
 
Jon
@PythonInProgress Nice Readme
 
10:24 PM
?
 
Jon
whats with the name?
 
is that a compliment or sarcasm?
 
Jon
well I was looking to see code... so sarcasm.
 
i was messing with "Pip"
so: Le Pip
turned into Lepira
that sounded to much like Leper
 
Jon
I had come up with the name "Car of Anir" -- A middle eastern car driving drug smuggler. Based off of "Caravaneer"
 
10:26 PM
so, Le is "the" in Spanish
wow
 
Jon
You seem to have overthought that a little.
 
yep
i dont care
i may change it
its fine
you want to contribute? yes or no (probably final)
 
Jon
contribute in what way?
 
idk
@Jon code, ideas, helping me with code i dont understand :P
if you want to
 
Jon
I'll help, but I'm still working on my game though
 
10:29 PM
k
 
Jon
Are you using pygame?
 
Jon
cool
 
crap. i forgot to put the lanugage and lib in the desc
u use pygame?
 
Jon
I never used it, but it seems pretty good
 
10:31 PM
:D
i love it for graphics
 
10:56 PM
hey Zedd
 
@Jon Sorry if I offended you man but I don't mean as in physically snapping your leg. The hand gesture...
 
that's actually a very nice render. it would make a good signature I bet.
 
Jon
@CodeAssassin lol, not offended, I thought it was clever
 
11:06 PM
@Jon yay ^_^
in that case... (afk)
 
@CodeAssassin :P
 
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