Game Development

Yeah, that's much easier to read now

We are white again

Sweet

1:12 AM

do enumerators not have an ordinal ability in c#

sorry, new to the lingo

Oh, you want to use an enum as an idex. You just cast it

int i = (int)MyEnum.SomeEnum;
or
MyEnum e = (MyEnum)5;

im trying to index my sheet atm

thats easy, thanks

1:26 AM

it works!

it looks so good!

:) nice

i think i have too many steps per move though

it kind of looks funky

Moshe

Hi.

Dave

2:27 AM

hey

Moshe

2:54 PM

Poke

3:49 PM

If you've got something to say, it's usually best to just come out and say it.

Having said that, I'm out

4:09 PM

but I'm in

4:35 PM

hi guys

i just wached this tutorial to import .obj models

►

i didnt used the source code

the model imports

but my model seems to render in separate triangles rather than one smooth shape

why is that?

maybe that's because you are not importing normal vectors

that's just a guess but without a normal vector one can easily see the triangles.

hmm

anyway

this is my shape :D

GL11.glBegin(GL11.GL_TRIANGLES);
for (Face face : m.faces) {
Vector3f n1 = m.normals.get((int) face.normal.x - 1);
GL11.glNormal3f(n1.x + mapPosX, n1.y + mapPosY, n1.z + mapPosZ);
Vector3f v1 = m.vertices.get((int) face.vertex.x - 1);
GL11.glVertex3f(v1.x + mapPosX, v1.y + mapPosY, v1.z + mapPosZ);
Vector3f n2 = m.normals.get((int) face.normal.y - 1);
GL11.glNormal3f(n2.x + mapPosX, n2.y + mapPosY, n2.z + mapPosZ);
Vector3f v2 = m.vertices.get((int) face.vertex.y - 1);
GL11.glVertex3f(v2.x + mapPosX, v2.y + mapPosY, v2.z + mapPosZ);

I don't know :D

I've never been a low-level programmer!

oh

that was just a hunch based on what I saw in 3Dmax mostly!

@tylerrrr07 did you get my game?

5:06 PM

Hey ppl, I'm back.

@Liukas lol, wasn't you supposed to try 2D first? o.O

also why don't you use gameenignes to get started with 3D?

+1

@GustavoGtoknu you know there is an star button to express +1 in chat?

Starring is more for "Everybody needs to see this"

2

+1 is rather like "I agree/Me too"

yup, i use +1 to avoid typing the same, because you express the same opinion as mine.

you win a star for saying why we should star, nice!

5:17 PM

that's quite a different reason behind staring that what I've expected

@GustavoGtoknu i played with 2D basics and now starting 3D

LOL

Recursion

@Liukas you play too fast young one :)

well 2D stuff is very simple

if I had a say I would greatly suggest using a gameengine for either 2D or 3D before going lowlevel. you first need to learn what should be done.

5:19 PM

seriously? did you make any full game yet?

these people that put one quad on the screen and say YO 2D IS EASY

playing with 2D stuff is simple, but it takes lot's of effort even to produce a 2D game

@GustavoGtoknu +1

whitequark.org/blog/2012/05/06/…

@GustavoGtoknu well i made a simple rpg game without no normal gameplay. I think i already said that

"Consider this switch statement (taken from abcdump.as utility):
...
Not only it generates a piece of modern art in an IR dump, but also has a statement so beautifully useless it should be preserved for future generations:
`(ternary (false) (integer 15) (integer 15))`

What's wrong with formatting?

@GustavoGtoknu I really liked that game, but there are many 2D rpg's out there

5:24 PM

I give up

@Liukas share it

deleted...

i always delete unfinished projects

@Liukas then i can't guaranty you are ready for 3D.

well i can tell you something about it

I mean there are lot's of features you need to consider/implement just at the last moment you think the game is ready for shipping.

5:26 PM

@Liukas Why?

those are exactly the skill you need to master to develop games.

hmm

i don't actualy know

Old projects help you see how you improved over time

You can also revisit them and refactor them for greater good.

yeah, but i hate unfinished stuff

I like unfinished stuff I did well because I can reuse the code

5:27 PM

Then finish it

Instead of putting it under the rug

maybe you're right :)

@tylerrrr07 +1

5:42 PM

lol, kinda immature deleting unfinished projects?

I have folders of projects since i'm 9.

also it's a lot of fun when you see what kinds of project you started/finished when you were a kid!

I have a unfinished chess in XNA of when i were 12 or 13 lol, I've revised the code these days, and LOL, lot's of things to improve. Someday I might finish it.

@GustavoGtoknu how old are you?

15, going to 16 in 18 days :)

why is everyone so young here?

5:54 PM

@Liukas Say whaaat!?

I mean I feel like a grand dad here with only 20 years old.

@JohnMcDonald you should feel like greate grand dad?

You mean Great grand dad, but yeah

corrected

we're the future hah :D

@JohnMcDonald Tell us stories from when you were a kid :D

5:57 PM

there are too many mistake I make without even noticing. and the problem is they are considered mistakes in my Persian too. what's wrong with me?

You are thinking in Persian when writing English and vice-versa?

@tylerrrr07 it's the second time I write the whole manual for Battery and it's getting deleted

Well stop that :P

but thanks to history I was able to revive it this time

this time it had a different reason, my session timed out while I was writing :D

anyway did you put my game anywhere so others can download it?

@Gajet Write locally, then paste.

Or copy to a local notepad after writing every few paragraphs

5:59 PM

yeah I know, I just don't feel like doing so

You'll also have a backup in case the server explodes.

there has to be at least one usage for chrome history.

anyway while I'm waiting for @tylerrrr07 to upload the game, you can read the my posts so far

battery.intellisenseless.com

and learn how you will be playing the game

also I'll be glad if anyone is interested in developing an AI for this game.

not all people have friends to play with them!

But, doesn't your CMS have auto-save?

'When I was at highschool one of my friends originally developed this game, using "Turbo C". '

Turbo C... that was a long time ago

btw gajet, the F2, 2, 1, 3 controls are not very nice on my keyb

it would be more something like: f2 up, 3 down, 2 left, 4 right

I can make them to work with "2,w,q,e" but that might cause a little bit problem in some keyboards

6:05 PM

I'd had to play with two hands for it being valid >.> F1 is on top of 2, f2 is on top of 3

let me remap the keys :D

this is my keyb

other keymaps are nice, just this one is weirdo

Fancy Keyboards are not supported :P

):

@Damir +1

@GustavoGtoknu I guess you have to play that game in highschool, otherwise how can you find enough people to play with

6:09 PM

i use my hands and feets, no problem

but If you see, the design of my keyb is pretty common lol

I guess having 2 button under f2 is a little bit more common

at least, more than half of my keyboards were like this

just one or two that were "notebook like" keyboards

but maybe that's just me and every keyboard around me!

and btw, the F keys area usually distant from the n# keys

this one you have to agree!

Hmm

3 is below F2 on my keyboard.

stephelton

6:11 PM

that's my kb

@GustavoGtoknu

+dvorak layout :)

3 is below your keyboard too! hah!

@GustavoGtoknu I should agree with that one

@stephelton I swapped keys on my laptop to Dvorak.

Never learned it :D

now I'm thinking maybe I've seen too many laptops for my own good!

stephelton

@Damir i tried that only to find that the notched keys were different... so one of my laptops has half dvorak, half qwerty layout =P

6:12 PM

But I did learn to blind-type on QWERTY

I should use portuguese QWERTY for accentuations of my language. But I almost NEVER write in portuguese, just when talking to family, so it's usually USA qwerty (:

@stephelton I feel strange in keyboards without numpad. dont know why.

@GustavoGtoknu I just remember UTF codes for those few characters.

stephelton

@GustavoGtoknu i miss it sometimes, but i like having the extra space on my keyboard tray for mouse

I made some fancy stuff with windows keyboard layouts, so when I press ALT+SHIFT, the accentuations get working, but with the USA layout

so if I type ' and A, I get one Á :D

I can also write on QWERTY blindly, but my fingers make some weird moves while typing

6:15 PM

If i look on the keyboard i type slower, dont have any idea of why.

That's why I love my keyboard: bimg1.mlstatic.com/s_MLB_v_F_f_203424776_1060.jpg

@tylerrrr07 do you think there is tool to help me upload?

6:31 PM

You're using FTP?

it seems the connection resets every now and then

not yet

Oh, well... that would be my suggestion then

how fast is your internet/

?

for now I'm trying to attach 3MB to a gmail

it seems upload goes not higher than 5K :(

that... has to suck

6:33 PM

ah. I have no tips for uploading :(

yeah, most ISPs will cap the uploading to something really low compared with your down

I'm limited to like 0.5Mbits up, :(

@Gajet - On the site dashboard expand settings (click the arrow) -> Media -> Add zip to the list of allowed file extensions

that's a little lower than my download limit

I think that might help uploading your game

Then when you upload make sure you uncheck the "extract zip" option

tried that one,

I mean last night.

6:35 PM

@JohnMcDonald I recently got a boost to 1Mbps

I was able to upload no problem :/

To my site

Then I got disconnected for not paying on time :D

I don't have access to yours anymore :P

why?

@Damir I recently got pushed down from 1Mbit to 0.5 :(

6:36 PM

Ouch

I though you had free access to every folder in your server

I never created myself a service account for your site and if I had to guess you changed your password

:/ yeah. Shaw is cheap

I do on the folders yeah

via ftp

not your site though

So I can't troubleshoot your uploads

I changed the password, that's correct

but you should still be able to put the archive directly into site media folder using ftp

6:38 PM

is the folder you created called version archive?

yep

k

but w8

Also can you create me an admin account on your site? :P

I've made a change as gustavo asked

and I'm sending you a new file

6:40 PM

Just do tylerrrrr07 with temporary123 as the password and let me know

I'll hop in and change it right away

done,

I'll make you administrator as soon as you changed your password :D

security issues!

hmm

sure you got the right number of R's etc?

any capital letters I should know about?

oh i see

nope nevermind

I noticed I had accidentally put 5 r's in my message up above but that still didn't work

copied and pasted everything

Login was unsuccessful. Please correct the errors and try again.
The username or e-mail or password provided is incorrect.

and thats from copy / paste

maybe I used the same word for both username and password

6:44 PM

:(

I got nothing here

did you log in or should I recreate your account?

can't log in

with 4 r yeah?

4 r preferably :)

lowercase T

t

"tylerrrr07" "temporary123"

6:47 PM

im in

and I've sent you another rar archive via mail

but I can change my password because I can't see the dashboard :P

oh wait

I click my name and it takes me

refresh

Ok its changed and I'm all set

I made a settings change can you try now?

to upload?

6:49 PM

yeah

zip wasn't in your allowed media list

where was that option?

14 mins ago, by tylerrrr07

@Gajet - On the site dashboard expand settings (click the arrow) -> Media -> Add zip to the list of allowed file extensions

now I've seen that little bastard

@tylerrrr07 How do you quote a chat message?

lol

6:51 PM

I've also added rar to that list

@Damir I hover over a message, click the drop down arrow that appears, click permalink, and steal that Url

There might be an easier way but thats what I do

The windows world will appreciate it if you use zips just so you know :P

is there really a decent computer addict who can't open a rar archive?

Gamers aren't necessarily computer addicts

But I guess if your target audience is computer addict then whatever :P

and are you sure you can find a gamer who can't handle a rar archive?

My younger brother

6:53 PM

anyway would you please upload this time instead of me?

Just this once

uploading is just a pain ... for me

Yeah but you have to keep in mind this isn't my website :P

Or my game

yeah I know, I just come to you as my technical support!

@Gajet Are you using a web UI to upload?

6:55 PM

battery.intellisenseless.com/Media/Default/Version Archive/Bokhor Bokhor.rar

He is and I just did too

that's what making it a little hard

anyone ever used LWJGL?

@Gajet I didn't follow all the conversation there, but I think you'll have an easier time with an FTP client like FileZilla

Perhaps - but lets give this a test run for a while now that the site is actually configured to allow the file type he was uploading...