@security_paranoid depends on your interpretation of fair use

@JourneymanGeek that's fair, but in this case it probably depends on whether they care. seeing as they've put the effort and time in and not me or you.

@security_paranoid the thing is - large companies have a more liberal idea of fair use for themselves than us sometimes, and it depends if you're a content aggregator or consumer

Its almost certainly copyright infringement and unethical tho

that's a good point, I agree.

It's like, what do personally think of the SO OpenAI shemozzle? I've seen your opinions on Meta but if I'm being completely honest it doesn't bother me. That's not to say I don't understand why plenty of people are angry, I'm just not myself.

i know it's a bit controversial to say such, but it just doesn't worry me, at least at the moment.

call me a Luddite... I don't like AI, don't buy anything "ai-enhanced", don't like companies using ai for anything, and don't want ai to use anything I created for anything at all.

@ThoriumBR yah, I hear you ... but take the word "AI" and replace it with "Google" and go back 15 years ... how screwed are you?

Learning the ins and outs of AI now is akin to learning google foo 15 years ago

you dont have to like it ... but there is something to be said about know thy enemy

no, it's different... companies didn't used google to declare you a health risk to deny your claims, nor used google-powered surveillance cameras to tell you got involved in a crime while staying 200km away, 20 minutes later

ai usage by people isn't the issue, but ai usage by companies where you have no recourse because "computers don't lie"

the internet is already filled with ai trash, ai music, ai news reports... I prefer badly written text written by a fellow human than perfect text generated by ai

Asimov wrote 70 years ago about people building robots that built robots that built robots to a degree that we didn't had any idea what the robots were thinking and no way to steer society around because robots made all decisions up to a point that disobeying wasn't even possible anymore, and robots decided how we would live.

when I read it 20 years ago it felt fiction, now it feels more or less inevitable

ai already trades stocks, and that makes and breaks companies. ai decides what people will read, listen and watch, and that changes the entire worldview for the entire population. ai writes software, novels, reports, and people are more expensive so they get pushed aside

@ThoriumBR I'm speaking at a data and ethics event next week on AI risks that impact the financial sector - and one of those is around AI that decides services/products. Especially for vulnerable customers. In the old world we could audit any model to understand its decision making, and attest to its fairness. With AI... that isn't going to be possible

@RoryAlsop That's a big issue I have with companies using AI to decide on human fate: as soon as AI decided, it's decided...

my company have ai usage policy that states "no ai output should be sent to anyone", but I doubt everyone always get ai output and rewrites it... they will start doing so, but start just relying on ai for everything

like the autopilot on cars: people start trusting them too much until they don't even drive anymore but let the autopilot do all the driving. people start using ai too much and end up leaving ai doing all the thinking.