Coding Projects and Duga Heaven :)

Greger

12:01 AM

REFRESH!

Duga

RELOAD!

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[Minesweeper] Games Played: 157, Bombs Used: 117, Moves Performed: 21283, New Users: 13

Feeds

2:44 AM

As if these problems weren't NP-hard enough.

Vogel612

11:10 AM

Episode for today recorded and uploading :)

Simon Forsberg

11:37 AM

@Vogel612 Is this what you do during the days?

Vogel612

11:48 AM

among other things :D

Marc-Andre

1:35 PM

hey everyone! Have a nice day!

Greger

5:01 PM

Has @Simon posted his weekly update?

Simon Forsberg

5:16 PM

@Vogel612 Do you have a paper+pen TODO-list?

Vogel612

ye

I get to do that on paper and pen, because my list is that much shorter :)

Simon Forsberg

5:44 PM

@Duga @Greger Week 1803: Running, nope. Work to do with the association the next months, quite a bit. Surprises, of various kinds. Pull requests handled, not as many as I would have liked. Factorio played, enough for 4 episodes or so.

Simon Forsberg

6:01 PM

@Vogel612 I forgot to mention: Your video was cut at the bottom again

Vogel612

argh...

I see I need to check that every damn time now

skiwi

hey

Simon Forsberg

@skiwi I'm surprised every time you are able to find this tab

Vogel612

@SimonForsberg it's all just this tab over and over and over ;)

Simon Forsberg

Or maybe you open a new tab every time. That would explain a ~~thing~~ tab or ~~two~~ three hundred

Vogel612

6:46 PM

@SimonForsberg I just looked into fish farming... that's only available after at least three more researches (advanced electronics, advanced water treatment, fish refugium) all of them are just red and green tho

the mod which has blasting charges is called "Explosive Excavation" by the way

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 Yes, I am aware. But it's just researches. No actual things from them needed.

Vogel612

right :)

I just am not gonna get to those researches quickly.

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 Hmm... is that included as a requirement of the Seablock modpack? Or how did you/we get that mod?

Vogel612

'cause lead sheet coils, solder coils and other things are more pressing

@SimonForsberg I figure it's in the seablock modpack, yes

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 Hate to break it to you, but nothing is done "quickly" in Seablock :)

Vogel612

6:49 PM

lol

Simon Forsberg

If you have enough slurry for it, you might want to add an extra column of crystallizers. Maybe especially of the things you are lacking

Vogel612

interestingly alien farming (which is required for duplicating the gardens) doesn't need plant research

but for every cycle of gardens you do, you only get 2 of these alien plant life samples

~yikes

@SimonForsberg the limiting factor is the sludge, currently

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 Well... it does require mushredtato, doesn't it? Unless you use the fish side-products to get alien spores, but that requires a bunch of other things which you're probably gonna hate even more.

Vogel612

@SimonForsberg sodium carbonate and hydrochloric acid, which is ... almost trivial

and it has the nice effect of yielding some sulfuric waste water as well :)

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 Yup, I know. It's slow as hell at start. Which is why you're gonna want to have a whole bunch of those seed extractors as each process takes 300 seconds or so

@Vogel612 huh, okay

Vogel612

6:52 PM

so the fish sideproduct is pretty powerful actually

Simon Forsberg

for some values of "trivial"?

@Vogel612 you're welcome

Vogel612

and the artificial fishwater is also cheap and easy. It's literally just water and saline water (which is just water)

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 yup

Vogel612

the annoying part is getting some nutrient pulp for the fishes

so that's where you need at least some farming research

Simon Forsberg

I also looked into what you needed for Puffing, and I realized that you are a loooong way away from that.

Vogel612

6:55 PM

yea, I basically need all the farming researches done before I can even think about puffing

Simon Forsberg

And blue science as well, in order to do some breeding, IIRC

@Vogel612 Ah, didn't know that you couldn't get nutrient pulp without farming research

Vogel612

there is a reciepe using fish pulp, but that gets you a lot of fish oil.

Simon Forsberg

Not optimal then

Vogel612

to handle the fish oil you need thermal water, which is a pain (and only really viable once you get the advanced reciepe that uses steam)

Simon Forsberg

But farming research is quite handy anyway ^^

Vogel612

6:58 PM

that's for sure

Simon Forsberg

in the old server, I think we went for farming research before military science

Vogel612

I was just looking at which farming research gives me nutrient pulp, and the answer is: all of them

@SimonForsberg nope

we had military research running before proper farming research

Simon Forsberg

Define "proper"

Vogel612

and most of the farming research we got from just sacrificing gardens

@SimonForsberg automated

and a lot of those we only got after you had rockets (which requires military science)

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 Yes, for the first farming research we definitely sacrificed gardens. That's the only way to get farming research unless you have garden-growing setup already. I didn't know about the fish version of garden-growing back then

I think we setup some garden growing using mushredtato before we had the rockets

Vogel612

7:01 PM

ohh, that's quite possible

Simon Forsberg

I think we had some semi-automated version of farming science before we had military science

And semi-automated farming research is quite easy to fix. You could probably set it up in half an episode.

Vogel612

The military science was tacked onto the huge smelting bus thingy

Simon Forsberg

Yup

Vogel612

The farming science was one way to get rid of paper, IINM

Simon Forsberg

Yeah that's probably possible

Vogel612

7:04 PM

I think I moved the military science at some point and just removed the farming science because we didn't need any when it would've been time to move it :D

Simon Forsberg

We moved the farming science a bit south-east I think... close to some train stations

Vogel612

yea, it was right next to that insane resin and rubber production that was squashed along the bottom of the initial block

just a bit off from the location of the second electrolyzer setup and next to the southwestern edge of the road network for transport drones in the initial block

so much spaghetti

Simon Forsberg

yup

Vogel612

speaking of spaghetti: ~fires up pyblock

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 Attaboy!

Vogel612

7:17 PM

@SimonForsberg you did get a chance to look at the overview I posted?

skiwi

7:28 PM

@SimonForsberg It's pinned!

> 3491 tabs

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 Which overview?

Vogel612

the image you requested

Simon Forsberg

Ah, yes

I looked at it briefly but not a lot

Vogel612

just making sure you saw :)

Simon Forsberg

a bit hard to see the recipe icons when roboport coverage is also shown

Vogel612

7:29 PM

yea, I noticed as well

Simon Forsberg

a new image with recipe icons but without roboport coverage could be good

Vogel612

coming right up :D

Simon Forsberg

wtf, you're researching something that I haven't even researched yet...

"TODO? Better titanium" - ha! Good luck with that!

Duga

[Zomis/Games/main] build 34 Build success.

Simon Forsberg

I see you also have a bit of a spaghetti-land

Vogel612

7:35 PM

yea, I wanted those for ... milk, I think

Greger

[Zomis/Games] build for commit 48e3d54f on main: This commit looks good

Vogel612

yea, but it's a lot smaller than yours :D

recall that my blocks are significantly smaller than yours

Simon Forsberg

oh, you're doing 5x5 ?

Vogel612

yea, 5x5 internal

and I need the tuuphras research for the better genetics research for navens, which gives insane amounts of raw coal (to replace fawogae)

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 I'm starting to think that maybe I should just have rebuilt all the old shit somewhere else...

@Vogel612 and you consider coal a problem?

Vogel612

7:39 PM

@SimonForsberg well, that's kind of what you're doing now

@SimonForsberg it's my current ... gripe, yes

but it's not going to be for long

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 I mean.... rebuilt from scratch far away, and then remove the old stuff afterwards

like, starting a new city block for glass, red science, circuit boards, green science

@Vogel612 What are you using coal for?

Vogel612

@SimonForsberg mostly fueling trains and my ever-growing ash and coke addiction

so basically for distillationc column-based stuff

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 and what are you using ash and coke for?

Also, it sounds like an ineffective way to get ash. And coke too, actually. The coke processing recipes are far superior

Vogel612

ash for coaldust & iron oxide, coke for steel and circuits

yea, that's why it's not gonna be a problem for much longer :D

ash will be used for farming things as soon as I get a steady supply of manure

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 Ash for coal dust and iron oxide? Aren't there... a bunch of other ways to get that?

@Vogel612 Farming what things?

Vogel612

7:44 PM

it's basically free energy, tbf

Simon Forsberg

How so?

Vogel612

ash separation is a cheap reciepe, flue gas to ash doesn't need any resources, you get coal dust out of it, which is a nice amount of energy to use

Simon Forsberg

8:03 PM

@Vogel612 that requires 100 ash though, that's a lot

Vogel612

ya, it's really just to make sure everything is used in some way :D

Simon Forsberg

hahaha

yeah sure, 5000 flue gas for 2 coal dust....

Vogel612

what else are you gonna use it for?

phytoplankton?

Greger

8:15 PM

[Zomis/Games] renovate-bot pushed commit 65f5a3cb to renovate/aws-java-sdk-monorepo: Update dependency com.amazonaws:aws-java-sdk-dynamodb to v1.11.1000

[Zomis/Games] renovate[bot] synchronized pull request #199: Update dependency com.amazonaws:aws-java-sdk-dynamodb to v1.11.1000

[Zomis/Games] renovate[bot] edited pull request #199: Update dependency com.amazonaws:aws-java-sdk-dynamodb to v1.11.1000

Duga

[Zomis/Games/PR-199] build 8 Build success.

Greger

[Zomis/Games] build for commit 65f5a3cb on renovate/aws-java-sdk-monorepo: This commit looks good

Vogel612

I should make syngas from that coal dust...

Simon Forsberg

8:34 PM

@Vogel612 For me the problem isn't so much that I have no usages for it, I would love to use more flue gas for coal dust. Although a lot of it goes to phytoplankton as well. For me the problem is more that I don't have time to work on everything xD

Vogel612

yea, I get why

I now finally started providing urea to the circuit production via LTN

Simon Forsberg

8:47 PM

Nice

My urea production is still not doing too well :(

because I need more manure because I need more auog food

Vogel612

well, that's what's gonna be my next problem, I think :D

after all I'm currently not running all my stuff all the time

I have a cache of manure to make urea from, but...

Feeds

9:43 PM

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Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 I need more auog food because I need more starch, because I should start again and make starch from ralesia seeds, and I need more ralesia seeds because I need more manure. And so the circle is complete.

Vogel612

~mumble ulrics mumble ash mumble fertilizer mumble ;)

I'm out of manure, by the by...

it just evaporated into the urea inside the warehouses of the LTN

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 Fertilizer?

Vogel612

incredibly useful for producing methane and ralesias

IvenBach

Knowing enough to work with git makes checking the pre-change state of a file a lot easier.

@Vogel612 TYVM again for your patience in helping me to learn git.

Simon Forsberg

9:59 PM

@Vogel612 Ah, yes. But Fertilizer needs manure, right? :/

Vogel612

correct :/

well, the better reciepes are really nice

and the reciepes that use fertilizer don't use all that much of it

Simon Forsberg

true

I have some production of it, just not much usage yet

maybe I can combine fertilizer into the ralesia->manure loop

Vogel612

@IvenBach you are very welcome :)

Simon Forsberg

@Vogel612 Wait... How are you using Fertilizer for Ralesias?

Vogel612

not at all, yet?

hmm ... interesting... there is a reciepe in FNEI that uses 4 fertilizer for 20 fawogae... Seems like that's also a leftover

Simon Forsberg

10:05 PM

@Vogel612 The ralesias recipes I see with Fertilizer are waaaaaaaaaaay off in the future. Behind more science packs.

Vogel612

hmm ...

Simon Forsberg

I would use Fertilizer for Guar though, that seems like a good one

Vogel612

the log reciepe with fertilizer is also insane

Simon Forsberg

Yup

@SᴀᴍOnᴇᴌᴀ If it's not too many problems for you and if you are willing to provide the service, may I ask that you add games.zomis.net to your checker?

I had a weird problem with it returning 502 earlier today

Sᴀᴍ Onᴇᴌᴀ

10:31 PM

@SimonForsberg okay- any certain path/route? e.g. games.zomis.net/#/login ? or just games.zomis.net ?

Vogel612

welp...

so I finally have a single classifier running on sifting rich dust for titanium ore...

it just needed five classifiers sifting through sand for rich dust...

Simon Forsberg

@SᴀᴍOnᴇᴌᴀ Just the root path is good enough.

@Vogel612 Sand -> Rich dust is slooooooow... and requires lots of sand. Using the iron sticks and sand extractors are far more effective. Just needs some Niobium which isn't actually that complicated to fix

Night

Vogel612

ye, niobium is on my list

sleep well

it's right after I get a proper sulfuric acid process working

interestingly you can make sulfuric acid from tailings (and get rich dust and coal dust out of it)

it's just not terribly reliable, because evaporating tailings with acid gas as probabilistic sideproduct isn't really a good setup...

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