The Factory Floor - 2018-11-14

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JavaScriptCoder

1:49 AM

Took a break from here, now I'm back. Want to make sure my questions are suitable for the site. If anyone could take a look at this sandbox question that would be great! worldbuilding.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/6168/…

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Questions

Continent Skydome Impact on Weather Tags: hard-scienceweatherclimatescience-fiction The question I asked recently in this question how paranoid aliens afraid of going the way described in "War of the Worlds" would sequester native flora and fauna in a preserve. One of the coolest answers I...

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7:38 AM

yoooo, please be alive

3 hours later…

11:05 AM

@dot_Sp0T It has been pretty quiet in here just lately hasn't it.

1 hour later…

12:19 PM

It's terrible

@dot_Sp0T I don't know how bad it is the rest of the time but definitely my "on" time it's dead in here the last couple of weeks.

JavaScriptCoder

Yeah, ‘‘tis quiet

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2:06 PM

@dot_Sp0T Lightning Strike! It's alive! It's alive!

3:05 PM

I'm alive...at least I think so. Let me ask Descartes...

@Green I'd have to look at it again but it doesn't seem inherently unfair to me.

3:17 PM

@James Wasn't it Descartes that said, "I smell smoke, therefore I am."

@kingledion Close enough

So, how are things, James

@kingledion Sleepy. I played DnD until far too early in the morning.

@James Unfair question to you specifically because we know each other a lot better so knowing that it's me in the text will be difficult to differentiate from what you read in the text itself.

@Green Yeah I was totally planning to cheat and just base it on you.

3:26 PM

I'm starting to get fired up for this year's holiday datapalooza

I'm looking for good ideas for informations I could gather

@kingledion Don't forget bounta-palooza

Fired up for that too

@kingledion As long as you measure in James' I'm good.

Now that I have catastrophically lost my reputation race with Willk, I can give as many bounties as I please

@kingledion I've never been in a rep race

3:29 PM

@James Hah! Still in your head!

JavaScriptCoder

any of you willing to look at my sandbox post...?

@JavaScriptCoder Sure, linkey

@JavaScriptCoder topic?

JavaScriptCoder

posted yesterday, but hold on one sec

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Questions

Continent Skydome Impact on Weather Tags: hard-scienceweatherclimatescience-fiction The question I asked recently in this question how paranoid aliens afraid of going the way described in "War of the Worlds" would sequester native flora and fauna in a preserve. One of the coolest answers I...

there we go

i gtg, but I'll check back later

@JavaScriptCoder Ok, many notes: First, a circle should be described by its radius or diameter, 2000km x 2000km sounds like a square.

3:34 PM

@kingledion I was about to say that.

JavaScriptCoder

ok

Is there any altering of the flora and fauna or are you just dropping a big ass dome on top of what already exists there?

Is that ocean around it?

@JavaScriptCoder Mixed forest like the Caucasus doesn't computer with 60 degrees north and Earth-like. The Caucasus forests are in the 40-45 N range.

...what the hell happens to the tides?

@JavaScriptCoder Also, your list of requests is going to be a magnet for close votes, I'd just say, "How will the temp and precipitation change once the dome is down?"

@JavaScriptCoder I think hard-science would be fine, as long as you are willing to wait a while for good answers.

Those questions usually get fewer responses

3:37 PM

@kingledion internal temp and precipitation

@James Indeed

You'll also get asked what technology the dome has if any...

JavaScriptCoder

yeah, probably

The tides would look funny, since you wouldn't have any inside the dome

also specify if the system is completely closed

3:40 PM

@JavaScriptCoder Also, if it is really 2000 km diameter, then it will involve more biomes than just the one you list. 2000 km gets you from Moscow to Aleppo, about 18 degrees of latitude (on Earth). So there will be quite a variety of climates

@JavaScriptCoder Overall looks interesting and legit to me.

@kingledion A follow up question of how those biomes change...because they probably would, seems in order as well.

JavaScriptCoder

Yeah there will be a series

@JavaScriptCoder I like the question, but you need some edits/clarifications per ^^

JavaScriptCoder

thank you!

yup, will get to it

@JavaScriptCoder I'd appreciate an explicit list of biomes and their locations. That will help with reasoning about climate.

3:43 PM

I'd also probably go with science-based ...instead of hard-science

JavaScriptCoder

ok

@Green wasn't there a Stephen King movie/book where a blob thing eats people?

@James Is that The Mist? I've never been able to read King.

@AndyD273 I read his more fantasy stuff...Eye of the Dragon, the Dark Tower series...

nevermind, I am dumb.

The Blob is a 1958 independently made American science-fiction horror film in color by De Luxe, produced by Jack H. Harris, directed by Irvin Yeaworth, and written by Kay Linaker and Theodore Simonson. The film stars Steve McQueen (in his starring feature film debut, as Steven McQueen) and Aneta Corsaut and co-stars Earl Rowe and Olin Howland. The Blob was distributed by Paramount Pictures as a double feature with I Married a Monster from Outer Space. The storyline concerns a growing, corrosive, alien amoeboidal entity that crashes to Earth from outer space inside a meteorite. It devours and...

The only King book I've ever finished was The Running Man, and it was written in a completely different style because he wrote it under a pen name.

4:03 PM

@James That movie is what came to mind when you mentioned a blob.

Yeah, but I didn't know if there was some terrible King book that also had a blob...

I mean, he wrote The Langoliers, so anything is possible

4:31 PM

@James I think I would watch the cliff notes version of the Blob. 1950's era movies are kind of hard to get into.

4:42 PM

@AndyD273 Yeah my appreciation for him is pretty focused.

@Green They did a remake in the 80's I am pretty sure that is the one I saw growing up.

I have a snippet of that movie in my head of the blob slowly heading toward a chained up dog, or something like that. I think my parents changed the channel about that time so as not to scare us.

I think I remember a kid riding a bike in a sewer pipe...its ends...poorly for him.

@James Lets be fair, several mistakes were made that day.

@AndyD273 It's really not the blob's fault he identifies as an acidic amorphous eating machine.

5:23 PM

@AndyD273 I remember my first exposure to death, in any form. It was a Saturday Morning cartoon. Some kids were trying to escape in a ship or vehicle of some kind from some monster or lava. There was some adult who was trying to help them. He wore a gold headdress. The kids got away but the headdress was shown on the ground, without it's owner.

I remember being really shook up by that and couldn't watch that show anymore.

5:37 PM

Horror movies of that time were pretty tame, really. You had The Mummy, Frankenstein, The blob... either classic monsters or faceless things. The first true modern horror movie was The Day of the Dead. It's the reason that we have an R rating. When it opened television wasn't a common thing, so parents would give their kid a nickle on saturday and send them to the theater to watch movies, cartoons, whatever. They could watch The Blob and get a little scared, but not scarred.

Then Day of the Dead was released, and a lot of unsuspecting parents sent their kids to the theater as normal... The outcry afterward was enough that a new Restricted rating was created so that parents would know that it wasn't age appropriate.

Sorry, Night of the Living Dead, not day of the dead

According to Ebert, the film affected the audience immediately:
The kids in the audience were stunned. There was almost complete silence. The movie had stopped being delightfully scary about halfway through, and had become unexpectedly terrifying. There was a little girl across the aisle from me, maybe nine years old, who was sitting very still in her seat and crying... It's hard to remember what sort of effect this movie might have had on you when you were six or seven. But try to remember. At that age, kids take the events on the screen seriously, and they identify fiercely with the hero.…

@Green Sounds a bit like your experience

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6:47 PM

@AndyD273 Just watched some of a clip of the Night of the Living Dead. It's a very different feel than the Mummy.

7:38 PM

@Green yuck

Yeah, it was basically the first of its kind. In the mummy you can watch a guy in a rubber mask and bandages walk around with his arms out, and get beaten by the hero in the end. in Night of the Living Dead you get to see a little girl eat her fathers dead body... and then get to see the hero killed in the end...

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Maaaaan, I just ate lunch.

And now we have worse than that every week on cable TV with The Walking Dead as one example. I'm not sure what that says about entertainment and society...

@AndyD273 American Horror Story comes to mind.

I have not watched that yet. I'm not actually a huge horror fan, at least when it comes to shows/movies.

Zombies aren't too bad, so long as the story is interesting, and maybe I'm just desensitized to them after TWD and RE.

7:49 PM

@AndyD273 Zombieland is an amazing film and should have won all of the awards.

Zombieland was good

So was Shaun of the Dead in a similar vein

I don't think I've ever had anyone recommend AHS, so I've never really been interested, and the thumbnails turn me off

8:10 PM

@AndyD273 I think my wife has watched all the seasons. My wife is weird though, she married me :)

8:50 PM

Hmm, after seeing todays XKCD, and watching Twister not all that long ago... Why has no one loaded a drone full of weather gear and flown it into a tornado? It's gotta be cheaper than a Ford F-250...

@AndyD273 Part of me thinks that'd be really good but part of me thinks the video footage would be really boring. Lots of brown swirling, twisting motions then black; much like what it looks like when a drone gets hit by a hawk then crashes.

Everything's fine...dut-de-doo! then! WhAMMO! Hawk strike.

Hawk vs. Drone! (Hawk Attacks Quadcopter)

@Green Sure, but the camera bit wouldn't be the the interesting part, mostly for the reason you say. It would just be a delivery method for instrumentation that would then measure something like wind speed or a cow counter.

VIDEO INSIDE A TORNADO!!! Aurora, NE Tornado, June 17, 2009

@AndyD273 Do the cow counter!

That's a good point, thank you. Air pressure and acceleration would be handy to have.

"Sir, the cow counter just went through the roof... Ah, the Dixons dairy farm is in that area, right?"

I think there is a reason they mostly grow corn in those areas... that way it's usually not anything interesting that gets destroyed.

9:08 PM

@AndyD273 HAHAHAHHA!!!

@AndyD273 I found a Minnesota corn farmer on Youtube. Watching stuff happen on the farm is actually pretty interesting.

@Green Oh, I'm sure interesting things can happen around, and occasionally to, corn. But Corn by itself isn't all that interesting.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Questions

how best to keep a human sacrifice from dying until the ritual is complete? Upon death, all souls leave the body and go directly to God to become one with its consciousness. However, there are other competing gods who wish to claim human souls for their own purposes. Souls provide gods with powe...

@AndyD273 Fair. Corn the plant is pretty boring. The drama and action involved in keeping your machinery running is pretty crazy.

9:45 PM

@Green DO NOT go swimming in a grain silo. Its worse than quicksand.

@James That would make it the wrong kind of exciting if it were me in the silo.

I'm very aware that pretty much all farm machinery is designed to do in fractions of a second what used to take a horse minutes to do. Most of the time, they aren't even aware they've hurt a person.

@Green Especially the combines...those guys are jerks.

I am testing whether it is indeed possible to be considered racist against a certain type of farm machinery.

10:02 PM

@James Perhaps not racist against types of farm machinery, but you sure as sh** can be racist about brands of farm machinery.

Look at those Green Deeres over there. Thinkin' they can pull grain carts. Pfft. They get stuck in the mud when it's a nine year drought!

We are so very very weird.

@James Yes. Yes, we are. Aren't you glad you found this place?

Phsssh, I helped make this place :D

@James Yeah... You seen the "A Quiet Place" movie?

Nope. Sounds creepy.

10:16 PM

@James It's really quite good

Bit of horror, but not gory horror

Do yourself a favor and don't look up any trailers

if there is the slightest chance you might watch it

@James So did i!

It feels like the kind of movie that M Night might have made back when everyone thought he was good.

@AndyD273 "Night of the Living Machinery"?

(Sorry, merging discussions of horror and farm machinery)

Heh

No, (assuming you didn't get the reference) M Night Shamalama or however you spell it. It's more suspense than horror, but there is a little bit of that. The thing that brought it to mind is the part with the grain silo.

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