The Frying Pan

@TasteFive nah, its really a convenience thing at that point. Move the work to a different time so that for lunch I just grab a slice of tasty special cheese for my easy grilled cheese

Taste Five

@rfusca i could see that i guess

rumtscho

Why wouldn't you eat a compound cheese straight?

rfusca

6:08 PM

@rumtscho i find the texture of such cheeses when they're solid to be less than desireable

Taste Five

@rumtscho I wouldnt think it would taste good at all

rfusca

not of normal compound, but of the slices ala American-style like earlier

Taste Five

especially if the texture was anything resembling american

rfusca

yup

Taste Five

again, I am hung up on the gelatin

rumtscho

6:10 PM

@rfusca We have edges of American-style compound cheeses here, we use them as a bread spread.

rfusca

american is meant to melt..unmelted its really bad

Taste Five

@rumtscho as a spread??

rfusca

@rumtscho you definitely could not use normal american cheese as a spread...you're not talking about the same product

which explains a lot of your side of the conversation

Taste Five

ya your thinking somthing else entirely

rumtscho

It comes in two kinds, one is thin square slices, the other is in edges.

The square slices are wrapped in foil separately, because else they would cling together.

rfusca

6:12 PM

edges?

rumtscho

rfusca

wedges!

rumtscho

Each of the six pieces is wrapped in alu foil.

Taste Five

not the same stuff

rumtscho

OK, sorry. I didn't even realize I'm using the wrong word, although now you said it, I know I know it.

rfusca

6:13 PM

ya, i've never heard of wedges of american cheese with a spreadable consistency. Pretty much the only way it is here is those square rubbery slices

rumtscho

The square kind is this one.

Taste Five

yep

rfusca

right

that is what Kenji replicated

rumtscho

They are made by the same technology

And if you cast the "slices" thick enough, you get the "wedges".

Taste Five

I couldn't see how you could spread it.

rfusca

6:15 PM

All i'm saying is that normal american cheese, you cannot spread

if you can spread it, its not the same stuff

Taste Five

if it was thick it would be like velveeta which you couldn't spread

rumtscho

Maybe they use less cheese and more whey in the wedges, making them softer.

Taste Five

those wedges are a processed cheese product, and not a fresh young cheese with stuff added for flavor?

rfusca

lol, from wikipedia about american cheese - ' In many jurisdictions, it does not meet the legal definition of cheese and must be labeled as "cheese analogue"'

rumtscho

Yes, they are made from cheese, whey, and additives.

rfusca

6:18 PM

real american cheese isn't made from cheese...its a funky mix of dairy products that vaguely resembles cheese like substance

Taste Five

@rfusca Yes, my understanding of american cheese and velveeta is that they are not trully clasified as cheese

rumtscho

In Germany, you can call them "Schmelzkäse" (cheese for melting) as long as they have at least 50% real cheese in them.

rfusca

@TasteFive ya I don't think they are

Taste Five

@rfusca it does start of with a mixture of real cheese

rfusca

@TasteFive from my understanding, it used to but doesn't anymore

Taste Five

6:19 PM

@rfusca central market wont even put them in there cheese department, they are under dairy

rfusca

its wikipedia, but it seems real to me - " It has been made from a blend of cheeses, most often Colby and Cheddar. Today’s American cheese is generally no longer made from a blend of other cheeses, but instead is manufactured from a set of ingredients[1] such as milk, whey, milkfat, milk protein concentrate, whey protein concentrate, and salt."

rumtscho

You can use either real cheese or other dairy stuff.

Taste Five

@rfusca sounds about right

@rumtscho either way, I would be interested to see those wedges.

rfusca

you know what...i bet she's talking about a product similar to Cheez Whiz

rumtscho

@TasteFive I'm afraid the shipping costs will be too high. And then you'll have to spend a day in customs.

Taste Five

6:22 PM

@rfusca that is what I am thinking as well

rumtscho

If I'm allowed to send animal products outside of the EU at all.

rfusca

you can spread Cheez Whiz

rumtscho

Here, you see an unpacked wedge.

Taste Five

wow that looks like american

but how is that spreading

rfusca

that doesn't look spreadable to me...

rumtscho

6:23 PM

Do you notice how it holds its shape, but has impressions from the wrinkles in the foil? That's because it is softer than butter from the fridge.

It does spread, really.

Taste Five

wow, that is unique

rumtscho

It has the same glossy look like the squares

Taste Five

I havent seen anything like it here

rumtscho

but you can't tear you the way you can tear squares.

rfusca

Velveeta looks pretty close to that out of the fridge. If it was a little softer, it would spread

Taste Five

6:24 PM

learn somthing new every day

rfusca

i guess its somewhere between velveeta and cheez whiz

Taste Five

@rfusca sounds like a good enough explanation

rfusca

which frankly, still sounds gross lol

Taste Five

@rfusca yeah I couldn't imagine it. Maybe they make it better over there, than they do here

Sobachatina

@rfusca Sounds great to me.

rumtscho

6:26 PM

rfusca

it must have a different flavor though. Nobody, and I mean, nobody willingly snacks on un-melted velveeta

Sobachatina

You could use it as packing material or an industrial lubricant.

rfusca

@Sobachatina lol

rumtscho

That's in the process of spreading.

yossarian

@rumtscho, I'm familiar with the wedges, but Americans would definitely not call that American cheese. In fact, when it's available in the US, it's always got European packaging. I don't remember where it was from in England...

rumtscho

6:28 PM

@yossarian As I said, the Germans only have a single term for processed cheese, which includes American cheese. Maybe that's why I find it hard to see the difference.

rfusca

@yossarian is that those same lil' wedges that they sell as 'laughing cow cheese'?

rumtscho

Sure, the squares are drier. But the texture is still very similar.

@rfusca That's exactly it, it is a big French brand.

La vache qui ris.

yossarian

@rfusca, yes.

rfusca

ah, ok....now this whole conversation makes sense

lol

rumtscho

I'm glad we could clear that up.

Taste Five

6:30 PM

@rfusca I see know, I have never bought it before or even seen it unwrapped. I'll have to try it now.

rfusca

i think i bought it once. it was 'ok' but not worth the price

rumtscho

@TasteFive It isn't the crown achievement of the dairy industry. It just has a texture which can come in handy in some cases.

Taste Five

@rumtscho understood, but after this conversation, I think it is diserving of at least a taste

rfusca

ya, but its like two totally different things to me comparing that product to sliced American cheese. Its like calling chicken and beef the same because they're both meat - to me.

yossarian

@rfusca, you don't just refer to them as meat? Weird.

rumtscho

6:32 PM

@rfusca To me, it is totally unexplainable how you can say cherry when you mean sour cherry. But that's life for you.

Taste Five

@rfusca but if they only really have one disticntion for processed cheese, you can see were the mixup is.

yossarian

@TasteFive, I think it's worth a taste, but it reminds me of childhood, so I may be wrong. Unfortunately it's an import so you pay for that.

rfusca

@TasteFive oh totally, it just still seems whacky

@yossarian :P no, but I don't call chicken, beef

rumtscho

@yossarian Yes, the import thing is ugly. The stuff at the English shop was also two to three times its normal price, despite the fact that there are no import taxes within the EU.

rfusca

@rumtscho indeed, like i said - for me

hobodave

6:34 PM

Every time I glance at this question I see: "How can I keep my wife relatively clean when making waffles?"

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Q: How can I keep my waffle iron relatively clean when making waffles?

I do not make waffles overly frequently, but when I do I tend to make a mess of my waffle iron. I use a ladle to place waffle batter in the middle of my waffle iron. On accident I occasionally overfill the iron so that when it is closed batter runs out the sides. The obvious answer is use less ba...

rumtscho

And where does the iron come in?!

rfusca

@hobodave ya, i really gotta stop flinging waffles at the missus...

rumtscho

I bet you also read "I use a lady to place wife batter"

rfusca

i gonna switch to a cast iron waffle pan which I think will be ultimately easer to clean. All the electric ones I've had are a PITA

amazon.com/Romes-1100-Fashioned-Waffle-Iron/dp/B000BWCTL0

rumtscho

How is a cast iron waffle pan heated?

rfusca

6:37 PM

@rumtscho on the stove

rumtscho

Oh, I didn't know they had this shape.

But does the upper half get hot enough?

Or do you exchange halves for each waffle?

rfusca

you just flip it half way through

rumtscho

Interesting.

rfusca

and it fits with my current cast iron kick

Taste Five

@rfusca yeah you are serious loving cast iron right know

rumtscho

6:39 PM

At least your habit is cheap on your side of the pond.

rfusca

indeed

rumtscho

amazon.de/…

rfusca

@TasteFive yes, yes I am

rumtscho

Click through for the price.

rfusca

DAMN

Taste Five

6:41 PM

@rumtscho OMG, that is crazy

rumtscho

It's a luxury product for snobs.

Taste Five

@rfusca couldn't you heat both side up and cook the waffle off the stove. Cast iron should retain the heat pretty well

rfusca

considered that as well

rumtscho

I mean, that's who buys it here. Not people who are accustomed to iron being a great material for cooking, but people who want to cook in style.

rfusca

wierd

hobodave

6:43 PM

@rumtscho I like to cook in style

Taste Five

@rfusca I would think it would heat up to slow if you tried to flip during cooking without both sides already being heated up

rumtscho

@hobodave That's not a bad thing in itself. But there are people who put style before functionality in tools.

rfusca

@TasteFive i need to replace my waffle maker with CI and my muffin tins, and get a good enameled CI dutch oven and I'll be happy

@TasteFive agreed, it would need to start off hot. But that's really only a problem for the first batch because it retains heat so well.

Taste Five

@rfusca If you have a costco near you, I have been happy with my Kirkland brand CI enameled dutch oven

rumtscho

I mean, style before functionaility is perfect for decoration. But the idea of paying 200 Euros for a water kettle because it is designed by Porsche engineers sounds crazy to me.

rfusca

6:45 PM

@TasteFive it'll probably be either the Lodge or the Tramontina is rated well

walmart.com/ip/Tramontina-6.5-Quart-Cast-Iron-Dutch-Oven-Red/…

Taste Five

@rfusca Lodge is a good go to company. Never used there enameled products though

rfusca

@TasteFive ya, pretty much all my CI is Lodge - but they don't make a waffle maker yet :(

the tramontina is slightly large, which I'm trying to determine if I need

but I trust Lodge's warranty and brand name more

hobodave

my favorite style when I cook is nude with just an apron

2

rfusca

i think i just went blind

from a mental image

Taste Five

@hobodave ummmmmm, ok

hobodave

6:48 PM

well I tried it sans apron before but that goes poorly when hot oil is involved

Taste Five

@hobodave just nothing that spatters, right

hobodave

I don't think $150 is much to spend on a pan though

rfusca

for a new cast iron pan it seems really high

Taste Five

@rfusca how did the orange chicken go last night

rumtscho

@hobodave depends on the pan.

rfusca

6:50 PM

@TasteFive wonderfully

Taste Five

@rfusca only if you compare to lodge. Not staub or le creuset

rumtscho

@TasteFive Yes, but does a staub pan cook food which is three times as good?

rfusca

@TasteFive well, i'm not talking about enameled cast iron - i'm referring to those wicked expensive normal CI waffle pans that rumtscho linked

Taste Five

@rfusca I agree, just saying it depends on comparison.

rfusca

cooks illustrated rated the lodge above the staub

(I believe it was cooks illustrated at least)

rumtscho

6:53 PM

I actually paid 100 Euros for a small enameled DO from Le Creuset

Taste Five

@rfusca they take price into factor with there reviews.

as they should

rumtscho

But if another brand had been available, I would have gotten a cheaper one.

rfusca

but gave it to the le creuset overall for one big reason

hobodave

CI did not review the Staub

rfusca

@hobodave i must be thinking of somebody else then

rumtscho

6:54 PM

OK, so what was the reason for Le Creuset?

hobodave

CI rated both Lodge and Camp Chef as "Highly Recommended"

rfusca

the lid is machined to sit flat

hobodave

they also have an enamel interior

rumtscho

So, Staub sells pans for hundreds of euros and the lid doesn't even fit tight?!

rfusca

other brands use three small bumps to create a stable, but not flat surface

Taste Five

6:54 PM

is lodge not an enameled interior

rfusca

@TasteFive they make both

Taste Five

@rfusca ah, ok

rfusca

@rumtscho i've never used one, i'm just going off what I read. I'll have to find the reviews I looked at

Taste Five

my kirkland brands appear to be machined flat. At least it doesnt have the bumps

rfusca

@TasteFive thats nice, does it sit tight?

Taste Five

6:56 PM

I think I paid $50 for it

@rfusca it does

rumtscho

Where is the point of using a cast iron dutch oven, if you have air moving freely through a gap between the lid and body?

hobodave

I have a CI subscription if you guys ever need me to look stuff up btw. I'm happy to.

Taste Five

costco.com/Browse/…

i got it on sale i guess, cause i know i didnt pay 80

might be cheaper in the stores

rfusca

@rumtscho very, very small bumps

@TasteFive seems to get good reviews

Taste Five

plus. mine is a white enamel on the inside, the pic doesn't reflect that.

this might just be a newer model

rfusca

6:58 PM

looks thinner though

Taste Five

also notice it is made in france

rfusca

@TasteFive interesting. it looks pretty decent - but I'd have to see it before buying and I don't think there's a costco close

Taste Five

worth noting is that costco sold a le creuset, before they had this branded one

rfusca

3.5 hours away :(

Taste Five

@rfusca bummer

rumtscho

7:00 PM

@hobodave That's cool, can you maybe send me the article on ice cream makers in some way? cooksillustrated.com/equipment/overview.asp?docid=25989

rfusca

@TasteFive ya, we have a lack of good stores in the area

for as much as I love arkansas, the shopping is not good

Taste Five

@rfusca it wont be a problem the lodge will be just fine I am sure.

hobodave

@rumtscho Sure, is it OK to send to your yahoo email address?

rfusca

here's a picture of those bumps on the rim btw

chow.com/uploads/0/5/2/671250_img_0537.jpg?20110923041427

i need to get a look at the Tramontina to see if its the same way or not

Taste Five

@rfusca interesting

rumtscho

7:07 PM

BTW, as we are talking about international food exchange

Taste Five

wonder how much of a difference that really makes

rfusca

three of them, make it like a tripod so that the lids don't have to be truly flat or fitting to look stable

rumtscho

I am having the first bite of Hershey's in my life.

Taste Five

@rumtscho :)

rfusca

@rumtscho compared to european chocolate...its pretty waxy

Taste Five

7:08 PM

@rfusca lol

rfusca

it is!

rumtscho

@rfusca I have a milk chocolate bar here, so I don't expect that much.

rfusca

good to keep your expectations low with most american chocolate ;)

rumtscho

But I also think it is made with non-dutched cocoa. European chocolate is always made with dutched cocoa.

Taste Five

I am so not a chocolate person. Hersheys milk chocolate is my favorite

hobodave

7:09 PM

@rumtscho read my last message to you before I get distracted and never send this :P

Taste Five

people think I am totally crazy

rumtscho

I think it's pretty OK, but don't have a European milk chocolate here to compare.

rfusca

@TasteFive you are crazy

i'm a big chocolate person though

which is no surprise given my inclination towards desserts

rumtscho

@hobodave Oh, sorry, didn't see it. Yes, that's OK.

Forgot that you can see the address, and was just thinking of a way to give it to you without leaving it in the transcript for all robots around the internet to read.

Taste Five

@rfusca yeah even in dessert I rarely would opt for chocolate

rumtscho

7:13 PM

@rfusca you are totally right about the waxy part.

There is European chocolate which uses emulsifiers, but probably not in these amounts.

rfusca

@rumtscho yup. I've eaten a fair amount of good chocolate and then when I bite a hershey's its like eating a bar of wax

hobodave

@rumtscho sent

rumtscho

@rfusca I was just curious, because it is mentioned often in American sources.

rfusca

ya, its super, super common over here

and quite cheap

rumtscho

I wouldn't expect it to compare to a Lindt or a Cote d'or, but there are common chocolates here too.

Do you have Milka in the States? It is a Kraft product now.

rfusca

7:15 PM

I'm not sure if we do yet..but I've had Milka

rumtscho

Actually Kraft Jacobs Suchard, but I think you don't use the long concern name as often as the brand.

Milka is pretty much the standard chocolate in Germany.

rfusca

based on their website, I don't think its here yet

rumtscho

Reasonable price, OK taste, big variety.

rfusca

I used to sell different imported chocolates as a fund raiser for German club in high school :)

rumtscho

How did you like it?

rfusca

7:17 PM

it was pretty decent

Taste Five

@rumtscho they are all owned by phillip morris now

rumtscho

@hobodave Thank you very much, it arrived and I'm starting reading it.

Is it normal for CI tests to be so short?

Taste Five

wow, I just actually double checked my previous statement and phillip morris actually distributed its holding of kraft to its share holders so it is actually now an independently held company, that is actually very interesting.

hobodave

@rumtscho pretty much, there's more to it but they segment it inconveniently on their website, e.g. there is the "overview" which is a few paragraphs explaining the testing criteria, then there is a bit of detailed product info on each product, on a separate page, and finally the "results" page that I sent you

rumtscho

@TasteFive Wikipedia says Kraft were bought by Philip Morris in 1988, bought Jacobs Suchard in 1993, and left Philip Morris in 2007. So they are not Philip Morris any more.

rfusca

7:27 PM

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A: Should cooking with drugs (legal or illegal) questions be on topic?

Please, give me a break. Once you edited out the potency reference (which was clearly off topic), leaving the rest is just gratuitous grandstanding. It's asked simply to provoke. This isn't a drug issue or an issue of legality. It's a content issue and what you want for this site. Are you even a...

Taste Five

yeah I just want aware of the 2007 move. When I studied them in collage it was all about the phillip morris move.

I recanted my statement above

hobodave

go Robert

rumtscho

@hobodave I see, they have a Web layout. With German magazines, people with Web subscriptions usually get a pdf file with each article as printed in the magazine, and it has lots more to say, that's why I wondered. The results are then a densely-packed table, so I didn't recognize them as such.

Taste Five

@rfusca I haven't looked back on that question in a while. Didn't realize anyone was trying to say free speech

hobodave

well that's what the whole "well we can't censor drugs.." argument is

Taste Five

7:32 PM

@hobodave I thought the argument though was in certain society the is a cooking relevance, not a we should be able to talk about it because of free speech.

hobodave

I have seen no one claim there is cooking relevance in any society

rumtscho

So, you would classify cannabis butter as food?

Taste Five

I guess I have mainly followed the discussion on this chat

@rumtscho I would not

hobodave

what you classify it as is irrelevant

that just brings out the dictionary/wikipedia nerds

Taste Five

But it was brought up in the chat that because cannabis butter had a uniquely different process to its preparation than say just any other herb butter, the process could be relivant to discuss. I could see an arguement made for that

hobodave

7:35 PM

the "drugs include nutmeg" and "food includes cum" because they fit the definition crowd

Sobachatina

I'm late but I have an opinion about the chocolate thing.

Taste Five

@hobodave But I have said if it were left totally up to me I would rather just leave it off the site. But I am in no way King

Sobachatina

Cheap chocolate in the US tastes way better than cheap chocolate in Europe.

hobodave

it's a shame when common sense is considered a poor justification for something that is in fact common sense :)

rumtscho

@Sobachatina I can listen to opinions about chocolate any time.

Sobachatina

7:37 PM

Expensive chocolate in Europe doesn't taste better than expensive chocolate in the US.

The problem is that we only get the expensive European chocolate here which people compare to cheap US chocolate and are then convinced that all chocolate in Europe is amazing.

You can by the same cheap, waxy, chocolate in gas stations there that you can here- but there it will be mostly puffed-rice filler.

There. I'm done.

Taste Five

@Sobachatina its a good point, you dont see very much high end made in america chocolate in the super markets

rfusca

@TasteFive true

Sobachatina

It doesn't even have to be that expensive to compare favorably.

rumtscho

@hobodave No, the word "common sense" is in fact bad I think. Because everybody thinks that his own beliefs are the beliefs of everybody (or at least everybody who matters) and labels those "common sense".

rfusca

@Sobachatina interesting. I'll admit, I don't know that i've ever had cheap euro chocolate. They probably don't bother to import the stuff

Sobachatina

7:39 PM

I usually buy 70% cocoa bars in the candy isle for a couple bucks a bar.

hobodave

@rumtscho really has nothing to do with belief here, but I don't want to discuss this anymore

Sobachatina

More expensive but I don't make smores out of it.

rumtscho

OK, I'll continue discussing chocolate then :)

Sobachatina

Good. Join us.

Taste Five

yes chocolate is a much better topic even in my opinion

rumtscho

7:40 PM

So, what is "good" American chocolate then?

rfusca

lol

Sobachatina

Toblerone.

Just kidding.

Taste Five

@Sobachatina lol

rumtscho

I'm not much of a Toblerone fan.

rfusca

scharffenberger

scharffenberger.com

rumtscho

7:41 PM

In Europe, you have 4 tiers of chocolate.

The lowest are some supermarket brands which taste terrible.

Taste Five

@rfusca hey I have had there chocolate, it is actually pretty darn good. I thought it was an import though

sometimes its good to be wrong

rfusca

nope, Cali :)

Taste Five

ahh, cali

rumtscho

Second comes "normal chocolate", like Milka and Ritter Sport. Can have veggie fat instead of cocoa, but has a decent taste.

rfusca

@TasteFive its right up there with any chocolate I've ever had from anybody or anywhere

and you pay accordingly

rumtscho

7:43 PM

Price around 1.20 € for 100 grams, comes in lots of different tastes, doesn't go to more than 60% cocoa for the darkest sorts.

rfusca

five pound baking squares is about 70 bucks, not including shipping

rumtscho

Third is the luxury chocolate, like Lindt. Really good stuff, starts at 2 € for 100 grams for plain chocolate, runs from 30% to 99% chocolate content. Only has cocoa solids, cocoa fat, sugar and milk solids. No additives beyond that.

It also comes in fancy variations beside plain - with fillings etc.

rfusca

we have lindt in the supermarkets here

its decent

Sobachatina

Expensive but 5lbs is a lot of chocolate.

rfusca

its a lot but if you're making a lot out of chocolate its not that much

a bag of chocolate chips for a batch of cookies is 12 oz

Sobachatina

7:46 PM

Good point.

rumtscho

And fourth is the conditor chocolate, like Valrhona. The manufacturer sells it in 20 kg bags only, and also carries pure cocoa butter etc. Conditors use it to make handmade chocolate ware and sell it to customers locally.

rfusca

@Sobachatina ya, for a home baker, 5 lbs is monstrous. If you're selling chocolate stuff, thats a drop in the bucket

Taste Five

so I have to ask, since it is semi related to chocolate. does anyone like mole sauce

rfusca

i've had one mole sauce that I liked - it was in a class I took a few years ago

i've never had it out that I enjoyed

nor have I attempted to make it

rumtscho

@sobachatina, what is in your opinion the correct comparison of common American chocolate to said European classes, and what is the actual comparison being made?

Sobachatina

7:50 PM

I had it once and enjoyed it. I enjoyed it because it was an interesting and unique flavor to me. I don't think I would just eat it for fun.

Good heavens @rumtscho. I don't know American manufacturers nearly well enough to be able to compare them at that level.

rumtscho

I am just skimming the mole sauce article on Wikipedia (never heard of it before), how is it related to chocolate?

rfusca

looks like scharffen berger and valrhona are pretty often compared, they seem to be in the same 'class'

Taste Five

It contains chocolate

Sobachatina

My comment above is not that European chocolate isn't good but that there are good American chocolates that people ignore.

rfusca

@TasteFive not all do, but most American's, if they're familiar with mole sauce, with of it as having mexican chocolate in it. But it doesn't have to by definition

Sobachatina

7:52 PM

Kind of like how Mercedes is a luxury car here and in Germany even the dump trucks are made by Mercedes.

rumtscho

@rfusca But you can't get Valrhona bars at the supermarket here. Or is Scharffenberger also sold to bakers only?

Taste Five

@rfusca I have never had one without it.

rfusca

@rumtscho its not sold in markets around here, but I think you can get it easier out west. You can definitely just order some as an average joe though

looks like some normal'ish markets carry it

scharffenberger.com/productlocator.asp

wegmans, publix, whole foods,albertson - those are national chains

rumtscho

@Sobachatina I'd like to try high grade American chocolate some day. But until then, do you think that comparing a Hershey's to a regular European chocolate bar for 1.20 € per 100 g is unfair, or is it that the frame you had in mind?

Taste Five

@rfusca I guess it is because I have only had it on turkey with Mole sauce. What I had come to know as the national dish of Mexico. It would have always included chocolate. So i never new there was any other preparation. I hear Mole, I think chocolate sauce

Sobachatina

7:57 PM

I don't think Hershey's compares unfavorably but it is a style and flavor that Americans are very accustomed to so it seems boring. This is just my opinion of course. I try to pay attention to what I like but I don't spend a lot of money comparing chocolate.

I agree @TasteFive. I thought mole meant cocoa was in it.

Taste Five

@Sobachatina it would be a very expensive task indeed to do an in-depth chocolate comparison.

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