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Hannah Vernon
Hannah Vernon
2:55 AM
@Vérace nice!
 
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Hannah Vernon
Hannah Vernon
5:28 AM
Wordle 1,123 4/6*

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Zikato
Zikato
7:39 AM
@Criggie one man's trash is another man's treasure
 
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Vérace
Vérace
9:59 AM
@HannahVernon Not too shabby either!
 
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Paul White
Paul White
11:09 AM
@ErikDarling It's bound to be right eventually
Zikato
Zikato
11:24 AM
@ErikDarling Trying to tell a bit of a story
Erik Darling
Erik Darling
12:07 PM
Left quite a trail anyway
 
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Paul White
Paul White
2:07 PM
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Erik is such a Star Trek nerd
Zikato
Zikato
Is no one using Service Broker? Google has no hits for "CSbRollbackHandlerTask"
Erik Darling
Erik Darling
2:45 PM
@PaulWhite sometimes yes.
Google and Microsoft now each consume more power than some fairly big countries
Paul White
Paul White
3:10 PM
@ErikDarling I was surprised. I thought you detested Star Trek|Wars
Forrest
Forrest
3:26 PM
Funny that you would be phased by Star Trek
Vérace
Vérace
3:52 PM
@ErikDarling Bit of a kick in the dilithium crystals? Ouch...
Erik Darling
Erik Darling
4:27 PM
@PaulWhite I will always love Trek. Will never forgive Wars.
@Vérace wonder why no one has invented those yet.
Vérace
Vérace
@ErikDarling Well, I have two of them! :-)
Erik Darling
Erik Darling
5:16 PM
Yeah how many parsecs can you do
Vérace
Vérace
@ErikDarling Sometimes they help me to get up to Warp 9 in the bedroom!
Zikato
Zikato
No love for Star Gate in this channel?
Or Farscape
Paul White
Paul White
5:44 PM
Star Gate was gr8
Peter Vandivier
Peter Vandivier
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bertieb
bertieb
6:56 PM
@Zikato Love 'em both
Hey folks, I was in here a while ago asking a couple things (ABBA functional dependencies!); I don't have an account on the main site so I can't flag but I wanted to raise awareness of a minor thing
There's a network user that likes to ask questions on a particular site when it is 'site of the day'; I surmise DBA is since they've asked a (not particularly well-received) question -- the questions are usually trivial, banal or hugely broad
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when the question(s) is/are inevitably closed and/or deleted the user posts on a site's meta with a "reinstatement request", usually asking 'what question on (topic) can I ask instead'
(inter alia, they also bump their posts with whitespace)
For more context- they've been banned from Wikipedia for their problematic edits and refusal to take heed for years
How y'all handle it is your business of course, but just wanted to let you know some of the background :)
(I'll hang around in for a bit chat in case there's any follow up questions)
mustaccio
mustaccio
7:23 PM
we deal with banal or trivial questions with banal, trivial downvotes
on DBA.SE, we hate fun
bertieb
bertieb
8:10 PM
hehe
I mean, that directly contradicts the Certificate of Fun® I was issued last time I was here
but I'll take your word for it
 
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Criggie
Criggie
9:29 PM
Well - our 4-yerar old Mac laptops all get crunched because IT can't find a solution to wipe them securely.
The PCs get wiped with "wipedrive" which is acceptable, but not the macs.
so work's trash is landfill despite being eminently reusable.
Vérace
Vérace
9:44 PM
@Criggie Why not Dban? It's a great tool!
Criggie
Criggie
"not approved"
also, dban doesn't deal with reallocated blocks securely.
for an ssd, there could be 4k or 16 k or 128k blocks of "reallocated sectors" which could still hold their old data which might be sensitgive
dban is better for spinning disks, its not ideal for an SSD
so yeah there is some justification for the company decvision, but Apple have a solution for secure wipe of any host with a T2 chip or any apple silicon. Company doesn't accept that though.
Vérace
Vérace
Ooops - make that nwipe.
Criggie
Criggie
Yah - "wipedrive" is a commercial wrapper around nwipe. It also handles all the logging and corporate "complaince" requiremnents, at a cost.
Paul White
Paul White
So only the SSDs are "crunched", right? Not the whole machine...?
Criggie
Criggie
10:04 PM
The whole machine
Apple has storage on board, so not removable
Could just destroy the main board leaving the case/screen/battery but that's a lot of work to extract.
onboard soldered SSD storage on the motherboard, or on the chip, is not easily changed.
Vérace
Vérace
@Criggie why I never bought a Mac! I like Acer Nitro 5 PCs - 3 disks!
Criggie
Criggie
10:22 PM
I never bought a mac either, but I now have a couple of minis from2014. They had removable disks so could be safely not-destroyed.
Paul White
Paul White
@bertieb Thanks
Criggie
Criggie
I have some brand preferences, and Acer is one that I will never spend money on again. They had some real design stinkers which burned me in the past
Paul White
Paul White
@Criggie I see. Crikey what a waste
Criggie
Criggie
Like, having a mouse button directly soldered to the mainboard of a laptop, so every button click flexed the board. That laptop died quickly.
good thing, a 2014 mac mini makes a fine linux box :)
Vérace
Vérace
@Criggie apart from mouse? Always use USB on my standing desk!
Criggie
Criggie
10:27 PM
Oh yeah - wireless mice and keyboards can just FOAD.
I'm slightly more accepting of wireless headphones, but the number of times people at work have issues makes me stay with my $20 wired logitechs from 10+ years ago.
Wireless is good enough for music, but not meetings/calls.
Sean Gallardy
Sean Gallardy
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It's a start, I guess
Vérace
Vérace
11:11 PM
@Criggie Bluetooth is fine, no?
Wordle 1,124 3/6*

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I am on fire!
As are Shamrock Rovers (Dublin team) 2-1 Vikingur (Iceland). Meet Sparta Prague in the next rounnd - a whole different kettle of fish I think - eh @Zikato?
Criggie
Criggie
@Vérace its... getting better ?
Vérace
Vérace
@Criggie OK - problem with bluetooth? Works dandy on my JBL speakers and with headsets!
Criggie
Criggie
yeah its not too bad, but that crunch time of meetings, there's frequently someone with a prob.
Vérace
Vérace
11:35 PM
@criggie see you're a biker! Used to do a lot of road work myself. Now got a German stationary - like being on the deck of an aircraft carrier, it's that solid!

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