The Factory Floor - 2019-04-23

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12:56 AM

Hi! uh… worldbuilding stackexchange has me confused and I'm looking for advice that I think wouldn't fit in the main part as a question. Essentially I just want to ask if anyone knows good ressources for late eocene flora and fauna cause I've planning a story at that point but I realise my world is… well… empty. And thinking of domesticating the species from then is also a conundrum… ugh… sorry if this chat is not the appropriate place for this, as previously said, i am confused about this place

2 hours later…

Universe Factory

3:04 AM

Universe Factory - Medium: When Gods Fear

posted on April 23, 2019 by Joe_Bloggs

SETTING: A drab office cubicle. Two casually dressed coders (Piphael and Nerephil) sit at their desks, staring at multiple computer monitors covered with diagnostics, code and help pages. Piphael leans forward. Piphael: Hey, Nerephil Nerephil: Yeah? Piphael: Come have a look at these simulations Nerephil locks her computer and wheels her swivel chair over to her colleague’s desk. Piphael: So. …

10 hours later…

1:33 PM

@Nierninwa The chat is a good place to bring up pretty much anything, and it may be a better place than asking it in a question. (depending on how it's worded)

Honestly a google search may be your best bet though. There are plenty of results that might help you out.

newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Eocene#Eocene_flora

Apparently there were tropical forests almost from pole to pole

1:55 PM

Got out of my vehicle: No rain.
Before I reached my work: Pouring.

So that's my Tuesday so far. How's everyone else doing?

2:10 PM

Well...I'm dry, so I've got that going for me.

Which is nice.

Anyone get a new phone lately?

Mine is dying and I am not sure what to get.

Eying that Galaxy Fold, huh?

What's your budget, camp iOS or camp Android?

I have an S7...its time.

Android.

How many months do you think that you have left?

2:12 PM

None, I am way over my 2 year deal for a replacement.

If you can make it until Fall, Galaxies always come down in price right about then, and you could pick up an S10.

Oh, well then

Hear anything about the pixel?

S10 if you're fine with the price tag. The Google Pixel if you're not. Also there's the S10e if you want to stick with a galaxy but want to go cheaper.

Several friends have it and like it. For me the "bang for the buck" ratio seems a bit off.

Pixels do get updates way faster than just about any other Android on the market. Which from a security and a new feature standpoint is a plus.

Looks like 10E to 10 is about 150 bucks difference...

No 3.5mm jack on a Pixel.

2:16 PM

@Green Yo

@NexTerren I generally use blue tooth...but that is annoying.

They do sell a USB-C to 3.5mm converter if you "sometimes but not often" use 3.5mm.

@James I have the pixel 3. really like it

@NexTerren A lot of phone have the converter in the box

I mostly use bluetooth. Love it. I HATE the headphone cord

always catching it on anything

@AndyD273 Yeah once you go without the cord its hard to go back, unless your battery dies...

I use bluetooth for over ear, and I use wired for in-ear.

@James I literally have 2 of them for that purpose

2:19 PM

My Sony overears I can go nearly a week of use on one battery charge. I can't get that life out of earbuds, even case included, so I stick to wired.

I listen to audio stuff all day, and my plantronics m70 has a 11 hour battery life, so I use it most of the time

Although the Sonys have such good sound quality my use of in-ear has sharply fallen off.

@NexTerren Mine are in ear but I wear them to the gym and to the forge...over isn't real practical for active use.

@James I love Nokia.

@James Yeah, I have a set of in ear ones for when I'm doing lout stuff too. work as ear plugs and let me still hear what I'm listening to

2:21 PM

Obi-Wan "That's a name I've not heard in a long time"

I do bluetooth Bose. I used to have in-ear, but I only wear them at work, and I'd have to charge them after about 8-10 hours, and I'd get ear infections periodically. I switched to over-ear, and I can use them for about 20 hours or more before charging.

@NexTerren They're big in Europe still. My dad got one when he needed a phone, and it's real nice.

I'll probably get one after my MS phone completely stops working.

I suppose I could go cheaper and get an S9

@James S9 = S8 with slightly improved camera. They... didn't change much.

I have an S8. It's a good phone. I'm just saying so you're informed.

@James Do you have a budget?

I've also decided I am creating a new gmail account, I am tired of my phone syncing contacts from 9 years ago when I get a system update...super annoying.

2:24 PM

Can you just delete all your contacts?

@AndyD273 I could afford any of the samsungs...but...I also have never needed the latest and greatest phone.

@AndyD273 I don't know what it is, every time I get an OS update for the phone it screws up my contacts...stuff from forever ago shows up, I've had two contacts get merged, duplication happens all the time...super annoying.

@James Go on a rant like Trump and see if you can get some attention, LOL.

@James Since I only get a new phone every 3 years or so, I like to have one that isn't going to be 8 years old by the time I'm done

Sorry, "super annoying" just reminded me of his typical tweet endings.

@Hosch250 He has a lot of followers... it's easy to get stuff moving when several million people see everything you post

2:27 PM

@Hosch250 Fair point.

I've been watching a lot of the pitch meetings on screen rant too...freaking hilarious.

The guy says stuff like that.

@James love that channel

Well, the pitch meeting part

So, my performance tweaks seem to have reduced the site load times by a fair bit, but not by enough.

@AndyD273 I think I've seen... 2 non-pitch meeting videos on that channel, and about four dozen pitch meetings.

@NexTerren The black panther one is pretty exceptional.

Doing some reading, kinda feeling the pixel 3 at the moment...now, does verizon have it in store or do I have to buy it and bring it in...

Do you get a discount if you get it through Verizon?

2:48 PM

@James They should have it in the store

Does this qualify as off-topic? worldbuilding.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/7296/…

@NexTerren Yeah

@JohnLocke Since we use mathjax on main I feel asking about how to use it on meta is fine.

that seems like a question for the chat or the relevant SE site though

@JohnLocke Meta is for questions about using main, being we offer/allow latex on main it seem perfectly acceptable, whats the concern?

1 hour later…

4:03 PM

@Hosch250 Any additional ideas?

Not yet. I'm clearing my ticket queue of failed and urgent tickets ATM.

@James Well good luck. Hopefully they have it in store, and I'm with Andy; it's a popular enough and new enough phone that I would expect it to be in store.

@Hosch250 Wait, what is a "failed" ticket?

OTOH, our SQL server is beginning to be more performant, and re-indexing the DBs is helping a little bit.

@NexTerren A ticket that didn't pass QA.

So, I need to go back and fix something or other before they approve it.

@Hosch250 Ahh, gotcha.

I still think we need to tweak the SQL Server configuration a bit somehow.

OTOH, I've been hearing some reports that some commonly hit pages are now approximately as fast as prod.

And then, we're getting maybe 100 hits per hour or less on stage, and we get thousands on prod, so after some initial slowness, I'm guessing our SQL DBs will get the data they need to optimize themselves a bit better on prod.

And our prod DBs have 10 years worth of data to optimize themselves with, so...

OTOH, I'm not relying on that either way... I don't think it'll get that much faster just from optimization, after re-indexing. Some, but not that much.

2 hours later…

6:02 PM

Do you have a good way of benchmarking which parts take how long?

Some sort of tool?

Or crude logs?

We are using Azure Application Insights.

So we have graphs of general things, like DB call times, time to server response, client load times, etc.

We also have some crude logs of how long certain parts of our site take, but I can't see that on prod since that isn't hosted by Azure yet.

But I can compare old data to new data.

We also think part of the issue is that before, we had a server running SQL Server and another running our web apps, and they were right next to each other physically, and possibly even directly wired (I don't know about this).

Now, we're using an Azure web app and a VM for our DBs, so there's more latency between the two.

6:25 PM

Are they both (the app and the VMs) in the same Azure data center/region?

Yes.

GTG for the bi-monthly (in practice, scheduled monthly, but canceled a lot) company meeting.

TTYL.

Have fun!

@NexTerren Uhhhh....

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Q: Is this idea original?

Just curious - in my DnD campaign i'm writing, the party of adventurers comes across a forest. This forest used to be chill and whatnot, but as a result of the big bad's tampering with dark magic, an endless, bone-chilling winter has covered it. Due to that, most (if not all) of the native animal...

environment forestry

I mean, no is the obvious answer. But this kind of question seems dangerous.

Narnia.

Game of thrones

6:43 PM

I feel like "Is my idea original" falls outside the scope of "helping people build their world" as defined in the help center, yeah.

Do you have those moments when you remember a childhood cartoon and nostalgia floods you?

Also agreed. That high level isn't original. The "corpses litter the floor" is unique from Narnia, at least, but I imagine that's not the point the story hinges upon.

There's no such thing as originality, it's a meme spread by humans, just like religion and superstition. Even the existence of memes proves that. They're the DNA of the soul they're our culture, they're everything we pass on. Expose someone long enough to Fortnite and they'll learn to floss. — Mephistopheles 3 mins ago

When there's trouble, you know who to call (Teen Titans!)
From their tower, they can see it all (Teen Titans!)
When there's evil on the attack
You can rest knowing they got your back
'Cause when the world needs heroes on patrol
Teen Titans, go!

@NexTerren I remember that!

Good times

The Wonderful Adventures of Nils (TV series)

The Wonderful Adventures of Nils (ニルスのふしぎな旅, Nirusu no Fushigi na Tabi) is an anime adaptation of the novel The Wonderful Adventures of Nils by the Swedish author Selma Lagerlöf. The 52 episode series ran on the Japanese network NHK from January 1980 to March 1981. The series was the very first production by Studio Pierrot. The anime was mostly fairly true to the original, apart from the appearance of Nils' pet hamster, and the greater role allowed to the fox Smirre. The music was written by Czech composer Karel Svoboda. The anime was also broadcast in Canada (in French), France, Germany, Sweden...

6:46 PM

Never saw that one... or heard of it.

How did you see it? A certain station?

You should've seen my face when I learned it was an anime.

@NexTerren It's mostly know in Hungary then, I guess.

Also, there was this one

Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the Sea

Spartakus and the Sun Beneath the Sea (French: Les Mondes Engloutis, "The Engulfed Worlds") is a French animated series created by Nina Wolmark. The series consists of 52 episodes, each between 20 and 25 minutes in length, divided into two 26-episode seasons. == Opening narration == Ever since the time of the Great Cataclysm, the Arkadians have lived deep in the center of the Earth. They believed they were the only survivors of this great devastation. Their civilization thrived under the power of their sun, the Tehra...until it began to fail. In desperation, the children of Arkadia broke the law...

@NexTerren Westeros.

Looks like trashy name translations aren't native to Hungary

comlag

@James Haven't read Song of Ice and Fire nor seen the show, so I'll trust you on this!

@Mephistopheles I'm placing you as mid-to-late 30s.

@NexTerren White Walkers and Jon Snow is a suicidal lunatic. That's all you need to know.

6:55 PM

@Mephistopheles I hear that he knows nothing. Perhaps that's why Jon Snow seems suicidal; he just doesn't know that it's going to kill him.

@NexTerren I'm still not allowed to view adult content when using my real birthdate, the one that doesn't predate Jesus Christ.

@Mephistopheles OH, okay, I figured you saw those shows when they were new.

@NexTerren They've been out for some time when I saw them. Or who knows, we had it on VHS.

Also, found the opening

Nils Holgersson Opening (Hungarian)

@NexTerren Let's go up against an army of entropy-defiying zombie supersoldiers led by even more chad ice zombies that can freeze any non-magical weapon and have armor that laughs in the face of magical weapons, all this to capture a zombie and convince a paranoid b#tch to aid them, who just nuked a church!

7:48 PM

@NexTerren Nows a good time to start, final season is underway.

@James I heard the final season took a dive as far as story quality. Agreed?

@NexTerren Well we're only two episodes in and so far its been excellent, so no.

Hmm. Curious why he said that then.

@NexTerren Stupidity?

@James Wow, you don't even know the guy and straight for the throat!

7:56 PM

@NexTerren Its so much easier to be ruthless when you don't know the people on the other end ;)

He said... "The dialogue has just gotten so bad, and D&D seem afraid to actually make any big moves. They're coddling fan favorites."

I later had to clarify that D&D were the show's writers.

@NexTerren lol

I will note that the format and pacing have changed pretty drastically with last season (7) and this final season. Season 6 was the last season based on a written book. Having read all the books I have to say I think the change is for the best...Martin created a cool world but man...

He makes Tolkien look like he wrote in cliff notes.

Honestly this is a good change in my opinion, Martin was 6 novels in and kept introducing new characters and plot lines...which in the face of "The world is ending" got really really annoying.

@NexTerren But as I understand it the show's creators have been working with Martin on the plot, so it can't be too far off what he had planned.

Mmkay, fair,

Well... maybe I'll wait to see that the final season is good and it's not another LOST.

If nothing else they captured what a dragon should look like exceptionally well.

user image

Like so? :D

Googled "Historic dragon art" and picked the ugliest one I saw

8:07 PM

@James I never read any of the novels or saw an episode, but why not stall the end of za warudo then?

Something like that, yeah.

lol

@NexTerren You should've used a selfie then

@Mephistopheles Ooooh, burn!

@NexTerren Some white women in the background: Dracarys!

That insult really tips the scales.

You could say that it really has teeth.

I guess I should stop making these puns, least they dragon.

8:10 PM

@NexTerren Sometimes you make it difficult not to viciously insult you.

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So, I just downloaded ALL JoJo OSTs in 320 kbps 3.89 Gigs of glory

@James Hey man, I started with the first pun, and after that I just winged it.

@NexTerren Niiiiice

@bilbo_pingouin Yo.

I C U

@James Intensive care unit?

You must really hate him

So I say this off of gut feeling and not actual numbers, but it feels like we've gotten fewer questions submitted after the changes to the Hot Network Questions sidebar.

8:13 PM

@NexTerren ...I wonder if there is a way to look that up.

@James yo yourself :)

One of you computer nerds go do some of your database wizardry and get back to us.

@James number of questions per days?

@James Doesn't SE have an API that you can call for these sorts of things?

I need a menacing antagonist for my fantasy novel. Any idea who to rip off.

8:17 PM

Found it.

Now to find the dates that those changes were made. Hm. This might be harder.

@Mephistopheles Grand Moff Tarkin. Sherlock Holmes. Count of Monte Cristo. The clowns in Dumbo.

@NexTerren Clowns? Nah, Alessi is creepier

user image

Actually, that goes for half of the JoJo antagonists.

Mar 11 was when the announcement was posted.

8:35 PM

And the API and I have different ideas what the "page" parameter should mean, so I'm stuck.

I would presume that I specify "pagesize" to limit how many results I get per request, and then, like browsing SE or Google or a forum, I'd hand the "page" parameter to ask which grouping of "pagesize" I want. However, no matter what value of "page" I provide I get the same results.

@kingledion used to be the go to guy for data queries...

@kingledion MOD PING!

...I have entirely too much power.

King we were discussing some site data query stuff but we're all stupid so we were wondering if you had time/interest in assisting.

@James I know SQL, but I'm busy with our prod site freezing ATM.

One of our clients unexpectedly hit our site with 200-300 times the usual traffic, and one part of our site is kind of stuck. Unfortunately, it's one one of the 2 parts of the site that load asynchronously, so the whole site is kind of stuck.

@Hosch250 You should probably be working on that...I mean...sure there is stuff I should be doing too but I just answered a phone call...so thats like...30 minutes of screwing off I get now.

I'm a lowly software dev. Best I can do is fix the issue after the fact.

Site is down.

8:51 PM

data.stackexchange.com/worldbuilding/query/1036850/…

hard to say that there's a real effect...

at least using a day-to-day conglomerate

Check for closed questions, though.

9:07 PM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Questions

** Naga Speech Ability ** Question In my world there are snake people (aka Naga). They have a snake body and head with their humanoid characteristic being arms. (Side note, this is a quick post from phone. I'll be doing some research later to see if there's a specific type of snale head I want ...

data.stackexchange.com/worldbuilding/query/1036850/…

looking at it grouped by weeks, I don't see much difference with last year

It's fixing itself.

I mean, our site down.

Site is up, performance is good, CPU still high, but dropping.

9:26 PM

Apparently they removed some data from the page, and everything is good now.

We'll have to redo that piece to make it perform reasonably OK.

@Hosch250 data.stackexchange.com/worldbuilding/query/1036850/… does not change anything...

1 hour later…

10:53 PM

What is up, my peoples?

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