The Frying Pan

> When we make caramel standing at the stove, we use high heat to liquefy and then brown the sugar in a few minutes, and the liquefying temperature can be upwards of 380°F/190°C. But Professor Schmidt's group found that when they ramped up the heat slowly, over the course of an hour, so that significant chemical breakdown takes place before the solid structure gives way, the sugar liquefied at 290°F/145°C.

but it says in the same article

> For me, the epitome of stovetop alchemy is making caramel from table sugar. You start with refined sucrose, pure crystalline sweetness, put it in a pan by itself, and turn on the heat. When the sugar rises above 320°F/160°C, the solid crystals begin to melt together into a colorless syrup. Then another 10 or 20 degrees above that, the syrup begins to turn brown ...

wikipedia says there's no melting point, only the decomposing at 367, I think the idea is that by the time it's liquid it's no longer sucrose

Catija

Woah... that's really kinda crazy.

Jefromi

the underlying stuff there is the same as why the serious eats article mentions the sugar eventually turning tan

it's slowly caramelizing at below the normal cutoff (because that's not actually a cutoff, it's just where it starts being really fast instead of slow)

rumtscho

I never knew of the syrup caramel method until I discovered American recipes

a pot of sugar decomposes on the stove perfectly fine without water.

Jefromi

I know I've melted sugar in a pot I just have no idea what temperature

rumtscho

well, "perfectly fine" if you know what to do and what not to do. When you see the bottom melting, don't stir in the still granular sugar that's on top.

Catija

8:36 AM

There was definitely a tan ring around the edges when I pulled the crust out.

rumtscho

they get hotter than the center

Jefromi

huh, mine wasn't noticeably tan after one go

maybe I underbaked

rumtscho

I have to go to work now, see you later

Catija

My oven started at 425.

Jefromi

ah right

Catija

8:37 AM

I lowered it and left it open to cool but it got a good 7-8 minutes at 425.

@rumtscho have a great day!

Jefromi

bye rumtschotscho

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Catija

Nearing on 3 am. Time to get some sleep.

Jefromi

good night cotija

Catija

I'm not cheese!

Jefromi

good night non-cheese catija

Catija

8:49 AM

Night :)

Jolenealaska

9:48 AM

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