Game Development

6:10 AM

Go to bed @Todders.

8:39 AM

Yeh @ToddersLegrande, go to bed!

@blue could you try compiling my proxy again?

lots of changes has been made in the past week, and except the server being closed without any errors in Linux I don't spot any other problem!

@Gajoo I'm just at work right now so can't at the moment but can try when I get back if you like ? :)

9:02 AM

Ooh, people are online

I think.....

Anyone here with high rep here or a mod?

If you count 400 rep as high :D

Q: Has piracy ever resulted in a developer getting shut down?

yay

high enough for me

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This question is somewhat taken off of a really interesting game I found browsing the web. Basically, the game's developers, after releasing it for sale, also released a version on a torrent site: The trick was, they put in a mechanic that, after playing for a while, would bring down your sa...

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You're at 6.4k so 400 is shy in comparison, whats up?

DO you think this is offtopic?

(it's only chat rep)

@Retrosaur I think it safely falls under:

•project management (testing, team management, scheduling, publishing, etc)
•game industry (careers, trends, technology, etc)

It's a specific question asking for examples, gives an example of why it is a relevant question and has a very clear, descriptive and neutral tone.

9:09 AM

Alright thanks. I wasn't too sure, but in any case, I"ll give it a bit of time to see what others think. Thanks a lot though, that really helps (i hate downvotes, ocd is bad)

I think it fits perfectly well as a question as it fits into whether your project as a game developer should be affected by a genuine issue present in the industry (piracy)

Well have an upvote regardless.

Danke. To you as well, I might add

@Retrosaur I've editted your tags to be a little more descriptive, will get the right attention that way.

Thanks, I didn't really know how to tag it properly

That's fine mate.

9:13 AM

Also, you have some pretty nice answers

Make yourself a regular, you'll learn a lot fromt he chat room alone.

I liked the one regarding visual distance between objects

Thank you :)

have some rep mate

Always appreciated! I try to take time on an answer to make it more visual

9:16 AM

Of course :D. Still learning the basic ropes of making a game though. And I should really get some sleep. not sleeping for two days is a bad idea

Where are you based?

@Blue that would be great, and sorry for late reply, I wasn't around my laptop

@Retrosaur depends, but it usually is :D

Great stuff @Gajoo

A: Has piracy ever resulted in a developer getting shut down?

9:42 AM

@Retrosaur - Posted an answer

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After a little running around the internet I found an interesting article that shows a good example of how pirating can affect a game directly and shutdown a project. iOS Game, Battle Dungeon, Forced To Shut Down Due To Piracy In this article, Hunted Cow, the developers behind the iOS game Batt...

10:13 AM

Interesting question and good answer.

It could be argued that piracy only brought them down due to really poor game design.

I mean, who allows non-authenticated connections to play their game? :P

I've seen plenty of DRM get broken on cracked autentication to be fair @Bill

Only client side though for single player gameplay.

Cracking the serverside hidden authentication is pretty near impossible.

You don't see people playing WoW without paying. You may see private servers, but not the official server.

When a connection is made, you validate the account and create a session. If the account doesn't exist it ends there. If the account exists but hasn't paid it ends there.

If the same person logs in twice, you invalidate the previous session.

They probably had a keygen for authentication of a paid game. iTunes has terrible authentication at the best of times, pirates can mask themselves as authenticated paid users via iTunes - it's been an issue in the past so much that there are jail broken apps that allow you to get any app in their listing for free but authenticated as paid. I assume as an iOS game it was this authentication the game devs were using.

I don't see a way to beat that, save for gaining access to the server db.

Ah, then it's an iTunes store issue. That's less surprising.

wondershare.com/apple-idevice/how-to-get-free-iphone-apps.html

I think it was around the same time the game devs at Hunted Cow had the same issue

Yep - Feb 2013 within the time that Hunted Cow was on down time

10:21 AM

I see. Then I get why it happened.

It's sad to see a company like Apple being unable to design something secure.

But handheld devices does present a whole array of other things to take into consideration.

They did fix it to be fair.

True.

Trusting in a multimillion dollar corporation for authentication isn't usually an issue. Google, Facebook and Yahoo have great authentication on their apps and as far as I know there are no "Get paid apps for free" on those which don't involve apps buying them on behalf of users.

"Meanwhile at iTunes..."

10:37 AM

you should totally upvote my answer @BillyBoy

11:04 AM

any idea why should "send" raise SIGABRT?

I guess there is no Linux developer around here right now :|

I'm a linux user not exactly a developer.

Is this in Bash/shell?