The DMZ

Anonymous

7:33 AM

No, I don't really give a fuck either way. I just got mad because I dislike my words being purposefully altered to fit someone else narrative.

Anonymous

I am only willing to believe that my explanations are so bad a few times, when you're misunderstanding me every single time, I refuse to accept I am the person at fault for those misunderstandings after some point. After the fucking 10th time then I just hit melting point.

A. Hersean

8:39 AM

I stayed out of this drama. But @Jis12yearsold. you have my support. Don't feed the trolls.

Anonymous

@A.Hersean :) Thanks. Although I already did that since I changed my name. But I am quite a petty person so I felt like the name change was justifiable and also hilarious.

Anonymous

Today I need to move my blog to Hugo because Jekyll sucks.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. BRB, reporting to the CMs for being underaged....

:D

Anonymous

I also need to figure out how the fuck I build a Gentoo VM because I want to learn how to make OS' and it has that really nice feature of having two compilers available.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. frankly?

Put aside at least 3 days, and follow the build guide

Anonymous

8:48 AM

@JourneymanGeek LOL

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek Is it that hard?

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. no, its time consuming

Anonymous

Oh boy.

Anonymous

That's okay, I guess. I'll do it in stages :D

Journeyman Geek

Also it'll probably take 1 or 2 but ...

"Oh, it works, wait, I need to recompile the kernel so I can run X"

Anonymous

8:49 AM

Unless anyone has a suggestion of another distro which can have a "hotswap" slot for a compiler?

Anonymous

Because that is super useful, for sure.

Anonymous

I could just use Ubuntu and replace the compiler with my cross-compiler I gotta' build, I guess.

Anonymous

But the idea of having two compilers is nice...

Anonymous

Oh Jesus... I just read a Gentoo build guide.

Journeyman Geek

I thought as long you had it set up 'right' and had the libraries you needed on hand, you could switch, but I don't build so much stuff

Anonymous

8:51 AM

I don't need a hotswap compiler after all..

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. So yeah...

I actually recommend doing it at least once in your life :D

Anonymous

I'll use a Ubuntu VM because I'm a dirty scrub :D

A. Hersean

Or you could go the easy way with archlinux.

Anonymous

Hotswap compiler was a super nice idea in theory. Then I saw this 2000 line blog post about installing Gentoo.

Anonymous

@A.Hersean Does Arch have the ability for a hotswap compiler?

A. Hersean

8:52 AM

It has the ability of using precompiled packages (for most common ones).

I never tried to touch the default arch C/C++ compiler.

Anonymous

Hmm, I don't think that really suits my needs.

Anonymous

Because I need to build a cross-compiler which can compile both my OS and what I'm running on.

Journeyman Geek

I feel like I'm not grokking something

"Compile your OS" or "Compile your kernel" ?

Cause this is the one time bringing up Gnu/Linux makes sense :D

A. Hersean

From wiki.archlinux.org/title/Kernel/Traditional_compilation you must use GCC to compile the kernel, but you can tweak the options as much as you want. For the package usually the options depends on the packages.

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek Well, I need a cross-compiler because I need to be able to compile the code I am writing for the OS as well as my own machine, so it can tell what the difference is.

Anonymous

8:57 AM

Since the OS I am building is different.

Anonymous

So it needs a way of knowing that

Journeyman Geek

uh

thats not what cross compile means

Anonymous

yes its running on my machine

Anonymous

but its compiling for a different one

Anonymous

so i need to build that else it wont know its compiling for a different machine

Anonymous

8:59 AM

no?

Anonymous

or maybe im wrong but thats what ive read...

Journeyman Geek

Cross compiling is compiling for a different architecture

(and folks, correct me if I'm wrong_

Anonymous

hmm.

Journeyman Geek

And that's semi trivial

Anonymous

Well, from osdev wiki it says you need a cross compiler because you need to compile on your own machine but for a different target the target being what i'm writing.

Anonymous

9:05 AM

because of course, theyre different os'

Journeyman Geek

Ok, stop for a moment

Can you link me the article?

Anonymous

yeah.

Anonymous

wiki.osdev.org/GCC_Cross-Compiler

Anonymous

now im confused.

Journeyman Geek

> These two platforms may (but do not need to) differ in CPU, operating system, and/or executable format.

Anonymous

9:07 AM

right.

Anonymous

they differ in operating system, one doesn't exist yet. im on linux. what im building is not.

Journeyman Geek

So in theory if I built something statically in ubuntu x86_64, it could run on another distro that uses the same glibc implimentation

AH hah

Anonymous

Oh right i think heres the problem

Anonymous

im not building linux

Journeyman Geek

Well - that's a bit beyond my ken bit...

If you set up the build scripts, compiler and such properly, the distro you run shouldn't matter

Anonymous

9:09 AM

i was simply going to use gentoo because of the recommendation on that page of the whole hotswap compiler thing it makes two slots

Anonymous

but after seeing how painful it was to build, im just gonna use a ubuntu vm lol

Anonymous

i dont need two compiler slots anyways

Anonymous

/shrug

Anonymous

it was just a "nice to have" but it doesnt matter all that much

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek yeah it doesnt :D

Anonymous

9:12 AM

also i installed i3 on my laptop yesterday

Anonymous

since everyone says its really good

Anonymous

and it took me 10 minutes to figure out how to get a terminal

Anonymous

lmfao

Anonymous

it seems really efficient, when youknow how to use it...

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek TIL: idioms.thefreedictionary.com/a+bit+beyond+my+ken

Anonymous

9:17 AM

I like this phrase!

Anonymous

I thought it was something from startrek at first.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Anonymous

Heh, I've really never heard it before.

Anonymous

TFW you have better English than me...

Journeyman Geek

Oh, I think I picked it up from a wannabe scotsman in the old battletech community I was a part of :D

@Jis12yearsold. I mean, I'm only ESL :D

Anonymous

9:20 AM

@JourneymanGeek hah, that's awesome. A bit beyond my ken...

Anonymous

Never heard it before, it's got a nice ring to it :D

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek What is ESL?

Anonymous

Oh right

Anonymous

Second language.

Anonymous

I can only speak English, not well... I know maybe five sentences in Arabic too, that's it.

Anonymous

9:21 AM

I am terrible at learning languages. I tried to learn Spanish for over 5 years and barely made it past grade 3.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Anonymous

And when I say "five sentences" what I really mean is five half sentences

Anonymous

and a couple words...

Anonymous

of which i dont often use

Journeyman Geek

I speak english tamil, and at best toddler level french, but I forgot most of it.

djsmiley2kStaysInside

9:23 AM

wtf is with devs who have no ability to define what their requirements are?¬!

Anonymous

I thought most of Singapore speaks Mandarin? :O

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. Actually not really

Anonymous

Oh.

Journeyman Geek

English is the lingua franca, the majority of singaporeans are chinese (but Mandarin is the 'standard' but not the native dialect for many)

djsmiley2kStaysInside

I say 'I need to know your network requirements, to plan the firewall rules for your application'

they say 'oh we just need access to X on port Y'

it all gets implemented

Anonymous

9:24 AM

Wait, English?

djsmiley2kStaysInside

'Why can't I get to Z on port AA?'

Anonymous

That's surprising.

Journeyman Geek

@Jis12yearsold. Yes. English

@Jis12yearsold. We were a british colony

Anonymous

Well... Nevermind. You do have a lot of US tech invasions...

Anonymous

And that#

Anonymous

9:25 AM

but the us tech companies must be contributing :D

Journeyman Geek

US never was here :D

Anonymous

Do you not have lots of western tech companies in singapore?

Anonymous

I thought there were...

Journeyman Geek

THey were in the phillippines after chasing out the french

sure, but they're here cause we speak english

Anonymous

No, not army.

Anonymous

9:25 AM

I meant tech.

Anonymous

oh right okay

Anonymous

that makes sense i guess, yeah

Anonymous

i wonder how much english they speak in china

Anonymous

i guess quite a lot in huge cities.

Anonymous

actually i didnt realise how widespread english was

Anonymous

9:27 AM

i mean, i knew but I never experienced it

Anonymous

everywhere i went in europe; before people even knew i was english, they spoke english. i mean, i did go to major cities so it explains it i guess

Anonymous

but when i went to nablus with my girlfriend, they also spoke english a lot more than i expected...

Anonymous

i was at some random gas station in france for example, pretty far into france, not really near anything and they were speaking english there i was surprised

Anonymous

9:44 AM

does anyone know if its possible to host multiple sites on gitlab pages

Anonymous

i think im going to have some issues with the whole namespace thing

Anonymous

right? since you cant have two projects with the same namespace

reed

10:00 AM

why is the whole world talking so much about Covid, but we aren't seeing anybody talk this much about malware?

malware is already a pandemic, as far as I know. When are we going to hear people and media talk about malware the same way we hear them talk about Covid?

djsmiley2kStaysInside

....

because malware hasn't yet killed 159million people? (Debatable, I know...)

Also emotion.

nobody

@djsmiley2kStaysInside then why don't we talk about car accidents?

reed

yeah, maybe we need to wait for some better disasters

another difference is that while for covid you can blame nature (for example bats), for cyber security you are going to blame people (and software, and firms). So that might become a hairy issue

djsmiley2kStaysInside

@nobody human psychology is weird

We do talk about car accidents, to a point....

but people blame the people in the accidents, generally

nobody

well there are plenty of ways I can blame people with covid too

djsmiley2kStaysInside

10:16 AM

Sure.

But covid feels like something we can control to a point, whereas no ones gonna stop driving

Because no one thinks they are the cause of driving deaths.

nobody

Humanity has utterly failed at controlling covid.

reed

In a few years there will be a malware pandemic, and the government will say: "Please don't stay at home, go outside, don't touch your computer, disconnect your mouse, all porn websites must remain offline for one month"

3

nobody

hahahaha :D

daya

Govt is reporting only the recorded number of deaths but the actual data is more than that

nobody

@daya In India, yes, in some other countries, actual data might be less

daya

10:28 AM

For e.g. In India there are 400k+ cases everyday and 4.5k+ deaths

65% people live in rural areas and they didn't even got tested and then die

Cases got increased exponentially since March

Otherwise situation was getting normal

This is 2nd wave and some experts are saying that 3rd wave will come soon!

I mean WTF

When will this fucking COVID will disappear from Earth completely

@nobody yeah maybe

djsmiley2kStaysInside

@daya when nearly everyone is immune, or dead.

daya

@djsmiley2kStaysInside the possibility of everyone getting immune seems very low to me with such a large population

djsmiley2kStaysInside

well, anyone who doesn't die from getting it, will get some immunity

so eventually, everyone ends up immune, or dead...

daya

Hmm

The entire healthcare system is collapsed

People are dying from lack of Oxygen and some fuckers are black marketing the Oxygen cylinders

I mean How some people can do such inhumane things

djsmiley2kStaysInside

:|

ThoriumBR

10:43 AM

@daya money can change ethics

and conscience can have a price tag

daya

@ThoriumBR yeah It's all about making money even in crisis

ThoriumBR

we had a dam burst here a few years ago, people were selling water for $5/gallon before the accident and for $50/gallon after

truck drivers went on strike because of the fuel prices other day, and gasoline went from $4/liter to $12 overnight

djsmiley2kStaysInside

we had what happened because of the toilet roll shortages -_-

ThoriumBR

so in a crisis, some people get out of their way to help others, and some do the same to help themselves

djsmiley2kStaysInside

fortunately you don't need loo roll to live

daya

10:46 AM

It happens everywhere, here ambulance drivers are charging $681 for 40 Km!

And taking patients only if they have already booked a bed in that hospital

djsmiley2kStaysInside

God bless the NHS

whatever god is listening ;D

daya

And this new mutant is very dangerous

I heard that many people died within 2 days! after getting Covid

Some due to heart attack

In this wave, people are not even getting time to recover themselves. Mortality rate is very high and mostly youths are dying in this wave

Anonymous

why th efuck does dns take so long to update

Anonymous

im gonna scream

daya

And 3rd wave will target kids, some experts said

reed

10:54 AM

@daya where's that? Is healthcare free in your country?

God bless my fucking country, full of problems but where health care is free

daya

@reed In India it's not, but charges are not that much high. It is happening only in covid time

mostly private hospitals are charging huge amount of money

govt hospitals are free

But again, there are huge shortage of beds

$400 per day for covid beds

@ThoriumBR How's Brazil nowadays? any improvement?

I think India is in worst state

ThoriumBR

vaccination reached 8%, the president said he will be the last one to be vaccinated here to set an example (yeah, example of what not to do), and hospitalizations are as high as ever

but things are improving for elderly that already got the vaccine: hospitalizations decreased by 90%

daya

Hmm, glad to hear that

ThoriumBR

we need to ramp up vaccinations but cannot because we cannot manufacture the vaccine in great numbers, and people are now scheduling to get the shot, get there and see what kind of vaccine is, and choosing not to get that vaccine because they want the other one

daya

Yeah, that too is a thing

ThoriumBR

11:04 AM

and that leads to wasted vaccines... they should be fined and detained on the spot, and be released to go home only after paying the fine.

daya

We supplied vaccines to many countries and now we ourselves are on vaccine shortage!

ThoriumBR

that's the "some get out of their way to help" that I said before...

daya

hmm

Many countries are helping but it is not actually reaching to the needy people

because of some powerful people and politicians who are indulged in black marketing

MechMK1

@Jis12yearsold. Because of the CAP theorem

Anonymous

its really annoying

Anonymous

11:17 AM

Wow, GitLab is so much better than GitHub.

Anonymous

It has a thousand times more features and its free.

MechMK1

11:53 AM

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Q: is metasploit under whonix anonymous?

If I run an exploit like EternalBlue with Metasploit on whonix to a remote machine, do I remain anonymous? I think I do because it goes over tor but I am not sure. Am I right?