The DMZ

Scott Pack

12:38 AM

Xander

1:38 AM

I don't think that's a drinking game. I think that's a recipe for "How to get alcohol poisoning."

Scott Pack

While this is only slightly related...I will occasionally say the word "Once" in a rather deep breathy voice just to annoy Katie.

Simon

2:32 AM

@ScottPack Katie is such a lucky girl.

Do you think she realizes how lucky she is?

Scott Pack

Unlikely.

coding_corgi

2:48 AM

Yo yo yo!

Anyone here know anything about botnets?

Scott Pack

That's....a rather broad question.

Rather akin to asking, "Anyone here know anything about fire?"

coding_corgi

@ScottPack ha ha, how does someone discover a botnet?

Scott Pack

Usually either accidentally or on purpose.

coding_corgi

@ScottPack i get that, but how? Do you see strange packets? Overflow of some kind?

Scott Pack

3:06 AM

It would honestly depend pretty heavily on the intent and purpose of the person doing the discovery.

Some researchers do their damnedest to get something infected and then monitor the communications. Some may actually hire our botnet nodes

coding_corgi

@ScottPack ah, and when someone says I took over a botnet, they mean they just hacked into the C&C server?

@ScottPack cool.... and creepy...

Scott Pack

Were I to identify a botnet it would probably be by identifying an infected machine and doing network analysis.

@coding_corgi Usually it's more DNS sink holing. Figure out what the CNC is and take over it's DNS record somehow.

coding_corgi

@ScottPack DNS? WTF is that? Ive hear of it but...

Scott Pack

I somehow take your A record and point it at my DNS name.

coding_corgi

@ScottPack uhhhh, wah?

Scott Pack

3:11 AM

Petition the registrar, wait for it to lapse and put in my registration first, etc.

coding_corgi

@ScottPack Thanks, so it's through DNS? Okay, ill go take over one now,

;D

I'm out

Hasta la vista!

Scott Pack

Bless. That'll be fun to see the results of.

Stack Exchange

6:22 AM

I'm entering my 24th year of spending eight hours a day firing the Duck Hunt gun at the flying toasters. I'm sure I'll hit one soon.

TildalWave

6:41 AM

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Q: What are the purposes of these security policies?

I work at an IBM lab and there are some security policies that I do not understand the point of. When I ask why we do them my boss simply says it's policy and avoids answering the question. We must keep empty drawers locked When we leave work we must lock up writeable media We must lock any not...

Why is this question on the first page of the SuperCollider?

Slow day on SE?

AviD

7:22 AM

@ScottPack Damn coders, dont even know DNS.

sorry to see I missed the @scottsnarkfest.

Terry Chia

7:42 AM

@AviD Throw this over to network engineering? security.stackexchange.com/questions/37922/…

AviD

@TerryChia done.

Rory Alsop

7:57 AM

Busy this morning @AviD? You seem to have the front page sewn up :-)

AviD

@RoryAlsop do I? oops. doing some tag clean up...

like eg policy.

gonna merge that with corporate-policy, but first I have to take out the ones that mean something else...

I still think moderators should be able to edit without a pagebump...

I think we need a Summer of Tag Cleanup project...

any takers?

maybe I'll meta it later...

Rory Alsop

8:14 AM

I think it has been requested a few times - not sure why we don't get bump free cleanups

ManishEarth

8:55 AM

@AviD Meta it. That's the standard procedure. Propose a preliminary list of tags to be burninated, and as the community comments, you can add/remove tags as necessary. After a while, ping a comm team member

AviD

@ManishEarth ah, no, what I'm talking about is a real spring cleaning. I dont have the list of tags, we need to walk through them all.

ManishEarth

@AviD Yeah, sure, so don't start with a preliminary list of tags

AviD

for example, we have 3 pages of single-use tags. most of them should be removed.

also dont need comm team, they get cleaned up when they're not in use.

ManishEarth

Oh, comm team is for mass burninations

AviD

there are also quite a few tags that are overused and misused.

ManishEarth

8:57 AM

A quick query ought to get you a list of tags sorted by use

AviD

@ManishEarth no, for the most part we need to go one by one, at most we can dump a filtered tag as a synonym.

ManishEarth

muzak plays

Rory Alsop

Plinky inky pinky plink

AviD

@ManishEarth umm.... duh?

Rory Alsop

(That was Muzak)

ManishEarth

8:58 AM

Oh :p

Didn't know they added pagination to that

AviD

But dont want to buy, sell, or manufacture anything.

(That was Cusak)

Rory Alsop

I like the way we get improvements just subtly and quietly added

Oh dear @avid

AviD

@RoryAlsop heehee

@ManishEarth wow, thats been around a LONG time.

ManishEarth

Not for /new

And it's still not there :P

AviD

ah, true. I click that seldom enough that /new isnt relevant...

also just because its been around for a while, doesnt mean its a good tag.

ManishEarth

9:01 AM

It's actually a good way to find crap tags

new tags=crap

AviD

@ManishEarth not necessarily.... sure, they should be reviewed, especially if they are by relatively new users, but a lot of the new tags are good, or potentially good.

ManishEarth

Of course, but usually they're crap :P

AviD

even single-use tags arent necessarily bad. it's their potential that matters - single use from this month, might get used a lot more - single use from last year, unlikely.

yknow what.... COFFEE TIME.

think I'll go for the Kenyan today.

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD what does kenyan taste like?

Rory Alsop

I went for - a coffee whose flavour is perfectly hidden by the vanilla syrup. As usual

AviD

9:05 AM

> sweet with honey, a vibrant wine-like acidity, with hints of fruit.

Rory Alsop

Although I have to admit I just ordered a tassimo for my wife. She appears to be taking over my caffeine addiction quite well

AviD

> deep fruit tones of currants and berries, an essence of grapefruit and a penetrating complexity of flavor that reveals itself slowly from first sip to last.

@RoryAlsop lol

@LucasKauffman its funny, I find these descriptions to be very hoity toity, like wine ~~snobs~~ sommelliers, but drinking it a lot of times it really does make sense.

it is a lot brighter than some other coffees, not quite honey but relatively in that direction. vaguely fruity/berry-ish. not as dark and heavy as say, columbian.

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD do you actually taste all those flavors?

AviD

@LucasKauffman well not as much as all that, but I definitely see difference between other coffees.

Rory Alsop

When I used to run a wine cellar, I just used to ask the customer what wines they liked, and then suggest wines they would probably also like. None of that snobby 'hint of badgers sett, with floaty Tarmac overtones' stuff

AviD

9:09 AM

@RoryAlsop hehe

but yeah, even without being hoity toity, some people can really appreciate the differences, and the subtleties, of different wines.

Other people mock them.

Rory Alsop

Definitely

To both statements

I really do appreciate the differences in wine, whisky and cheese - but not much else works for me to that sort of level

AviD

the guy that runs the boutique I get my coffee from is a REAL freak.

Lucas Kauffman

@RoryAlsop did you ever drink a Saint Petrus ?

Terry Chia

@AviD Like @Adnan?

AviD

he has a 5000$ machine, and if its set to the wrong bean, soaks the grinds a few seconds too long or puts the water with the wrong pressure, he can really tell the difference.

It just tastes wrong to him.

Lucas Kauffman

9:12 AM

@AviD wtf

Rory Alsop

Wow

AviD

tbf, if you drink whisky in a wine glass, or at the wrong temperature, or you didnt let the wine breath long enough - you would know from the taste, wouldnt you?

Lucas Kauffman

with wine definitely

Rory Alsop

Yep

TildalWave

actually, on second thought... see @RoryAlsop's reply below :))

Rory Alsop

9:14 AM

Blasphemy!

Lucas Kauffman

@TildalWave coffee is when I'm working ^^

TildalWave

@RoryAlsop didn't put it right

AviD

@TildalWave hehe, really, in this room? cmooon son.

TildalWave

dunno... I'm sure there's been nice studies about it

Rory Alsop

As eating and drinking are essential, making them very enjoyable is quite a nice idea

TildalWave

9:16 AM

@AviD he's right, it did read all wrong

Rory Alsop

Breathing is essential too - and it does make a difference breathing highland air, or city centre air...

AviD

@TildalWave its one part sensitivity to differences from perfection, from experience, and one part cognitive awareness and understanding of the process.

@RoryAlsop oh yes absolutely. unfortunately its too damn hot to open the windows here right now.

TildalWave

@RoryAlsop have you read some short story (would be in sci-fi stuff prolly) where the guy was interviewing God, asking him why he stays on our planet? Might have even been called Interview with God, but I honestly don't remember the title... anyway, God replied he just loves the concept of enjoying foods and drinks, and is something that even him, as a creator, hit him by surprise

Rory Alsop

Same here - it keeps getting up over 20 degrees. That's pretty hot when you have evolved to cope with scotland

@tildal - not sure. It rings bells but nothing concrete

Terry Chia

@TildalWave Ask on Scifi.SE. :P

TildalWave

9:19 AM

@RoryAlsop It would be pretty old, maybe 20 years ago

AviD

@RoryAlsop lol... that would be beautiful here. We're talking over 30C now...

@TildalWave I think that was a George Carlin bit...

TildalWave