The Sphinx's Lair

12:49 AM

@PrinceNorthLæraðr yep, if I'm very confident in something and there's absolutely no room for doubt, I have no problem modhammering it

but otherwise I'll leave it for other people to vote on

bobble

Something I'm curious about: how do suspensions work? Do you need to consult with other mods first? Is there a little button that you click to suspend someone? How do you usually determine what is suspend-worthy? Do I ask too many questions?

Sciborg

1:02 AM

Suspended, reason: asking too many questions

Deusovi

there's a mod message system that lets us message users in exceptional/problematic cases - there are very small templates for sockpuppet upvoting, plagiarism, being abusive to others, etc, and we write more letting the user know about the concerning behaviour we've noticed and asking them to fix it

that also lets us suspend -- all suspensions come along with one of these mod messages (though not all mod messages carry a suspension)

we don't need to consult with other mods, but all other mods are notified whenever a mod message is sent out (whether it includes a suspension or not)

for what's suspension-worthy... it's generally gotta be a clear pattern of problematic behaviour, one that they've been warned about before (either through a mod message or through comments/chat/etc)

this isn't an official guideline, but we are strongly encouraged to not suspend on the first mod message unless it's something very obviously against the rules (e.g. excessive sockpuppet upvoting)

so in cases of doubt, we'll mod-message (usually gareth or me writing, though rubio and gpr have written a few too). it often works to let people know "hey you're kinda getting over the line" without us needing to suspend

Sciborg

That makes sense.

Deusovi

and then if the issue continues, it's pretty clear that a suspension is warranted

Sphinx

1:33 AM

1

Q: test-iq.org Free IQ test problem need help

I am trying to solve this problem from test-iq.org's free demo IQ test. This is the question: I did not find out a pattern of how the shapes semicircle moves. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

progressive-matrix

bobble

2:39 AM

I have made it my mission to fix every new IQ test question's title. Not sure if I'm succeeding.

Deusovi

i appreciate it! IQ test questions get bad titles so often

bobble

I usually just try to add a description of what kind of problem it is.

Ann Zen

I'm a bit confused about this: https://puzzling.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/7032/fortnightly-topic-challenges-threrun-topic-suggestions

Do users suggest already existing tags as topics, or do user suggest new tags to be created?

bobble

You can suggest a tag, or something else

So "Variety Crossword Grids" is connected to the [crosswords] tag, but is also something extra

Deusovi

@AnnZen these are prompts for puzzle-making -- they're often based off of tags, but don't have to be

bobble

2:42 AM

A previous theme was "Short and Sweet", or something like it - quick, small puzzles that still had to be high-quality.

Ann Zen

Like a new one, for example audio-uncoving?

bobble

that wouldn't be a good tag, I think

Ann Zen

I know :p

Sphinx

1

Q: Online IQ test question - which number doesn't belong?

I took an online IQ test(www.free-iqtest.net) and encountered this problem which I wasn't able to do: I know that the answer is EIGHT but I do not know why the number 8 doesn't belong in the series. I was just lucky and guessed it correctly. I want to know why the answer is EIGHT. Thank you.

number-sequence number-theory

Deusovi

"uncoving"?

Ann Zen

2:45 AM

Just an example

Deusovi

that's not a word i'm familiar with

Ann Zen

So is it that we can propose new tags?

covering

Deusovi

the point isn't to propose new tags, it's to give prompts for people to make puzzles

you can give a prompt that would merit a tag, but the tag may or may not be useful for the site

tags aren't necessary parts of the theme ideas

Ann Zen

so for example i can suggest strategy?

Deusovi

sure! that could be an interesting prompt

Ann Zen

2:48 AM

ok, thx!

Deusovi

coming up with novel [strategy]-type puzzles that have "elegant" solutions is likely harder than other types, so it might not get as much attention though

bobble

3:00 AM

Deus, I finished all the Statue Parks in the pack. Is there any optimal order to solve yours in?

Deusovi

i'd say the regular puzzles in posting order:
Five https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/84104/statue-park-five
Knight's Lines https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/84204/statue-park-knights-lines
Apollo 11 https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/86826/statue-park-apollo-11

and then my Statue View puzzles, in order:
Tetrominoes https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/84335/statue-view-tetrominoes
Raindrops https://puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/84342/statue-view-raindrops

feel free to let me know if you want a nudge (or a clarification of Statue View rules)! hope you enjoy the puzzles

bobble

I have copied this down, thanks!

Sciborg

I am bewildered by the sudden profusion of IQ test questions :p

Ankoganit

IQ test question: what's the next IQ test question in this sequence?

bobble

It waxes and wanes

Deusovi

3:12 AM

@Ankoganit reminds me of a Bongard problem i saw that was about classifying Bongard problems

Ankoganit

ooh

Sciborg

Now I want some kind of meta-puzzle sequence where each puzzle is individually a puzzle, but the real puzzle is secretly to guess the next one.

bobble

I think it would be hard to make with a single solution

Sciborg

Fair, it might work with mathematical puzzles

Like you present three mathematical puzzles that are seemingly unrelated then post a fourth puzzle: "What is the next puzzle in the sequence?" And watch everyone lose their minds.

bobble

Where would their minds go?

Sciborg

3:15 AM

More brains for Deus's brain jar

Deusovi

you may enjoy the Pokémon round of MITMH 2018

web.mit.edu/puzzle/www/2018/full/island/pokemon.html

Sciborg

What on earth is this puzzle?? I love it

Deusovi

this is an entire round of puzzles from the MIT Mystery Hunt

Sciborg

It's incredible.

Deusovi

the gimmick this round had was that each puzzle had an "evolved" form - we first unlocked "shoal patrol", the rattata icon just under the people at the top

which is a weird battleships/loop-drawing mashup

bobble

3:17 AM

Was someone a pokemon nerd?

Deusovi

and then when we solved it, we unlocked "submarine patrol", a 3D battleships puzzle

Sciborg

That's insane

Ankoganit

whoa

bobble

3D BATTLESHIPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Deusovi

there was this puzzle, that required us to interpret an image as record grooves

web.mit.edu/puzzle/www/2018/full/puzzle/33_rpm.html

Sciborg

3:18 AM

oh my god

Deusovi

(like, the actual way a record works is that the tiny indentations in its grooves vibrate the air, making sounds -- we could simulate that with a program here, taking white to be 'hills' and black to be 'valleys'... and it would play actual music. was incredible when we got it working)

bobble

Sciborg, your last four messages are all exclamations of amazement at puzzles shared by Deusovi

Deusovi

of course, that then 'evolved' into a puzzle titled Mix Tape

web.mit.edu/puzzle/www/2018/full/puzzle/mix_tape.html

which was exactly what you would expect

Sciborg

I'm just in absolute awe at how clever making you interpret an image as record grooves and playing actual music with it is

Deusovi

oh yeah it's amazing. puzzle hunts are so cool

Sciborg

3:20 AM

This is the level of insane hilarious puzzle making skills I aspire to one day

Deusovi

you should totally participate in puzzle hunts! there are a bunch of neat puzzle ideas that make you feel like a genius when you get them

bobble

But you have to be a genius in the first place

Deusovi

MITMH is an experience made and solved by teams of 50+ people

@bobble very much not true

it takes time to get good enough to solo difficult puzzles like this, but there are lots of easy puzzle hunts that are still a very fun time. and in my experience, pretty much everyone on the team has contributed to solves at MITMH, even if they've literally never done a puzzle hunt before and just wandered in confused

oh anyway the puzzles all evolved like this for the first half of the round... but for the back half of the round we just didn't get their evolved forms

and we had to figure out what the answers would be

Sciborg

Like how I wandered into this chatroom and accidentally solved a C4

Deusovi

for example, the answer to the Squirtle puzzle was STUMBLE; the answer to its evolved form was THUMBHOLES

you might notice that this is "adding H₂O"

Ankoganit

3:23 AM

:o

Deusovi

and if you take the other water-type pokemon whose evolved form wasn't given, Krabby (with answer REPTILES), you can add HOH and anagram to get LITHOSPHERE, which we needed for the metameta

bobble

there was a metameta?????

Sciborg

What the hell

Deusovi

similarly, Cranidos (a rock-type) had answer GOLDEN STATE, and its evolution had answer BUSH. here "rock" refers to rock bands -- golden state is actually the name of an album by the band Bush. so for the unevolved rock-type, with answer ABSOLUTION, we had to use MUSE as its evolution's answer

Sciborg

WHAT

bobble

3:25 AM

WHAT

Okay, I've joined 'borg with the exclamations of amazement

Deusovi

another fun one: Rattata (the normal type mentioned earlier) had answer YARDARM and its evolution had answer MAST. (the yardarm is the horizontal segment of a plank holding up a sail on a ship)

Sciborg

Just... what

Deusovi

the Meowth answer was CEILING

so naturally, we have to take the thing that's normal to it -- that is, perpendicular -- and the answer WALL was used in the metameta

Sciborg

NATURALLY, OF COURSE

It's so obvious

Prince North Læraðr

The heck

Um, what did I just walk into

Imma just walk back out

Federico

3:27 AM

@LukasRotter ok, I'll add that. next time feel free to go ahead! :)

Sciborg

Deusovi is blowing our minds with crazy MIT puzzles

Ankoganit

I'm assuming these leaps are somehow clued by context?

Deusovi

(this was a thing figured out over the course of like, half a day at least, as we slowly gained answers by solving the puzzles that gave them to us)

@Ankoganit the context i've given you is all that's relevant (for this part of the puzzle, where you figured out the answers to nonexistent puzzles)

we effectively had this table given

and we knew that there were puzzles that would be "Pokémon B2", with the slight problem that they didn't actually exist

...and the other slight problem that, naturally, we wouldn't have all of the answers there, because each of those answers required solving a puzzle that could take several hours

Ankoganit

...

bobble

WHAT

Sciborg

3:29 AM

Huh

Deusovi

like i said, MITMH is an event that has teams of 50+ people

and this was in a late-game round

Sciborg

At least now we know where Deusovi gets his 500 IQ galaxy brain

bobble

By taking all his MITMH teammates'?

Sciborg

They're all tied up in his basement

bobble

He lets them out for the puzzle hunts

So that they can be solving the easier puzzles while he figures out the metas

Sciborg

3:33 AM

We know your secret Deus

Deusovi

my puzzle hunt teammates can confirm their own existence and not-trapped-in-my-basement-ness

for one that would be a huge health risk

Sciborg

That's exactly what they would say if they were trapped in your basement

I'm still trying to process what on God's green earth a "metameta" is

Deusovi

it's a metapuzzle that uses answers to other metapuzzles

bobble

Perhaps we are becoming too deep in the conspiracy theories about Deus's puzzling prowess

Deusovi

(those 18 answers above also fed into three separate metapuzzles and gave us answers there, which we then had to combine with the resulting nonexistent puzzle answers)

Sciborg

3:36 AM

"a metapuzzle that uses answers to other metapuzzles" is probably the most terrifying thing I've heard in my life

Ankoganit

It's gonna take me a while to get used to the phrase "nonexistent puzzle answers"

3

Sciborg

That too

Like... I'm over here doing crossword puzzles in the newspaper and y'all are on Level 99 planes of existence solving meta-meta-metapuzzles

Deusovi

metametametapuzzles are a thing too

i don't believe i can think of a meta⁴puzzle off the top of my head though

bobble

the obvious answer: make your own!

Deusovi

...well y'see about that, one of the meta³puzzles is my own

posted one here a while back. not a huge fan of some of the decisions i made now but it's still up

bobble

3:38 AM

Of course it is

Ankoganit

Ah, the Chess Fortnight one?

Deusovi

nah, Recognizing a Metapuzzle

chess fortnight was only meta²

Ankoganit

Ah right

bobble

"only"

Deusovi

~~and had even worse decisions made~~

Sciborg

3:39 AM

"only"

Deusovi

but yes metapuzzles are fun, and puzzle hunts in general are fun

Sciborg

They seem fun, I always wished my college had done one. The closest we came was a physics scavenger hunt that got canceled due to COVID.

oAlt

@Deusovi ok that one's genius

Prince North Læraðr

@Deusovi Could you make me the room owner to my Math Help room?

Deusovi

(sure, one sec)

i'd recommend colby's curious cookoff (curiouscookoff.com) and dp puzzle hunt (dp.puzzlehunt.net/puzzles.html) if you're interested!

2

the first is made by boxaroo, an escape room company, and it's very accessible. (i should be at the top of the leaderboard though - i solved one of the sample puzzles after it was over and it dropped me down for some reason >:/ ) the second is made by me and a group of friends, and meant as an introduction to puzzle hunts that has more 'aha moments' than colby while still being approachable

both are pretty soloable, but i'm happy to give hints on either if you get stuck

Sciborg

3:46 AM

Oh my goodness, Colby's Curious Cookoff looks adorable

Prince North Læraðr

It's blocked on my school laptop for being "non-affiliated" :((((

Deusovi

colby has very impressive production quality

bobble

Look, we're talking about Puzzling!

Deusovi

dp has very "the best we could do in like a month" production quality

Prince North Læraðr

Thanks for the ownership change, btw

Sciborg

3:47 AM

I'm working through the sample puzzles on Colby, they are wonderful and accessible. Nice big fonts for my crappy eyesight too :D

Deusovi

the hunt is pay-what-you-want, so i'd say you should go for it and jump in! honestly i think anyone here could probably speed through a lot of them, especially the very early ones

bobble

North has renamed his help room to The Grove

Prince North Læraðr

Hehe, I think it's only appropriate

Sciborg

Solving the breadcrumbs one just made me laugh, that was really clever

They're not too hard but they're really fun and charming

Deusovi

yeah! they're nice

would recommend doing the 'real thing' - it's very pleasant

Prince North Læraðr

4:00 AM

Done with physics! sighs in relief

Deusovi

hooray!

Prince North Læraðr

Alright, gonna go to bed. Cya!

Deusovi

night!

Prince North Læraðr

Also, GOT TO SLEEP SCIBORG (also you too Deus)

bobble

*go

Sciborg

4:01 AM

Good night!

bobble

Sciborg, I enjoy how your strange schedule means we're online at roughly the same times :)

Sciborg

I blame insomnia :p

It is really nice how my lunch breaks and after-dinner logins generally align with when you guys are on

bobble

It was obviously Meant To Be by the puzzling gods

Sciborg

It was fated by the Mods

Also, I feel very silly but I am stuck on the PB&J puzzle Deus, any hints?

I think I've got the words but I don't know what the numbers mean

Deusovi

haven't looked at that one i think, but have you heard of indexing

Sciborg

4:06 AM

OH

Damnit, I'm a programmer, I should have realized that :p

Deusovi

indexing is very common in puzzle hunts

(and it's basically always 1-indexing)

Sciborg

I was about to ask, my brain is always in 0-indexing mode so maybe that's why it didn't click right away

But dangit, these puzzles are too cute to be mad at

Hmm, "Off Brand" is interesting

bobble

Is it off brand?

Sciborg

Can confirm

This is a weird one, I think it's a visual puzzle/rebus? It doesn't tell you

bobble

The latest Deepthinker comments appear to have been deleted

Sciborg

4:21 AM

Did they delete them, or did a mod step in?

bobble

all of the comments under the question and their answer, so definitely mod

Sciborg

Probably for the best, not nice to harass people.

I'm still stuck on this puzzle arrgh, I suck at visual rebus puzzle things.

Deusovi

you don't have to solve every puzzle!

Sciborg

Yes, but I have to

The only things I've figured out are that you can move the brands around, and some of the names are parallel to each other, but I don't know what to do from here.

Deus, help!

bobble

Are you hitting the big black-and-white PANIC button?

Sciborg

4:33 AM

I am hitting the PANIC button yes

bobble

(black-and-white because it just has Deus's avatar)

distress signal from Sciborg

Sciborg

Emergency meeting

bobble

Hallo, @pilotjoker999

@Sciborg flashing red lights?

Sciborg

Red is sus

I need to sleep but I can't sleep until I solve this thing

bobble

What color lights?

Or do you want to go full PANIC and ping Deus?

Deusovi

4:38 AM

hello

bobble

the button worked!

Sciborg

I need a hint on "Off Brand" :p

Deusovi

that's one i haven't done

took a look at it but i can't immediately see how to extract

Sciborg

I figured out you can move the brands around, and I think the goal is to put them in a certain order, but beyond that I'm completely stumped

Deusovi

ah ok i think i see

yeah got it

Sciborg

4:41 AM

Me: *struggles for thirty minutes*
Deus: *works for twenty seconds* yeah got it

Deusovi

you haven't figured out what to put in the boxes yet?

Sciborg

Do you put the original brand names...?

Deusovi

well first of all i do want to make something clear -- the text boxes and draggability are for your convenience only. nothing's going to happen and give you more information

putting something in there that's related to the image might be helpful

Sciborg

aghhh i don't know

I feel extremely dumb for not getting this because it feels obvious

Deusovi

by your comment it sounds like you had noticed something more than "there are images, and you can reorder them"

what is it that you notice about these images? any properties of them at all?

Sciborg

4:48 AM

I mean they seem like rebuses, but I have no idea what any of them mean

Deusovi

they aren't rebuses

Sciborg

argghhhhhh

Deusovi

you're saying you can tell me absolutely nothing about these two images?

they are completely meaningless to you?

Sciborg

i mean, the first one is coca cola and the second one is starbucks obviously, and then maybe "lady deity" means "goddess" and i remember something about the starbucks logo being based on a goddess, so i guess that ties those together?

Deusovi

(i'm not trying to say that these are tied together in any way - i just reordered them for an easier screenshot)

so you have noticed something other than "these are images that can be dragged around" -- you just didn't tell me about it

Sciborg

4:53 AM

I mean, I got that they're based on brand logos, but I don't know where to go from there is what I was saying.

Deusovi

you didn't say that before

so, that explains part of the images. but there's still a part you haven't explained. what could that mean? maybe write that down for all the images and see if you can make any connections

Sciborg

Johnson & Johnson, Coca-Cola, Godiva, Starbucks, Nestle, Tabasco, Land o Lakes, and ??? is what I had

But then what

bobble

bye for the night!

Sciborg

Good night bobble :)

Ankoganit

which one's Johnson and Johnson?

Sciborg

4:57 AM

The blue J right?

Ankoganit

oh?

Sciborg

Wait, no, god I'm stupid

What's that one

Ankoganit

I have no idea

Deusovi

google is your friend

Sciborg

General Mills, okay

Waaaait

Waaaaait

Land o Lakes - Earth of Seas....

Oh, god, I'm such an idiot

It was so obvious

John Dvorak

4:59 AM

Wait... research is allowed???

Deusovi

yes absolutely

in puzzle hunts you can use any resources you want except for other teams

Sciborg

I'm stupid for not getting it, sorry

oAlt

@JohnDvorak yup and I was also slightly surprised at that in the past

Sciborg

I feel bad for making Deus have to patiently hand hold me through that one

Famous Money = Star Bucks, Earth of Seas = Land o Lakes, Private Flour Maker = General Mills, Capsaicin = Tabasco (as in the peppers), Snuggle = Nestle (verbs), Lady Deity = Godiva, and Creation = Kraft (craft).

Is that it?

Deusovi

well you need to get an answer and that doesn't look like an answer

Sciborg

5:13 AM

does it have to do with the numbers in the pictures?

Deusovi

that sounds like unused information that could be helpful

Sciborg

it says he started with the soft drink so we would start with general mills, since that has the soda clue? and take the 12th letter?

god i look like an idiot, i don't know

Deusovi

what do you get if you try that?

Sciborg

probably something wrong

Deusovi

have you tried it?

Sciborg

5:19 AM

i guess "s"

and then general mills points us to private flour maker, which is kraft

but there's no numbers in that picture so that can't be right

unless the "l" is a one?

am i being stupid?

Deusovi

i wouldn't say that

you've at least found another important part about the image with the red 12 - can you find similar things in other images?

generally weird things aren't going to happen in only one place

Sciborg

because like there are numbers in all of them, but i don't know what you would count as "numbers", because like the tabasco logo has six dots and i feel insane for considering that a "hidden number"

Ankoganit

I think that's important

because the tabasco sauce logo doesn't normally have dots

(does it?)

Sciborg

I mean, if we follow this completely wild chain of logic, then we go "s" (12th letter of General Mills) -> "k" (1st letter of Kraft) -> "s" (1st letter of Starbucks) and "sks" does not seem right

Ankoganit

AHHH

got it

Sciborg

5:26 AM

You what??

Ankoganit

The indexing-by-hidden-numbers idea is useful, but you need to get the correct numbers

Sciborg

so i have the wrong numbers?

Ankoganit

yes

Sciborg

how does everyone get this but me??

Deusovi

it looks like you're not trying to follow up on something you noticed

Ankoganit

5:28 AM

Probably a lack-of-sleep thing :)

Deusovi

also sleep is generally good from what i hear

Sciborg

What thing?

Ankoganit

How many logos give "obvious" numbers?

Sciborg

Well, okay, so General Mills has 12, Lady Deity has III in it, Earth of Seas has II in it, Creation has an I, Capsaicin has... ii? maybe? and if we consider the wild tabasco dots thing then tabasco has 6. then land-o-lakes has 10 canoes and the kraft logo maybe has an I

Sphinx

0

Q: Online IQ test progressive matrix question need help

This question comes from an online IQ test(https://hr.iq-test.cc/). This is the question: I cannot find the logic behind this puzzle. Any help in this problem would be appreciated. Thank you.

visual progressive-matrix

Sciborg

5:32 AM

oh no, wait, iv??

Ankoganit

some of these are not very convincing

Sciborg

no, because that makes less sense, that turns it into "sf"

please just tell me where the numbers are, i don't know

Deusovi

how do you think you might be able to tell if something is a number

Sciborg

I don't know, the only one that has like an obvious big number is the 12

Ankoganit

How do you know that is actually part of the puzzle?

(not saying it isn't)

Sciborg

5:36 AM

I don't, I'm just struggling

Deusovi

how could you figure out if it's part of the puzzle?

Sciborg

If it's different from how the logo usually looks i guess?

Ankoganit

:)

does that give an idea?

Sciborg

oh okay, so i had to like zoom hard but the starbucks thing has two dotty things on the crown instead of one. this is not a good puzzle for bad eyesight

so the number is two then

Ankoganit

wait what

Deusovi

5:39 AM

huh

Sciborg

?

right?

Ankoganit

umm I don't see two dots?

Deusovi

i don't see any dots

Ankoganit

^

Sciborg

oh, no, wait that's the star thingy

the star has different point number

it's six instead of five

and then the kraft logo is different number of sides

it's five instead of six

"s" -> "t" -> "u"...?

Ankoganit

5:44 AM

keep doing what you're doing, don't worry too much about the answer now

Sciborg

tabasco has six dots, so "c", then... um, nestle logo has four eggs i guess?

and yeah the canoe thing must be what's different about land o lakes so 10

this puzzle is a nightmare on my poor eyes

godiva has to be II because that's the only thing different

Ankoganit

ouch

zoom in in browser, maybe?

Sciborg

i'm starting to understand why i did not get this

if i had to notice a different number of points on a tiny star on a tiny logo

gaahhhhh

But that's all the numbers right?

Ankoganit

I think so

so what do these give?

Sciborg

okay so the order then, "s" (12th letter of general mills)

"t" (5th letter of kraft)

"u" (6th letter of starbucks)

"c" (6th letter of tabasco)

"t" (4th letter of nestle)

"s"? (10th letter of landolakes)

"o" (2nd letter of godiva)

and then "c" (3rd letter of coca cola)

oAlt

5:53 AM

aha! Getting the final answer seems easy from there

Sciborg

so we have stuctsoc...?

cost cuts

ah

Ye

yay!

good lord

(I think you are supposed to start from the coca cola logo go coca-cola-> godiva etc. but whatever)

Sciborg

5:54 AM

oh, oops

I felt like a toddler that you guys were all patiently leading along :p

Thanks for helping me out even if I'm a moron

Deusovi

(fwiw i did it backwards at first too, so you're not alone there)

Sciborg

I struggle hardcore with puzzles that require me to notice little visual details

Deusovi

i'd recommend zooming in if you're having trouble seeing the images - ctrl+(scroll up) should work

Sciborg

This took a lot of zooming yeah

oAlt

(equivalent to ctrl+plus/equals)

Sciborg

6:01 AM

The problem with this one I think is that when I buy brands at stores, I don't look at details of logos because obviously visual impairment, so even if I could zoom in on the images themselves, having to visually structure what these logos look like and realize that key detail that they were different from normal was the stumbling block

Deusovi

makes sense - i think the giant 12 helps show you that something is different though

Sciborg

That did help yes :p

Deusovi

and once you find that it's meant to suggest that you should look for other differences

(also, remember, research is allowed - i had to look up a bunch of logos)

Sciborg

That's fair. Maybe I should just stick to word puzzles from now on, visual is not going to ever be my strong suit :p

Deusovi

fair enough! i don't think there are any puzzles that rely heavily on vision in the hunt itself - there are certainly visual ones, but no 'spot-the-difference'-type things like that one

you shouldn't have to notice any small details iirc

Sciborg

6:04 AM

I wish I had realized this was a spot-the-difference before I struggled on it for this long, lol. Usually I just know to avoid those because they are a nightmare

Sorry for verbally flailing around in chat

Deusovi

it's fine

Sciborg

It was a really clever puzzle even if I completely flunked at it :p

Thank you for recommending the website, I may buy the full pack and keep going since they are really fun.

Deusovi

go for it! like i said it's pay-what-you-want, so you can access them for free

Sciborg

They're super charming. I just hope you don't think less of me now for crashing on like their basic Level 3 puzzle

Deusovi

6:36 AM

that's their hardest difficulty

Sphinx

12:21 PM

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Q: Colors: Life or Death

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