The DMZ

12:02 AM

Random PSA: If you are running pfSense, don't. Run OPNsense. That is all.

12:15 AM

I ended up extracting the public key using a quickie Python script.
cert.public_key().public_bytes(Encoding.DER, PublicFormat.SubjectPublicKeyInfo)

forest

great

fragattacks.com

Anne Batch

@forest Interesting

forest

This is why I'm happy that I always use Tor.

I don't need to worry about Wi-Fi (and most of the time I use Ethernet anyway).

Anne Batch

12:32 AM

Indeed!

forest

12:59 AM

Is there any research into security for sex workers (resistance to osint/humint and the like, computer security, anonymity, personal safety, etc)? Not counting webapp security for porn sites...

All I've seen is the occasional "hey look how we hacked this sex toy" article or talk.

But nothing that goes beyond exploiting badly-made IoT devices.

ThoriumBR

1:59 AM

11pm and I watching on yt why 1/0 is undefinable, and why 0 to the power of 0 is 1 and not 0...

I should get to bed...

nobody

@forest The plaintext injection and the aggregation attacks look concerning. I'm not too worried about the data leak one though. Anybody who was relying on WPA for encrypting their internet access was doing it wrong anyways.

forest

3:08 AM

@nobody Well it just goes to show how much of a clusterfuck 802.11 is in general.

nobody

Exactly. Even a noob like me can tell that 802.11 sucks. It honestly seems like the people designing it were doing this sort of stuff for the first time in their life.

forest

It really does. Did you know in WPA2, the ESSID is used as the salt when calculating the PSK?

So the benefit of having a salt drops significantly for anyone with a common router name like "linksys", or whose router name is otherwise not unpredictable to an attacker. There are rainbow tables you can download for common router names, which is just insane.

nobody

Yup that's one obvious stupidity

forest

And the whole "the same secret used for authentication is also used for confidentiality" thing.

That it took so many years to fix with WPA3. Ironically, the original WPA2 was going to be equivalent to EAP-TLS which provides forward secrecy, separates authentication from confidentiality, etc., but it would have required people install certs on their devices which was "too hard(tm)", so they changed it to use a key whose knowledge doesn't just allow someone to use your hotspot without your permission, but allows them to tamper with and read everything going through the network.

nobody

Also in WPA2-PSK, why the hell do you go to the length of doing a 4 step handshake, when any one observing the handshake and knowing the PSK can derive your keys too?

Like if you are already doing a handshake, is it asking too much to use something like Diffie Hellman?

forest

3:17 AM

Yeah. And they use CCM so it's really not like they're worried about ultra-lightweight crypto...

forest

3:56 AM

@Jis12yearsold. For your amusement: gcc.gnu.org/legacy-ml/gcc-patches/2015-11/msg01773.html

(Horrifically-ineffective attempt at mitigating ROP from GCC)

forest

6:04 AM

Oh my god.

3

Q: Entropy sources used by modern Windows

A comment on a Microsoft blog from 2005 mentions over 150 sources of entropy for the Windows CryptGenRandom function. The majority of sources come from low-level system information (precise stat counters), the process' environment block, high-precision CPU counters, exception information, process...

The comment on the Microsoft blog that I was referencing got deleted after I posted this.

It lasted from 2005 until I posted on SE. The comment that was deleted answered:

> Can you give a details on what is behind RtlGenRandom, how does it works?

And the web archive doesn't seem to have it.

I guess now that the XP source code has been leaked, it'll be possible to dig in to find the answer.

github.com/cryptoAlgorithm/nt5src/blob/…

Anonymous

7:32 AM

"and 'transverse' is not a verb. "

Anonymous

Jesus, grow up.

Anonymous

I fuckin' hate people on this site.

Anonymous

Arrogant.

Anonymous

Annoying.

Anonymous

Over confident.

forest

7:33 AM

Link?

Anonymous

Narcissistic.

Anonymous

Fucking ego maniacs.

Anonymous

2

A: How FTP can be connect under SSH so it become sftp?

Before I answer, I believe you have a misunderstanding of the difference between SFTP & FTPS, because FTP doesn't just become SFTP. The link Matthew provided SFTP, FTPS and SecureFTP differences and security implications will be helpful in clearing up your misunderstandings. Alternatively, you ca...

Anonymous

Its like he had to fucking NIT PICK the last thing he could

Anonymous

out of the answer, chill out jesus

Anonymous

7:34 AM

@forest Oh thanks! I'll read in a few minutes :D

forest

I mean... it doesn't seem like a particularly bad comment.

Anonymous

@forest Awesome. I'll have to give it a go, I found a pretty useful blog. I'll let you know if I get stuck :D

Anonymous

@forest No I'm just annoyed.

Anonymous

So I am being unfair. I also hate people.

Anonymous

He's right. I corrected myself.

forest

7:35 AM

Yeah but, en.wiktionary.org/wiki/transverse#Verb

So I think you were right. It is a verb.

Anonymous

lmfao.

forest

> transverse (third-person singular simple present transverses, present participle transversing, simple past and past participle transversed) (transitive)

Anonymous

And this is why I don't correct people's grammar...

Anonymous

Because then you can look like a total clown when you're also wrong.

Anonymous

Meh. I don't even recall why I updated that answer, I did it yesterday when I was looking at my answers. Its whatever.

forest

7:37 AM

I update my answers fairly often.

Whenever I have something to add or improve.

Anonymous

Yeah, I noticed that. I think its useful to do that also.

Anonymous

I need to finish this format string exploit today.

Anonymous

Well, I've already done the first part. Just trying to work out how to get the leaked address back to my machine.

Anonymous

Although, I am not too sure how common format strings are in the world these days.

Anonymous

Most of the information I find on them is pretty outdated.

forest

7:41 AM

They're not super common (no one gets pwnt because of %n anymore), but it's still a classic.

Anonymous

Yeah, that's kinda' what I figured.

Anonymous

Useful to know and be aware of. But not overly common that I'll be able to use it a lot.

forest

It's like a linear buffer overflow. You need to know it, but you won't be using it.

Anonymous

Yeah, makes sense.

Anonymous

I have to build another ROP chain to bypass NX for this challenge anyways, so I am going to try and use HeapCreate, since I've not patched it yet, could be fun.

Anonymous

7:43 AM

Seem's a bit more tricky than VirtualAlloc and VirtualProtect.

forest

No idea what that is.

Is that some Windows function?

Anonymous

Windows call :D

Anonymous

Yeah, heh.

forest

syscall?

Anonymous

Yeah.

forest

7:44 AM

How many Windows syscalls are there even?

Like, a few hundred win32k and what, a thousand NT?

Anonymous

Oh there's a stupid amount.

Anonymous

Although, I technically think that it is not a syscall, in Windows language.

forest

From what I've heard, Windows syscalls tend to be excessive because they're simple and they have a dozen syscalls that each do a variation of one thing, whereas Unix-type systems tend to have fewer syscalls, but with a lot of flags to change behavior. True?

@Jis12yearsold. Oh a function call to some userspace library?

Anonymous

Yeah. A system library.

Anonymous

It's quite confusing actually, the design.

forest

7:46 AM

Ah, so more like malloc() than mmap().

Anonymous

Yeah, pretty much.

Anonymous

@forest Yeah that is true. There's a lot of syscalls and they don't have flags. At least, I am yet to find one which does have flags because they're so specific.

forest

I wonder how the syscall API complexity compares to Linux.

I know Linux has some really ugly (insecure) syscalls.

Anonymous

That's a good question.

forest

And I know Linux has no equivalent distinction between types of syscalls like Windows does wrt win32k vs NT. A syscall is a syscall is a syscall (well, there's x86_64, x86_32, and x86_x32 I guess).

Anonymous

7:49 AM

Here's a useful table to give you an idea... j00ru.vexillium.org/syscalls/nt/64

Anonymous

As you can see, there's a fair amount and they're quite specific.

forest

> NtConvertBetweenAuxiliaryCounterAndPerformanceCounter

What is with these awful names?

Anonymous

Hahahahahaha.

Anonymous

Yeah, not quite sure as I said, they're quite specific :D

forest

I mean... what's so hard about using names like ioctl and prctl and ptrace?

Anonymous

7:50 AM

If I am not mistaken also, they change the offsets for them on Windows 10 a bunch.

Anonymous

Extremely often.

forest

Offsets? Is that like numbers in the syscall table?

Anonymous

Yeah.

Anonymous

Exactly.

forest

Why?

Anonymous

7:52 AM

You know, I have no idea.

Anonymous

I suppose in some way they think its better security.

Anonymous

But I cannot find a coherent good answer...

forest

That's dumb.

Sony tried that with the PS4, which is based on FreeBSD.

Was useless for them.

j00ru.vexillium.org/syscalls/win32k/64 holy fuck that's a lot of syscalls

Anonymous

Yeah, I think it's also dumb. I've tried looking for a good answer but I can't find one...

Anonymous

I think it might be one of those things only the developers know why they do it.

Anonymous

7:53 AM

Hahahahahaa, yeah it is.

forest

I I guess it's really not possible to compare this to Linux since they have multiple syscalls for what Linux would do with ioctl(DRM_IOCTL_BLAH123) and ioctl(DRM_IOCTL_BLAH456).

Anonymous

Yeah, they have a damn lot...

Anonymous

I am not even sure if all of them are still used.

Anonymous

I mean, I don't know whether they deprecate them or not.

Anonymous

It doesn't seem that they do, they just sit forever.

forest

7:54 AM

And various read()s on file descriptors in /proc...

Anonymous

As someone mentioned on StackOverflow "the syscall numbers change whenever microsoft feels like it" but for Windows 10, they change a lot.

forest

Like wtf is NtGdiModifyWorldTransform? These names make no sense.

Anonymous

Hhahahahaahahaha.

Anonymous

@forest Windows :D

forest

gist.github.com/hfiref0x/16cc7a1f72cfebcce5810509ffd13b98 that's a lot of unimplemented.

John Zhau

7:57 AM

So I dumped a bunch of text with an SNMP walk but I'm not sure how I can maybe filter good info. For now I've grepd "pass", "root" and "STRING". Any ideas on what else I should grep?

forest

I guess not all these syscalls are really all that important.

Anonymous

Yeah, I don't think so.

forest

I'm so used to the Unix way that I'm always surprised at how different Windows is.

Anonymous

All of these get exposed via one DLL so thats how you invoke them from userspace.

forest

I don't even know how they manages processes without a parent/child hierarchy.

@Jis12yearsold. Presumably you can invoke them directly with syscall or int 0x80 instructions.

I imagine that the DLL just provides a wrapper, like glibc does.

Anonymous

8:02 AM

So, so far I have not needed to use them all that much for any of this. The biggest use case so far as been for egg hunting. Since you can use the syscalls then to search for your egg.

Anonymous

Well, not directly search for it, But for example, checking the memory is okay you can use like NtAccessCheckAndAuditAlarm

Anonymous

Then you'd provide the offset to that call

Anonymous

But yes, you use an int to invoke it

forest

huh

Anonymous

So, say you wanted to use NtAccessCheckAndAuditAlarm, one way would be to push the offset for the syscall (kiservicetable has offsets for syscalls) onto the stack , then pop that into a register then you can do an int0x2e which puts you into kernel mode (for 32-bit) and then you'd just want a simple comparison to check whether the syscall returned an access violation or not

forest

8:13 AM

Way over my head.

Don't even know what kiservicetable is.

Anonymous

Yeah it's a bit different to Linux :D

forest

Yeah. mov eax,whatever then syscall.

Anonymous

Yeah, a few more steps on Windows, heh.

Anonymous

Also, this question... security.stackexchange.com/questions/249266/…

Anonymous

We get a question like this at least once a month...

Anonymous

8:16 AM

Let's play, crypto buzz word bingo!

djsmiley2kStaysInside

@JohnZhau private

Anonymous

I got my first one: "Quantum Computing"

Anonymous

"Gelfond's constant, e^π"

John Zhau

@djsmiley2kStaysInside I'm guessing you mean the community string? I'm going through the output of finished SNMP walks

just "public" gave me a lot

djsmiley2kStaysInside

\ah

forest

8:18 AM

@Jis12yearsold. haha what

Anonymous

@forest Yeah in that question, anytime someone posts a question like this, they always add something in about quantum.

John Zhau

grep-ping STRING actually got me a bunch of running processes which is nice

Anonymous

Seemingly for no reason at all. They simply must talk about it. Like a fucking itch. Or a junkie waiting for another shot of heroin.

forest

@Jis12yearsold.

:D:D:D:D:D

Anonymous

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Anonymous

8:25 AM

HAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Anonymous

WTF IS HE TALKING ABOUT

forest

ikr

Anonymous

OH LOOK WHERES HES FROM

Anonymous

what a surprise.

Anonymous

its easy to say that when you have the american government backing you up

forest

8:26 AM

mhm

Anonymous

selling you arms

Anonymous

selling you exploits

Anonymous

you know it makes me so sad

forest

And strong arming any country that tries to stand up and say "no more".

Anonymous

the amount of people (non israelis) that also say things like this

Anonymous

8:26 AM

they really have no idea what is happening

Anonymous

and they see it that israel and the west are right

forest

And anyone who says otherwise is labeled an anti-semite.

Anonymous

it makes me mad, my girlfriend had to leave her own country (which she adores) because of this and then people have the audacity to say israel and the west have never done anything wrong

Anonymous

@forest yeah...

Anonymous

Hahaha, yes...

forest

8:29 AM

:p

Anonymous

that guy must feel real fuckign nice right now

Anonymous

in his house with 4 walls and a roof

Anonymous

an entire roof!!!

Anonymous

he is so blessed

Anonymous

jesus fucking christ

forest

8:30 AM

A house that might have been built for someone else, and taken from them.

Many settlements are composed of houses owned by others who were forced out at gunpoint.

This kind of thing makes me want to be an anti-vaxxer.

Because fuck everyone. We should all get COVID and die.

Anonymous

yeah it just makes me sad

Anonymous

she can likely never go back home..

Anonymous

and then i see idiots like this

Anonymous

i hope a bomb lands on his house :)

forest

How cruel!

Actually probably yes.

Anonymous

8:34 AM

:D

forest

Your hatred of humanity is refreshing, I have to say.

I don't meet many people who are smart enough to be fed up with this shit.

Anonymous

Oh yeah i cant stand it at all...

Anonymous

ooh got a meeting

Anonymous

back soon

forest

And I got a bed to sleep in.

Anonymous

8:38 AM

heh goodnight :)

forest

night

reddit.com/r/Scotland/comments/ig9jia/…

wow

nobody

9:11 AM

I hate it when I come and read the chat, and there are a dozen messages (removed) :)

forest

9:22 AM

@nobody tl;dr me and JJ aren't fans of Israel but don't want people to think we're racist.

Journeyman Geek

@nobody Wasn't me this time

forest

Self-deleted.

Because sometimes text can appear out of context.

nobody

Yeah I know, self deleted, but it breaks the flow of the conversation when I'm reading it :). Not saying you shouldn't delete (I would probably have deleted too if I was part of the conversation), but it still annoys me

forest

fair enough

nobody

Imma try to find out a way to prevent the webpage from removing the messages from me once I receive them

forest

9:29 AM

If you're really curious, I could repost them.

nobody

No no

This time, I can imagine what you said

forest

heh

ThoriumBR

edit the javascript of the page and change the deleteMessage function to just return true

it's just parsing data from a websocket, so you can make it ignore the delete command

nobody

@ThoriumBR That's what I'm trying to do, I'm just having a hard time finding that function

Ugh, looks like its using an external js file. How do you edit that?

ThoriumBR

let me check firefox/vivaldi/brave developer mode...

Anonymous

9:44 AM

I am back.

Anonymous

And yes, fuck israel.

Anonymous

Fuck the US.

Anonymous

oh and fuck anyone who calls me racist for saying fuck israel

Anonymous

i remember one idiot who called me biased for supporting palestine

Anonymous

like even if i were biased (as opposed to just a good person), my girlfriend literally had to leave the fucking country because of this. of course i'd be biased, fucking clown

forest

9:51 AM

Biased? For supporting Palestine? wtf

Anonymous

yeah apparently

Anonymous

lmfao

Anonymous

as if that has anything to do with it being a clear injustice

Anonymous

fucking clown

Anonymous

some peoples level of support for the west and their respective governments is mind boggling

Anonymous

9:54 AM

im convinced some of these fucks would openly support a genocide against their own with enough convincing

Anonymous

I mean they join the army because an advert told them to so... yeah

Anonymous

lmfao

nobody

@Jis12yearsold. its what happens when people take what the media tells them at its face value. They don't even try to think if it makes sense

Also, I feel bad every time I ping @Jis12yearsold.

Anonymous

@nobody Yeah... Sadly.

Anonymous

@nobody Why? :D

nobody

10:05 AM

@Jis12yearsold. Feels like I'm insulting you for no reason

Anonymous

hahahahahahahahahaha

Anonymous

how come? :D

Anonymous

whats insulting bout it :D

nobody

Oh well, now that I think of it, it can be a compliment too. A 12 year old already doing binex.

Anonymous

hahahahahahah :D

Anonymous

10:07 AM

yeah impressive right!!!

nobody

absolutely. Does the J stand for Jann?

Anonymous

(not a dox that was my name here before)

Anonymous

@nobody HHAhahaha

Anonymous

i just noticed the edit

ThoriumBR

10:28 AM

@Jis12yearsold. if you look at the fans of some soccer clubs, you see that a genocide against their own isn't that far fetched...

when some clubs gets to the finals, you can be sure some of either club will be killed by the other just because their are fans of the "wrong" team

forest

Really?

God damn Brazil.

ThoriumBR

me and my colleagues were talking one day about the situation in Israel and Palestine, and chatting about what could anyone do to stop the violence on both sides... one of us said that they should teach us how to behave, because even a football jersey is enough for you to be killed here

nobody

Well, football fans are probably ready to that everywhere, its just that in Brazil its easier to get away with killing

But it happens in other places too.

ThoriumBR

one of those days, a fan for a club named Treze was killed when people of the other team invaded his home, kicked him to death, shot him afterwards, dragged his body outside, put their own jersey on his body and left there "sitting" in front of his house.

they got caught because they shared the video of the entire "mission" on social networks

forest

wtf

Over a goddamn sport?

nobody

10:40 AM

@forest You could call it a religion for some

ThoriumBR

a man killed his wife because of soccer too.. they were fans of opposing teams, and the wife's team defeat his team, she was mocking him and he killed her

the first case the police still didn't caught anyone... they know the identities of them but they are still free... wtf...

MechMK1

bruh

The J in J's name stands for J.

forest

I thought it was the count variable in a nested for loop.

MechMK1

Aren't we all count variables in the nested for loop called life?

forest

Hold on I need to get high real quick before I re-read that.

MechMK1

10:49 AM

Here, this will help:

Static Movement & Kalki - Power Of Magic

►

nobody

I thought I was just an element of a multidimensional array, nothing else

MechMK1

I was always under the impression that nobody knew what the meaning of life was.

forest

Y'all are just page faults.

My goal in life is to be a triple exception fault.

Maybe then I can get the entire goddamn universe to reset.

MechMK1

I'm that one function that, when you look at the source code, you ask yourself how the fuck someone can write code this bad and yet it seems to work for some bizarre reason.

nobody

@MechMK1 I do.

MechMK1

10:53 AM

I've intensified my workout recently, and I used the Hitler method for motivation.

That shit works wonders.

forest

Hitler method? O_o

What is that, trying to look as thin as a guy coming out of Auschwitz?

MechMK1

Yeah, I'm imagine myself training in some secret SS facility, and above me some Nazi scientist is guiding Adolf Hitler around, pointing down at me working out and presenting him the perfect aryan Übermensch.

forest

kek

MechMK1

Trust me, that shit motivates you to work out hard

The resting days are the worst, because you can feel the muscle ache everywhere

nobody

haha, if I tried that, I'd get scared of hitler ordering me killed 'cause I'm ugly and presumably hitler wouldn't consider people as ugly as me as aryans

MechMK1

10:56 AM

I'm ugly too

Doesn't matter

What matters is the spirit of self-improvement

One is not born as the Übermensch - one becomes the Übermensch.

nobody

I don't believe anything can motivate me to do something I don't feel like doing. The Spirit of Self-Improvement is incompatible with nobody

I guess it just wasn't compiled for my architecture

MechMK1

:D

Do you want to know something that pisses me off to no end?

nobody

I already know many. One more can't hurt

MechMK1

Google's japanese IME in Google Translate is keyboard-layout agnostic, but their installable version is not.

It assumes a QWERTY layout

So I am better off using the web IME to type than the installable one

Also look at this cancerous font choice in Windows 10

How kana and kanji don't have the same font weight

It looks like the kanji are bold.

forest

How well do you know Japanese?

Anonymous

11:07 AM

@MechMK1 Haha :D

MechMK1

少しだけ。エロマンガを翻訳するには十分です。

:^D

Anonymous

@ThoriumBR lol true...

MechMK1

Now compare it to this and tell me which one looks better

Same text

Or maybe you're not a fan of scriptured fonts and prefer a more modern, sleek style

I personally prefer the first of the two proper examples, because I generally enjoy stroke-ends thinning out instead of it cutting off

It gives a more "natural" feeling, rather than the harsh endings of just a cut-off

forest

@nobody your chat profile about me is wonderful.

Dammit I wish I thought of that.

MechMK1

That is great holy shit

nobody

11:16 AM

@forest What is it?

forest

> Warning: mysqli::__construct(): (HY000/1045): SQLServer Error: Access denied for user 'srv418_chat'@'198.252.206.29' (using password: YES) in /public_html/chat/user_info.aspx on line 212

MechMK1

How do y'all feel about Adobe?

nobody

Oh yes, notice anything odd about it?

forest

@MechMK1 Horrible company.

MechMK1

forest

11:17 AM

@nobody Nothing in particular.

MechMK1

But I still like the fact that when you subscribe to Photoshop you get all Adobe fonts licensed for personal and commercial use.

nobody

@forest Its a php error, with file extension .aspx

forest

Oh, wow. How did I not notice that?

MechMK1

Nobody knows what kind of setup was used there

forest

@MechMK1 Just use Gimp.

MechMK1

11:18 AM

Besides, it's not like you couldn't do that

Ahahahahahaha

forest

It's FOSS. It has a funny name. What's not to love?

nobody

I had actually put a php error then found out that stackexchange uses asp so I just changed the filename

MechMK1

Oh wait please don't tell me you were serious

forest

Dead serious. I use GIMP.

nobody

@forest Huh, it works?

MechMK1

11:19 AM

How do you add a stroke to a text in GIMP, so it changes with the text?

forest

No idea. I use it for very basic purposes.

MechMK1

Yeah, I can use GIMP for that too

forest

But I do know it's used professionally quite often.

MechMK1

Photoshop is used a ton more

forest

Well yeah, because of their aggressive advertising.

MechMK1

11:20 AM

And the features in Photoshop just blow GIMP out of the water

No, I used both

forest

But you can't photoshop a photo of a dollar because they're fucking stupid.

MechMK1

I tried to use GIMP

nobody

I find its easier to use paint and powerpoint for editing compared to GIMP

MechMK1

Not my use-case :D

Photo-editing with Photoshop is a billion times quicker than with GIMP

Seriously, Photoshop is voodoo magic

"Select foreground object", tap on the picture, it automatically selects the "interesting" part of the image.

Could you do that with GIMP? Sure, you can manually trace it. But I'd rather get my job done in 20 seconds than 5 minutes

forest

meh

Photoshop could cure cancer and it wouldn't make me like it.

Unless it was bought out by any company that isn't Adobe.

Except perhaps Oracle. They're just as bad.

nobody

11:23 AM

Just pirate it

Then you're not supporting adobe

MechMK1

I hate Oracle a lot more

But do you know which company is awesome? Cockos Inc.

The guys who made WinAmp all those years ago later made Reaper, which is just an amazing DAW, and it costs 60 bucks. ProTools costs 299 per year, and reaper offers the same features.

So, enough sponsored content. Back to the regular chat.

Fun Fact: Shuten-Douji from FGO has a bob cut and is 145cm tall, because that's the haircut and height of her voice actress, Yuuki Aoi.

djsmiley2kStaysInside

12:55 PM

@ThoriumBR did you manage to turn off deleting messages?

bonus points if you make it turn red or something

to show someone attempted to delete it :D

ThoriumBR

NASA's OSIRIS-REx is en-route to Earth, and the capsule containing rock samples will land in Utah Sept. 24, 2023... from the unreliable V2 rockets to the ability to fly to an asteroid and back is such a nice progress!

@djsmiley2kStaysInside not yet but I am investigating the issue... but it's taking more work than predicted

djsmiley2kStaysInside

awww

I'd thought about it, but as I don't know javascript, and am lazy, never did more than a quick glance

ThoriumBR

it just occurred to me that SE have sandbox chat rooms...

no, they don't... there are sandbox posts, not chat rooms... but nothing stops me from entering looong inactive ones

rockets went from "point the payload side to England and fire away" to "we will land on an asteroid after flying autopilot for 5 years, and fly back home and land in Utah"

ThoriumBR

1:33 PM

success! now deleted messages are not deleted...

but I have no way to knowing it was tried to be deleted... yet

Journeyman Geek

1:50 PM

@ThoriumBR Oh they exist

nothing special tho

@MechMK1 they also made licecap

And I think I still use a old version of protools that came with my fast track USB :D

ThoriumBR

no need to use sandbox chats... this room already have enough traffic

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