The DMZ

1:36 AM

@MargaretBloom Ah. So it's stored in memory reserved for the BIOS (well, for ACPI), and copy_dsdt just copies it to somewhere else as well? Neat. I might need to hook up a logic analyzer to the firmware and see if anything I do at runtime can cause the OS to re-read it. — forest Mar 22 at 10:28

I need to get to doing this. :/

John Zhau

4:10 AM

I found an IPMI service and dumped a hash with scanner/ipmi/ipmi_dumphashes. Is there anything the blue team can do about it besides disabling IPMI or using strong passwords?

Anonymous

8:43 AM

I can't cope with the world anymore.

Anonymous

How does everyone not see the pure ridiculousness of this statement: "Jerusalem police used CS gas to get people out of the mosque and Palestinian youths threw rocks at them"

Anonymous

It's fucking baffling,

Anonymous

"The scale of rocket fire launched from Gaza into Israel suggests Hamas' military capabilities are growing"

Anonymous

Just, lol.

Anonymous

The way the UK reports this makes me absolutely fucking sick.

Journeyman Geek

9:05 AM

@Jis12yearsold. Well they did launch a 120 over rockets into israel

Anonymous

Of which roughly 90% were blocked.

Journeyman Geek

Cause they've been doing it for years and the isrealis got lots of practice

Anonymous

To suggest that their rockets A. ever cause as much damage B. have the potential to cause as much as damage is absolutely absurd.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. uh. That's cause they're getting intercepted, cause... they keep doing this

every few years

Anonymous

So what you'

Journeyman Geek

9:07 AM

They have lots of potential to do damage

Anonymous

Let me get this straight,.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. I donno, spend all the money they blow on rockets smarter?

Anonymous

okay...

Anonymous

IM not gonan bother

Anonymous

because im gonna make myself mad

Anonymous

9:07 AM

thats an absolutely reprehensible view to hold

Anonymous

but whatever

Anonymous

CS gas vs rocks

Anonymous

Good one

Journeyman Geek

They probably could have bought the whole neighbourhood that caused this shit for the money they spend on weapons. But nooo, they'll sit in civilian neighbourhood, launch missiles, and use the poor civilians who get killed when they retaliate

@Jis12yearsold. and fireworks, and there's been more serious things.

Anonymous

I am absolutely not defending all of their actions.

Journeyman Geek

9:09 AM

And I'm sure if they throw enough rocks, Palestine will be free

Anonymous

But to suggest they have the ability to cause any significant damage against Israel is ABSURD.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. there also have been...

Anonymous

They are merely the occupier.

Journeyman Geek

suicide bombings, gun attacks, kidnappings...

Anonymous

And Israel has taken their land for years and they continue to advance and take more.

Anonymous

9:09 AM

Evict people out of their homes.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. There was this little war... and....

isrealis took a big chunk of Egypt. Then gave it back

Anonymous

Oh right so thats fine then

Journeyman Geek

So uh

Anonymous

"INVADE SOMEONE AS LONG AS YOU GIVE IT BACK"

Anonymous

yeah...

Journeyman Geek

9:10 AM

@Jis12yearsold. Oh, the Egyptians started it

Anonymous

tell that to the people without a fucking home

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. So - maybe, just maybe...

they could use the funds they use to fire rockets and kill people...

to get these people their homes back?

Anonymous

i cant be bothered, we're always going to be on different sides of this. israel has 400000x the resources that the Palestinians have

Anonymous

to suggest its a fair fight is ridiculous

Anonymous

lmfao

Journeyman Geek

9:11 AM

I'm not saying the israelis are farting rainbows or anything

I'm saying the Palestinians are being used as proxies and patsies, and their 'own side' isn't interested in freedom or peace.

Anonymous

No, but you seem to be suggesting that it's absolutely okay for them to take people out of their homes, kill children as long as they give the land back after.

Journeyman Geek

And its always common folks who suffer

Anonymous

Well, that's something we can agree on.

Anonymous

Doesn't make it right though, does it.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. uh. I'm saying "giving back their homes' isn't something that's impossible

Anonymous

9:12 AM

Oh it is.

Anonymous

They won't give back those homes.

Journeyman Geek

But the constant escalation makes it so

Anonymous

Israel have never had any interest in having Palestinians in their community unless they call themselves citizens of Israel.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. and... how many rocks makes giving it back possible? How many missiles?

Anonymous

Wipe out your identity and there's peace.

Anonymous

9:13 AM

Which is absolutely abhorrent.

Anonymous

And even then, there's restrictions on Palestinians in Israel continuously.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. Identities arn't that weak. Also - there was an attempt to set up an independant palestinian state... uh....

@Jis12yearsold. If its another country...

I mean, you want it to be its own country and not have borders?

Cause I'd really like a functional palestinian state, and them to have their land back and... people not firing rockets at each other.

Anonymous

What I think is that the people of Palestine want to be able to call themselves Palestinians and not be fucking looked down upon for not wiping out their entire identity else they cannot integrate Or having restrictions placed on them.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. uh, also, weren't they part of jordan before the war?

@Jis12yearsold - which means having their own country no?

Or yanno "Palestinian <country> or Arab <country>"

My dad's a ceylon tamil who left before the war - he's also singaporean.

The problem here is somehow identity here means the other country not existing

Anonymous

Well, that's precisely what the Israeli's want, lmfao.

Anonymous

9:18 AM

It's not their country, but they want it.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. uh....

You do realise a lot of the countries who support Hamas and other organisations there...

want israel to be wiped off the map right?

Anonymous

And is that not fair given that Israel wants Palestine wiped off the map?

Journeyman Geek

Yeah so...

Anonymous

That argument is like saying: "its bad the jews want germany wiped off the map" all meanwhile Hitler was wiping Jews off the map.

Anonymous

I would also want something wiped off the map if they were oppressing me.

Anonymous

9:20 AM

...

Journeyman Geek

Arab–Israeli conflict

The Arab–Israeli conflict includes the political tension, military conflicts and disputes between Arab countries and Israel, which escalated during the 20th century, but had mostly faded out in the early 21st century. The roots of the Arab–Israeli conflict have been attributed to the support by Arab League member countries for the Palestinians, a fellow League member, in the ongoing Israeli–Palestinian conflict, which in turn has been attributed to the simultaneous rise of Zionism and Arab nationalism towards the end of the 19th century, though the two national movements had not clashed until the...

I mean, the conflict started right after the brits left

Anonymous

Well, we definitely shouldn't move back in. I know who's side my government are on.

Anonymous

It certainly isn't Palestine's. If they're willing to sell fighter jets to UAE to be used in Yemen then they're for sure willing to supply bombs to Israel.

Journeyman Geek

Oh, don't get me started on the brits and their 'cartagraphy'

@Jis12yearsold. uh...

The israelis don't really need british weapons

Anonymous

No of course not, they got the US' in plenty of supply.

Journeyman Geek

9:30 AM

They build their own

Anonymous

But you know, can never have too much firepower against rocks right?

Anonymous

Gotta stock up!

Anonymous

Someone might throw a bigger rock than usual.

Anonymous

That would be a disaster. Might need an entire tank to combat it!

Journeyman Geek

Right. I'm sure there's no missiles being fired over the past week

Anonymous

9:32 AM

Oh, I know they're firing missiles. But as I said, less than 90% of them even strike and when they do, they have more than often had a minuscule impact.

Anonymous

As opposed to Israel's which land nearly every time and blow up entire buildings very often.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. uh, oh, let me clarify

Hamas is firing unguided missles that are often getting intercepted.

Anonymous

Ah well that's okay then.

Journeyman Geek

The israelis on the other hand, basically are blowing up specific buildings

Cause yanno

Anonymous

You got intercepted? Too bad, now I'm going to blow up an entire building

Anonymous

9:34 AM

Very rational and proportional response...

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. where the missiles are being launched from

Anonymous

Oh theres a kid of a fighter in the street? Yeah, bomb that kid!

Journeyman Geek

or has leadership

Anonymous

His dad is a monster!

Anonymous

Ah and screw the civilians, yeah?

Anonymous

9:34 AM

I'm sure they'll cope. When 80% of the water supply is controlled by Israel.

Journeyman Geek

Actually - there's reports of palestinian kids getting killed by Hamas missiles

Anonymous

They'll be fine on the street though, I'm sure.

Anonymous

You know, Israel will take care of them right?

Journeyman Geek

I'm sure their parents will be proud of their sacrifice for palestinian freedom

Anonymous

Give them back their home they just destroyed?

Journeyman Geek

9:35 AM

@Jis12yearsold. Its the middle east...

what water?

Anonymous

Ah yes. That makes it fine then. Palestine doesn't need water because there isn't any anyways?

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. On the contrary - a lot of water is from desalination

so... uh...

Maybe they could be building plants in their own country instead of missiles?

Anonymous

So Israel can: kill children, bomb buildings, have much more resources than Palestine ever has, and it's all okay as long as they give them back their buildings, which they never have and never will.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. Hamas is doing most of those too

is it ok?

Anonymous

Not until they can capture the land and build their own buildings and move all of the Palestinians out.

Anonymous

9:37 AM

Except they have FAR less power and resources.

Anonymous

It's not at all a fair war.

Anonymous

Lmfao.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. most of which is going towards exports of ordanance, explosively to israel

Anonymous

Well, they brought it on themselves for taking land which never belonged to them in the first place.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. tbh - if it was a 'fair' war - You do realise israel with crap weapons, no manpower and hardly a country wiped the floor with the entire arab world right?

In the middle of a holiday

Its an unfair war, the palestinians are the victims, but its more than "poor palestinians, being oppressed by the israelis"

Anonymous

9:40 AM

Don't worry, I'll get my girlfriend to call her family and say: "oh you know those bombs that just landed near you? Don't worry about it, someone on the internet just said Israel plans to build those houses for you back"

Anonymous

I'm sure that'll ease their pain...

Journeyman Geek

\o/

Anonymous

And ability to sleep...

nobody

10:47 AM

@JourneymanGeek lol. "Israelis are driving us out of our home's but you know, we gotta be nice to them. Because we want peace."

"In fact, we're really sorry that we can't invite them over for a cup of tea because our house just got blown up."

Anonymous

lol

Anonymous

Yeah but they threw rocks at them! @nobody

Anonymous

So a bomb is completely justified and proportional! ;)

nobody

Yeah Rocks!!! And we were just trying to force them out of their mosques

Anonymous

Hahahahahahhaha, yeah.

Anonymous

10:55 AM

Fucking charlatans throwing rocks back at our CS gas!

Anonymous

They made us waste $100 on another can, how dare they!

nobody

Yeah, and what do the spoiled brats think, is it a JOKE to throw rocks at someone? Like someone could potentially have fallen down!!

Anonymous

Hahah.

Anonymous

Yeah what a shame.

Anonymous

Schroeder is currently reading the entire log and deciding whether to ban me :D

nobody

11:08 AM

Damn!

Anonymous

Did I survive?

Anonymous

I did.

Anonymous

HURRAH

Anonymous

11:33 AM

sadge.

Anonymous

i was afk.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. Nothing to see here, move along

Anonymous

There is always something to see.

Anonymous

When someone in authority says "nothing to see" that means there definitely is something to see.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. Ah, but what if that's what they want you to think?

Anonymous

11:42 AM

Hah!

Anonymous

Good point.

Anonymous

It is just far easier to expect the worst in everyone and everything.

Anonymous

If you expect the worst you don't need to spend time thinking about the other possibilities.

Anonymous

:D

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. On the other hand, whatever you're imagining it is, is probably more interesting than the truth.

Anonymous

11:45 AM

Heh.

Anonymous

Probably, yes.

Anonymous

I don't feel like doing anything today.

Anonymous

That's bad. I didn't do anything yesterday either.

Anonymous

ew.

Anonymous

Two days off is just simply unacceptable.

Anonymous

11:51 AM

youtube.com/watch?v=we9jeU76Y9E <- super good song btw

ThoriumBR

12:08 PM

@nobody .
test
test2

nobody

12:57 PM

@ThoriumBR Yeah. I got it to gray out deleted messages, so I was testing that

Now I have one last problem that I don't have a solution to. My internet connection is somewhat patchy, so it might disconnect while I'm away from my computer and the I won't receive the deleted messages

ThoriumBR

rent a VPS? hire a LDDMaaS? (Log Deleted DMZ Messages as a Service)

nobody

I can't afford a better internet connection, and you're telling me to rent a VPS? :)

ThoriumBR

I pay $1/mo on a vps

and I found one that's $3/year

nobody

Nice, what do you pay with?

Credit card?

ThoriumBR

yep

you get a shared core with a dozen others, have 10gb of storage, maybe 256mb of ram, 100mbps shared network, and ipv6 address... but works for a lot of things

I have one VPS with 256mb, and it runs Apache, MySQL, transmission-daemon, nextcloud, pihole, wireguard, paperless, archivebox, and a bunch of custom services I wrote in years...

but I upgraded the storage to 500gb

nobody

1:09 PM

Damn, don't have a card. All I have is cash (actually not a lot of that either). I mean I could ask my dad to pay with his card, but not gonna bug him for just a LDDMaaS

But anyways for the future maybe, what vps service do you use?

ThoriumBR

I have used several: BuyVM (formerly frantech, and they are good), ionos (formerly 1and1), digital ocean, mediatemple, ovh... depending on the budget of the project

nobody

So, basically, can you just google for vpses and trust that they aren't a scam or something?

ThoriumBR

lowendbox.com have good promotions

@nobody basically that

but mediatemple, ionos, digital ocean and ovh are reputable providers, with lots of infrastructure, working support channels, and are more expensive

I have one vps from buyvm for 8 years now, they are small but they are responsive

but there's always the risk on dead cheap ones, so don't pay for an year unless it's $10 or less...

paying $200 for a premium vps on somewhere just to them to go dark overnight can hurt

nobody

I see

How does a VPS compare to AWS in pricing?

ThoriumBR

this one is $6/year -> https://my.limitlesshost.net/order/config/index/usahosting-da/?group_id=39&pricing_id=303&coupon=XS50
it depends on how you use it...

aws can be pretty expensive if something goes wrong on your capacity planning

$6/year is pretty cheap and you can sleep in peace knowing you will pay $6. AWS can make your bill go from cents to hundreds of dollars if someone breaks into your server and mines monero.

so you have to configure your account with tight limits for spending, configure alerts when the usage goes over a threshold, READ the reports... it's more hassle...

nobody

1:23 PM

Shit. That's gonna hurt

ThoriumBR

but if you use just for testing or as proxy for circumventing geoblocking, can be very cheap... but comparing to $0.50/mo, it isn't worthy

nobody

Yeah VPS seems better

ThoriumBR

chrisshort.net/the-aws-bill-heard-around-the-world

this guy went from $27/mo to $2700 overnight

his fault... he sent a 13.7GB trial SQL server disk image (qcow file) to his site, someone found it, posted online, and a lot of people downloaded it overnight... 30TB traffic went by in 2 days

30TB seems a lot, but my transmission-daemon transfers way more than that in a month, and I pay $7.5/mo... not $2.7k

Anonymous

2:43 PM

@nobody AWS can just...

Anonymous

Die.

Anonymous

2:55 PM

@nobody What do you need?

Anonymous

I can buy you a VPS for crypto, if you want /shrug

nobody

@Jis12yearsold. Nothing right now, but thanks for the offer!

Anonymous

Okay :upside_down:

nobody

3:40 PM

So I answered a question that got downvoted and closed by schroeder a couple of days ago. OP posts almost exactly the same question again, it hits the HNQs. Its interesting how random a questions reception can be on stackexchange.

Anonymous

Link?

Anonymous

To both.

Anonymous

Also, ask @MechMK1 about HNQ hes the HNQ king

Anonymous

David Cameron grilled over Greensill: 'I thought we had a really good idea'

►

Anonymous

he is trying so hard

Anonymous

3:45 PM

to save himself

Anonymous

because he knows its all coming in on him and hard..

Journeyman Geek

@ThoriumBR I used to do buyvm's cheapest tier, they're good folks.

Anonymous

lol. I just saw a video on YouTube of Jordan Peterson talking about becoming exceptional at one thin and I think I might have chosen the wrong ideal for life.

Anonymous

Just kidding. I don't enjoy anything else, back to the disassembler I go :)

Rory Alsop

4:01 PM

@nobody HNQ is not good for many smaller SE sites.

Anonymous

BBC & CNN Bias EXPOSED On Israel and Palestine

►

Anonymous

Yeah, and I am wrong on this...

Anonymous

(as per what everyone tells me)

Anonymous

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Anonymous

maybe thats because i dont get my news from msm

Anonymous

4:01 PM

lmfao

Rory Alsop

@Jis12yearsold. what is msm?

Anonymous

Mainstream Media.

Rory Alsop

Oh - got ya. I don't get any mainstream media

Anonymous

In other words; the evil cunts who will write anything which sells and don't wish to ever enlighten people merely find ways to get them to buy more copies or more subsccriptions.

Anonymous

Which they'll do at the expense of the death of children, genocides, whatever it takes.

Anonymous

4:03 PM

And fuck the BIAS! we got more to sell!!!!!"!

Anonymous

OH 9 CHILDREN DIED IN PALESTINE? YEAH BUT THAT DOESNT SELL TONY

Anonymous

PUT "9 CHILDREN DIED IN PALESTINE BECAUSE OF HAMAS"

Anonymous

"yeah thats better, way more clicks!"

Anonymous

Makes me fucking sick.

Anonymous

and mad...

Rory Alsop

4:08 PM

Yes, that sort of thing is why I stopped reading anything by them around 18 years ago

Anonymous

Yeah, likewise.

Anonymous

But unfortunately, it still exists.

Anonymous

So I still hate it, and I still get annoyed by it and I still feel sick by it.

nobody

4:24 PM

@Jis12yearsold. It's this, but the random question reception thing happens way too often. Once we had an HNQ that was basically, "Never heard of emojis"

Rory Alsop

4:39 PM

@nobody I think my highest scoring post across all of SE is still from a silly HNQ ages ago. Not one of my good posts

nobody

heh, mine is a solution to simple old CTF challenge, again not one of my better posts (none of my posts are really good)

Anonymous

5:13 PM

Thanks.

Anonymous

I feel really restless right now.

Anonymous

God damn it.

Anonymous

I hate this...

reed

marketing is a satanic practice and should be eradicated

if one day hear about a terrorist group whose goal is to fight marketing, then you'll know that's me

Anonymous

Heh :D

reed

5:15 PM

because I've always wanted to do it

Anonymous

That is a cause I can get behind...

ThoriumBR

hahaha

I don't think any terrorist group would fight them, but they would recruit them for sure

reed

5:37 PM

29

Q: Is there truth to the philosophy that you should sync; sync; sync; sync?

When I was first introduced to Linux, working at Cisco Systems in 2000, I was taught the merits of the sync command, used to flush buffers to disk to prevent filesystem corruption / data loss. I was told not only by coworkers there, but by friends in college to always run sync "a few" or "a bunch...

I found that "legend" while looking for more info about sync, and I realized I actually tend to execute sync more than once, to feel "safer", and I don't know why

I was about to write a simple script to automate my method for "safely removing a drive", when I started to wonder whether I should put some "sleep" between commands because I don't trust sync. LOL

I currently do: sync (maybe more than once); udisksctl unmount -b /dev/sdb1; udisksctl power-off -b /dev/sdb;

in theory that should be ok, and sync shouldn't even be necessary (unmount is enough). However I don't feel comfortable writing a script, it's like I don't trust those commands to only end after they have done everything they had to do, not sooner

ThoriumBR

I saw people put echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches on the cron to run every 5 minutes... I still don't understand why

they didn't even knew how to interpret free -m and thought that lots of memory on cache was bad, and lots of free memory was good...

reed

as far as I know, there isn't a way to free the file cache on linux. I wanted to find a way to drop the cache to force a file read from the disk, but I haven't found a way

unless you fill the RAM, then if you try to read a big file it won't be in memory, and it will actually be read from the disk

ThoriumBR

dropping the cache does that, and you can mount ext4 with the option dax (kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/ext4.txt) to bypass page cache and always do direct io

reed

5:52 PM

@ThoriumBR, oh, cool

the echo 3 to drop the cache might be useful to me

ThoriumBR

Linus wasn't that happy with that, but it works wonders when you have fast io and memory is constrained... like virtualized servers with virtualized storage

echo 3 will drop EVERYTHING... even the inode caches, and that will be a large performance penalty

echo 1 drops only the page cache, and probably that's what you intend

Oracle database usually uses direct_io because it will manage the cache itself

and you can throw the raw disk at it, not even format it with ext4 or xfs or anything... less layers, more performance

nobody

6:54 PM

Hey, do any of you know of any free service that provides phone numbers for signing up to websites? Something like 10minutesmail

I know there are some free sms services but their numbers almost always seem to be blocked or used

ThoriumBR

7:11 PM

I usually google around, go straight to page 3 or 4, and test them all until one works

because pages 1 and 2 are going to have popular providers, and popular means blocked

reed

@nobody last time I tried (time ago) none of the services seemed to work. In theory it should be very difficult to find a number that works, unless you are very lucky and find one that has never been used, and for a website that isn't very popular

Anonymous

7:44 PM

If anyone ever wanted to know the cost of me not working, it can be summed up to 3 hours of pacing around my apartment aimlessly in circles trying not to punish myself for not putting enough hours in.

Anonymous

This. Is. Fine.

Anonymous

As you might be able to recognise, I have a very unhealthy relationship with work, so much so I feel like I deserve pain inflicted on me if I don't work hard enough.

djsmiley2kStaysInside

8:06 PM

ooof

was like that for awhile

so many employers abused it tho, eventually went 'fuck it' and stopped caring

obv. it's different if you're self employed, or not in paid work tho

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