The DMZ

Simon

12:07 AM

@Xander Did you ever taste the beer "La fin du monde"?

Xander

12:25 AM

@Simon Yes. opencraftbeer.com/unibroue-la-fin-du-monde

TildalWave

Is there any way to skip all those intros in Borderlands 1? The game would freeze every now and then, not sure why, but the most annoying thing is that it takes minutes to reload and it's not loading that's slow

OK found it, apparently I have to remove / rename intro videos and it'll do the trick

Simon

@Xander Cool! That's what I'm drinking right now.

A 750 mL bottle #yolo

Xander

@Simon Nice! It's a fabulous beer. Of course, just about anything Unibroue makes is fabulous. One of my favorite breweries, easily. But that one is particularly good.

Simon

@Xander It looks like we got some sweet brewers here.

Xander

12:40 AM

@Simon In Quebec? Oh yeah, for sure. McAuslan is another one. They have just about the best Oatmeal Stout on earth.

Simon

@Xander Cool I'll check 'em out

I was expecting La fin du monde to be a lot harsher since it's 9% but not at all!

Xander

@Simon Yeah, it's really well done.

@Simon This is the McAuslan Oatmeal Stout, in case you see it: mcauslan.com/en/beer-facts/?brand=st-ambroise-en&id=446

It's under their St Ambroise label.

Smooth and creamy and not at all bitter. It's yummy.

Simon

Hum, I don't think I've ever had oatmeal stout.

I should try that out.

Scott Pack

2:17 AM

@Xander I considered getting one of those the other night.

KnightOfNi

3:12 AM

Hi all

TildalWave

4:04 AM

This question appears to be off-topic because only David Houde can answer it. Would you two boys like to rent a room? — TildalWave 1 min ago

well that's a first

FEichinger

lolwut

TildalWave

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Q: David Houde some informations please

Hi david (if you see this post), you answered to this post : Hack into a computer through MAC and IP address The hack isn't insteresting me, bu i want to understand how it works. Can you explain me with more details the procedure ? Or simply delivery me some sites which will help me to improve m...

network

KnightOfNi

@TildalWave The question that linked to is fun...

It took me a couple of minutes to figure out the whole community was screwing with him...

TildalWave

yup I remember it

FEichinger

@TildalWave facepalm

KnightOfNi

4:08 AM

@TildalWave The "redacted formula" was just great... A bit of math...

I genuinely felt bad for that guy

TildalWave

well what's odd is that nobody flagged that whole thread so it would be deleted ... a bit of harmless fun and having it there a day or two like usual, but that's from April

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Q: Hack into a computer through MAC and IP address

Can I hack into someone's computer if I know the MAC address of his modem and his public IP address? Is this possible? What kind of stuff would I be able to access?

network

^ cc @RоryMcCune @AviD probably best if both these two questions are deleted before David gets in trouble, god knows how many didn't get it he's just mocking it

KnightOfNi

@TildalWave Perhaps the bears wanted to waste the time of some more would-be hackers?

Or at least didn't mind other people wasting their time...

Although, in the defense of the poser, he never did ask HOW to break into someone's computer. He just asked if it could be done...

Hey, @TildalWave, how did you do that?

edit your message, that is

TildalWave

@KnightOfNi up arrow on your keyboard, then edit away

also, I'm a mod I can edit anything

KnightOfNi

@TildalWave Not working for me...

TildalWave

not that I want to, mind you

there you go

KnightOfNi

4:17 AM

never mind, I was clicking on things...

got it

TildalWave

there's also a menu to the left of each post if you hover with your mouse over it

KnightOfNi

Now I'm going to spend the next several hours fixing every grammatical mistake I've ever made on this chat... Bless you

TildalWave

you can't, non mods can only edit for some time, dunno what the grace period is I think 2 or 3 minutes

KnightOfNi

@TildalWave So... this is hell...

TildalWave

that's been said a few times before for the DMZ

KnightOfNi

4:21 AM

@TildalWave I am very ready to believe that... People around here have way too much fun.

And I mean that, of course, in the best possible way.

Never having been the object of the fun.

Stack Exchange

6:14 AM

I'd like to find a corpus of writing writing from children in a non-self-selected sample (e.g. handwritten letters to the president from everyone in the same teacher's 7th grade class every year)--and score the kids today versus the kids 20 years ago on various objective measures of writing quality. I've heard the idea that exposure to all this amateur peer practice is hurting us, but I'd bet on the generation that conducts the bulk of their social lives via the written word over the generation that occasionally wrote book reports and letters to grandma once a year, any day.

Rоry McCune

7:34 AM

@DavidFreitag cool!

FEichinger

@StackExchange Randall does have a point there ...

At least the kids are writing at all, without having to force them.

Which is more than can be said about my generation and older, for the most part.

TildalWave

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A: Could a third party access my system - particularly browsing history?

Oh, yes, it is possible in this modern society. In my opinion, it is quite common to put some malicious files on your machine by email attachment. Then, concerning about your colleague accesses your computer, I heard that there is software like Micro Keylogger http://goo.gl/K9upwS can be used to ...

more Micro Keylogger spam disguised as an answer ... well, almost ... if it actually was something more than useless generic crap

Can we please ask devs to add a custom spam filter (it's possible) for "Micro Keylogger"?

^ cc @roryalsop @avid

Stephane

7:59 AM

@TildalWave Flag it as spam and it'll go away

FEichinger

I'm pretty sure @TildalWave has already flagged it.

Stephane

But I'm wondering if they aren't astroturfing

FEichinger

But spam flags are sadly not all too effective for prevention.

Stephane

Yup

Not directly

But the devs can use it to write filters

More effectively than just waiting for someone to complain

FEichinger

Hence why @Tildal is asking for a filter addition. ;)

Stephane

8:01 AM

And they have access to the logs which could allow them to identify the source and shut it down (for a day or two)

Sorry, I mean that it's more efficient just to flag it as spam and let the whole process work than trying to shortcut it with direct requests

Or so I believe :P

Not that it's of terrible importance anyway :)

FEichinger

There is no "process" that raises spam flags to dev attention. At least not remotely as fast as it should be. ;)

Stephane

That I don't know

FEichinger

The "process", in fact, is usually just "get a mod to ask a dev".

Stephane

But for a web site this big, spam has to be an issue

So I imagine there are some stats created from spam reports

Or you just might be right :P

FEichinger

There are spam stats. But they're usually not helpful for finding patterns.

You have different kinds of spammers, different ways of avoiding detection ... Usually it's easier for the community to figure that out, than for a statistic to reveal it.

Stephane

8:05 AM

Weird

Because, ultimately, we do spot it through patterns ourselves

Although we so have somewhat more brain power than the average Bayesian analysis tool ;)

FEichinger

Yes, patterns that lead to "Hey, this {keyword} keeps showing up in those posts, maybe we can get a filter against that!"

Stephane

^^

FEichinger

A computer will tell you "Each of those posts contains the word 'have'! Try banning that!"

Stephane

You're getting way too simplistic

FEichinger

Not really.

Imagine you have two different spammers.

One posts about 'Micro Keylogger' all the time, the other about, I dunno 'Download HBO Game of Thones'.

How does the system tell those two apart?

Without sacrificing patterns?

Stephane

8:08 AM

But using URL shortening service might lead to "posts containing links to goo.gl are likely spam)

FEichinger

Yes, but shortened links aren't inherently bad. Could be a twitter quote.

Stephane

That's where the flag spam comes in handy

Sure it could

It's a question of stats

Any given keyword (or any element of a post, really) can be weighted against how often it appears on "ham" and how often it appears on "spam"

And the ones that overwhelmingly show up in spam but not ham can be used to created automated filters.

Bayesian filtering, in other words :P

FEichinger

Yes, and now compare that to the amount of posts made at any given time throughout all of SE.

Then you might also have network-wide spammers, or site-specific spammers.

Which could give false-positives in either direction as well.

Stephane

You'll have to segragate by site, obviously

Sorry... have to run: conf call in 5 and I haven't read the doc yet

FEichinger

"HBO Game of Thrones" would likely identify spam on Ask Ubuntu or InfoSec. On Movies & TV, it might be a perfectly valid post. On the other hand, a random blog might be spam absolutely everywhere, and also posted absolutely everywhere. The network is too complicated for accurate spam identification.

TildalWave

8:32 AM

@Stephane definitely astroturfing if you wanna call it like that (too polite?), we had loads of such posts all containing one "goo.gl" link to where you can purchase licence for it (not that anyone here would be that stupid anyway) and wrapping it all with some basic stuff about computers and internet in general as "an answer"