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Simon
Simon
8:00 PM
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
 
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Ballot file contains 10 candidates and 445 ballots.
No candidates have withdrawn.
Ballot file contains 445 non-empty ballots.
 
Undo
Undo
^ Note they're UNOFFICIAL and MIGHT BE WRONG. But probably not.
 
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
Tentative congratulations to @schroeder then!
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
congrats @schroeder welcome to the mod community
 
Xander
Xander
Congrats @schroeder!
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
8:01 PM
commiserations to the others, there were a lot of strong candidates I thought
 
Simon
Simon
HOW DID I NOT WIN?!?
 
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
@Simon you weren't eliminated first or second...
 
Xander
Xander
See @ThomasPornin? Now I haven't won, and can moving on to trying to win the next thing, whatever it may be.
 
Simon
Simon
@RoryAlsop Really?
@Xander I'd totally rage quit if I were you.
 
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
@Xander it is odd looking at where the votes go
Up until round 8 looked like Xander would win
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
8:03 PM
@Adi did you see you were 3rd.... which goes to show ...
 
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
so it's 2nd or 3rd votes that made the difference
 
Simon
Simon
Oh, I just realized that we could scroll, totally didn't understand it.
@Undo Well done on the bot, seems to be working very nicely.
 
Undo
Undo
thanks :)
 
Thomas Pornin
Thomas Pornin
@RoryAlsop Yes, @Adi was actually leading in the first rounds.
 
Undo
Undo
It's github.com/Undo1/ElectionBot, if anyone wants to make it moar betterer.
 
Adi
Adi
8:07 PM
@RоryMcCune Are you kidding me? :D
@ThomasPornin So, who won?
 
Thomas Pornin
Thomas Pornin
@Adi Apparently, @schroeder.
@Xander was second, you were third.
These are unofficial results.
 
Adi
Adi
@ThomasPornin This is a joke
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
@Adi nope and from what @ThomasPornin was saying you were ahead in some rounds...
 
Adi
Adi
How can @Xander not win!!!
 
Simon
Simon
@Adi I'm kind of wondering the same thing.
 
Thomas Pornin
Thomas Pornin
8:09 PM
@Adi This was close (like 155 vs 169).
 
Simon
Simon
Not gonna lie.
 
Adi
Adi
What the fuck?!
Nobody knows who that guy is
 
Undo
Undo
maybe I rigged it
 
Simon
Simon
LOL
 
Undo
Undo
except I don't know who he is either, so unlikely.
 
Thomas Pornin
Thomas Pornin
8:10 PM
One must admit that voting behaviours on the main site cannot necessarily be accurately inferred from sampling of conversations in the DMZ.
 
Adi
Adi
I think I've only ever pinged him only once or twice in the my hole lifeitime here
@ThomasPornin Which is utter bullshit
We are the steering group of this place
We change the name
We adjust the tags
 
Simon
Simon
We handle me.
4
 
Adi
Adi
We decide what needs to be summairly closed
 
Thomas Pornin
Thomas Pornin
@Adi But are the voters aware of it ?
 
Adi
Adi
@ThomasPornin \The voters ask questions like "Is my wife spying on me?"
Fuck the voters
The voters are so stupid they chose me as 3rd
 
Simon
Simon
8:11 PM
Hahaha.
 
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
@Adi I'm sure that's a t-shirt
 
Xander
Xander
@Simon Ha ha, no. @schroeder will be a good mod. If it wasn't going to be me, I'm glad it was him.
 
Simon
Simon
@RoryAlsop I want that t-shirt.
 
Thomas Pornin
Thomas Pornin
@Adi They voted for you on that exact electoral promise...
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
hey I just realised that @schroeder is canadian! ... conspiricy theories ... ho!
 
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
8:12 PM
I'll need to look at those numbers and see how things may have been different if the joke noms weren't there
 
Adi
Adi
They voted for the election troll
 
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
but first I need to finish this pint of March of the Penguins
 
Adi
Adi
@Xander I don't care what the consequences are, but I highly doubt he'll be a better mod than you'd have been
There are 0 people in the DMZ who don't know you and there are 0 people who dislike you
Fuck this bullshit election.
We already know you're level-headed, patient, ready to listen, nice, respectful, etc.
You're like the me^-1
445 voted
Pathetic
 
Xander
Xander
@Adi I appreciate the sentiment. :-) But yeah, I'd say he'll at least be as good a mod as I would have been.
 
Adi
Adi
@Xander Man, you need to get CEH before next election :D
 
Undo
Undo
8:18 PM
2
Q: 2015 Community Moderator Election Results

Jon EricsonInformation Security's 3 moderator election has come to a close, the votes have been tallied, and the new moderators is: They'll be joining the existing crew shortly — please thank them for volunteering, and share your assistance and advice with them as they learn the ropes! For details on ho...

discussion featured election
It's official
 
Simon
Simon
I'm happy of my result.
 
Adi
Adi
 
Iszi
Iszi
I wonder how it would have played out if the system allowed more than 3 picks?
 
Adi
Adi
I was leading the first 4 rounds
 
Thomas Pornin
Thomas Pornin
@Adi Amusingly, @schroeder won because most people who voted for you put @schroeder as next choice, not @Xander.
 
Iszi
Iszi
8:23 PM
@Adi It's the difference between "who's your #1 pick for moderator" and "who's in your top 3".
@Adi Apparently you're the #1 pick for more people, but more people had @schroeder in their top three than you.
 
Adi
Adi
@ThomasPornin I found that very amusing as well
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
and the conclusion I come to from this is that .... people are weird
 
Adi
Adi
@Iszi Expected :D
 
Iszi
Iszi
In FPTP, @Adi would have probably won. But I'll forgo linking the CGP Grey video here.
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
@Adi was deliberately contentious in his nomination text, yet that got him most 1st votes...
 
Iszi
Iszi
8:26 PM
@RоryMcCune Hah. Now that's scary.
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
@Iszi are you calling @Adi a monkey?
 
Adi
Adi
@Iszi Which supports the idea that people want a tyrannical moderator
 
Iszi
Iszi
@RоryMcCune How's that equate to "@Adi is a monkey"?
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
@Iszi well it does go some way to explaining the popularity of contentious politicians...
@Iszi in the video to which you refer it's the monkeys that win in FPTP voting setups...
 
Adi
Adi
@Iszi Racist!
@RоryMcCune Racist!
@Adi Racist!
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
8:27 PM
ergo I was jokingly suggesting that you were comparing @Adi to those creatures
@Adi hey hey hey I just pointed out what @Iszi was implying, monkey boy :op
 
enderland
enderland
@ThomasPornin should have had them vote just once ;)
 
Iszi
Iszi
@RоryMcCune Reviewing now. There's no "monkey". There's "gorilla". And he comes in second in the first election. Leopard wins.
 
Gilles
Gilles
@Iszi not necessarily, because people might have voted differently
 
Iszi
Iszi
@Gilles That's why I edited to "probably".
 
Gilles
Gilles
STV encourages to vote 1. favorite underdog, 2. favorite likely candidate
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
8:29 PM
@Iszi ahh I'm mis-remembering, I thought the monkeys won the FPTP votes
 
AviD
AviD
@ElectionBot congrats @schroeder! I was hoping you would win, instead of one of the other losers!
;-)
 
Iszi
Iszi
@RоryMcCune Nah, they're featured in another video. But I don't remember if they won anything.
Congrats @schroeder BTW.
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
^ hey I didn't remember wrong
 
Adi
Adi
@AviD Screw you!
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
@Iszi it was monkeys that one the FPTP vote
 
Iszi
Iszi
8:31 PM
@RоryMcCune You're not linking the video I was referring to.
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
@Iszi well that's the one about STV which is the voting system we use here
:op
 
AviD
AviD
@Xander you're just saying that now.
@Adi hehe. Came in 3rd, and you almost didnt run...
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
@AviD would you care for me to ship you a spoon?
 
Iszi
Iszi
@RоryMcCune Incidentally, Gorilla is the final victor in the FPTP video.
And I was wrong. There were monkeys, but they were losers.
 
AviD
AviD
@RоryMcCune I dont get it?
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
8:33 PM
@AviD if I shipped you a spoon, you could keep stirring things up :op
 
AviD
AviD
@ThomasPornin yes, but they each meant the other voters, not themselves.
@RоryMcCune ahhh hehehe
@RоryMcCune yes, that is my job, as the official pantsweasel of the group.
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@Adi ftr, and not speaking comparatively, @schroeder is very active around the site, even if he is less of "one of da bros" around here
though he does hang around here quite a bit too, dunno why you haven't seen him.
 
Adi
Adi
@AviD I hope that now he's a mod he'll become "one of the bros"
Being "one of the bros" is an important part of being a mod
It's essential to listen to the most inflectional group of the community you're moderating
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
I'm just disappointed @Flyk didn't nominate herself
 
Adi
Adi
I think I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and see how he'll do
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
that would have been ... interesting
 
Adi
Adi
8:37 PM
This is a rare thing that I'm doing
 
AviD
AviD
@Simon I didn't like that @ScottPack was eliminated before @LucasKauffman. That's plain ridiculous.
@Adi categorically disagree.
for the obvious reasons.
 
Iszi
Iszi
@AviD Apparently a substantial chunk of @ScottPack's voters selected him as third choice.
 
Adi
Adi
@AviD Notice who was the least active mod in his mod duties?
 
AviD
AviD
@Iszi I guess... All the rational voters had @Xander, @schroeder, and @ScottPack - just most of them put him 3rd.
hey @ScottPack! you won the rational vote!
@Adi @Jefff?
 
Adi
Adi
@AviD No, the other one
 
AviD
AviD
8:39 PM
:23071213 heh.
also fair.
@Adi dammit, me?? what are you saying?
 
Adi
Adi
No, the German one
 
Iszi
Iszi
@Adi You mean the one we're replacing?
 
Adi
Adi
Yes
 
Iszi
Iszi
Oh, I get it. You're pissed because you think German == Nazi, and you lost while proposing a similar regime.
 
schroeder
schroeder
Thank you all for your votes!
 
Adi
Adi
8:41 PM
There's a direct correlation between involvement in the DMZ and the level of activity with the mod duties.
 
schroeder
schroeder
@Adi I may not be one of the bros, but I listen. I'm not always chatty here, but I am here every day
 
Adi
Adi
@Iszi Ha?
@schroeder You'll become one of the bros. Give it time :D
You'll be pinged a lot
 
Iszi
Iszi
@Adi i.e.: You thought comparing yourself to Hitler would win you votes since the outgoing mod was German. Of course, that follows the fallacious assumption that we were happy with the outgoing mod.
 
AviD
AviD
@Iszi not necessarily - the voting dynamics would have changed, which is the point.
 
Adi
Adi
@Iszi It did get me votes
 
Iszi
Iszi
8:43 PM
@AviD And again, I said probably.
 
Adi
Adi
In fact, I got the most 1st-votes
 
schroeder
schroeder
@Xander I was really hoping that the mods would open up a 2nd position since we were so close
 
Iszi
Iszi
@Adi Who knows if your campaign actually got you anything? Maybe there's actually enough people around here who like you regardless. (Scary, I know.)
 
CodesInChaos
CodesInChaos
I don't think you'd have been a bad mod @Adi.
 
Adi
Adi
Hey, @schroeder, can you ban @Iszi?
 
Iszi
Iszi
8:44 PM
@Adi I don't think he's been inducted yet.
 
schroeder
schroeder
@Adi no prob - lemme find that button ....
 
AviD
AviD
@Iszi and also - durp, guilli ninjad me
 
Adi
Adi
@Iszi He's blue and has diamond
 
Iszi
Iszi
@Adi Oh, shit... CTRL+F5 and boom.
 
Adi
Adi
@CodesInChaos I'd have been a benevolent dictator
 
AviD
AviD
8:45 PM
@schroeder hey now, it was just the one. each. I hope.
 
Undo
Undo
@schroeder join ussss
 
Iszi
Iszi
@Adi Maybe during the Irish famine.
 
CodesInChaos
CodesInChaos
@Adi You're too soft for dictatorship :)
 
Adi
Adi
@CodesInChaos Maybe you're just not hot enough
 
Iszi
Iszi
C'mon, nobody got that one? I know it was a stretch, but really...
 
Adi
Adi
8:46 PM
@CodesInChaos Jokes aside, I disagree. I have all the qualities to be a dictator
 
CodesInChaos
CodesInChaos
@Adi Only if you become bitter.
 
Adi
Adi
@Iszi Because I'm a potatohead?
 
AviD
AviD
@Adi oo shiney! hey @schroeder... NOW the real congrats!
wanna have a celebratory #simonkick?
 
Iszi
Iszi
@Adi The Irish famine was particularly known for its lack of potatoes. And without any 'tators, what's a dictator?
 
Adi
Adi
@CodesInChaos I'm sitting 2 meters away from the monitor, I read that one "only if you became hitler"
 
AviD
AviD
8:48 PM
@Iszi wow, that's.... that's subtle. like, REAL subtle.
 
Rоry McCune
Rоry McCune
@Iszi #1pun
 
Undo
Undo
@Adi way too far away. Monitors are meant to be used from about nose-length away.
Or have I been doing it wrong?
 
Adi
Adi
@AviD You know what they say about jokes on that subtlety level?
@Undo I'm in bed trying to sleep
and using my wireless keyboard/mouse
 
AviD
AviD
@Adi it's about as funny as a screen door on a battleship
 
Iszi
Iszi
@AviD Why don't you make like a tree, and get outta here?
 
AviD
AviD
8:49 PM
Biff, you dumbass
2
 
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
@Adi I see where the problem is. DMZ != sleep
 
Adi
Adi
I think I'll go to sleep. Maybe it all be just a dream and I'll wake up to a world where most people don't vote for me.
a better world
Good night
 
Iszi
Iszi
It's kinda funny how the Opavote site doesn't say it, but you can figure out from the graphs how many of each candidate's votes came from first, second, and third-place choices. At least for the ones that didn't make it to the end.
Like, if I'm reading mine right, I had 22, 4, 2.
 
AviD
AviD
@Iszi first and 3rd is easy. I guess 2nd is a matter of calculation of the difference.
 
Iszi
Iszi
Oh, and that's only doable after the 3rd round I think.
So, anyone except @Xander & @schroeder, who was still around in Round 4, can do that calculation.
 
Undo
Undo
8:56 PM
@Iszi or you can just download the raw data and run regexes on it and count the lines that match
 
Lucas Kauffman
Lucas Kauffman
@Avid mmm? How can you see how you ranked?
 
AviD
AviD
@Iszi also, it doesnt account for votes that never make it to you, because the previous position was not eliminated before you.
 
Iszi
Iszi
@AviD Oh, you're right.
So I'm totally out of whack.
There might be one person who could still get that.
 
AviD
AviD
@Iszi anyone with the raw data?
 
Lucas Kauffman
Lucas Kauffman
the fuck
how can @TerryChia be behind @Simon?
 
Xander
Xander
8:58 PM
@schroeder Yeah, well, c'est la vie. I figured it would be close, and I knew that there was a good chance you'd win, so I was duly prepared. :-)
 
Undo
Undo
@Iszi psst. Download raw data from security.stackexchange.com/election/download-result/3 :)
 
AviD
AviD
@Undo hmm. They messed up the REST URL on that one, IMO.
 
Undo
Undo
agreed
 
Lucas Kauffman
Lucas Kauffman
@Xander Are you going to cry yourself to sleep tonight?
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
I didn't even place? What the fuck is this noise?
 
AviD
AviD
9:02 PM
@ScottPack right? thats whatsapp level of craziness.
not sure which is more insane, that, or @Adi coming in 3rd.
 
Xander
Xander
@LucasKauffman Possibly not. Might be a good excuse for an extra beer though!
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
Wow. These results are weird.
 
Iszi
Iszi
@Undo Now that's just cheating.
 
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
And that's with 445 people voting
 
TildalWave
TildalWave
@ElectionBot Jeez that's some odd elimination of a good part of our top scoring membership. I'm so glad I'm on page two right now LOL
grats @schroeder and in case the bot miscounted something, grats @Xander :)
I can't say I understand those vote transfers tho... what's that? Like they do it in Florida?
 
Iszi
Iszi
9:13 PM
Ok, so without raw data @Adi is the only one who can definitely say how their votes were laid out based on the OpaVote site.
 
CodesInChaos
CodesInChaos
121 people voted only for candidates that didn't make the top 3.
 
TildalWave
TildalWave
@CodesInChaos that's weird
 
Iszi
Iszi
@CodesInChaos I wonder how many didn't vote for @schroeder at all.
Aw, crap. That thing doesn't work for @Adi either. Or I'm doing it wrong. Or both.
 
CodesInChaos
CodesInChaos
Personally I think that the rep requirement for voting is too low, especially considering the association bonus.
 
TildalWave
TildalWave
repist!
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
9:20 PM
Note everybody. That's an 'e'.
 
Iszi
Iszi
@CodesInChaos I concur. I think to run for mod (even though this would eliminate myself right now) on a mature site you should have to be at "Trusted User" level. And to vote, you should at least be able to vote-close questions.
 
CodesInChaos
CodesInChaos
I'm eligible to vote on 19 sites. In can't call myself a community member for most of them.
 
Iszi
Iszi
@CodesInChaos 300 rep, right?
 
CodesInChaos
CodesInChaos
Isn't it 150?
 
Gilles
Gilles
@Iszi wow, 20k? Way too high. Some great SO mods had <10k rep.
 
CodesInChaos
CodesInChaos
9:23 PM
Or does it depend on the site?
 
Gilles
Gilles
@Iszi 150 to vote, 300 to run (except on SO which has additional requirements)
 
Iszi
Iszi
@CodesInChaos Oh, 300 to run. Might be 150. Could be less for betas.
 
CodesInChaos
CodesInChaos
I was talking about the right to vote, not the right to run.
 
Iszi
Iszi
@CodesInChaos Me too. Just thought it was 300 to run.
Holy crap, I could vote on Biology, just because of my one question there?!
 
CodesInChaos
CodesInChaos
Perhaps instead of raising the rep requirement, adding a "days visited" requirement might be a good idea.
 
Iszi
Iszi
9:26 PM
I'm eligible to vote on nearly 30 sites, and probably not qualified to be a responsible voter on more than 6!
 
AviD
AviD
@TildalWave who is a rapist??
 
Iszi
Iszi
@AviD That's not a mis-spelling up there.
 
AviD
AviD
@TildalWave watch those CGP videos above.
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
I was just pointing it for people like @AviD that it was spelled correctly.
 
AviD
AviD
I just assumed it was his European accent.
 
CodesInChaos
CodesInChaos
9:28 PM
The transfers for eliminated candidates are easy to understand. Just transfer all the votes to the next candidate on the preference list.
The transfers from chosen candidates are more subtle.
As usual, the devil is in the details.
 
Amelia
Amelia
it's Meek STV
 
AviD
AviD
@CodesInChaos Discourse has a similar mechanism. You advance "trust levels" based on how many posts you've read and interacted with.
 
Amelia
Amelia
CGP Grey explains it in pretty incredible detail
and even mentions Droop
 
AviD
AviD
CGP Grey - the only guy who knows more about proper election schemes than @nealmcb.
3
 
Amelia
Amelia
I have a CGP Grey shirt.
Minutephysics, too.
 
AviD
AviD
9:32 PM
@Amelia I would be quite impressed from your collection of tshirts logos.
did... did I just creep myself out?
4
yes, yes I did.
 
Amelia
Amelia
Yes.
I need to make a list of people I'm hitting with a metal bucket filled with ice at defcon. And I need to somehow get a taser.
3
 
AviD
AviD
I think this is better.
 
Amelia
Amelia
@AviD You're still #1 on both lists
 
AviD
AviD
@Amelia yay!
what's the other list?
 
Amelia
Amelia
Also, someone at work had Chrome 12 on a machine
 
AviD
AviD
9:34 PM
NO WAIT I DONT WANT TO KNOW
 
Iszi
Iszi
@Amelia What? How have I not seen that one?
 
Amelia
Amelia
Last release date for chrome 12 was 2011
Also, get @Simon in here so @schroeder can kick them
 
AviD
AviD
@RoryAlsop we need to refrain from handling flags in the next few days; everyone else needs to start flagging EVERYthing.
 
Iszi
Iszi
Presumably, her earlier post referred to "people I'm hitting with a metal bucket filled with ice at DEFCON" and "people I'm going to shoot with a taser".

Now, is she actually hitting the people with the bucket while it's filled with ice? Or is she just badly phrasing her desire to dump ice on them?
 
Amelia
Amelia
@AviD you can still flag for moderator attention as a mod
 
AviD
AviD
9:36 PM
this will be @schroeder's induction by fire.
a ritual hazing, if you will.
@Iszi also, she never specified that the taser is for tasing the list of people.
@Iszi well, if the bucket is full of ice, it will hurt more when you get hit in the face with it.
 
Amelia
Amelia
@AviD no, it's for use on people. bucket of ice on their head, tasing the bucket
 
AviD
AviD
also I'm pretty sure that's a euphemism, anyway.
 
Amelia
Amelia
Also it hasn't stopped raining here in ~52 hours
 
AviD
AviD
wow, its been at least that long since it dropped below 30C here
 
schroeder
schroeder
@AviD uh - can I claim to be on vacation?
 
AviD
AviD
9:41 PM
@schroeder of course!
to be clear, moderation is still required even whilst on vacation.
 
schroeder
schroeder
yeah, but what about hazing?
 
AviD
AviD
sure, if you want.
 
David Freitag
David Freitag
@Amelia The taser is easy, get a disposable camera and two nails.
 
AviD
AviD
@DavidFreitag then slam the nails into the target's hands, and take a picture of them screaming.
 
David Freitag
David Freitag
@AviD No. Connect the nails across the several-thousand-volt capacitor in the camera, let it charge, then poke someone with it.
 
Scott Pack
Scott Pack
9:46 PM
Pew pew
 
AviD
AviD
sure, you could do that
 
David Freitag
David Freitag
It's not as good as a real taser, but it is seriously painful.
 
TildalWave
TildalWave
27 mins ago, by Scott Pack
Note everybody. That's an 'e'.
 
AviD
AviD
21 mins ago, by Iszi
@AviD That's not a mis-spelling up there.
20 mins ago, by Scott Pack
I was just pointing it for people like @AviD that it was spelled correctly.
NURD
 
TildalWave
TildalWave
@AviD what CGP videos?
 
AviD
AviD
9:49 PM
those
I think there might be another couple in that series
 
David Freitag
David Freitag
Also, the amount of blue in the past hour of chat is slightly alarming.
 
AviD
AviD
hey @TildalWave @ScottPack @schroeder @Amelia @Gilles @RoryAlsop @CodesInChaos @JourneymanGeek @Undo - we should totally lock this room, make it a mod only room. That would be fun.
@DavidFreitag I have no idea what you're talking about.
 
CodesInChaos
CodesInChaos
 
AviD
AviD
heh
oops forgot @Undo
 
David Freitag
David Freitag
No offence to @schroeder, but I am pretty bummed that @Xander did not win the vote.
 
AviD
AviD
9:56 PM
@DavidFreitag you kidding me? @schroeder was my first vote!
you too, @ScottPack.
but hey, I gotta work with the guy now ;-)
 
TildalWave
TildalWave
@AviD you do realize that's all BS, right?
 
CodesInChaos
CodesInChaos
Two first-votes AviD? You should become a manager. Everything has the highest priority.
2
 
AviD
AviD
@TildalWave of course. A gorrilla could never run for office.
Too intelligent.
@CodesInChaos exactly.
 
TildalWave
TildalWave
@AviD exactly :)
 
AviD
AviD
@CodesInChaos I used to answer those managers, that come at me with "but it's urgent!", with "Urgent? We don't deal with plain urgent, only ON FIRE".
@TildalWave but why did you mean its BS?
 
CodesInChaos
CodesInChaos
9:59 PM
It's it's not its. Damn it.
 
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