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12:25 AM
@rumtscho "Some of them will surprise you, but date to be different:"
Did you mean "dare"? Otherwise I don't know what that means.
 
Hello.
 
Hi KitFox. How's things?
 
Good.
You want to read my Russian story?
 
@KitFox Sure! But not right now. :(
 
OK.
 
12:29 AM
How can I find it? I'll read it tomorrow on the train.
@rumtscho- That is a wonderful blog post! I like it a lot.
 
@rumtscho You write "Last post, I wrote a post presenting jams..." This is a bit redundant. I'd suggest "Last post, I wrote about presenting jams..."
I would really like to know in particular what you think, even if you think it is awful.
 
@rumtscho- about artificial sweeteners you wrote "If you can get it to gel". That sounds like you should just take your chances. I think you should just put "If you are using a low-sugar pectin."
@KitFox Awesome! I'll read it and let you know.
 
Thank you. Much appreciated.
 
@KitFox Out of curiosity- what is the motivation for the story?
 
I don't really know. It got stuck in my head and it had to come out.
Do you know what I mean?
It's some kind of an allegory.
 
12:33 AM
Like Athena?
 
Yes, kind of.
Maybe not that smart.
 
Or a stray bullet?
I have it open in a tab, but I get distracted all the time.
Have had it open for hours, haha.
I'm really curious.
 
It's the first thing I've written that I thought I might like to try to get published.
Well, besides academic papers.
But it needs some editing and then maybe I will lose my desire for it.
 
It's the road that counts, hmm?
 
Yeah.
And sorry @rum, I had to give up on the blog before I tried to eat my computer.
@Cerberus And yes, you must have been really curious to have not read it this whole time. It's a mere 2,500 words. ;-P
 
12:44 AM
Your ping is distracting me!
 
waits patiently
 
Aww.
I'm putting on my glasses now, then I will read it with a cup of tea. That will be nice.
 
Oh! Cup of tea! Great idea!
 
 
2 hours later…
2:19 AM
"A man walks into the hotel with an induction burner..."
 
Excuse me?
 
I'm thinking of doing a Shoestring Gourmet special edition, starting off like that
 
How does that work?
 
Well, at the beginning you have nothing but cooking utensils and an induction burner, and at the end you have a gourmet feast?
 
Is an induction burner cheap?
Ah OK.
 
2:31 AM
$50, and portable
 
We use "induction" for expensive stoves.
We call cheap electrical stoves simply "electrical".
 
Yes, generally here too
 
Ah OK.
So do cheap electrical stoves work with magnetic induction?
I don't really know how they work.
 
No, normal electrical stoves use resistance in the coil itself
but induction burners or hotplates are used for portable stuff because they are much less likely to start fires, and more efficeint
 
Ah OK.
So...induction burners are cheap, I had no idea.
 
2:34 AM
Well, most of them aren't but you can find pretty cheap ones
 
So the technology is not particularly expensive.
 
This one was on sale, and I'm seeing them for $60+ on Amazon
 
OK.
 
Yes, I think it is just the installation and durability for a permanent stovetop that is costly
 
Hmm.
So you have the burner and the utensils, but what food will you use?
 
2:35 AM
Local grocery store.
I'm travelling to a neighboring state for work, and they're paying for the hotel, expenses, and a daily food stipend
I was planning to cook out of the stipend and see what can come up...
 
Ah OK.
So what utensils will you use?
 
That's what I'm trying to decide
The hotel actually has some basic stuff, since it comes with a kitchenette
 
Oh!
 
I'm thinking knives, sharpener, tongs, whisk, pot and frying pan, spatula... hrhm
 
A kitchenette? Is that normal?
 
2:41 AM
Nope, but the company was feeling unusually generous in this cae
*case
 
Interesting.
They could have just paid for your dinner at the hotel instead.
 
I think enough of the senior staff travel regularly and long-term that they like it to be in relative comfort
 
Cool.
They must like you...
 
@Cerberus It's standard for all their travel arrangements... but it's unusual for them to be so generous when they're normally rather stingy
What should I cook?
 
Ehh...
 
2:45 AM
I'm thinking eggs benedict are kind of a gimme (and cheap!)
 
Something that is quick and easy, or something that you think is fun for a blog post?
Bacon pancakes are quick, easy, and delicious.
With treacle or syrup or whatever you call it.
 
Fun for a blog post is sort of what I aim for
Quick and easy doesn't worry mme
 
So something impossibly complicated that nobody would expect you to make in an hotel?
 
Yes, something like that
 
OK.
 
2:48 AM
Or something where there's room to do something normally complex with very minimal stuff by application of brain sweat
Oh, and application of kick-butt knife skills.
 
Haha.
I see.
 
No word on if there's a working oven or not...
@Cerberus Any ideas?
 
I...don't know.
Simplicity appeals to me more in general. So I am not really into complicated techniques.
Unless they result in something extremely delicious that you cannot get in any other way.
You could call the hotel to ask whether they have an oven.
 
I could, but I wasn't planning on doing any real baking
it's just too big a pain to do without the right utensils and bakeware and ingredients
@rumtscho Damn, those are some professional-looking blog photos
 
3:07 AM
Yeah, makes sense.
How about something Asian?
You usually don't need special equipment, but you do need lots of exotic spices and herbs.
Or so it appears to me.
Or you could make sushi.
 
I've never done dumplings before from scratch...
 
You only need a sushi mat (one of those bamboo things to roll up the rolls).
 
Gotta find out if there's an Asian market near the hotel though
 
You don't need to make dumplings.
 
I think I do.
Because they're pure tasty.
 
3:11 AM
You could bring some seaweed and spices with you.
Oh.
Then you do.
 
@Cerberus Tell me this does not look easy and tasty: tinyurbankitchen.com/2012/01/…
However, sushi would also be fun
 
Fried they look good. Boiled, sorry, that is not my cup of tea. As to the taste, I have no idea.
 
Oh, pan-fried every time
with a dumpling sauce of mixed soy sauce, sesame oil, and rice wine vinegar
 
OK.
And what's in the filling?
 
Pork, napa cabbage, and Chinese chives, in equal parts
If I'd known it was that simple, I'd make dumplings daily
 
3:22 AM
Pork? In what form?
And what spices?
 
Ingredients
1 head Napa cabbage (about 1.5 lbs)
4 bunches of Chinese chives
16 oz firm tofu
4 lbs ground pork
2 tsp salt
tsp pepper (white or black)
4 cloves fresh garlic, minced
1 tsp fresh ginger root, finely grated
2/3 cup soy sauce 4 eggs, beaten
1 T sesame oil
2 T Shaoxing rice wine
4-5 T corn starch
Commercially available dumpling wrappers (enough to make ~250 dumplings) or homemade dumpling wrappers (see bottom of post)
a small cup of water for wetting the wrapper
I think I shall bring small baggies of corn starch, salt, pepper, garlic, thyme, etc
 
Good idea.
@BobMcGee This could be good.
I have never eaten good Chinese dumplings.
 
The entire recipe and procedure is in that link
 
I can't tell what it will taste like exactly.
But I will trust your judgement.
Meanwhile, it's bed time.
Adieu!
 
Night, Cerbie
 
3:32 AM
Bya!
 
 
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3:49 PM
To anyone interested, Writers chat starts in ten minutes in The Overlook:

 The Overlook Hotel

General discussion for writing.stackexchange.com. Writing exer...
 
@KitFox my wife has tried to write a book like a dozen times
@KitFox how technical does the SE writing crowd tend to be?
 
Not at all. The chat is all hobbyists.
And people who just like to read the stuff other people are writing.
 
@KitFox well, i'll sit in the room and browse :)
 
@rumtscho Looking at the blog post now...
 
4:19 PM
SUP COOKING
hey @rfusca @rumtscho I have a question for your professional minds.
 
@Aarthi sup?
 
i want to use up my remaining milk and eggs before i go on vacation
so i'm thinking about making cookie dough for the office!
but eating raw eggs is potentially dangerous
should i sub in yogurt for eggs, for texture?
or flax?
or just use eggs?
 
lol, can't you just make cookies?
 
hmm, are they eating the cookie dough raw instead of baking it?
you could pasteurize the eggs, if you have the setup to do that (you need to hold them at a lowish temperature for an hour or so, I could look up the details)
 
as far as just making faux cookie dough, the only thing the eggs add when their not baked is probably the richness
 
4:23 PM
yeah, maybe a little bit of yellow color
 
@rfusca yeah just raw cookie dough; i don't have a baking sheet or parchment paper or a silpat!
@rfusca oh! so if it's just richness, pssh, yogurt or more milk it is.
 
or butter!
 
ooo butter
 
ya, I'd do some extra button or full fat yogurt or such
 
sweet. I have my HOMEMADE YOGURT i can use :P
 
4:24 PM
niiiiice
 
i'm thinking 1/2 cup for each egg?
 
just let them know that you left out the eggs, so it won't bake well.
no idea on the amount, I'd just go by the texture you want to achieve, and taste it some as your mixing it and adjust
 
:D
@derobert so what you're saying is, half my cookie dough will be eaten by yours truly
 
there are rewards to being the cook :-P
 
:P
i guess I'll just hardboil my remaining eggs.
and make more pancakes
which by the way you guys
i discovered that a TINY bit of oil around the edges when making pancakes? MEANS I NEVER BURN THEM.
\o/
 
4:27 PM
not sure what you mean. But clearly you should change "oil" to "butter" :-P
 
i LOVE pancakes
 
@derobert I dribbled a touch of canola oil around the edges of my pancakes last night; the edges got crisp without the center burning, and flipping was 4x easier.
@rfusca pancakes are the best
i used to make 'em without eggs; they just end up denser. flatter, not as fluffly, still really filling
 
@Aarthi hmm, never tried that. I guess you're sort of frying the edges.
 
@Aarthi my dad did that growing up
 
@rfusca i pretended i was making dosa. best idea ever.
 
4:28 PM
the edges come out fried with an outline around the pancake...its freaking amazing
 
i should make dosa for the office.
i'd need a blender, though.
 
I have made pancakes with a fair bit of butter in the pan, winding up with them shallow-fried in butter. Mmmmmm, tasty
 
if you want to make them easier to turn without doing that, just cover them after you pour the batter
 
@derobert :o butter, so much calories
@rfusca :D
 
Butter has no more calories than canola oil. Less, actually, as its ~10–20% water.
 
4:30 PM
huh.
oh it's rapeseed oil.
hmm. could i ask on the main site about the differences in preparing sour cream vs yogurt?
 
@Aarthi butter is 717kcal/100g, canola oil is 884kcal/100g
 
:O
 
@Aarthi all canola is rapeseed...they changed the same to sell more
 
@Aarthi sure, as long as its a focused enough question, that's on-topic
 
@waxeagle huh.
 
@Aarthi yeah, apparently people didn't want to buy something called "rapeseed"
 
@waxeagle can't imagine why.
(brb lunchtime!)
 
@derobert I just got back from a meeting
I don't see you saying anything special about the blog post, which I take as a good sign - or is there a big document full of red crossing-outs awaiting me?
 
nah, only minor things
I found a typo :-P
 
Phew.
I would be amazed if there is only one typo.
 
4:41 PM
They might be there, but I think I'm being distracted by the photos
 
The spell checker in my browser is somehow always set to the wrong language, no matter what I am writing in. So I don't pay attention to it, because everything I write is red-underlined.
@derobert Not good. I didn't write all that text for people to just take a look at the pictures and forget the rest.
 
Firefox's works fine here. Right-click the field to set the language. Or just install "Its All Text" and then edit in e.g., gvim
 
Yes, I know I can set the language on a per-field-basis, I just forget to do so, because it is too much work to do it for every field I encounter, and I don't think of it when there is a field I care about.
 
LOL
Advantages of being monolingual! :-P
 
You haven't even started grasping those. Just wait until your password doesn't work, because you have ацциденталлъ свитчед ъоур keyboard layout to Cyrillic.
 
4:48 PM
I think i'm addicted to pistachios
 
@rfusca I've gotten back on sun flower seeds lately
 
@waxeagle I just wanted to say that pistachios are at least nobler than sunflower seeds :P
 
@rumtscho no doubt. I love pistachios, but their too darned expensive form e most of the time
 
@waxeagle Sure, they are too expensive for me too.
 
the dollar store has em
 
4:50 PM
@rfusca actually, what about your eating habits? Are there any changes 6 months after the fast?
 
a buck for a bag
@rumtscho generally, I eat much, much healthier and I eat (and enjoy) a few dozen veggies that I wouldn't touch before it
 
@rfusca sounds great. But I find it a bit strange about the vegetables, maybe because I grew up loving them. Which ones are the most remarkable change? As in, are there some you used to find not just "meh" but outright terrible, but like now?
 
@rumtscho (about the blog post) The biggest thing I've found so far, is I'm tempted to strike most of the stuff complaining about artificial sweeteners.
 
@rumtscho spinach is the biggest change. I hated it but love it now
@rumtscho i was a tremendously picky eater, especially growing up
 
@derobert "most"? It is one sentence only. But I wanted to make it sure that I mean "get more taste through sweeteners", not "use NutraSweet", because the title is ambiguous. Do you have an idea how to make that clear without it sounding like a complaint?
 
4:55 PM
working on it
 
@rfusca Me too. I was very picky, and my mother was a bad cook, so she despaired of me. But I loved the raw vegetables from my grandma's garden, that's where I learned to love veggie flavors. And now that I can cook them properly, I like them cooked too.
Spinach doesn't surprise me, it is very succeptible to bad cooking.
 
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@rumtscho growing up, it was always from a can and just boiled on the stovetop
 
"(Artificial sweeteners should work if you use LM pectin, but this post is about getting maximum flavor, not minimum calories)"
maybe something like that.
 
but I really like fresh, raw spinach
 
@derobert Sounds good.
 
4:58 PM
Also, what does everyone think of changing "You can employ almost any non-artificial sweetener for jam making." to "You can employ almost any natural sweetener for jam making."
 
@rfusca It is mostly unavailable here. But I have started eating pure frozen spinach (noth the creamed spinach stuff) just thawed, without cooking. It is like freeze-blanching, makes it soft without changing the taste.
 
That's immediately before the sentence about artificial sweeteners
 
@derobert Sounds OK to me.
 
@rumtscho that stinks. its available everywhere here
 
@rfusca I don't mind it, the frozen spinach is good. I only miss it when I want to wrap something in it.
What I miss here is sorrell. We foraged for it when I was a child. I like its sour taste, it is different from other leafy greens.
 
5:07 PM
@rumtscho never had sorrell
 
@rfusca It's high in oxalic acid, so a bit rhubarb-like in taste. But it is eaten as leaves, not stalks, and never in sweet applications.
 
@rumtscho what language is 'rachel' ?
I can't find it in my English dictionaries.
(other than the name Rachel of course)
 
@derobert Bulgarian. And I don't know of any other cuisine which makes this type of preserve.
 
I'm going to set it in italic, on the assumption you've borrowed the term
Ok
@rumtscho OK, cooking.blogoverflow.com/wp-admin/… ... I think that's the changes I did.
cooking.blogoverflow.com/… if anyone else wants to provide feedback
 
5:28 PM
@derobert Thank you, looks all good to me.
 
its scheduled for tomorrow at noon UTC
@BobMcGee You're next, I believe :-P
 
@derobert I thought that there should be spaces around em dashes, but this could be a language-specific thing, like using " for speech.
@derobert my next post will contain rose petal jam, jam cooked with nuts in it, and vegetable jam - I want to try Lebowitz's beer-shallot.
 
Hmm, it depends on who you ask. General rule is "as long as you're consistent, either before and after or none at all", but I find the problem with spaces around them is that you have to be real careful with the non-breaking spaces to prevent terrible line breaks
e.g., sometimes the browser will happily take a line break:
"this is some text
— hey look, em-dash
at the start of a line"
 
I am flying on vacation on Thursday, will stay with my parents and grandparents, so will have Internet and probably come online. But from 20th to the 27th will be in the mountain (Will finally do the Koncheto ridge in Pirin, yay!) and not online.
@derobert funny, in Bulgarian an em-dash at the start of the line is speech.
So it doesn't offend my aesthetics at all, although it might confuse me slightly.
 
I've seen that in English too, but the point is, you don't want it for your "interruption" meaning of em-dash
Of course, browsers often don't know they can take the line break after an em-dash, if you don't have a space there, so the no-space style causes browsers issues too (but only really a problem if you want full-justify in a narrow column)
Mainly, its a case of browsers suck at typography :-P
 
5:35 PM
@derobert I don't know when I will be able to make my next jam post. Probably not as soon as I am back, as I need some time to cook the jams and take the pictures. I fly back on the 8th (a Saturday), will probably have to cook on the 15th-16th and publish on the 19th september. The rotation will probably suffer a bit, but I think there will be enough material.
 
Ok. We'll have to make sure the schedule is sane. I need to do something ASAP, or I'm going to miss my post :-(
 
That stripes idea still sounds good to me, no matter if as a flag or something else.
And/or the "push prefrozen ice creams from a tray into a big casserole of newly-churned ice cream of different color". If you don't have a novelty-shaped ice tray, you could freeze some discs on the bottom of silicone muffin molds.
 
I wonder what to make out of stripes if not a flag. But I still want to try that sometime, so I might do that.
I just need to get on it!
 
A sock?
 
An ice cream sock?
But, how'd you make a puppet out of that?
 
5:41 PM
 
Hmmm, that doesn't look like a puppet. Seems to have a leg inserted into the sock, not a hand.
 
I would just leave it as a striped rectangle. I bet that it will produce very beautiful portions when you scoop across the stripes at a slight bias.
 
I could do that. That's just one step away from the flag (the one step being cut out a rectangle, and fill with blue)
 
It also saves you from the trouble of making blue ice cream. You can do pink cherry ice cream and yellow banana ice cream, for example.
 
Well, the red I was using before is raspberry sherbet... which should go with the vanilla
Of course, if its red and white, it'll look sort of like a candy cane :-P
So maybe mint ice cream is called for. But I don't think that'd go with raspberry. Or any other natural red or pink
 
5:47 PM
Or use green kiwi-mint sorbet somewhere, it looks unusual for ice cream, so a Blickfänger. (Look-catcher?) Use a few drops of mint liqueur for softness and color.
Kiwi-mint goes with strawberry. Actually also with cherry.
 
Never had kiwi-mint before. Interesting.
 
It came in the booklet of my ice cream machine, I tried it and liked it.
 
I'm not sure the rest of the family cares for kiwi, actually. But raspberry and vanilla are safe. And the blueberry ice cream was a hit, so I know that's safe.
But yeah, the main thing is to get the stripes working.
 
Make whatever taste you like best, without a "flag" goal, there are no constraints on the colors, other than sufficient contrast.
 
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