The DMZ

8:40 AM

@RoryAlsop My take is this. I really like the taste of tofu. I enjoy it in my miso soup, and I enjoy it grilled with some sauce. I like it for what it is.

But what I dislike is when they try to turn it into something that it isn't.

Rory Alsop

@MechMK1 Absolutely - if I liked the taste of tofu I'd be the same

MechMK1

I mean, I tried a few "meat alternatives" since my grandmother had a vegetarian phase for a while

Some were tofu-based, some were mushroom based I believe, some were I don't even know what those were

Rory Alsop

@MechMK1 I'd rather have a vegetarian dinner than "meat alternative" dinner

MechMK1

But none of them tasted like meat

Yeah absolutely! There are countless vegetarian things you can have.

Also one weird thing I encountered is that some vegetarians claim that eggs are forbidden - the reason being because the eggs result in a high death rate for male chicken

When it comes to eggs, I do buy the ones where they keep them alive, but they're quite a bit more expensive

Anonymous

9:14 AM

Morning.

MechMK1

@J.J Good morning! How's it going?

Anonymous

I am not too bad thanks. Got a very long and futile meeting soon... How about yourself?

Conor Mancone

@MechMK1 For everything you can think of there will always be someone who says it is "forbidden" :)

MechMK1

@ConorMancone I mean, sure. I just found it strange how widespread it is. Perhaps it's also just a local phenomenon too

Conor Mancone

9:27 AM

I've never actually heard that one myself, so it could be more local, or it could just be that you just happened to run into a bunch of such people, or I've just missed them

MechMK1

9:42 AM

Who knows?

I am not too bothered if someone says they don't want to eat eggs.

Don't get me wrong, I always buy the eggs where they say they keep the males alive. While I can't prove that they do, I certainly hope it's true

Conor Mancone

Eggs are funny things though - there are so many options! Vegan eggs, cage free eggs, free range eggs, and (now) "males kept alive" eggs. You can match your "justice level" to your desired price point.

We usually stop at cage free/free range

Oh yeah, organic eggs, antibiotic free eggs

I want "grown by a vat of yeast" eggs, but can't find them in my local store

MechMK1

Vegan Eggs?

A. Hersean

I like the vegan hot dog of Ikea. I guess it's the same world wild. They don't try to make it taste like meat, but it tastes very good, and way better than their "meat" one (that taste more like plastic than meat).

MechMK1

I would try it, but I can't resist the Panzerotti....

God they are so gooooood!!!!

Conor Mancone

Vegan eggs are eggs laid by chicken that only eat seeds/grains. In a lot of factory farming (at least in the US) they get feed that often uses less-desirable chicken parts as filler

MechMK1

9:50 AM

Is that even legal here?

Conor Mancone

I just tried to google that and now I'm wondering if I made that up. Naturally when I google "vegan eggs" all I find are plant-based egg substitutes

MechMK1

I know importing poultry from the US is illegal here in the EU.

Conor Mancone

I'm not crazy. Here's an article although it carries a strong slant, so I wouldn't read too much into this article. It may be accurate, it may not, but mainly the idea of "vegan eggs" as I described it is a thing in the US.

washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/04/29/…

MechMK1

I know that chicken farms here pride themselves in not having huge amounts of chicken

And that they let their chicken run outside, where they forage for food

That's why the eggs are more expensive: Because they simply can't upscale, as it would come at a reduced quality-of-life for the animals

Demand is met by having many different local farms

Oh hey, the article points the same thing out

Just let chickens be outside doing the thing they have done since 1823, when chickens were invented by Thomas R. Chick.

MechMK1

10:20 AM

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