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12:18 AM
hey there @Green
 
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CenturyHow to not hurt yourself with very sharp spikes on tail creature-design anatomy The creature I'm designing has a tail with spikes on the end of it. The material of the spikes should be as strong as diamond, and very sharp (the edge as well as the sides). The tail has several uses where these sp...

 
12:57 AM
hey again @Green
 
 
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2:36 AM
@Shalvenay hey!
 
how're things going?
hey there @sphennings
 
3:11 AM
@sphennings -- you about?
 
3:25 AM
hey there @JourneymanGeek
hey as well @Secret
 
 
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10:46 AM
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Q: Tag questions that want science to pick up the pieces

SpencerA lot of people seem to be asking questions about what would happen if the laws of science suddenly reasserted themselves after some absurd thing happens. Three recent questions I found right off the bat are: A Box That Scrambles Particles If rain magically started falling over the Sahara, wha...

 
 
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4:13 PM
hey there @Green
 
4:28 PM
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Shard martinWhy would zombies not feast on each other? Zombies always go after the living. This is despite thereally being a ready source of food among their fellow "colleagues". What would be a reason for this? Since dead flesh is just as delicious and nutritional as living flesh, what stops zombies from a...

 
5:00 PM
hey there @Pleiades
hey as well @Mithrandir24601
 
Myello
 
how're things going?
 
@Shalvenay ni hao! Just watching open heart surgery on the BBC (I'm actually not joking)
 
Guud. I was finishing something else first, but then I was planning on bouncing some ideas around in here since I'm having a hard time finding a solution on my own and these are too opinion-based for the main site
@Mithrandir24601 Agh wow @_@ I used to have such a high tolerance for stuff like that, and now I can't even look at blood that isn't my own without getting all jello-y
 
@Pleiades fire away :)
 
5:03 PM
(to be fair, the only 'open' heart bit of it is where they cut the heart, put a tube in it and cool the blood in order to allow them to stop the heart, so they can then drain the blood to cut open the major artery...)
 
(that's still enough to freak me out lol)
 
@Mithrandir24601 alright here. wondering if Euron Greyjoy escaped Westeros and now is the captain of some boat IRL, where he somehow managed to cause Rocket Lab to manual-hold at T-0:58 and then have to scrub the launch :/
 
watching the heart beat (as in, not numbers on screen, but the physical contractions) slow is just... awe
 
Okay so anyway, I'll start with the easy one: I'm trying to find ways to justify a steampunk aesthetic within a desert setting, and honestly I think my main concern here is the heat and sand interacting with the moving parts in ways we in the modern world don't know how to handle, but at the same time, I don't want to just throw in steampunk and have it not make sense to the people who are actually going to care.
 
serious kudos to the BBC for actually making a documentary on such high-risk surgery and recording in the operating theatre
 
5:09 PM
@Pleiades Your main issue is sand. I think machines could be designed to cope with the heat fairly easily.
 
@Shalvenay That's now quite easy to do - I left Westeros a couple of weeks ago for England
 
lulz!
@Bellerophon yeah, seconding that. sand gets into everything, especially the finer it gets
OTOH: there are other kinds of deserts
the American Southwest has some pretty hardcore desert terrain in it, and basically none of it is sand-desert
 
@Bellerophon That's what I thought. My setting is more Sonoran Desert-like than Sahara (which everyone seems to assume for some reason...), but there's still sand that can get into sensitive moving parts and damage stuff
 
I wonder if a salt-desert type setting would work? lots of old dry lakebeds and stuff mixed with rocky outcrops
 
@Shalvenay Well I'm actually doing more an American-Southwest type desert anyway sooo xD
I keep forgetting salt-deserts are a thing though. For whatever reason, I don't think of them as deserts and I have no idea why
 
5:13 PM
BBC update: they've finished repairing the hole in the heart (that they put there) and have 4(?) minutes to STF (stitch like ****) the main artery and get the blood back in before the major organs start getting effected by the lack of blood
ahh, no - it took them 14 minutes, so they had loads of time :)
the heart's beating!! :O
:D
 
Whoa :O
 
it was absolutely incredible. I'm in awe
 
@Mithrandir24601 -- I wonder how Euron would react to being told that him and his boat were in the way? :P
 
@Shalvenay not very pleasantly :P Probably try and attack something or other
 
@Mithrandir24601 yeah, that sounds like a sure fire recipe to get the coast guard/navy called in on him under the circumstances
"Uh, this bloke on a boat over here shot at us when we told him he was in the range hazard zone..."
 
5:38 PM
So wait, can I bug you guys with my other question?
 
@Pleiades Sure.
 
Alright. So this is an issue that popped up when trying to rework an older setting to make more sense. In this world, magic is innate and everyone has it, but it's partially tied to your emotions, which means younger children, who are more likely to throw tantrums and the like, can be more dangerous to be around until they start to gain control over their magic.
So, for whatever reason, the me of like 5 years ago thought that putting all the kids into basically giant prisons until they hit a certain age was a good idea, and barring the ridiculousness of that idea, it created a setting where nobody really knew their parents and there weren't any kids around, which created a lot of opportunities to explore some interesting storylines, ideas, and themes.
I don't want to keep the "evil magic school" thing anymore, but I do still want to maintain a society where people don't know their parents and there aren't small children running around. Only thing is, I have no idea how to keep this all coherent. f^-^')
Any thoughts?
 
Education is your best bet.
 
 
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7:00 PM
hey there @Green
 
 
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8:23 PM
@Shalvenay hey! I'm making pastrami today!
Or starting it anyway.
@Pleiades If the kids are really dangerous till their cerebral capacity builds then I would expect that parents would have co-evolved a way to handle it. If there isn't some way to handle it then this version of humans wouldn't have made it very far.
 
hey there @sphennings
@Green nice
 
@Shalvenay Hey.
@Green Pastrami sounds delicious. Are you smoking it?
 
@sphennings how're things going?
 
Up in upstate NH visiting my partner. Just got back from the local Women's march.
@Shalvenay How are things with you?
 
@Pleiades How about magical stasis while the kids grow similar to a larval stage for insects? Perhaps eggs are laid in pods then after a few years they hatch.
@sphennings No, I found a recipe for baking though I have a smoker available. Maybe I'll do that next time I make it. Today is just for starting the brining process.
 
8:31 PM
@sphennings alright here. when do you think would be a good time to ping you re: D&D char creation?
 
@Green I'm a big fan of cured meats. One of the best parts of living in Alaska was that I had a hookup for moose pastrami.
 
@Pleiades All the kids will know each other because the eggs can communicate within the pod. However, because of the large separation between the laid eggs and hatching, no kid will know their parents. Family resemblance may show through but there may be ways to mitigate that too.
 
@Shalvenay Ping me Monday evening EST.
 
@sphennings sure thing :)
 
@sphennings Have you ever been to Moodies in Waltham?
 
8:32 PM
@sphennings that sounds awesome
 
@Green No... What is it?
 
@sphennings Moodies is a charcuterie that makes their own and supplies charcuterie to lots of local restaurants. The meat is amaze-balls.
 
Wait. I've had their barbecue when they were vending at a event in Everett.
I'll need to check it out.
 
@sphennings They are a deli during the day and a restaurant at night.
 
@Shalvenay Alaska was a great place to be if you liked eating dead things. I got to try musk ox which was surprisingly good.
 
8:37 PM
@sphennings yeah, I'm sure it is (I'm a bit of a carnivore myself)
 
@sphennings What was the oil like? Was it really greasy?
 
@Shalvenay I'm a strict omnivore myself.
@Green Seal oil was extremely fishy. I left before I got a chance to try any whale.
 
Well, I know how to end the series now.
Humans are dead after the Visitors execute a contingency plan to wipe us out after a bunch of friendly Visitors are spotted entering our Solar System, one final battle happens between the friendly and hostile Visitors, and I will decide on who wins later (which will determine whether Earth gets colonised or turned into a nature preserve), and 40,000 years later in the Gliese 445 star system, an Oort Cloud colony by a descendant of the Visitors picks up the Voyager 1 probe for study.
Then......this message is heard as the series ends:
As the Secretary General of the United Nations, an organizations of the 147 member states who represent almost all of the human inhabitants of the planet earth. I send greetings on behalf of the people of our planet.
We step out of our solar system into the universe seeking only peace and friendship, to teach if we are called upon, to be taught if we are fortunate. We know full well that our planet and all its inhabitants are but a small part of the immense universe that surrounds us and it is with humility and hope that we take this step.
- UN Secretary General Kurt Waldheim, Voyager Golden Records, 1977.
And thus the series ends with one of the Golden Records being heard as our final legacy to the stars.
 
8:52 PM
@sphennings I was asking about the Musk Ox flavor.
I've also had whale in Iceland I'd definitely have that again.
 
@Green Think something between a well marbled steak and goat.
 
@sphennings I don't recall what goat tastes like. Horse is pretty good though.
 
I've never had horse. Where did you try it?
 
@sphennings Iceland. I had meat from practically every category while I was there. Fish, shark, whale, puffin, chicken, beef, horse (maybe goat, I don't remember).
The shark you have just once. I didn't throw up but the ammonia smell is so strong it made me gag.
 
I'm more than a little bit jealous.
 
9:06 PM
@sphennings That's the shark ^^. It doesn't look like much till you try to put it in your mouth. Oddly, after you make it past the first big ammonia hit, it's not bad at all. Kind of spongy.
 
Nifty!
 
Well, that looks delicious.
Must.........taste............delicious food.
 
9:22 PM
@Green Oh my god I love that idea so so so much. I dot even know where to begin thanking you; this seriously fits so well in my setting WOW
 
@Pleiades Happy to help!
Anything else I can help with?
@Pleiades There's a bunch of implications with putting babies into larvae stage. If they can communicate then there's shared emotions. With shared emotions there's the change of Bad Things happening. What happens if someone has a nightmare and the rest of the pod freaks out and that latent magic gets dangerous?
Are they born like mammals then placed in the pods? Or do the females of this species lay the eggs? (If the later, what's the ratio of egg size to body weight?)
 
9:41 PM
If they're mammals then put in pods, you'll need to handwave how to handle the very important developmental stages that will happen during their time in the pods.
 
I'm making an alchemical magic system, and have no idea how to make iron. There's a generic material called 'metal', from which mercury, iron, and gold have been made so far, but what should it combine with to get iron?
 
@Piomicron This is an arbitrary system that you're building from scratch right now?
 
@Green Kind of, but you form things in a similar way to how you extract them in a real life, for the most part
 
@Piomicron I'm having trouble answering your question since you can define the rules to be whatever you want them to be.
 
@Green So, Magma is Fire + Earth, Stone is Magma + Water, Metal is Stone + Fire, etc.
 
9:50 PM
@Piomicron Ah, that kind of combination.
 
@Green That's why I'm not asking it on the main forum. This is very opinion-based, so I'm really just asking for ideas
 
Who says you have to include only two elements? What if you combine lots of different elements and in different quantities.
 
Yeah, that also works
 
I mean, bread can be made from as few as three ingredients. It's the ratios and processing that results in different kinds of bread. Paine de ancienne is very similar to ciabatta. It just depends on the ratios of ingredients you stick in and when you add them.
....and how you process them.
Say Fire+Earth = Magma but Fire+Earth = Clay too. Just depends on the ratios of how much you put in.
 
I'd think clay is more along the lines of Sand + Mud
@Green How does heating earth get clay?
 
9:58 PM
@Piomicron I don't know. It's your magic system. I was just making suggestions. They may not work at all in your system.
 
@Green Sorry, I didn't mean that as a criticism. I was just wondering about the logic
@Green I'm simplifying it a bit, I do keep a record of the quantities and everything
 
@Piomicron As a dabbler in pottery, clay evokes images of mud and flame from when it's fired.
 
10:15 PM
Metal and metal? Given that the popular image of metal is basically iron.
 
10:39 PM
@Bellerophon? Did you see my proposed ending?
Dead humans, final battle between two rival Visitor political entities, fast-forward 40,000 years later to play the Voyager Golden Record from Voyager 1 in the Oort Cloud just outside of Gliese 445?
Either that or I replace that last part with Voyager 2 passing by an Oort Cloud colony near Ross 248 and a similar situation happens.
 
11:08 PM
@Bellerophon I'm not sure that will work for my purposes, sorry.
 
@Piomicron -- metal and coal?
or is the latter not a thing in your system?
 
11:32 PM
@Shalvenay?
Did you see the idea I had for an ending?
Basically, RIP humans as part of a scorched Earth policy as friendly Visitors try and rescue us. A war breaks out and the outcome is left ambiguous, while 37,000 - 40,000 years later, one of the Voyager probes is found and the Golden Record is played.
As the series ends, the opening message of the Golden Record begins to play and once it is over.........
The end.
:P
 
@FutureHistorian heheheh
 
What?
Is this a better ending that what I proposed or not really?
 
I like it :D
 
@Shalvenay? How far along the opening of the Golden Record's message should I end?
 
@FutureHistorian no idea on that, though
 
11:44 PM
Well, I will quote it.
As the Secretary General of the United Nations, an organizations of the 147 member states who represent almost all of the human inhabitants of the planet earth. I send greetings on behalf of the people of our planet.
We step out of our solar system into the universe seeking only peace and friendship, to teach if we are called upon, to be taught if we are fortunate. We know full well that our planet and all its inhabitants are but a small part of the immense universe that surrounds us and it is with humility and hope that we take this step.
- UN SecGen Kurt Waldheim
@Shalvenay? Too depressing?
Or is that a good thing for this story?
 
@FutureHistorian I think it's a good ending for the story, in a way
 
How?
After all: when you think about it, with everyone dead and that message being a sign of optimism from a long gone species.......would that not be a little depressing?
 

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