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01:03
@PrinceNorthLæraðr think there were 2 total in 2023, and 1 so far this year... so i definitely wouldn't call them as much a 'thing' as they were a few years ago
@Sphinx it's spelt 'placido domingo'
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@Jafe Whew, that's a relief
 
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02:29
My beginning was by Riley and pleasant. My middle was overly pervasive and of low quality. My end is nowish, it seems.
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03:49
@MOehm this is REARRANGING THE DECKCHAIRS (on the Titanic, an idiom for doing something pointless) which yields SCRATCHEDHIKE* in cryptic-speak
Oooh nice solve
@msh210 Yeah the original Riley Riddle was very charming and then the site just became flooded with them @_@
@PrinceNorthLæraðr thanks lol
@PrinceNorthLæraðr yeah this is pretty common with formats that can be used to make new puzzles with relatively low effort
04:08
Which is kinda tragic
The security to the party series comes to mind
I don't even know if I know that series
I haven't made a puzzle here in a reallly long time though
@PrinceNorthLæraðr It's not all bad imo, it's a good way for new users to get started be engaged
I guess so
We all start somewhere
But yeah it's sad that given the sheet quantity of these, there's very few of these that reinvents or subverts the formula
04:09
I don't like to think of my first puzzles here >_<;
Actually I don't like to think about any of my puzzles here >_<;
@PrinceNorthLæraðr haha you should search it up if you are looking for some mediocre to terrible puzzles
same lol
It's actually insane how much I've learnt about puzzle-making from the community
Actually I think I am proud of this one simply because I put A LOT of time into it
Even if I sucked at making cryptic clues back then
@Ankoganit ahh, I guess "after cryptically doing this" is the reverse cryptic indicator?
I had mistakenly thought "after" would be part of the anagram too
@PrinceNorthLæraðr Don't be too hard on yourself, I liked some of your later puzzles! I think the key takeaway should be the obvious improvement, and just imagine how much better these will get over time
@oAlt yes, seems so
👌
@PrinceNorthLæraðr same, but especially my second one where I did a bad attempt at cryptic clues. I lay low after that one
04:17
@Ankoganit Thanks! I just realized the Connect Walls that were kind of popular around the time I posted mine was like the precursor for the NY Times Connect Four or whatever they call it xD
Yeah lol we were doing connect walls before they were cool
LMAO this is true
when all my friends were playing it on NYT I was like "wait this looks familiar"
Inb4 NYT adds Rileys
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LOL
Riley sues NYT for plagiarism, wins millions of pennies
heck yeah
04:27
Maybe I'll continue this series xD
Or maybe I should just post some good ol' CCs now that I actually understand how they work
I don't know why it never made sense to me
@PrinceNorthLæraðr if you're feeling inspired my advice is to go for it
The only issue is that I have NO clue what to do
@PrinceNorthLæraðr I think there's a distinct moment where you stop thinking of cryptic clues as puzzles with an arbitrary set of rules and realize "oh it's just instructions phrased weirdly to mess with me"
Yup
Exactly what happened with me
Hm I'm actually getting some ideas for a Tetris puzzle, it may or may not happen (possibly. if I have time.)
@Ankoganit Yes, that's it.
04:45
@Sphinx I do love pronouncing it as BAR-BE-QU-UH
CCCC: Kind of cheese, sharp for a short time (7)
All the seven letter cheeses that I recognize that Qat spits out are CHEDDAR (which first came to mind), GRUYERE, and RICOTTA
Esp bc CHEDDAR is considered a sharp cheese but I feel like it's intentionally there to throw us off
Here's some more
I can't see anything that fits though...
Yeah
Oooh MUNSTER
Not that it fits anywhere, I just like the cheese
Oh duh maybe "kind of cheese" is part of the wordplay
So it's a shorter cheese name like SWISS or something
Possibly an &lit? The splitting seems weird if the def is "time" or "a short time" or something
Can a short time be like... ti? tim?
@Ankoganit Hm BRIE+FLY?
05:07
@PrinceNorthLæraðr that's it!
Yay
Oh my gosh I forgot that stilton was a type of cheese
@PrinceNorthLæraðr Ahhh!
All I associated with that is Geronimo Stilton
Nice stream-of-consciousness solve-along.
I had totally forgotten about short cheese names
05:09
@MOehm Thank you, I hope it's not too annoying to anyone
@PrinceNorthLæraðr Oh I kinda miss that
@PrinceNorthLæraðr I actually enjoy seeing the thought process behind puzzles
It was such a fun series as a child
I just like to think out loud :P
Yeah, I don't remember if mine got thrown away when I got older but I hope not
I remember just like borrowing a whole buttload of them at a time whenever our class went to the school's library
HAHAAHAHA THE WRITER IS ITALIAN
Idk why that's funny to me
05:13
hahah
Huh they're actually all first published/written in Italian and then I presume translated?
I'd always read them at a bookstore we always frequented (but almost never buy it for some reason 🤨)
@PrinceNorthLæraðr Yeah I kinda remember that's what happened
@oAlt Honestly going to Barnes and Noble (or which ever bookstore you went to) just to read books is such a vibe
:)
Ah, but I searched right now and I didn't remember (or know, I guess) that the author is a woman
Yeah I didn't realize (or forgot) it was a woman
I'm like rereading some of these online and I have to say they're actually pretty well written
Fun plots, and they very surreptitiously teach words/concepts without feeling too much like they're trying to teach you stuff, if you understand what I mean
05:21
True
> an ancient Roman silver coin, originally worth ten asses.
The definition for denarius threw me off so badly
Which of the ten in particular?
The as (pl.: assēs), occasionally assarius (pl.: assarii, rendered into Greek as ἀσσάριον, assárion), was a bronze, and later copper, coin used during the Roman Republic and Roman Empire. == Republican era coinage == The Romans replaced the usage of Greek coins, first by bronze ingots, then by disks known as the aes rude. The system thus named as was introduced in ca. 280 BC as a large cast bronze coin during the Roman Republic. The following fractions of the as were also produced: the bes (2⁄3), semis (1⁄2), quincunx (5⁄12), triens (1⁄3), quadrans (1⁄4), sextans (1⁄6), uncia (1⁄12, also a common...
CCCC: Half-century composer drops from the top (5)
Oops ignore that
I just realized that 50 years is L not D
Rats so much for that clue
(If a mod can delete that clue I'd appreciate it)
D is 500 :/ the answer was D+IVES
05:54
well, if dropping from the top can be called living…
:P
I do apologize for the fake C4
But at least it's better than a real one
06:13
CCCC: Notified around something like a sharp hit (7)
If "about" would work in the clue as well as "around" does, then it'd IMO be better surfacewise, since someone can be notified about something.
06:31
Sep 6, 2022 at 0:26, by msh210
CCCC: A vehicle takes a sharp turn in celebratory spirits (8)
Sep 7, 2022 at 13:21, by juicifer
@msh210 could this be BUS (a vehicle) surrounding B♭ + LIE (turn in!) to get BUBBLIES (champagnes)?
I wonder if "a sharp" is doing the same thing here... Or at least if it also refers to the note...
06:46
I'm impressed by your memory.
06:59
it's e(ncycloped, bordering on idet)ic
I would think a round something would give a blunt hit.
@msh210 (I put it in the wrong places)
@oAlt nice thinking; I think this is clu(Bb)ed
@PrinceNorthLæraðr
Ahhh
07:13
Dang I really thought I was clever
nice clue
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I had thought it was clobber but that went nowhere
But Msh beat me to it 2 years ago xD
Still clever haha
that just means we're both clever :-D
07:14
@msh210 This was for sure a better surface, i didn't realize about could be a container
@Jafe Thanks!
I wasn't sure if hit=clubbed was a fair clue
@PrinceNorthLæraðr IMO it is definitely
Agreed it's fair
yeah "hit" for "clubbed" is surely fine
Also, as a music major, I will pull out the "um actually" and say that A# isn't necessarily the same thing as Bb, hence "something like A#"
Enharmonic equivalence, etc. how you spell notes is pretty important even if it sounds the same since they communicate different meanings
Anyhow /rant about music theory :P
@oAlt Also the fact that you pulled this up out of thin air was pretty crazy xD
07:20
my friend composes electronic music for fun and the software he uses doesn't have flats at all, only sharps
so the melody line might have something like A A# A A# and you just have to live with it (i assume you get used to it)
@PrinceNorthLæraðr CCCC: Someone who's interested in music: remain more chill. (11)
@PrinceNorthLæraðr Lolll
Yeah I've also heard of enharmonic equivalence before but never learned more about it
Enharmonic equivalence is basically when two notes have the same pitch but different ways of spelling them, like A# and Bb, C# and Db, E natural and F#, etc.
07:22
Ahh right
It doesn't really matter if the main purpose is for listening, but it matters a lot if you're giving the music to performers to read
By the way, I have a question for you as a music person (if you don't mind, of course). My kid is learning piano, and had a sharp symbol (or flat symbol, I forget which) written on the beginning of the staff rather than next to an individual note. I asked what that means, and my kid said that it means every note on the staff is sharpened (or flattened (or whatever the word is)).
But there were no notes on that staff! The symbol was on the left-hand (F-clef, I think it's called?) staff, and the entire song was being played with the right hand (notes writteh on the other staff). So what's the point of the symbol?
One of the critiques that I got actually in my string quartet was that string players will tend to tend to playing/tuning slightly sharper on notes written sharp while tune slightly flat when reading flat notes, which can mess with intonation when approached incorrectly
@PrinceNorthLæraðr (Huh. For some reason I remember you play a mouth (brass or woodwind) instrument. Obviously, I don't have oAlt's memory.)
@msh210 Did it also have a sharp or a flat in the right hand staff (the treble staff?)
@msh210 I do! I play trumpet
07:27
@PrinceNorthLæraðr could be; I don't recall
@msh210 if "in music:" is a homophone indicator then "stay colder" sounds like "stakeholder", someone who's interested
The symbol in the front of the staff is called a key signature, and like your son said, it denotes that every single instance of that note be sharp or flat. But the reason for that comes down to scales. The C major scale (C, D, E, F, G, A, B) and the A natural minor scale (A, B, C, D, E, F, G) doesn't contain any flats or sharps, but every other major and minor scale will have a unique number of sharps or flats. For example, the Eb major scale has three flats (Eb, F, G, Ab, Bb, C, D, Eb).
@oAlt yep!
no wonder chill = composed got me nowhere
On the fundamental level, it makes reading music cleaner, because instead of having to put the symbols for every single note, you just tell the performer "this section has these flat notes"
07:33
CCCC: City shows intelligence where interaction with device happens: question translated in Spanish (7)
clicksaver service: it's 'pregunta'
Jafe is a clicksaver; what's your superpower?
heheh
this is IQ + UI + ¿QUE?, a city
@Jafe that's correct
07:36
@msh210 Since piano is a two-handed instrument, the book or piece was probably trying to get your son used to reading both staves at the same time, even if it meant that the left hand isn't playing anything for that piece. Most likely the top staff also had the same key signature
I wouldn't know for sure though unless I saw the book, maybe it was doing something else
@PrinceNorthLæraðr got it
thanks!
Maybe it was teaching your son polytonality though I highly doubt that :P
@msh210 Yup!
CCCC: City in Africa fellow's escaped from (5)
F can mean fellow I think, so Africa - F = Arica, a city in the same country as Iquique
yeah
07:39
Ah
@msh210 DDOS-ing through overclicking
07:52
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Q: My God, it's full of stars!

paramesisAn entry in Fortnightly Topic Challenge #32: Grid Deduction Hybrids My dear friend, unknown to us, may have relocated again. He sent me imagery and constellation maps indicating that a distant red spiraling galaxy was at his zenith, and nearly collinear with the largest local galactic cores. ...

Someone please solve this puzzle, it's been 7 years ;-;
I've been on this site for 6 years??
Oh yeah, I badly wanna see what happens there. I put a bounty once but never did anything
CCCC: Bread prepared in Southeastern Europe because of new cooler (7)
@oAlt I'm glad people still remember the puzzle
Paremsis made some realllly pretty puzzles
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Q: How many of the 16 cells of the grid could contain the black dot?

Will.Octagon.GibsonBeginner puzzle This puzzle is intended to be suitable for people who are new to puzzle solving. Clarification: Both experienced solvers and new solvers are welcome to post solutions to this puzzle. All four L-shapes shown in the diagram are to be placed in the 4 by 4 grid so that all sixteen ce...

08:12
Am I the only one who thinks meta-info that has to be in a question post should be at its bottom? Like "Beginner puzzle This puzzle is intended to be suitable…" or "This puzzle continues the tradition of What is a Word…". Lead off with the important stuff, which the meta-info is not.
For me I'd keep it at the top but make it smaller since the meta-info isn't too long
@Sphinx I was gonna post the solution to this, but like... meh
Not sure, but I do find the use of # headers in the last post quite distracting
(By small, I mean enclosed with <sub></sub>)
Hm, can "cooler" be an anagrind (as in "WEN is NEW, only cooler")?
08:19
hm
I was thinking NEW might just be N
but it could be an anagrind
@oAlt also good
trawling bread in europe for candidates...
> Turkey has the largest per capita consumption of bread in the world as of 2000, with 199.6 kg (440 lb) per person
per… day? week? fortnight?
08:25
ah
even per year that is a crapton of bread (technical culinary term)
also what's up with that article having separate sections for sweden, norway and denmark while lumping finland under "finland and russia"
we waᴎt to make it our coloᴎy
I wonder if BREAD is something like money or something
@msh210 I audibly snorted at that comment
hah
08:28
in true communist fashion
bread can mean money but it'd be pretty weird to use "prepared" as the verb if that's the case
assuming prepared is part of the def
True
Can "prepared in" be an indicator?
Esp if Southeastern is SE and Europe is E then it's like
SE(BREAD)E
I'd think prepared could be an anagrind.
But then "because of new cooler" would have to be the definition.
08:32
fornax relates to baking bread, and has FOR (because of) N (new) at the start... maybe it's some kind of derivative from that
… an adjective referring to something that's cooler because it's new??
Lepinja is a seven letter bread that immediately came up when I googled "bread in southeastern europe"
@PrinceNorthLæraðr also ladenia, projara, česnica, daktyla
cooler could be AC or a word for prison like CAN or PEN
08:39
oooh cooler could be AC
so putting that all together, it's… ni* SE E for N AC
NISEEFORNAC
I count seven letters
in niseefornac? yeah, seven, for sure.
(at least)
seven is a social construct
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could also be "in southeastern europe, because of" for a weird translated term (i don't think it is that, but i think it'd be valid)
08:45
what do you mean?
like a greek word meaning "because of" or something
ah
Call me crazy, but what if "bread prepared in southerastern europe" is like... a currency in europe?
drachma?
16 mins ago, by Jafe
bread can mean money but it'd be pretty weird to use "prepared" as the verb if that's the case
Ah right, but like.. printing money?
08:47
lev, leu, denar, dinar, mark, lek, lira... previously drachma, tolar, kuna
@PrinceNorthLæraðr my second-favorite pastime
i'm scared to know what your first is
favourite is spending it after the printing?
@PrinceNorthLæraðr no comment
hmm still think this is most likely to be a term for bread... there are so many
this clue is turning up to be a real pita
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sedater = cooler, and it has SE in it, but doesn't seem to fit the clue otherwise
is italy considered south eastern europe
just southern i think
welp it's 2 am so i should sleep
09:01
Good night!
09:25
@oAlt cozonac = coz o' N AC (h/t, sorted by "Origin")
09:38
@msh210 Yep you found it!
CCCC: Bad air dictated inflammation of my airways (6)
 
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11:07
miasma
(my + asthma) homophone
yep!
11:50
CCCC: While performing "The Task", Spooner's eating the entrance (5,3,5)
Don't know how fair the parsing is in my view, but it should be fine
(And I'm going to bed, so expect and answer in around 24 hours or 10 hours at best)
MD5 hash, (no caps, with spacing) is c802c149044057fc869db11d9ff1ae58 so please do check it for yourself
(unless someone solves it in the next 2 minutes)
12:36
@Stevo doing the chore = Spoonerism of "chewing the door"
I think it should be that but checking the hash just in case...
huh, that's weird, it doesn't match. To those who have checked MD5's before, what website did you use?
tried three different ones, i get cac00a9d061c2516c7e5d03b0b764779 every time
13:01
same
13:14
I haven't tried variations of it yet though
13:38
the true puzzle ended up being a cryptography one
13:50
doing the chore plus enter gives the correct hash btw
c802c149044057fc869db11d9ff1ae58
oh wow nicely spotted
@msh210 clicksaver and lifesaver, it turns out
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Q: Organizing a totally secret murder mystery

diynevalaI have an idea for murder mystery mechanics and I need helpful tips to build it up to a working game. So, I'm at a party, where guests are totally unaware of any upcoming murder mystery. Nothing fancy there yet. I want to hand out a card to a guest, in secret, containing the premise and rules for...

14:06
CCCC: Phoenix team is unstable internally (4)
_s uns_
@juicifer Yup!
15:00
@msh210 ohhh nice
thx
15:17
CCCC: A Frenchman goes to port for a certain spice (4)
15:48
Hm, Frenchman can be FR right? I can’t think of any spices with FR though
It’s clearly _MANGOES__and is definitely not because I want some
Ah, this is probably mace (a certain spice) = ace (A) + M. (Monsieur, Frenchman) goes to the left (the port) @juicifer
Ooooh clean solve
thx
Oh! “the port” is like a ship position thingy right
The port and the starboard?
That’s really clever
16:05
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Q: Arrange yourselves in a more interesting order

SlowMagicThe items below are arranged in alphabetical order. However, there is a more interesting way to order them. athletics commissioner attendance metrics bronze rowers info URL lacrosse venue mezzanine level network broadcast Paris IX arrondissement plinth reevaluation travel event weight...

@PrinceNorthLæraðr yeah
16:47
@oAlt yep!
CCCC: Valuable setter's going to port with a light ender (9)
17:09
I'm about to sleep so here's the MD5 hash for the answer (fully lowercase): 48818f3da3d36ad762480b319b56f588
 
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18:19
Dear me, I wonder what "valuable setter" can clue.
 
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20:45
@msh210 ho ho
 
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Q: A Never-Before-Seen Sequence

isaacgContinue the following sequence of a's, b's, and c's: abcacbaabbccaaccbbabacabcbcaaabaacbbbcbabbacccacaabccbcbbcababcaacaccabbbaaacccbacbccccaaaabbabbcbcb These are the first 100 letters in an infinite sequence. Ever character is the best possible character to create a novel, never-before-seen s...

23:12
i hate <canvas>
good night :)

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