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Duga
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12:00 AM
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QHarr
QHarr
6:16 AM
Helloooo..... I was just reading this answer and it mentioned being to access pointers via Shlwapi.dll . Referenced reading was Not So Lightweight Anyone used this? Worth looking into?
 
Duga
Duga
6:27 AM
> UnreachableCaseInspection Overview

**100,000ft view:**
1. Acquire/Inspect all `SelectStmtContexts` in the VBA application
2. Walk/Parse through all descendants of a `SelectStmtContext` to determine:
a. The 'Type' of the Select Case Expression (`SelectExpressionContext`)
b. Determine the concrete value for every `RangeClauseContext `in a `CaseClauseContext`
1)Some `RangeClauseContexts` cannot be resolved to a value and are stored as variable `RangeExpressions`
3. Add each `RangeExp
 
Duga
Duga
7:04 AM
> @MDoerner

> The full version of your code is
>
> `Sheet1.Cells(1,1).Value = 1`

The more I consider this, the more it makes sense. Perhaps it's not a bug in the inspection, but instead the inspection needs to say to use the `value` property if you aren't assigning a range to a range.
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
7:30 AM
@Duga Why is that repo posted to here?
 
Duga
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QHarr
QHarr
8:25 AM
I don't know why I am surprised but I just read that MSHTML uses Internet Exploder in the background. I guess I never gave it enough thought.
 
Duga
Duga
8:50 AM
> This is a resolver bug. The problem is that the resolver did not recognize the default member access. Otherwise, you would have seen a corresponding inspection result.

This should be fixed for a while now. Unfortunately, you are using a version where the displayed version number is not correct. So I cannot say whether the PR that should have fixed this bug came in before or after this version.
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
@Vogel612 I think Duga always posts status reports for all repositories she is hooked up to. It is just that RD is way more active than all the others.
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
hmm ...
that would make sense, yes.
 
Duga
Duga
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
@Duga you might be able to extrapolate from issuedate and date of the PR
 
Duga
Duga
9:37 AM
> Thank you very much for the overview. Reading it and having a very short look at the code, three things immediately came to my mind:

1. Are you aware that there has already been an expression evaluation engine in the preprocessor? It seems to implement the derivation a bit closer to the VBA specification, but also does not fully get it right.
2. The `ParseTreeExoressionEvaluator` seems to treat all arithmetic operators as operators between `double` variables. This is problematic because VB
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
9:50 AM
Well hello, long time no see. I was wondering about the .NET 4.6 requirement. Why is it needed ?
I'm running a non-SP1 version of Win7 and it means I cannot use .NET 4.6 afaik
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
@this ^
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
10:12 AM
@FlorentUguet the 4.6 requirement was introduced for custom code-analysis features IIRC
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
10:27 AM
Ah, okay
Thanks for the info
Which was the last version until that was added to the project ? That way I can have the very last RD version for that computer
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
that's quite a while back...
but the /releases/latest should be clean.
soo ... 2.2.0 should be good to go
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
10:44 AM
The About page of RD should be reworked (if it hasn't been yet) because it doesn't show the right build number. here, it reports 2.2.6683.21338. The latest release is 2.2.0.3439. The numbering should match I think
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
10:57 AM
@FlorentUguet Could you please tell me what version number the splash screen shows atm?
I guess it also shows the wrong number, now.
PR tried to fix this bug, but apparently it rather broke it harder.
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
Let me see
2.2.0.3129
Splash screen seems fine
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
PR #4079 tried to fix this bug, but apparently it rather broke it harder.
Hm
Wait, from your comment I inferred that you were on the last build.
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
I am not
Because I don't have .NET 4.6
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
The about box should be fixed in the last few versions.
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
I'll see once my company allows me to upgrade to a more recent Windows version
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
11:21 AM
Or to install a more recent .net runtime.
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
I cannot install .NET 4.6
It requires Windows 7 SP1 minimum
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
Oh, I see. That is a problem.
@MathieuGuindon @this When doing the switch to 4.6 you stated that we would still be compatible with Vista and later. That is not exactly true. We lost compatibility with vanilla Windows 7.
Hm, we never supported vanilla Vista and Vista SP1 because we used 4.5.
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
11:36 AM
@M.Doerner correct, we stopped supporting Vanilla Vista the same time we dropped support for office 2000 or maybe even 2004?
Considering that Windows 7 is EOL'd I think this is reasonable
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
Windows 7 SP1 is also pretty common, you can safely assume "Vanilla" 7 is supported
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
Well, as you can see above, we have users on vanilla Windows 7.
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
This is the first computer I ever see that runs Non-SP1 32-bit Win7
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
Isn't running that actually a security issue?
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
I actually reported that to IT multiple times
So it's not my problem anymore. There are official reports from me, so I'm not responsible if an issue arises. IT chose to keep an outdated computer on the company's network
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
11:41 AM
FWIW at this point that's pretty close to malicious negligence to run a vanilla win 7 machine in a corporate network
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
And that's stuff I already reported. But IT doesn't seem to care
We don't have spare computers or Windows licenses anyway
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
how long have you been working on that device?
and is your company more than 50 people strong?
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
6 months. I know it is in the company since 2011 (there's a time stamp indicating when it was installed)
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
~shudder
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
I only use it for Office work (Word/Excel/Access). Most of my work is on off-network computers
Probably why they don't care that much anyway
 
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11:57 AM
I did not realize that 4.6 would not work on Windows 7 - When we reviewed the requirement we were more concerned with maintaining the current level of compatibility and I mistaken thought that if it's still supported in Vista (as we used to w/ 4.5) that nothing would change.
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
And yeah, my company here has ~100 people, but the group itself (the network we run on) has idk, 10k people or something, maybe 20-30k
 
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That said, I'm scared that there still are RTM Win7 out there. That is also the OS where the ADO is horribly horribly broken that it cannot be shared in an environment with different OSes.
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
What is ADO used for ?
 
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it's one of the data access libraries that can be used in various Office program, mainly in Access and Excel
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
Oh, like DAO ?
 
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11:59 AM
Yes, DAO is another data access library
they have some overlaps but there are also differences.
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
That I know, that's what I still use, I didn't see what ADO had to offer compared to DAO
 
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Probably why you didn't notice then.
If you had used ADO, you would have had problems sharing the file w/ others if they weren't on same Win 7
The ADO fiasco was a huge deal back then. Lot of angry customers railing on MSFT.
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
That's also why you should use experimental technologies at your own risk
Or at least, in a company, try them before using them
I can understand they get angry, but it wouldn't be the first unstable library/feature
 
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No, it's not like that at all.
ADO has been shipped w/ Windows for a while. Probably since Windows XP. 2000?
 
Florent Uguet
Florent Uguet
Oh, damn
 
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12:03 PM
So it is decidedly not experimental and there is an expectation to keep backward compatibility.
 
Son Goku ssj4
Son Goku ssj4
Hi folks. So... 144 lines to do to complete Czech Translations.
I've noticed that you're planning to release a stable official version? When is that? Could that include this translation? Or should I work at it for the next official release. I can have it done by the end of week. I hope. :-)
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
@SonGokussj4 the release is planned for July
so if you're finishing up, we can definitely put that in the next stable release
 
Son Goku ssj4
Son Goku ssj4
12:28 PM
Nice. So I will have some time to test it too.
 
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@M.Doerner I would like to close off the busy state PR. Do you think we can get that addressed by end of the week?
 
Son Goku ssj4
Son Goku ssj4
It's quite complicated... Not as easy as I thought it will be. Many expressions don't have "Czech" alternatives... Or they have but I don't know about them. For example 'Property'... :) Or 'Case' or 'Accessor'...
 
Inarion
Inarion
12:44 PM
What the actual f*ck.
So there is an EU committee, that regulates vehicle emissions and whatnot. And they task a person who is totally not capable of accomplishing anything remotely coding-related with programming a gearshift calculator (to mirror some long-ish laws regarding the topic). And this person then delivers a kind of simulator, that runs in ACCESS. WTF?
Now (and has been for years) the official, approved-by-the-EU tool is a calculator in Access, that defies about every rule about programming that we know about. This codebase is absolutely atrocious. My VBA compiler just surrendered with a plain Procedure too large.
 
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A simulator as in providing visual rendering of gearshift?
 
Inarion
Inarion
The procedure in question has 4169 LOC...
Oh, a link if anyone is interested in losing their sanity here and now: wiki.unece.org/display/trans/Gearshift+calculation+tool
The WLTP_GS_calculation_29052018.zip contains a .mdb that seems to be the root of all evil.
Also, I seem to have a slightly older version here. There were complaints about runtime errors (due to a slightly too large procedure), and so they seem to have "patched" this specific problem.
 
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The fact that they wrote a 4000 line procedure is a major problem in itself. I also don't understand why they would use Access if it's meant to be used by the public. Not everyone has an Access license.
 
Inarion
Inarion
1:04 PM
Some highlights: No indentation over several nested ifs; many variables implicitly Variant; Option Explicit is completely absent (I presume it has left for a nicer place), in consequence more than 1000 variables are assigned without being declared. About 20k LOC, of which 17.7k reside within one module.
Also: 
For i = 1 To 1

rstae.MoveNext

Next i
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
@Inarion now I wonder what would happen if somebody went ahead and ran RD on that behemoth of a mess
 
Inarion
Inarion
Neat, huh?
 
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@Inarion huh?
 
Inarion
Inarion
@Vogel612 Guess what I just did. :P
 
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@Inarion did the duck commit hari-kari?
 
Inarion
Inarion
1:06 PM
@this This kind of idiocy is about everywhere in this monster.
@this Actually, no. I think the duck is tougher than one would think.
 
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Nice!
I would, though.
 
Duga
Duga
 
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probably go back and tell them, "let's write a new application. It's cheaper than fixing this."
 
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Inarion
Inarion
About 20 cases of Stop used. 1073 cases of Variable used but not assigned. 774 cases of Undeclared variable. 1780 cases of Variable is not assigned. And finally 1574 cases of Variable is not referred to.
Yet somehow it seems to produce correct/acceptable results (or so I've been told).
 
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1:11 PM
Unfortunately, those only scratch the surface. Even if we "Fix All Occurrences", it'll still be awful.
@Inarion I'm sure it's because it was written by a genius.
 
Duga
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Inarion
Inarion
@this That is the only plausible explanation. Us mere mortals, we are to far below him to even begin to understand the extent of his brilliant mind.
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
the fine line between genius and madness, I guess
 
Duga
Duga
 
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and hence why when I see such code by a genius, rewrite is what I usually want to suggest.
 
Inarion
Inarion
1:15 PM
He seems to be using tables instead of arrays. As far as I can tell. (Disclaimer: I am no genius.)
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
welp ...
 
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tables as in recordsets?
 
Vogel612
Vogel612
1.7k files changed... 260k insertions, 239k deletions.
not sure I'm actually doing stuff right -.-
 
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what are you trying to do? remove whitespaces entirely from the project? :p
 
Inarion
Inarion
Running this calculation in the runtime version of Access will bombard the unsuspecting user with several dozens of "Do you want to execute this action query?"-like dialogs. "This action will affect 982 records, do you want to continue?"
 
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this
1:19 PM
lol didn't even bother w/ DoCmd.SetWarnings (which in itself is a huge code smell)
at least he's using queries, instead of recordsets.
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
I bet the only reason this is found to be working correctly is because nobody bothered to write comprehensive acceptance tests.
 
Duga
Duga
 
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1:34 PM
@Duga To clarify I was thinking of only executing the state change inside the write lock only when the conditions are met; if they are not met, exit the write lock and go into the if statement, albeit without the final else clause.
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
1:46 PM
Hm, that should work: evaluate whether there is something on the stack and evaluate the parser state in case nothing is there; then release the write lock followed be requesting the parse in case something has been on the stack.
 
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so you think the EvaluateOverallParserState should be also evaluated inside the write lock, not outside as well?
that only is executed if the originalStatus is any other state other than Ready
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
You could actually handle both cases via the evaluation.
 
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I see. I shall simplify then.
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
Why should we put it explicitly into the Ready state although some module state no longer reflects that?
 
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My intention was to avoid any potential side effects when we enter a busy state from Ready -- it should not effect anything else when we exit the busy and return immediately to Ready.
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
1:52 PM
Not triggering the inspections would be good, but I think that can be a later enhancement.
 
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but when we enter busy state from say... ResolvedDeclarations or something, then we must have the side effects because I have no idea how I would tell it to resume.
Alright.
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
The thing is that setting the module state to Ready has the same effect as evaluating it to Ready.
In case we are in the ready state although this is not reflected by the individual states, something has gone wrong already.
 
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and regarding the comment about Cancel() just to see I understood the reason why --- it's because we are now funneling everything through to the BeginParse/ParseAll which already does Cancel() but inside the suspension read lock, all other methods no longer need to perform the Cancel(); just invoking BeginParse is eough, right?
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
Yes, the token provided from ParseRequested gets canceled later and is never used.
Do we have a way for a busy action to indicate the states it can run in?
 
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I saw that now with one method. The reparse method's Cancel() was from the original code still so I had to think about that more to make sure I wouldn't break the original behavior there.
Well, I decided that's busy requestor's responsibility.
the suspension itself does not care what state it is; only that it will accept the request and execute it and clean up.
in this case, the test engine has to provide the decision whether we will enter the busy action
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
2:00 PM
That is a small problem because the state can have changed while waiting for the write lock.
 
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Hmm. I see.
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
If a parse is running and fails, the action will run in an error state.
 
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and we don't want to run tests then. Yeah.
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
The action itself cannot check it, because the state will be Busy.
 
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Well, the event args for the suspend has a declined argument. I can enhance it so that the requestor will provide an array of allowed parser states.
and immediately after entering the write lock, check the allowed parser states against current parser state from the requestor and determine if we can continue or not.
if we cannot, we report back declination
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
2:03 PM
That sounds sensible.
 
Duga
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@Duga reminder to myself so I will address that as well. Thanks!
 
 
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spinjector
spinjector
3:16 PM
Can the 'Search Results' window for 'Find All References' be re-opened without triggering another search..? It remembers the results of the last search, and so each time it's re-opened, it adds a new tab, even if it's the same search. One can of course can close the extra tabs, but a keystroke to re-open the window would be tres convenient.
 
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^ yet another case for a tabbed window.
IMO, closing/opening just feels wrong.
@M.Doerner this comment is now a lie: 
// Do not access this from anywhere but ReparseRequested.
// ReparseRequested needs to have a reference to the cancellation token.
protected CancellationTokenSource _currentCancellationTokenSource = new CancellationTokenSource();
ATM, we read its .Token from ParseAll or ParseInternal code paths. This is just fine, right? I will update comment accordingly unless there's some other assumption that might have been violated. (it is also set in few more places as well).
 
spinjector
spinjector
3:34 PM
I do like the tabbed window, though. It serves as a sort of intelligent bookmark list. It;s quite useful when I'm jumping between procedures in a module.
 
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IMPOV, those tool windows, including the search results work better when they are in a tabbed window, similar to the one we have on the VS.
otherwise, the screen gets too cluttered - it does not make much sense to dock them all to the sides, and managing free floating windows is a giant PITA.
 
spinjector
spinjector
I agree. But until I get one of those delicious looking 3840x1080 curved widescreen monitors to hold all these tabbed windows (which I truly want to do), I have limited screen real estate. So I have to make do with Ctrl+Tab and opening/closing windows a lot. =-)
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
@spinjector They mean a sort of collapsible list of tabs at the bottom of the VBE
You can click those tabs to open it up.
Guess which programs I have on my dock.
 
spinjector
spinjector
3:57 PM
Ahh ok. Doesn't Visual Studio have that? And Eclipse?
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
That's what we want for the VBE.
Yep.
That's what @this was referring to.
 
spinjector
spinjector
Gotcha. <thumbup>
 
Duga
Duga
4:34 PM
> I think this was fixed but I don't know when. In my settings I see that redundant 'ByRef' is set to "Do Not Show" and "Implicit ByRef parameter" is set to "Hint". If those are the default settings then this issue can be closed.
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
5:34 PM
TIL, I'll know when I find my true love because she'll never get cold.
I guess I should go looking near the equator :P
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
5:51 PM
@this Reading article right now. What does "downlevel OSes" mean? Those operating systems that consumed the newer compiled code?
 
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yes. as in I developed it on Win 7, and distributed to users on Win XP.
however, IIRC, the effects were worse than that. It also meant that as soon as the vBA code gets re-compiled on Win7, it never can be used anywhere but on Win7.
 
Duga
Duga
> @MDoerner Thank you for taking the time to _work_ through the overview.

Regarding 1. Looks like I am guilty of reinventing the wheel a bit (...OK...a lot) here. I looked for inspections and other support code that did what I needed/wanted to do....but missed this body of code completely. Stopped looking and never went back. Ugh.
Regarding 2. Yes, the currently implemented math for VBA Currency would lose some accuracy. I'll revisit the handling of the `Currency` type.
Regarding 3. T
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
6:20 PM
Oh my...
 
Duga
Duga
> IMO, the merging of expression evaluation engine should happen -- there's an issue for it already (#3969 ) but this is a large project in itself and thus must be its own PR. For that reason, I prefer the 2nd option. As noted in the linked issue, there are some difference and we need to merge the best parts from each engine. I'd rather use the improved version as the base for the merging.
 
Quack Exchange
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Q: VBA procedure too large - how can I resolve?

RobbyI have this set up in a userform. It's too much code for a single Sub, but I'm not sure how I can make it any smaller or break it up. Private Sub UserForm_Activate() Dim LastRow As Integer LastRow = ActiveSheet.Cells(Rows.Count, 1).End(xlUp).Row Dim B_academy As Long, B_alice As Long, B_american...

vba excel
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
6:32 PM
:barf: I wish things were set up differently. Much copy paste check/re-checking...
Follow the Ronco model "Set it [up properly], and forget it!"
 
 
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Duga
Duga
8:12 PM
> I very much prefer option 2. Using a combined evaluation engine would be nice. However, this PR improves more parts of the inspection. In particular, the range and filter handling gets improved, which will not be part of the expression evaluation engine.

Moreover, the expression evaluation from the preprocessor will also need some improvements because some operations depend both on the value type and the declared type; the latter is missing atm.

I will have a look at the current PR in th
> I very much prefer option 2. Using a combined evaluation engine would be nice. However, this PR improves more parts of the inspection. In particular, the range and filter handling gets improved, which will not be part of the expression evaluation engine.

Moreover, the expression evaluation from the preprocessor will also need some improvements because some operations depend both on the value type and the declared type; the latter is missing atm.

I will have a look at the current PR in th
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
9:04 PM
The layout and everything went all wonky.
@this Did your Slack app just break?
 
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no but my Azure VM did. Whee!
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
I blame Mr. Kim.
LOL.
 
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well, only his haircut could give chunk of silicons terror.
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
LOL.
 
Duga
Duga
9:19 PM
> # [Codecov](https://codecov.io/gh/rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck/pull/4131?src=pr&el=h1) Report
> Merging [#4131](https://codecov.io/gh/rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck/pull/4131?src=pr&el=desc) into [next](https://codecov.io/gh/rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck/commit/b20482c9979f3d0b123900ff3c9dceb154ddda45?src=pr&el=desc) will **decrease** coverage by `0.07%`.
> The diff coverage is `0%`.


```diff
@@ Coverage Diff @@
## next #4131 +/- ##
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Duga
Duga
9:34 PM
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] build for commit f0b70989 on unknown branch: AppVeyor build succeeded
> # [Codecov](https://codecov.io/gh/rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck/pull/4131?src=pr&el=h1) Report
> Merging [#4131](https://codecov.io/gh/rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck/pull/4131?src=pr&el=desc) into [next](https://codecov.io/gh/rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck/commit/b20482c9979f3d0b123900ff3c9dceb154ddda45?src=pr&el=desc) will **decrease** coverage by `0.07%`.
> The diff coverage is `0%`.


```diff
@@ Coverage Diff @@
## next #4131 +/- ##
===========================
[rubberduck-vba/Rubberduck] build for commit f0b70989 on unknown branch: 52.48% (target 0%)
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
10:08 PM
Duck check: I just had "robotic process automation" RPA thrown at me as a "research this" task. Does anyone have any experience with it?
 
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well always a first for me. I got an SQL error about mismatch in column count between the insert list and select list. After putting it in the excel side by side, I verified there were exactly same amount of column enumerated in each list. </stumped> Time for a beer.
@IvenBach are you sure it's not just a buzzword spewed by an army of PHBs? ;-)
(never heard of that. only have some vague general notions. Need context)
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
I try not to poo poo on anything I'm unaware of.
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
@this any duplicates?
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
From the 20 mins of reading so far its the "Robots coming for your jobs" stuff.
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
@IvenBach I think that's a Japanese thing, like just-in-time manufacturing
 
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10:12 PM
Nope, @ThunderFrame. I used Script As to build the INSERT list and again for SELECT.
after having had that beer and a night's worth of sleep, I'm sure I'll go "doh" tomorrow morning.
@IvenBach might be just me but lately I feel they're just using new words to make old things new again. Nothing new under the sun.
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
I'm of the opinion that only so much can be automated. After that, one's just guessing. And watch out for blind acceptance of stuff one doesn't understand.
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
@this. Congratulations, you made RD beat VSCode to admin free installation
3
 
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I didn't even know that VSCode used to require admin installation.
 
ThunderFrame
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and besides, I'm sure VSCode didn't have to deal w/ the COM registration and being an addin to some program.
 
ThunderFrame
ThunderFrame
10:39 PM
@this all the more impressive that RD got there first
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
10:58 PM
I wonder if any of our German acquaintances are around.
I'm trying to get a CD from an Austrian group, and they sent me this email: 
Bitte um Überweisung von insgesamt 21,50 Euro
(1 x 15,- Euro, zzgl. 6,5 Euro Versandspesen)

auf nachstehendes Konto:
VKB Bank Gmunden
lautend auf: Johann Ortner
IBAN:  AT571860000112041984
BIC:  VKBLAT2L
I get the 21.5 Euros price, I'm just not sure how the international transfer would work with the bank.
Maybe I should ask if they have PayPal instead.
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
Tell them you are an American and demand they speak English to you.
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
I'm not that arrogant, LOL.
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
I honestly don't know how an international bank transfer from outside the EU works. However, I can tell you what the different positions mean.
The first one is the name of the bank.
The second one the account owner
The IBAN is the account identifier, which is unique inside the EU. (Note the AT for Austria.)
The BIC is the identifier of the bank, also unique within the EU.
 
Hosch250
Hosch250
11:16 PM
Thanks.
 
IvenBach
IvenBach
@this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robotic_process_automation so old stuff in a new suit. Using the GUI in place of API calls.
 
M.Doerner
M.Doerner
Btw, you are right about the price. It is €21.5 (€15 for the CD and €6.5 for packaging and transport).
 
Tweeting Duck
Tweeting Duck
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