Game Development

4:00 PM

yeah.... sometimes it's bad though. Like this code I found at my previous job:

if(someCondition)
{
    // some block of code
    // .
    // .
    // .
#ifdef 32BIT_REGS
    foo(1);
}else
#else
}
#endif
bar(2);

And I needed to go in there and add a statement before foo(1); and before bar(2);

Bogdan Marginean

is that thing actually valid?

John McDonald

Yes

// If 32BIT_REGS is defined, then it compiles to:
if(someCondition)
{
    // some block of code
    // .
    // .
    // .
    foo(1);
}else
bar(2);

// If 32BIT_REGS is not defined, then it compiles to:
if(someCondition)
{
    // some block of code
    // .
    // .
    // .
}
bar(2);

Bogdan Marginean

the directive inside the things confused the hell out of me

John McDonald

Oh yeah. So don't get clever when reducing your 6 lines to 4

Bogdan Marginean

which "}" belongs to the if statement?

I'd obviously not do it to make something like this, no worries :P

oh no my bad

nvm

John McDonald

4:04 PM

Both do, just depends on the #ifdef

Bogdan Marginean

I finally managed

to read it

yeah

John McDonald

Yeah...

Bogdan Marginean

makes sense now

I'd honestly extract two different methods from that

and if I had to use the directive it would be like

#ifdef 32BIT_REGS

firstmethod();

#else

secondmethod(); #endif

it's much more readable

John McDonald

yeah, but foo() only runs if it's 32BIT_REGS and if someCondition is true

and bar(2) runs if it's either (32BIT_REGS && !someCondition) || (!32BIT_REGS)

Bogdan Marginean

gimme a sec

John McDonald

4:08 PM

I found a reasonable way to unwind everything and add the statements I needed, but I can't remember what i did

I think it simply involved making a local variable that contained the state of 32BIT_REGS, then used a normal if statement with FULL braces. It's a pet peeve

Bogdan Marginean

Is using the directive twice wrong for you?

you could avoid having the #else near else thingy and make it more readable with

if (someCondition)
{
GeneralBlockOfCode();
#ifdef 32BIT_REGS
foo(1);
#endif
}
#ifdef 32BIT_REGS
else
{
foo(2);
}
#else
foo(2);
#endif

it's now obvious: foo(1); gets called if it's defined

the else branch only when it's defined

otherwise it compiles without it

and with the foo(2);

the else#else got me in your code lol

but this might seem more readable to me only

John McDonald

it works, and yeah, the hanging else was interesting

Bogdan Marginean

in case I could live with a bit of code duplication (not breaking the law of three!)

I would make two functions

containing the someCondition check

function one()
{
if (someCondition)
{
GeneralBlockOfCode();
foo(1);
}
else
{
foo(2);
}
}

function two would be the other one

and use a single directive

#ifdef ... functionone() #else functiontwo(); #endif

naming them appropriately like

functionFor32Bit or something

would also improve things and somehow excuse the code dupl.

lol

loved the refactoring problem you gave me <3

made me forget about my geometry exam

which unfortunately is not as exciting

John McDonald

4:26 PM

I think I solved it like so:

bool 32BitRegs;
#ifdef 32BIT_REGS
32BitRegs = true;
#else
32BitRegs = false;
#endif

if(someCondition)
{
    // some block of code
    // .
    // .
    // .
    if(32BitRegs)
    {
        foo(1);
    }
}

if(!32BitRegs || !someCondition)
{
    bar(2);
}

Bogdan Marginean

that looks good too

it makes no use of an extra function and is more readable than my #ifdef else { } #else foo(2); #endif

it does the 2nd if check all the time though but it's no issue

yup, like yours more

John McDonald

but it also depends on how complex someCondition is, and potentially how large some code block is. If either are long, I might use a variable to store the result then use it twice

Bogdan Marginean

makes sense, yeah

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Hmmm.

I should really figure out a sensible way of calculating combat from unit stats.

Bogdan Marginean

dice rolls!!!

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

4:39 PM

It will be chance based. :P

It's just, I need to figure out exactly how.

Bogdan Marginean

iirc AD&D rules can be used by anyone

copy the crap out of them

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Like. ATK/DEF. 1/1 vs 1/1 would be a 50/50 chance of either side winning.

John McDonald

@BogdanMarginean I'm pretty sure you can't. But you can use Paladin or... something. Let me find the info

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

But... If one attacker was ranged, the other units ATK wouldn't count if the ranged attacker was greater than the attacking units DEF.

Bogdan Marginean

yeah you're right, not sure where I read they're open or something

then again

you can still copy them

John McDonald

4:41 PM

12

Q: Is it legal to develop a game using D&D rules?

For a while now I've been thinking about trying my hand at creating a game similar in spirit and execution to Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale and offshoots. I'd rather not face the full bulk of work in implementing my own RPG system - I'd like to use D&D rules. Now, reading about the subject it seem...

Bogdan Marginean

and say it's not AD&D based

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I could simply use OGL for it.

But this isn't a combat simulation where the player controls units.

Bogdan Marginean

@JohnMcDonald that clears things, thanks :D

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

It's just a matter of who's got the strongest army according to some arbitrary rules.

Bogdan Marginean

can you give me some real life examples?

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

4:43 PM

Me?

Bogdan Marginean

yup

I should use the reply function more often

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Indeed. :P

I don't know what you mean by real life example though.

Bogdan Marginean

say

attacker has 3 ATK, defender has 2 DEF

attacker has a chance of...

75% to successfully hit

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

That's exactly what I'm trying to figure out. :)

I just know a balance in ATK/DEF should result in a 50/50 chance of the battle going either way.

Bogdan Marginean

give this a try smogon.com/dp/articles/damage_formula

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

4:45 PM

No healthpoints either.

Shotgun Ninja

fuck yeah pokemons

Bogdan Marginean

or check around for sample formulas until you get an idea

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Something along the lines of Magic Cards would be suited.

Bogdan Marginean

like in TCGs?

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Yeah

Bogdan Marginean

4:46 PM

I know of very few TCGs and in those that I know of it's usually like

if attack > defense take health equal to attack - defense

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

But in a way that doesn't involve picking a defending unit.

Heroes of Might and Magic auto battle mechanics comes to mind.

Bogdan Marginean

I always wondered if the autocombat actually ran a chess-like simulation

or just compared stats

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Pretty sure it's just stats.

Bogdan Marginean

and calculated a percentage for the chance to win

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I know auto combat would lose units that could be avoided with the simplest of tactics.

Bogdan Marginean

4:48 PM

yeah

when that happened I always thought autocombat can't play

:P

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I could go with something more advanced like picking what to attack. But then I'm making this SIMPLE project less simple.

Bogdan Marginean

I have too little experience to give advice other than take a look at what others did and copy the best parts

after imitating one's work a number of times you end up gaining enough experience to build upon it

or create something entirely new from scratch

at least now you know what would be really 'new'

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I did get some decent results from pitting each units stats against each other, tally it, and then calculate a chance based on that.

This way a ranged unit would have a greater advantage over a group of melee units rather than a group of ranged units.

Bogdan Marginean

@William'MindWorX'Mariager I have Heroes 3 installed and you're soo tempting me to play it right now.

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Haha

Me too. :P

With expansions. :P

Bogdan Marginean

4:52 PM

yup :D

I'd install WoG, but I remember it changes the original files too

I really liked the new creatures when I used to play it

now I'm sticking with the original campaigns in the complete edition

never finished them

John McDonald

Merchants and Marauders uses an interesting dice technique. The higher your ability, the more dice you get to roll, 5 & 6 count as success.

so Attack 3 vs Defence 2 would yield 3 dice vs 2 dice where 5's and 6's are considered successful

kinda different

Jimmy

so it's like Risk sorta

John McDonald

Well... if it's 6 attack vs 3 defence, it's 6 dice vs 3

Jimmy

risk caps out at 3/2 for offense/defense I think

John McDonald

the attacker might roll 2 successes (and 4 fails), and the defender might only roll 1 success and take 1 damage (2-1)

Jimmy

5:05 PM

hmm i see

John McDonald

They added an other layer where each point of damage had to then roll for a location

Jimmy

so it's more like each point gives 33% chance of success. It's ATK - DEF with randomness

John McDonald

This is a pirate game, so mast, crew, cargo, hull, etc.

yeah

Bogdan Marginean

how do you normally do collision checking for lines of sight? do you just perform raycasts inside the cone or somehow use a conical shape for collisions?

I wonder if I can't use some sort of formula given the camera's FOV

the camera's position

and distance between it and objects

that geometry exam would help :P

Jimmy

you have to raycast/scan if you want to take occlusion into account

Bogdan Marginean

5:08 PM

I'm working under unity if it helps: I could just make an invisible mesh with a conical shape and attach colliders to it, but it seems like overkill

Jimmy

since just checking the frustum would still give you things that are hidden by other things

Bogdan Marginean

yeah, good point there

I don't want that

I'm trying to mimic the behavior of the Ignite spell in Arx Fatalis

when the player casts it, all flammable objects in his FOV (up to a given distance) get lit

but those behind walls don't

Jimmy

@JohnMcDonald I feel like I've seen this code before :P

John McDonald

You have

:p

Jimmy

if (someCondition)
{
	 // some code
}
if (32BitRegs && someCondition)
	foo(1);
else
	bar(2);

that's my solution, btw.

John McDonald

5:14 PM

November 2011: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/19?m=2376433#2376433

with the whole conversion from a define to a bool I assume. Not bad

Bogdan Marginean

takes note

Jimmy

yeah, I just spent like 30 seconds staring at it thinking "I suspect foo and bar are mutually exclusive" but it was impossible to tell in the original version

John McDonald

True

ToddersLegrande

5:39 PM

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Bogdan Marginean

anyone seen gameplay from Transistor? the new game from Bastion's devs?

►

looks damn amazing

Jimmy

so far the combat looks sketchy but the ambient music is awesome

Bogdan Marginean

I find the combat to be the most interesting part

Jimmy

the narrator voice might need some work though, he's not nearly as distinctive as Old Man Bastion was

Bogdan Marginean

it's like a combination of... Frozen Synapse

and...

not sure but it reminds me of Septerra Core

maybe because of the time bar

yeah the narrator is a bit unimpressive

Jimmy

5:46 PM

my problem with the time bar is I dont' want this to be "Bastion-but-harder-so-here's-some-time-tricks"

Bogdan Marginean

they could hire morgan freeman :P

Jimmy

I think it's the same VA as Old Man Bastion, they're just trying to work out a "theme" currently for the narrator.

Bogdan Marginean

might be

ToddersLegrande

anyone use / recommend an online password storage service?

Bogdan Marginean

@ToddersLegrande is lastpass desktop only?

I hear people like that

Shotgun Ninja

5:48 PM

@ToddersLegrande That sounds risky.

Bogdan Marginean

@ShotgunNinja Yep, wouldn't store my passwords anywhere other than a USB stick under my pillow lol

Noctrine

I like lastpass

ToddersLegrande

We've got a server here at work and I was just curious if there was something people used for personal use. Would be nice to not have to carry a USB stick around with me :P

Noctrine

Then store the master password on something that people won't get to

It's just a pain when one of my computers loses the lastpass login, and I'm like, at work or something.

ToddersLegrande

I can probably remember the master password

assuming I get to choose it

Noctrine

5:50 PM

you do

ToddersLegrande

Yay for pass phrases

Noctrine

It's pretty neat too, that if someone gets access to your email, and manages to reset your lastpass password it drops any password changes that are recent (since your last change I think). has some nice stuff that warns you when you attempt to use a password that you have used before (assuming you don't use the generator)

ToddersLegrande

@BogdanMarginean @Noctrine Thanks. I'll check that one out

ToddersLegrande

6:14 PM

Lastpass does seem pretty cool

ToddersLegrande

6:25 PM

Feels like a winner. Thanks guys

Fratyr

Guys, what |= operator means? :)

Jimmy

x |= b is x = x | b

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

OLD MAN BASTION!

I want that guy to narrate my life.

Fratyr

Thanks

Gajoo

@Jimmy there is no such an operator (at least in C++)

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

6:30 PM

"Kid rages for a while..."

Jimmy

@Gajoo in C# there is

Noctrine

And in Java

Fratyr

|= <- from C++ :)

Noctrine

Operator (computer programming)

Programming languages typically support a set of operators: operations which differ in the calling of syntax and/or the argument passing mode from the language's functions. Common examples that differ by syntax are mathematical arithmetic operations, e.g. ">" for "greater than", with names often outside the language's set of identifiers for functions, and called with a syntax different from the language's syntax for calling functions. Common examples that differ by argument passing mode are boolean operations, e.g. a short-circuiting conjunction that only evaluates later arguments if ear...

Jimmy

hmmm according to this table it does exist in C++

Noctrine

6:31 PM

Stupid auto-thingie. That links to a chart that shows different operators and what they do in different languages.

Fratyr

@Jimmy 15

Gajoo

@Jimmy maybe I've mistaken it with &&=

Jimmy

yes, we have bitwise assignment operators, not boolean

ToddersLegrande

Ooo. I know I said I didn't want to carry around a USB stick but the premium account does have multifactor authentication with a "YubiKey" - this is interesting

Or it seems you can turn any USB drive into a form of multifactor authentication

John McDonald

Do they have an android app instead?

ToddersLegrande

6:41 PM

Looks like (on premium) they have an app for all the mobile operating systems

$1 a month for premium

John McDonald

ic

ToddersLegrande

If they could have some fancy desktop authentication mechanism that plugged passwords into games as well this would be perfect

But at least I can log in and view passwords for that

John McDonald

Right now, my weak point is my phone. If I lose my phone, and someone breaks the lock on the phone, they have access to my Google authenticator, and from there have access to Gmail and therefore: my life

I suppose if I ever lose my phone, I should immediately fix that in Google

ToddersLegrande

My phone isn't secure :(

John McDonald

Well... even then, they'd still need to know my password

ToddersLegrande

6:48 PM

They'd have my email and could just read / recover passwords from the phone

John McDonald

:/ yeah

hmm... if I change my Gmail password, I'd need to type it in on my phone, right?

That would be my first step

Jimmy

why is the authenticator not one of two factors?

isn't that the point of an authenticator? (I've never used one)

John McDonald

Well, you have certain devices, like my phone and home PC that are authorized and won't bug you for an auth code very often

Blizzard wants you to enter in the auth code every week (at most)

Google is more like a month

UNLESS It's a new device

ToddersLegrande

Mine is set to prompt me every time for Blizzard. It's not much of a bother to me

John McDonald

If you're on a new device, Blizzard and Google will always ask you for the auth code

yeah, I've set up Blizzard to ask once a week. I have like 2 games and $0 in my Blizzard wallet

With Google, you can print off one-time-use codes that you can use in the case of an emergency, or for traveling

And if you have a google account that you care about, I'd highly recommend setting up 2-factor authentication: codinghorror.com/blog/2012/04/make-your-email-hacker-proof.html

Bogdan Marginean

7:00 PM

@Blizzard - does anyone happen to have a downloadable Diablo 2 from battle.net? I'm curious if it works under Win 7

John McDonald

You don't need a smart phone either. The default behaviour is to send you texts

Bogdan Marginean

Due to suspicious activity, this account has been locked. A message has been sent to this account’s email address containing details on how to resolve this issue. Visit eu.battle.net/account/locked.html for more information.

so it was not spam after all

John McDonald

I love this part: "But I Don't Use Gmail: Either nag your email provider to provide two-factor authentication, or switch over"

<3 Coding Horror

ToddersLegrande

@BogdanMarginean GENERALLY if you can look at the URL and determine its really battle.net its likely not spam.

John McDonald

:/ ummm no

Don't click on links in emails

Stack Exchange

7:07 PM

0

Q: Requesting tag synonyms

Note: I could not already find a question on Meta answering this. If there is one, then please provide a link. I've been looking through the tags recently, and have seen a few that I think deserve to be synonyms. Of course, I don't have enough rep to suggest synonyms myself, but some tags (e.g. ...

discussion

Bogdan Marginean

@ToddersLegrande I only log in to battle.net once per year lol, so I dismiss any email as spam. Apparently I did not register using my real name. I can't recover my account. Damn.

Didn't lose much, I've got those Diablos in retail packaging too but

You have made too many unsuccessful attempts. In order to continue the password reset process, please contact Customer Support.

sounds like my best bet

should've done this from the start

John McDonald

Yup

ToddersLegrande

@JohnMcDonald I guess to be clear, I hover over the link or copy the address, and see what it actually resolves to. I've never found one I actually wanted to click because they were all spam (MSN does for sure and I think gmail might too - mark Blizzard as verified anyway). I wouldn't ever click anything without determining the destination long before

John McDonald

:/ yeah. I did that once with a Facebook link once

Not doing that again

ToddersLegrande

Haha. I recently had a conversation with my parents that anything they see on Facebook that looks like a good thing to click on, they should think instead that it reads like "Click me if you want to download a virus!"

John McDonald

7:14 PM

I'll get some more info for us

ToddersLegrande

On?

John McDonald

On the virus email I got

ToddersLegrande

Ah

What I find interesting these days is that I am receiving spam email that appears to be from friends or relatives that are actually sent from obviously not their email addresses

Jimmy

I've gotten that too :( I wonder if it's related to those Facebook Like-phishing things

like, something has to be collecting names of actual friends but not actually have access to email or anything

Also, you can find a lot of real names on Twitter and figure out who their friends are that way

ToddersLegrande

@Jimmy I'm guessings its exactly that as some people I'm not even friends with. I'm sure someone clicks a link / allows an app and it looks up friends and friends of friends until someone was smart enough to secure their account down

@JohnMcDonald I propose are scenario to you that maybe you have the solution to since you use this.

You set up Gmail to use the two factor authentication

Oh wait

Printable backup codes

nevermind

:P

John McDonald

7:20 PM

yes, Print those

ToddersLegrande

Seems pretty good to me as long as you change your gmail account settings/password before the person gets a chance to get anything useful

John McDonald

yeah, if you can change your password before they can get sensitive data, you're golden. Hmm

Bogdan Marginean

Floyd warshell and Dijkstra's algorithm

Floyd warshell

just another

in the wall

John McDonald

But they'll have hours of access before you can do that, probably

@BogdanMarginean what?

Bogdan Marginean

someone posted on a website that he needed a C++ implementation of floyd warshell's algorithm

totally different from floyd-warshall

John McDonald

7:25 PM

ah, ic

Bogdan Marginean

it's hard to make the same mistake with roy-floyd

but I can still make a shitty pink floyd joke haha

Jimmy

Bogdan Marginean

it's been half a year since I managed to find something to do on oDesk

i don't get some people's logic

you ask for a 5-star programmer but you're only willing to pay him/her an incredibly small amount

it's even funnier when it sounds like

Noctrine

That's pretty solid (people) logic though, in a way, They want the very best, for the very least.

Bogdan Marginean

"need console hangman game, stellar programmers only please"

max bid: $5

Jimmy

7:31 PM

The reason is that if you ask for a decent programmer, all the terrible ones apply

Bogdan Marginean

@Noctrine well yeah from the employer's point of view it makes sense :P from mine it does not

Jimmy

even when you ask for a 5-star programmer, you still mostly get trash

at least, from the HR/employer's point of view

Noctrine

Maybe they should start using the programmer competency matrix?

Of course, even then, mostly trash will still apply.

Bogdan Marginean

or just try to pay more so their job postings seem attractive to programmers who don't spend 10 hours of coding for $10

it can't be that hard to weed out the bad ones during interviews

Jimmy

yeah, but i'd rather not waste my time interviewing people I don't have to

Noctrine

7:34 PM

That is also part of the problem, with sites like oDesk. There are people who will accept (and in some cases complete) ridiculously low-ball offers.

Jimmy

yeah, you're competing with the third world here

Bogdan Marginean

@Jimmy makes sense, but on programming jobs it's rarely the case of more than 10-15 applications.

don't have many other options, especially when it comes to gamedev

there's one job in 50 that does look good though, so maybe I'll get something soon enough

the mobile app dev section is even worse, apparently everyone needs android + ios + wp compatibility out of the box, and by the same programmer

used to be better a year ago, from an android dev's point of view

Noctrine

At least they don't want Blackberry also

Bogdan Marginean

I can do WP too, but iOS is so out of my reach

@Noctrine lol true

Gajoo

@BogdanMarginean developing for WP is really good

though you just need a W8 to develop for WP8

Noctrine

7:40 PM

Not to bad compared to really

Bogdan Marginean

@Gajoo Yep, was very nice the first time I did it (WP 7). Felt right at home: Visual Studio, C#, .NET. The XAML thing took me some time to get used to (I never WPFed either).

I have yet to do something serious for W8

Gajoo

you can just do the same things you did for WP7, as far as I know it's backward compatible

Bogdan Marginean

I personally find WP to be the friendliest platform for developers

it's really easy to develop for

Android comes second, but I bet it would be overtaken by iOS. problem is objective-c confuses the hell out of me.

Gajoo

in my opinion android is the last. not only between mobile devices but in general :P

Bogdan Marginean

the APIs are okay-ish, the real problem with android is the fact that it's so spread out on tons of devices

Gajoo

7:45 PM

iOS is not that bad, considering you can use MonoDevelop and C++

Bogdan Marginean

sometimes you just want to smash the keyboard and then write over your app "THIS ONLY WORKS WITH GALAXY S3. THANK YOU. BYE"

does the monodevelop support not cost extra? last time I checked it was a huge price

it would be more worth it to completely switch to apple with that money lol

apple also has that annoying requirement of $100 per year to even PACKAGE your app for distribution

or to test on a real device

you have your iThing near you and it's impossible to test your app on it unless you apply for their programme

I bought your damn iThing, is it not enough?!

/rant

made me hungry though

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

I wonder.

Should I mark the header of a page that only returns json with a doctype to indicate it?

You know, like how you can mark content text, html, xml, etc.?

Gajoo

@BogdanMarginean doesn't same rule apply for WP too?

Bogdan Marginean

@Gajoo only up to a certain extent. this was 2 or 3 years ago, but I remember being able to build my WP app for release and give it to my employer

Kikaimaru

how do you think diablo or games like that matches attack request packet and recieved damage packet to look like it happend as cause?

John McDonald

7:56 PM

@William'MindWorX'Mariager I've set my header content type (not <!doctype>) to: "application/json"

Jimmy

a lot of games probably send both at once

depends on whether damage resolution is asynchronous

John McDonald

JSON

JSON ( , ), or JavaScript Object Notation, is a text-based open standard designed for human-readable data interchange. It is derived from the JavaScript scripting language for representing simple data structures and associative arrays, called objects. Despite its relationship to JavaScript, it is language-independent, with parsers available for many languages. The JSON format was originally specified by Douglas Crockford, and is described in RFC 4627. The official Internet media type for JSON is application/json. The JSON filename extension is .json. The JSON format is often used for s...

"The official MIME type for JSON text is "application/json" "

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Neat

Thanks.

John McDonald

You can also download a plugin for your browser that will handle json files, which is nice for debugging

Owch, looks like a pain to do this for IE though: stackoverflow.com/a/2492211/536974

heh

Not designed for developers

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Man I wish VS would reuse tabs when I hit debug. :P

John McDonald

8:32 PM

:D I'm working on top of an Ingress portal now!

Gajoo

@William'MindWorX'Mariager what tabs?

you mean like IE tabs/

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

@Gajoo Tabs in firefox.

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

8:50 PM

God how I've missed LINQ to SQL.

Sweet sweet LINQ to SQL.

ToddersLegrande

@William'MindWorX'Mariager MVC is more amazing. :P

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

But LINQ to SQL is at least the next best thing. :P

No dealing with anything. Just connect and treat the database as any other collection.

var db = new DataClassesDataContext(ConfigurationManager.ConnectionStrings["database"].ConnectionString);
db.Users.InsertOnSubmit(new User() { Username = username, Salt = salt, Password = hash });
db.SubmitChanges();

ToddersLegrande

Upgrade yourself to the Entity Framework

It's like Linq to SQL but better

William 'MindWorX' Mariager

Looks pretty identical

What are the differences?

Seems like the Entity Framework is something more enterprise aimed.

Bogdan Marginean

9:14 PM

new email: Battle.net Account Locked - Action Required

Greetings,

Due to an unusual change...

y u no use my name

so I get to know what I should have used to recover my pass

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