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4:11 AM
@TomK. Isn't Tianocore already open source? Why have another?
Not to mention, UEFI is repulsive anyway.
@jdgregson Report it to a public mailing list if they do not respond promptly and with full cooperation. If it's on a government website however, don't disclose it, use it.
@daya Hey, there are a lot of people who know more about ACPI than I do! Someone had to write the horrific 1,000+ page spec, after all!
 
4:45 AM
@forest The website is for the Department of Business and Professional Regulation. So although it is a government owned and operated website, it's pretty much the most boring department imaginable.
 
 
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6:02 AM
I fail to see exactly why this is so bad that it resulted in IPS being blacklisted from HNQ.
I mean IPS has some of the most stupid questions ever, but it doesn't seem upsetting in the least. It's not crude, offensive, vulgar, obscene...
Are we such puritans now that having two questions related to sexuality or flirting in a row is suddenly a big deal? Have we really fallen down to that level?
 
6:52 AM
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A: Is the practice of "security through obscurity" violating Kerckhoffs's second principle?

Paul UszakNo. Kerckhoffs no longer applies to any significant degree. Auguste Kerckhoffs' principles were fashioned in 1883. That's yonks ago. Cryptography was not much more advanced that tattooing the message on people's heads. You can see exactly the level of complexity he was dealing with in the ori...

In case anyone on Crypto.SE wants the opportunity to add their downvote to a hilariously bad answer promoting security through obscurity.
 
 
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8:03 AM
@forest Oh noes, IPS got blacklisted? :(
 
Anonymous
@forest Why can't I downvote twice?
 
Anonymous
@forest Wait what happened with the IPS thing? :O
 
9:27 AM
Someone took umbrage at having IPS questions (some of which may be nsfw) popping up in the HNQ box while they were on SO
It got Twittered, and a CM saw an easy fix and pulled it from hnq
 
Anonymous
I see.
 
Then everyone kicked off at this being done without any community consultation
Much ado about nothing, IMO. I'd have Sec questions blocked from hnq if I could
 
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Q: What caused this site to be excluded from Hot Network Questions?

gparyaniRecently, the Stack Exchange team made the decision to exclude this site from the Hot Network questions on the right sidebar of questions across the network and on the stackexchange.com homepage. Why was this decision made? Were question titles on this site too inappropriate? Can we please get f...

What bugs me is that the tweet that @forest linked has only ~40 likes, was it really enough to trigger a site exclusion?
 
Anonymous
Was the students flirting question what kicked all this off? But it's such a tame title! – curiousdannii ↵ 8 hours ago
@curiousdannii No, it was only a partial cause. This was clear in chat, and I made no judgments about why it would be kicked off. – gparyani ↵ 8 hours ago ...?
 
Anonymous
So it wasnt all because of the Q?
 
9:38 AM
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A: The Memes of Arqade and its Chat

Raven DreamerMeme: Questions that are absurd without context Originator: Various Cultural Height: As Often as Possible Background: How can I get my wife to stop nagging about a few murders? fable-3 Can I pass out from excessive drinking? bioshock How can I tell if a corpse is safe to eat? nethack How c...

 
all this .. is.. weird
 
Anonymous
^
 
Anonymous
Wait, you mean the HNQ thing?
 
yeah
what else?
 
Anonymous
:p
 
9:48 AM
:s
I really don't understand why people get so hyped up about this stuff
 
Anonymous
I got enough of my own drama to be involved in drama, lol.
 
Anonymous
I hate drama.
 
I loved seeing IPS in HNQ :(
 
to read cheesy weirdo questions?
 
@BenoitEsnard there's a conversation going on on meta and elsewhere
 
9:50 AM
@JMG I think that's why Benoit linked to the memes of Arqade
 
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Q: Revisiting the "Hot Network Questions" feature, what are our shared goals for having it?

Tim PostSome things happened yesterday that caused a need for us to (quickly) remove a site's eligibility to contribute to the list of hot network questions. For those of you not familiar with what we've come to call the 'HNQ' list, please visit the link; the list of questions shown as 'hot' on stackexch...

 
 
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12:52 PM
Probably unpopular, but I think there should be mechanism to independently vote questions towards HNQ
 
I love the way HNQ works tbh
 
@Arminius apparently it's too expensive performance wise
 
1:45 PM
I find no positive value in HNQ, whatsoever.
And a lot of negatives
It was vaguely funny working out how to game it, but since then it's generally a tide of scum that occasionally washes up on our beach
 
2:00 PM
Well, I think HNQ is great to find new SE sites
 
it probably would be good to have periodic votes for whether to have HNQs on for a particular site though so that the community of each site could decide if it is worth it. It's good for site growth, but not so good for site quality
 
2:45 PM
I think that displaying content from other sites of the network does a lot for making SE feel like a larger community, not just isolated sites. So although HNQ is potentially distracting and fundamentally broken, I wouldn't want to give up on the idea entirely
 
 
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8:23 PM
@JourneymanGeek I find it hard to image what's so expensive about that
 
8:38 PM
@Arminius I'm not sure that would do much anyway since then it would never popularize questions from small sites that lack sufficient users
you could possibly scale it with the number of site users somehow, but that has the potential to cause problems too
because it would then be abusable
it might be interesting to do some kind of tiered thing where high rep users ended up getting kind of a HNQ beta and had to vote on questions to include in HNQ
could be interesting if it required certain rep levels on multiple sites
something to encourage/reward people to participate in more than one site
 
Well, it's already being normalized to the advantage of smaller sites, so I don't see a larger abuse potential than it is now
Letting higher-rep users vote something to HNQ is sort of what I had in mind
Either way I think HNQ can only work if it's done manually and explicitly
That is, actual users deciding if something should go to HNQ independent of their upvote or algorithms
 

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