Hinduism

Pandya

8:03 AM

@AkshayKumarS I think one should go beyond such disturbance

Akshay Kumar S

@pandya

definitely

but not all are in same level

right?

That's why 41 days of celibacy will help them go

beyond it

Pandya

Well, our approach should be beyond any prapancha

I believe everything is possible with controlling mind i.e. meditation

Akshay Kumar S

Everything is correct. And that's why Sabarimala is for that. And second I dont deny with what you are saying but i have addressed from common people point of view. We can climb up only step by step.

And second meditation is actually blissful feeling. The inner silence when we reach thoughtless state

Pandya

Hmm. That's also understandable

@AkshayKumarS Do you practice it?

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS Lol.. I'm not. I'm just like everyone.

@RubelliteYakṣī Yes. His channel has many good renditions of such slokas.

Akshay Kumar S

8:09 AM

Yes. When meditation gets converted to tapasya?

Pandya

@AkshayKumarS That's what only your Guru can answer or you yourself. Btw, have you read RajaYoga by Vivekananda?

The Destroyer

@RubelliteYakṣī I get it.

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer haha. I have seen your earlier chats months back too. You are aware of Maya and that's why you are off from chat for most of time :P

@Pandya No. Why?

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS What can we do even if we know Maya. We are still bound to it. It is through constant practice only we can get rid off that.

Yes. Only Guru can guide us.

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer yeah even last portion of illusion should also be destroyed as said by Krishna in Uddhava Gita - meditator and object of meditation

Rubellite Yakṣī

8:15 AM

@Pandya I wish! Maybe I will meet some in my Hinduism course next semester. Finally they offer one Indian Language course here: Hindi. But, really they should call it Hindi/Urdu because I know the teacher spends almost as much time on Urdu as he does Hindi.

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS Yes.

Rubellite Yakṣī

I asked someone in the languages department if there would ever be a Sanskrit course and she said it took them 6 years to get Hindi (q.q )

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer I have to ask you this. While Kaivalya Moksha is ultimate but what about Mokshas in Shivaloka, Vaikuntha?

The Destroyer

@RubelliteYakṣī Unfortunately, most of the Hindi used in North India is Urdu. We south Indians can't understand Urdu as it has many persian and Arabic words. But on the other hand, we can understand Hindi well. For example, a South Indian in Madurai or Tirupati can understand bhoomi rather than Zameen.

@AkshayKumarS Actually it depends on philosophies.

@AkshayKumarS Also, there can be multiple Kailasas. One in physical earth and other in cosmic plane, as mentioned in Shiva Purana.

Rubellite Yakṣī

@Pandya I agree we should. But I can understand how it could make the process much harder. On the otherhand, as I was talking about before, I think we can learn greatly from our failures. I believe the world is as it is precisely because the bad things help shape and hone us. So, I see it as avoidance of the problem rather than conquering it.

But I do understand the impulse

The Destroyer

8:22 AM

I think only the one with cosmic Kailasa is eternal and even Agamas gives different hierarchies of Shiva and Vishnu and Devi.

@AkshayKumarS

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer Is there anything beyond Cosmos?

The Destroyer

But ultimately i feel, these texts differ superficially and ultimate experience would be same for everyone irrespective of philosophy they follow.

@AkshayKumarS What do you mean by Cosmos?

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer - Just check this site. vishwaamara.com

Rubellite Yakṣī

@Pandya Yes, I think so too. But that requires a certain level of faculty. It's like with music. Some people are tone def, they can't get better at singing by practicing singing. First they must learn to discern the tones. Most have some degree of talent, so we can practice and get better. Still others are musical geniuses and great composers. Those are like the Rishis who accel quickly

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS If cosmos is physical universe, then Brahman is beyond everything. Whole cosmos lies in him.

if you are into Advaita, whole cosmos lies in you as per it.

Rubellite Yakṣī

8:27 AM

@TheDestroyer okay, cool

Baby Be'el

HAMMER TIME!!

Akshay Kumar S

One of biggest and difficult question to answer is where we came from @TheDestroyer

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS In Advaita, we didn't come at all. Maya is itself Maya. 😊 Looks like jugglery of words to others.

TheLittleNaruto

@AkshayKumarS Read Shiva Sutra by Jaideva Singh; Only the introduction part. You'll get the answer.

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto Your email? I will mail you the book.

Akshay Kumar S

8:30 AM

Yes. @TheDestroyer - Agree that we cant become what we are already. We are covered using clay and process of removing that clay is Yoga. Let's see how our life goes.

Rubellite Yakṣī

@TheDestroyer Yeah. He teaches both Devanagari and Arabic scripts and he said he will only teach Urdu words that are not from Arabic. Ultimately, I couldn't justify taking another language class and I figure I can learn Devanagari on my own sometime.

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer do you have the book what Naruto mentions?

TheLittleNaruto

Acharya Utpaladeva philosophy on manifestation of whole universe has answers to all our questions. @AkshayKumarS

The Destroyer

@RubelliteYakṣī Also, honestly i feel you can learn Sanskrit rather than other Indian language, although i have no ill feelings towards other Languages.

TheLittleNaruto

@AkshayKumarS archive.org/details/SivaSutrasJaidevaSingh_201801

Thank me later

Just read the introduction part.

Akshay Kumar S

8:32 AM

@TheLittleNaruto I'll thank you now itself.

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS No. It's biography a saint who practiced Sri Vidya.

TheLittleNaruto

And if it gets you interest, you might want to read the whole book.

@TheDestroyer ?

Are you talking about Shiva Sutra ?

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto which book you want?

TheLittleNaruto

@TheDestroyer The one I replied to one of your message.

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto ok. It's same book.

Akshay Kumar S

8:35 AM

@TheLittleNaruto @TheDestroyer - The reason why I brought this question is in Muktia upanishad, Rama also talked about Kaivalya as ultimate. Do you know any recent sage of Kaliyuga attaining Kaivalya Moksha?

SwiftPushkar

Baby is also here 😀

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar We should know previous birth of Baby and help her in liberation. 😁

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer haha

TheLittleNaruto

@AkshayKumarS I am not sure what is "Kaivalya" Moksha. But most recent one sage imo would be Ramana Maharshi who attained Moksha.

@TheDestroyer lol

baby Are you alive?

Baby Be'el

@TheLittleNaruto Certainly not

TheLittleNaruto

8:37 AM

Oh ok

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS Many saints have attained Nirvikalpa Samadhi. I know many saints who have gone to that state. Not exactly sure how Kaivalya Moksha is described. Need to check it.

Akshay Kumar S

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Q: What is Kaivalya Moksha?

Here in Muktika Upanishads, Rama describes Kaivalya Moksha is ultimate. What is it? Is it merging into existence of Brahman? I-i-15-17. Hanuman: Rama, sages speak differently: some say there is only one kind of liberation. Others say it can be got by worshipping your name and by the Taraka mant...

brahman

TheLittleNaruto

Oh

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS Saw it. It looks like Kaivalyam only.

TheLittleNaruto

IMHO Adding Kaivalya to moksha does not change anything about Moksha

Akshay Kumar S

8:39 AM

Can you elobrate? @TheDestroyer

TheLittleNaruto

It is same what has been described

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto Yes.

Akshay Kumar S

@TheLittleNaruto hinduism.stackexchange.com/questions/28880/… @TheLittleNaruto

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS I need to read exact conversation.

Rubellite Yakṣī

@TheDestroyer "Maya is itself Maya." LOVE THAT. I'm going to use this phrase

TheLittleNaruto

8:41 AM

@AkshayKumarS Again interpretations can be many. But Moksha is Moksha.

Akshay Kumar S

@RubelliteYakṣī - even if you are attached too much to one philosophy is also Maya :P

The Destroyer

@RubelliteYakṣī You will find many such phrases in Yoga Vasistha. My favorite book is Yoga Vasista.

TheLittleNaruto

@RubelliteYakṣī Just one thing, Don't compare Maya with Delusion or something equivalent.

Maya is real

Akshay Kumar S

@TheLittleNaruto Maya is real as well not real

TheLittleNaruto

It is real and will always be

SwiftPushkar

8:43 AM

@AkshayKumarS Yes , exactly

TheLittleNaruto

Anything what we experience is real, Isn't it ?

Rubellite Yakṣī

@TheLittleNaruto This depends on what you mean by "real"

TheLittleNaruto

For example if we see a mango, we say it's real

we can't say we're in dream and seeing some mango

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto Read my recent answer on this question hinduism.stackexchange.com/q/29358/3500

Rubellite Yakṣī

@TheLittleNaruto Yes, but you do not actually see the mango. You see something which is based on all your previous experiences with mango

Your experiences with mango are different than mine.

TheLittleNaruto

8:45 AM

@RubelliteYakṣī Of course, eventually you say it's real

Rubellite Yakṣī

So what you see is different to what I see

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto How are you so sure what you see is Mango? I can prove you don't know what you are seeing.

Rubellite Yakṣī

And, neither of us sees it as the cloud of atoms and quarks it really is

TheLittleNaruto

Ok let's say it's an object

Make it generic

The object you see you can name it something I can name it something else

That's ok

But since we are seeing it, we can say its real, right ?

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto it's not just name. It is sense of touch, Sense of sight.

They are uncertain and don't given complete details of an object.

Rubellite Yakṣī

8:47 AM

@TheLittleNaruto Nope. Because we do not purely sense perceive. We sense perceive and then attach meaning to what we have perceived.

TheLittleNaruto

Ok not pick so big words

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto See that answer, I have explained clearly.

TheLittleNaruto

It's very simple

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto It's not simple. That's the point.

TheLittleNaruto

As a normal human being, what we see, what we believe

Rubellite Yakṣī

8:48 AM

@TheLittleNaruto I mean, our eyes are not like cameras. They don't strictly take in visual data.

TheLittleNaruto

when I say "see" It means what we experience.

The Destroyer

That's the first mistake. Don't blindly believe what you see. Senses are deceptive.

Rubellite Yakṣī

they take in visual data and then our mind filters out what we are not paying attention to and then assigns meaning based on all past experiences

TheLittleNaruto

Ok my whole point is, similarly Lord also experiences his energy in the form of Maya

which is not delusion at all

Hinduism bot

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The Destroyer

8:51 AM

6 mins ago, by The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto Read my recent answer on this question https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/q/29358/3500

See this answer and linked answers.

If you want detailed explanations, i can mail you a book where they are explained in detail.

TheLittleNaruto

No I can read the answer

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto Ok. But Maheswarnath babaji explains with help of Science. Indeed, after reading that i understood it well. And now i can understand Yoga Vasista perfectly.

TheLittleNaruto

"Naturally we see that the mind is not intelligent; yet it appears to be intelligent. Why? Because the intelligent soul is behind it. You are the only sentient being; mind is only the instrument through which you catch the external world."

The Destroyer

See my explanation under it.

Whatever we see, touch is just a thought in mind.

Our desire is thought..

Whole world we see are just thoughts in mind.

Rubellite Yakṣī

I keep falling asleep and it is 4:00 am, so I will go. bye bye

TheLittleNaruto

8:56 AM

@TheDestroyer This is how Vedanta interprets. It's wrong.

Rubellite Yakṣī

Yes, @TheDestroyer has it exactly correct.

TheLittleNaruto

No

Rubellite Yakṣī

@TheLittleNaruto Read on phenomenology

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto Lol.. You can't say wrong.

@TheLittleNaruto See i have given these arguments to Rakesh. he didn't even read them. I have given the same to Sv, he didn;t even read and say this is wrong.

Rubellite Yakṣī

The debate you are having is exactly the debate between empiricism & phenomenology.

TheLittleNaruto

8:58 AM

I am not good at explanation; otherwise I would have given you correct counter statement which would have proved it's wrong.

The Destroyer

@RubelliteYakṣī ok.

TheLittleNaruto

@TheDestroyer Because it's WRONG!

Rubellite Yakṣī

@TheLittleNaruto It's not a matter of your rhetorical ability. People smarter than both of us have already played out this debate 😉

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto World doesn't become unreal all of sudden. Else i can survive without eating food as it is unreal.

World is real for me and so for you.

Rubellite Yakṣī

@TheLittleNaruto I'm too interested in the topic ( ^^)

TheLittleNaruto

8:59 AM

Just our mind thoughts can't make this whole universe

The Destroyer

People misunderstand Advaita. They just see Maya and nothing else.

Rubellite Yakṣī

@TheLittleNaruto What it means is that, everything I experience, I have assigned all of the meaning it has (for me). I don't experience the thing as it really is. It's impossible

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto You are wrong here. I will given step by step logic. Please read it. I will mail the book. Hardly it takes 15 min

TheLittleNaruto

I strongly suggest you too to read introduction part of shiva sutra @TheDestroyer

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto I have read Shiva Sutra, It doesn't contradict Advaita. Just difference in understanding. Me and Rohit discussed this for long lengths.

And me and Tezz too in Vedanta room.

Rubellite Yakṣī

9:03 AM

Literally summarized into four sentences: simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empiricism

& 2 paragraphs: simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenomenology

The Destroyer

Wait i have taken screenshots of the book and posted in one room.

Let me give here as i don;t have the book with me now.

SwiftPushkar

Can we do something to remove sex tag from the here also the word hot is confusing to some of the new viewers

google.co.in/…

TheLittleNaruto

What did you search ?

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar Siva Siva 🙉🙈 Kaliyugam 😛😀

2

TheLittleNaruto

Search this: "hinduism stackexchange" @SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer ROFL

SwiftPushkar

9:08 AM

@TheDestroyer haha , often users just give glance at few words , new viewers of the link might think differently in instance when they will look at the link from google search

@TheLittleNaruto yes , the search is same :-)

TheLittleNaruto

@SwiftPushkar Nope you got space in between stack exchange

Rubellite Yakṣī

See also: simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism#Realism_in_philosophy

TheLittleNaruto

@SwiftPushkar My search is without space stackexchange which is correct

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer -do you have Yoga vasishta? I am keen for it

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS Yes. I have complete English translation.

Wait let me share that epub

Rubellite Yakṣī

9:11 AM

@SwiftPushkar Ugh. I think you can submit directly to Google, but IDK how anymore.... i even still possible

TheLittleNaruto

Also just a suggestion which applies to me as well: Learn Sanskrit. It's better. Because English translation may have different interpretation.

SwiftPushkar

@TheLittleNaruto yeah this time its showing different tags , but we should remove the tag from displaying at all in every search result , its the least used tag . :-)

TheLittleNaruto

And avoid reading a translation from western author

Akshay Kumar S

@TheLittleNaruto - What will happen to us tomorrow is different from what we think. when you see a rope lying on ground from long distance will appear to be snake but only when you go near you know its rope.

TheLittleNaruto

@AkshayKumarS lol that Sankara logic; Sorry I don't follow him and his logic.

The Destroyer

9:12 AM

@AkshayKumarS Here is the epub shivabalayogi.org/Library/…

Akshay Kumar S

@TheLittleNaruto - As long as your mind functions, you are trapped in delusion...

The Destroyer

this is complete english translation of Yoga Vasista. All 6 volumes.

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer - thanks

Rubellite Yakṣī

@TheLittleNaruto Okay, last one: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_it_Like_to_Be_a_Bat%3F

Anyway. I really should sleep for a few hours, now. Night.

TheLittleNaruto

later o/

Akshay Kumar S

9:14 AM

@TheLittleNaruto Ow is it? I havent read most of Indian scriptures but followed Siddha tradition and Uddhava Gita at the start until Guru came to me. But again you are answer is Maya because you answered it out of your sensory perception stored in intellect and not out of your observation :P

Well, @TheDestroyer - I dont have file to open it.

Pandya

@TheLittleNaruto no refer Ajatavada

TheLittleNaruto

@AkshayKumarS I used to follow him in early days, but when I came to know that he vilify women and womenhood in his scriptures and same for Sudra.

I stopped

Akshay Kumar S

@SwiftPushkar Because in everything we have action and inaction. Real and unreal. Something in nothing!

Pandya

@AkshayKumarS Yes, right. which scriptures you have read?

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS Read "Jewel in the Lotus book". You will understand Advaita more properly, Sri Maheshwarath Babaji explains very logically. I have never seen such explanation. Reading after this book, yoga vasista makes sense. Yoga Vasista will not be understood if basics of Advaita are not strong.

TheLittleNaruto

9:17 AM

We are ultimately manifestation of Supreme, So there should not be any difference, be it a women or men or whatever

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS Which OS you have?

TheLittleNaruto

@TheDestroyer Same is for me. Got Windows 7

The Destroyer

calibre-ebook.com/download

SwiftPushkar

@AkshayKumarS Yes this Maya is beyond our comprehension. Its really difficult for normal persons like us to fully understand Maya. Only a enlightened person knows about it.

The Destroyer

Select from here.

Pandya

9:18 AM

@TheLittleNaruto right, that's why I'm interested to know whether deva and devi manifestations have Shukshma Sharira which has gender or not.

The Destroyer

Use 64 bit, if you use 64 bit windows

Calibre is open source and ad free

You can use google play books if you are on Android

I generally prefer ebooks

TheLittleNaruto

@Pandya devi is energy accelerator of deva

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer Yeah , and there is good option to convert e-books to other formats also .

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar Yes. But i sync ebooks to all my devices and i like epubs and other mobile formats than pdfs.

Pandya

@TheLittleNaruto do you mean deva is one personality whereas devi is not?

TheLittleNaruto

9:22 AM

Nope

Like a moon can't be separated from moonlight. similarly

They're same

Pandya

you mean devi is the self of deva?

TheLittleNaruto

devi and deva are same

Pandya

then I can also say

@TheLittleNaruto deva is energy accelerator of devi

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer ohh , ok , i will try to do the same , i stopped reading books from smartphone because , my eyes were strained some months back , when i was entirely using mobile for reading , searching and answering , now i mostly use laptop.

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer - Its more than 5 years, so I forgot :((

TheLittleNaruto

9:24 AM

@Pandya Yeah that's fine

Pandya

@TheLittleNaruto Btw, do you consider deva and devi as manifestation of supreme Brahman like Advaita? or they're Jivas like Vishishtadvaita?

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar Ok. I use dark theme mostly. And i read these few pages before sleep in night mode. So, my eyes are not strained.

TheLittleNaruto

@Pandya I am sorry what do you mean by Deva and Devi ? Looks like I misunderstood you

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS What is 'more than 5 years ago'?

Pandya

@TheLittleNaruto ohk. let's start from beginning. :) what are devi and deva according to you.

Akshay Kumar S

9:27 AM

@Pandya Siddha tradition gave me the key to enter spirituality and tantra philosphy of them

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS Use reply button, so that i can understand to which message you are replying.

TheLittleNaruto

@Pandya Again what do you mean by Deva and Devi ?

Pandya

@AkshayKumarS Shiva Siddhanta?

The Destroyer

@TheLittleNaruto Pandya is asking do Deva and Devis have Subtle bodies?

TheLittleNaruto

No idea

Akshay Kumar S

9:27 AM

@TheDestroyer My PC. I dont know about the OS

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer hmm , yes thats a nice option , also my hands were experiencing pain because of holding mobile for long hours , so i completely stopped holding it now , but still mouse gives same trouble 😀 but i am now somehow restricting the usage . at least for few months.

Akshay Kumar S

Windows 7

Pandya

@TheLittleNaruto As I believe in Advaita, they're manifestation of supreme Brahman like Jiva and Jagat.

Akash. B

baby hi

Baby Be'el

@Akash.B That didn't make much sense. Use the help command to learn more.

Pandya

9:29 AM

@TheDestroyer do you have any idea?

The Destroyer

@SwiftPushkar You didn't invoke Ganesha before switching on PC, else Mushika would not have been troubled you 😛

Pandya

baby urban navaratri

The Destroyer

@Pandya I think Devas in Swargaloka have Sukshma Sareera but not sure about trimurthis and their Shaktis

Pandya

@SwiftPushkar oh! take a rest for sometime :)

SwiftPushkar

@TheDestroyer LOL 😁 Yeah , i will do it from tomorrow . 👍🏻

TheLittleNaruto

9:30 AM

baby urban pandya

Baby Be'el

@TheLittleNaruto Kydie [Undertaker Pandya] The best cat in the whole world. We'l always remember your time with us [Kydie]. We [love you] . Kydie [Undertaker] Panj- 1994-2008

Akshay Kumar S

@Pandya I do not know it clearly - Siddha tradition of Tamil Nadu. Agathyar, Bhogar, Thirumoolar, Sivavakiyar

TheLittleNaruto

baby urban navaratri

Ah

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS Use this software

12 mins ago, by The Destroyer

https://calibre-ebook.com/download

SwiftPushkar

@Pandya hmm not that severe but body just started showing acute signs 😀 so better to respond .

TheLittleNaruto

9:31 AM

It could not find any definition for Navaratri in Urban dictionary @Pandya

baby define navaratri

Baby Be'el

@TheLittleNaruto No definition found.

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer Is there no way other than this for downloading Yoga vashishta?

The Destroyer

How can we find Navaratri in urban dictionary

TheLittleNaruto

Grrr

Pandya

@TheDestroyer Hmm. primarily I am interested in knowing about devi Parvati, Amba, Saraswati etc.

Akash. B

9:32 AM

baby wiki navaratri

Pandya

@TheLittleNaruto no-problem.

Baby Be'el

Navaratri

Navaratri (Sanskrit: नवरात्रि, literally "nine nights"), also spelled Navratri or Navarathri, is a nine nights (and ten days) Hindu festival, celebrated in the tamil month of purattasi (17th September to 17th October) every year. It is celebrated differently in various parts of the Indian subcontinent. There are four seasonal Navaratri in a year. This festival in this month is called Sharada Navaratri that is the most celebrated for Goddess Durga.In India, Goddess Durga battles and emerges victorious over the buffalo demon Mahishasuran to help restore Dharma.Celebrations include stage decorations...

TheLittleNaruto

@Akash.B google command is broken, use wiki instead

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS Epub is the only one which i found to be proper version of Yoga Vasista

Akash. B

@TheLittleNaruto okay

The Destroyer

9:33 AM

@Pandya Yoga Vasista says Saraswati is Pure consciousness.

Pandya

@TheDestroyer well, that sounds like equating it with Brahman which can be applicable to others also.

Akash. B

@SwiftPushkar went offline?

The Destroyer

@Pandya Hmm..

Pandya

personal advice qustion : hinduism.stackexchange.com/q/29546/277

vote-to-close

@TheDestroyer I think you got my point.

The Destroyer

@Pandya Yes.

SwiftPushkar

9:36 AM

@Akash.B no i am just finding an answer of @Pandya

The Destroyer

@Pandya I have asked this question when i joined the site

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Q: What bodies (Koshas or layers) do Devas, Trimurthis and their Shaktis (consorts) have?

The two questions What are Five Layers (Pancha Kosha) of Human? and Where does a Soul attached to the Body? explain various koshas (Sheaths) of human body. Trimurthi [Brahma, Narayana (not supreme Vishnu) and Rudra (not Shiva)] and their respective Shaktis are believed to be different aspects of ...

vishnu shiva brahma gods parvati

Pandya

@TheDestroyer nice question +1, bumped to homepage :)

SwiftPushkar

@Pandya - do Deva and Devis have Subtle bodies - See verse 3 , possible answer according to it is yes , previously they were in sukhma form - archive.org/details/AitareyaUpanishadGitaPressGorakhpur/page/…

Akash. B

@NogShine where are you?

@SwiftPushkar oh i see

The Destroyer

@Pandya It edited it to make it better.

Akshay Kumar S

9:40 AM

So one who is eternal alone is free from all bodies?

TheLittleNaruto

@TheDestroyer nice question +1

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS Actually depends on philosophy.

@AkshayKumarS As per Advaita, Niguna Brahman is without form and Lakshana (attributes).

@AkshayKumarS But as per other philosophies, Supreme Brahman has form.

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer Also spiritual bodies dont have subtle bodies ?

Pandya

@SwiftPushkar Hmm. nice found, however this discusses about devatas like Agni, Indra etc. Whereas I want to know about devas and devis we worship today.

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer One thing is for sure - how many human souls are there in this planet = same number of paths available to reach ultimate Parabrahma.

Akash. B

9:43 AM

can I able to know how many times i have incarcerated?

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS Spiritual body is broad term. It is same as Subtle body i think.

@Akash.B lol.. Where?

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer This Nirguna Brahman is what we call as Shiva right as per advaita?

Akash. B

@TheDestroyer where?

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS No. Nirguna Brahman has no name, form. He is just Sat-Chid-Ananda, his Swaroopa

@Akash.B Didn't get.

SwiftPushkar

@Pandya Yes , I think most of the devatas and devas of puranic age is different forms avataras of these Main vedic deities only , so instead of talking to all the upanishads are talking about the structural gods from which the basic building blocks of the creation happened. Like Agni , Vayu etc.

Akshay Kumar S

9:45 AM

@TheDestroyer I think I have to even more engage in Sadhana to find answers from within my soul.

Pandya

@SwiftPushkar Hmm.

Akash. B

@TheDestroyer okay i just meant, can i able to know how many times I was born in the earth?

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS Yes. That's how Rishis found various truths. But it won't come in one day.

Akshay Kumar S

@Akash.B - for sure when you attain Englightment you will know your births

The Destroyer

@Akash.B Ok. I thought you were asking something else. I understood as imprisonment. Didn't understand you meant Samsara,

Akshay Kumar S

9:48 AM

@TheDestroyer Only by supreme's grace, our knots inside are removed. Hopefully everyone here attains Moksha this birth itself. See you guys soon! Time for tea!

Akash. B

@TheDestroyer bhagavad gita

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS ok.

Pandya

@TheDestroyer it may come in a second also! I think

The Destroyer

@Akash.B you can only know it through Yoga.

Me too. Tea break now.

Akash. B

@TheDestroyer had your lunch BTW?

The Destroyer

9:50 AM

@Akash.B Yes.

@AkshayKumarS If you want to read Yoga Vasista in both Sanskrit and English, you can purchase it from here.

Akash. B

@TheDestroyer but you were in the chatroom for 3 to 4 hrs

The Destroyer

exoticindiaart.com/book/details/…

@AkshayKumarS This is not available as pdf or softcopy. So, no other choice for ebooks enthusiasts like me.

Akash. B

okay everyone let's get some tea

The Destroyer

2 hours ago, by The Destroyer

@RubelliteYakṣī Hamsa Hamsas talked this riding other Hamsas Hamsa time seeing other hamsa Hamsas. used both semitic and Sanskrit Hamsas

Pandya

@Akash.B ok. Thanks in advance we're waiting for tea from you! :) Haha

The Destroyer

9:54 AM

There's time gap after this message to my next message. In that gap, i had my lunch. 😀

@Pandya Haha.

Pandya

Btw, is it possible to transfer file from Andrioid phone to PC while USB Tethering is running on the PC? @TheDestroyer @TheLittleNaruto

The Destroyer

@Pandya Select "USB file transfer"

@Pandya should be possible from Android 4 or above i guess. Not sure in which version it was introduced. But definitely possible now with all phones.

Pandya

@TheDestroyer let me clear there are several ways 1. Charging only, 2. Turn on USB storage, 3. MTP

The Destroyer

@Pandya 2.

Pandya

but when you active usb tethering phone will be set on 1. only 2 and 3 not possible

The Destroyer

10:00 AM

is there File transfer option?

Which Android version are you using?

Pandya

6.0.1

The Destroyer

@Pandya click on that notification. You will get other options.

Pandya

@TheDestroyer yes, I know you can set USB storage or MTP and both will work for transferring files

The Destroyer

@Pandya MTP only for DCIM photos if my guess is correct.

SwiftPushkar

@Pandya if the file is small use bluetooth also .

Pandya

10:06 AM

@TheDestroyer MTP can work for any type file transfer

4 mins ago, by Pandya

@TheDestroyer yes, I know you can set USB storage or MTP and both will work for transferring files

do you know about usb tethering?

it's transferring internet of phone to PC with cable.

The Destroyer

@Pandya This is to get internet from mobile to PC like hotspot

Pandya

and when you start it, you will loss connectivity of USB storage or MTP.

The Destroyer

@Pandya Yes.

Pandya

so, you'll not be able to use usb-storage/mtp simultaneously with usb-tethering

so, I want to know even is it possible to transfer file using usb-tethering?

SwiftPushkar

@Pandya No only one option at a time , i was using tethering previously , butt now i use phone hotspot.

Pandya

10:11 AM

@SwiftPushkar ohk. right now I'm on desktop PC which doesn't have bluetooth or wifi. So, the only option is to break internet and transfer file. That's why I was searching for a trick !

SwiftPushkar

@Pandya ohh , ok so use MTP , its the quickest method .

Pandya

10:33 AM

Ah! just found that usb-tethering means hot-spot is already running so you can transfer files in similar way we use xender or share via http :)

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer - WHERE IS THIS PURCHASE SITE? exoticindiaart.com/book/details/…

How to place order

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS This is Indian site only. Add to cart and do it. But prices here are slightly high when compared to Amazon and FlipKart. But only this site has this book.

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer For 4 volumes 3000? Indian site. Where it is?

SwiftPushkar

Do you people distribute Apata leaves as gold today ?

Significance of Marigold flower during Navratri ?🏵️

Pandya

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A: Would it be a good idea to hold community events on festivals?

UPDATE: A Navaratri chat event for this year was planned and scheduled today from 10 AM to 1 PM (IST) on Hinduism which is deemed effective -- more than 10+ users actively participated for more than three hours :) You can find transcript for 18 Oct. 2018 Note: From previous event we found ou...

well done!

The Destroyer

10:43 AM

@AkshayKumarS Don't know from where it operates.

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer for 4 volumes 3000?

SwiftPushkar

@Pandya Yup already +1 frm. me And update is marvelous.

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS hmm..Costly.I know.

But this is hard cover and 6k plus pages, not paperback

Akshay Kumar S

@TheDestroyer - thanks will do it. But can you shortly say that to attain Atman Gyana, how should we lead a life in current scenario?

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS I'm not experienced in this. I can't give any suggestions.

Akshay Kumar S

10:47 AM

Sorry I should have been clear. From what you read in Yoga vashishta @TheDestroyer

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS I am reading English translation (the ebook version). But will buy this Sanskrit and English version after some days.

@AkshayKumarS I'm just reading and understanding and even trying to practice it. (i can't say my personal practices as it is never recommended).

SwiftPushkar

BTW it's time to switch to offline mode .. BYE for today .. TC , we will plan about upcoming diwali chat event :-) Stay Tuned.

The Destroyer

Me too.

@AkshayKumarS There are 4 steps given in Yoga Vasista

Akshay Kumar S

Oww. @TheDestroyer . Thanks. Will see to it. I was asking more from Yoga vashihsta and not personal practices because whatever experience we gain we should never reveal it!

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS Vasishta states that peace of mind (shanti), contentment (santosha), keeping the company of realized sages (satsanga), and inquiry into the nature of the soul (vichara) are the four sentinels that guard the gates to moksha, or liberation.

Book 2 explains these 4 steps in detail.

Akshay Kumar S

10:59 AM

@TheDestroyer - thanks for your explanation. Will look at this in detail. Will see you again soon! Time for offline! Bye for today. And if possible try to find source of answer for my question!

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Q: What is the source of Sat Chit Ananda Moola mantra?

|| Aum Sat Chit Ananda Parabrahma Purushothama Paramatma Sri Bhagavati Sametha Sri Bhagavate Namaha || What's the source of this Mantra?

mantras identification-request

The Destroyer

@AkshayKumarS ok. Bye

Hinduism bot

12:27 PM

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Q: Why does Ayyappan give darshan in this sitting form?

Why does Ayyappan give darshan in this sitting form? It is not complete sit also.

vishnu ayyappa

Hinduism bot

1:45 PM

0

Q: Can you provide quotes from scriptures which equate Lord Narayana with the Param Brahman or Supreme God?

Please provide quotations with translation.

vishnu vaishnavism

Pandya

@TheDestroyer do you know why is it considered Dussehra today and not tomorrow?

Hinduism bot

2:17 PM

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Q: Why have we celebrated Dussehra today instead of tommorw?

Whatever I know for consideration of Tithi from Panchangam is whichever Tithi falls on the sunrise, that is considered for whole the day. For example, yesterday there was Ashtami on sunrise and Ashtami Tithi holded upto 12:50 pm, after then Navami is started. Since there was Ashtami on sunrise, ...

panchang navrathri

TheLittleNaruto

3:48 PM

@Pandya dussehra is tomorrow. You got wrong information from wherever you get it.

Pandya

4:02 PM

@TheLittleNaruto chat.stackexchange.com/…

Govt. also considerd Dussehra holiday today

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