The Sphinx's Lair

12:05 AM

@Deusovi I enjoyed abstract algebra up to a point, but it went off the deep end and became too abstract for me around graduate level. Analysis is my thing :-)

Deusovi

Cool! So are you a mathematician?

Rand al'Thor

Yep!

Deusovi

I'm considering being one - still not quite sure, but it sounds interesting! I've heard academia is a pain though

Rand al'Thor

If you go into pure maths, especially algebra, there are fewer options open to you other than academia where you can really use what you've learned.

Applied maths is seen as less prestigious, but it gives you more possibilities.

Rand al'Thor

12:28 AM

Oh hey, there was a deleted comment on this. Am I missing anything interesting?

Deusovi

Nope.

Puzzling Meta

1:11 AM

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Q: Is this considered a semi-interactive puzzle?

It says on the tag wiki for semi-interactive-puzzle: DO NOT POST PUZZLES OF THIS TYPE. This tag is kept for historical reasons, and semi-interactive puzzles should not be considered good questions for this site. Semi-interactive puzzles are those where new parts are added to the puzzle as eac...

discussion

Sumurai8

8:00 AM

Greetings meatsacks. When is it appropriate to add a hint to your puzzle? Is it common to comment on a partial attempt to solve a puzzle to indicate if they are searching in the right direction?

IAmInPLS

@Sumurai8 Hello!

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Q: When can I ask for a hint?

I am pretty new here thus sorry if my question is a bit stupid. This is related but I am asking for kind of the "opposite". I mean, one can struggle to solve a puzzle and ask for an hint. But if it is done in the comment, it can ruin the pleasure for the other users to solve a hard problem. Also...

discussion hints

Sumurai8

My question is more the other way around. I posted this puzzle and I am trying to figure out how hard people find my puzzle.

IAmInPLS

@Sumurai8 Did you read the related question I was talking about in my post? meta.puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/5005/…

On a side note, I'l suggest you to wait a bit more before considering adding hints.

For instance, your puzzle was posted 8-9 hours ago. That's not even half a full day, and some people are in a time zone where they could have been sleeping this whole time, so just wait them to wake up :)

@Randal'Thor @Deusovi Listen to the wise man, this is where I come from! From my experience (and maybe the country is playing a role), pure maths will lead you to jobs/opportunities in the field of the research (and you can also be a part-time teacher/lecturer) whereas applied maths will lead you to jobs in fields like computer-science (my case), data science, finance...

@Deusovi It will strongly depend on you and what you want to do later. As a fresh engineer on the labour market, I could talk about all the choices/struggles for hours, so I'll be glad to share with you if you want to!

(the wise man being @Randal'Thor, as usual :o) )

Sumurai8

8:28 AM

@IAmInPLS Thanks.

Areeb

12:17 PM

I'm so dangerously close to 1000 rep

dcfyj

@Areeb So go post a great answer or a great question :P

Deusovi

1:04 PM

@IAmInPLS Go right ahead! I'd love to hear about it - I'm still not sure what I want to do, but I'm leaning towards mathematician or teacher.

Areeb

@dcfyj someone up voted one of my answers! I did it!

Deusovi

@Areeb Congrats! :D

Areeb

@Deusovi you seem like you'd make a great math teacher and thanks!

Deusovi

Oh, thank you!

Areeb

Just make all your test questions riddles cuz that's on topic for math

Rand al'Thor

1:10 PM

@Areeb smiles knowingly ;-) Congrats! Now you can go and look at some vote counts split into upvotes and downvotes (I recommend this question for the most spectacular count).

dcfyj

@Randal'Thor lol that split

Rand al'Thor

@dcfyj And congrats to you on 2k!

dcfyj

Thanks, I'm glad I can finally review edit, I've been wanting to do that for a while now

suggested edits*

Mithrandir

@Randal'Thor I see that you didn't clear the stars. :P

dcfyj

@Randal'Thor Although I would've hit it sooner if I hadn't done that bounty

Rand al'Thor

1:20 PM

@Mithrandir I could ... but, y'know, I've seen too many wildly inappropriate star-clearances to start doing them myself.

IAmInPLS

Hello @all :)

@Deusovi I don't know if you know a bit about the french scholar system, but we have this : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

This is where I come from. It's like hell, but in school :)

dcfyj

lol

IAmInPLS

Joke aside, you learn a lot about mathematics and physics and it's the main way to integer engineering school. Very good pupils integer some famous schools like Mines, X or (for teachers) ENS

dcfyj

integer?

IAmInPLS

-integer +enter... Pardon my french...

dcfyj

1:31 PM

That's what I was thinking but I wasn't sure. Just think "entrer" and you'll be close enough :P

PyRulez

What is white and black and red all over.

IAmInPLS

@dcfyj Talking about mathematics... Ha ha

PyRulez

I'll give you

Rand al'Thor

@PyRulez A newspaper.

That's an old one.

PyRulez

a hint, it smells like blue paint.

IAmInPLS

1:32 PM

@Deusovi Less good pupils (like me) still can join a less prestigious engineering school, or you can go to the equivalent of US' university. Since you're in college, I think that this is your next step.

dcfyj

@PyRulez A skunk in a blender

PyRulez

I was going to say red and white and black paint mixed together, but that works too.

dcfyj

Although the skunk doesn't smell like blue paint in the least

@IAmInPLS Integer Engineer School, it's a very niche market haha

IAmInPLS

@dcfyj Indeed :)

Rand al'Thor

@dcfyj Urgh.

dcfyj

1:37 PM

@Randal'Thor I know a few answers to that particular question.

Rand al'Thor

There was a question on PSE ages ago entitled something like "How to escape a blender?", but I can't find it now: it must have been deleted.

Pity really; it would have made useful reading for that skunk.

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Areeb

Reminds me of that movie, where a bunch of friends in a Skype call were being killed off one by one

One of them stuck his hand in a blender

Puzzling Meta

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Q: Why do we have review audits?

This main meta post tells us that the only Stack Exchange sites with a review audit system are: Stack Overflow Server Fault Super User Programmers Ask Ubuntu Mathematics Puzzling These are six of the largest and most active sites on the network, plus this one small site only just out of beta ...

discussion reviewing review-audits

IAmInPLS

1:54 PM

@Deusovi Now, if you want to be a teacher, that's to your credit! I don't know what you mean by "mathematician" but I don't think such a thing exists :).
I'll tell you why. Many of my teachers in my engineering school are part-time teachers.
They have like 14-18 hours of classes a week, and the rest is spent on research. Talking to them, they are obviously very interested in what they are doing (they even give us part of their research works as school projects, and that was indeed very interesting). So why am I telling you that a "pure" mathematician doesn't exist? Because **research doesn'…

Please also remember that I am talking about experiences with the french system, and that it may be different for you. But I think that research is the same problem in most countries :/

Mithrandir

3:02 PM

@Randal'Thor I think that that's all that was to be said...

Rand al'Thor

@Mithrandir Do you think we should keep review audits?

Mithrandir

@Randal'Thor I think that there's no point in removing them.

Deusovi

@Mithrandir They're annoying and inaccurate.

Rand al'Thor

@Mithrandir I think that there's no point in having them, plus they're annoying and have various faults as mentioned by me and @Deusovi.

Though I'd be interested to hear from @Emrakul about how and why they were introduced in the first place.

(Or Deusovi, if you have the inclination to go hunting through old transcripts in the Puzzling mod room.)

Mithrandir

You summoned him :)

user61230

3:05 PM

I'm writing up an answer, no worries.

Areeb

What do review audits do?

Rand al'Thor

@Emrakul Great :-)

user61230

It basically amounts to: no good reason; it was a test that neither succeeded nor failed.

Rand al'Thor

@Areeb They give you fake reviews as a test to see whether you're reviewing sensibly. If you fail (or if you fail enough?), you get temporarily banned from reviewing.

user61230

It didn't fail poorly enough to warrant us asking to disable it, and it didn't succeed enough to warrant us actually using it.

Mithrandir

3:06 PM

I think that if they were to be introduced now, I would be against it. But I don't see why they should be removed.

Areeb

@Randal'Thor oh thanks. That seems like a weird system for a relatively small site

Rand al'Thor

I don't think I've ever failed one, since I've always been a careful reviewer, usually enough so to open the post in another tab. So I don't know exactly what the consequences of failure are.

user61230

If you fail too many recent audits, you can be auto-banned.

Rand al'Thor

@Areeb Exactly!

Mithrandir

I failed one once. It said the STOP! Look and listen thing. Otherwsie, nothing.

user61230

3:08 PM

But it takes a good number of audits for that to happen.

Rand al'Thor

@Emrakul What do you mean by "didn't succeed enough to warrant us actually using it"? How would one use it more than the site already does by simply having it there?

user61230

@Randal'Thor Review audits are a garbage-in-garbage-out system. Voting patterns on the site don't align with content that should be deleted.

user61230

Which in and of itself is questionable, but when you feed that to the review audit system, you get straight garbage out most of the time.

Rand al'Thor

Sorry, still not getting it. What does a "garbage-in-garbage-out" system mean?

user61230

You feed it bad data, you get bad data out.

user61230

3:12 PM

(A term that, as far as I know, comes from this very amusing quote:

user61230

> On two occasions I have been asked, — "Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?" In one case a member of the Upper, and in the other a member of the Lower, House put this question. I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.

Rand al'Thor

Ah. So basically the problem I mentioned here (not all highly-voted open questions should be open, and not all closed questions should be closed)?

user61230

Yeah, that.

user61230

But in the two years the system's been active, nobody's really complained about it being there.

user61230

I'm sure people have hit bad audits before, but I think if people are doing the right thing they've just learned to shrug and move on? Which is why I think it's not causing a whole lot of pain.

Rand al'Thor

3:16 PM

I'll admit that a small part of my objection to it comes from simple OCD: the sites with review audits are the 6 massive mega-sites, and ... Puzzling? The incongruity just bugs me :-P

user61230

That's fair! Puzzling's weird :P

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Deusovi

@Randal'Thor Honestly, I thought that was bizarre too. We're relatively tiny compared to the other sites.

Areeb

On a side note, is there anyway to see up votes/down votes on the SE App?

Deusovi

Yep! Tap the score.

(Or maybe tap and hold?)

Rand al'Thor

@Emrakul How difficult would it be to get rid of the audit system if we really wanted to? Would it just be a matter of "get community consensus, ping CM, CM presses button", or would there have to be more inconvenience than that?

dcfyj

3:29 PM

@Randal'Thor Why do you want to remove it so much? It's not like it's detrimental to the site

Areeb

@Deusovi yay! I can see things now!

user61230

@Randal'Thor That's pretty much it, I think.

Rand al'Thor

@dcfyj It's annoying, unreliable, sometimes bans people who shouldn't be banned, and makes people more nervous than they should be to use the review queues.

user61230

To be fair, @rand, I don't think it's banned anyone, ever.

user61230

I'm not sure about that, though. If it has, I've never spotted it or heard about it.

Rand al'Thor

3:32 PM

@Emrakul I was sure I'd seen someone complaining about being banned by the audit system ...

user61230

@Randal'Thor ;)

dcfyj

I saw this post

Rand al'Thor

But maybe they were just complaining about having failed one audit.

user61230

Actually, though, that's what I think it was - failing singular audits.

dcfyj

and this one

user61230

3:33 PM

Data suggests people really aren't having trouble with audits.

dcfyj

But those are the only one's I've noticed

Rand al'Thor

@dcfyj Yeah, but that case was nothing to do with audits. In the interests of keeping the peace, I won't say what it (and its sequel) were about ;-)

@dcfyj That one's from way back, before there was an audit system here.

user61230

@Randal'Thor But you will link to them, so people can read through the drama, you just won't explain them at all ;)

Rand al'Thor

This one is audit-related, but that user doesn't mention being banned for failing the audit.

dcfyj

@Randal'Thor Makes sense I wasn't arround at the time

@Randal'Thor As for the sequel, that's a deleted question so I can't see it anyways haha

Rand al'Thor

3:38 PM

@Emrakul Meh, the first one was already linked here, and the second one will 404 for low-rep users anyway. I can go on about Doorknob's mod abuse if you really want, but I wasn't planning to :-P

There's also this audit-related complaint:

in Puzzles Etc., May 27 at 12:34, by Khale_Kitha

And I've run into, MYSELF, an idiot review test that I failed because it was posted by Gamow instead of someone else

But again, no mention of an actual review ban as far as I can see.

dcfyj

@Randal'Thor Interesting that there's a double standard there.

user61230

The audit system is pretty good about not banning people for false negative audits.

Rand al'Thor

> Data also suggests people aren't having a problem with audits

What does Star Trek have to do with anything?

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user61230

@Randal'Thor See, I think this is actually positive, because it shoves in front of people's faces the discrepant way we vote between users.

Rand al'Thor

(yes, you can tell which site I spend most time on these days)

dcfyj

3:41 PM

@Randal'Thor Those little life forms, of course :P

Deusovi

Yeah, I've noticed Gamow gets a lot of preferential behaviour. :/

(Well, got.)

Rand al'Thor

@Emrakul This sounds like "it's good to have a flawed system because its flaws point us towards bigger flaws". Surely it'd be better to eliminate the unnecessary flaws and then detect the bigger ones in other ways?

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dcfyj

Not sure what he did, but for a year+ ban must have been a lot or really bad or both

Rand al'Thor

(I probably didn't express that very well, but ...)

Deusovi

Gamow was only banned for two monoths.

Rand al'Thor

3:45 PM

@Deusovi Probably because half the users on the site are his socks :-P

Deusovi

Not a year.

user61230

@Randal'Thor In principle, yes, but in practice, it's turtles all the way down.

Deusovi

@Emrakul I don't understand what you mean there.

user61230

At some point the system's always going to be flawed. You have to pick which flaws you want to live with.

dcfyj

@Deusovi oh, completely misread that, for some reason I thought it said 2017

Rand al'Thor

3:47 PM

@Emrakul I said more or less this to someone in Mos Eisley earlier, and he accused me of saying "the place is full of sh*t, let's turn it into a toilet" or "I'm pretty hungry, might as well starve to death".

It's always fun to be on both sides of the same argument in two different chatrooms on the same day!

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user61230

Fair enough!

Rand al'Thor

So yeah, I can see your point. But in this case it wouldn't be hard to get rid of the particular flaws introduced by the review audit system.

Deusovi

I agree with Rand.

user61230

[shrugs]

Deusovi

(also, just letting you guys know - it's VTC time over here:)

-3

Q: Possible Valknot tattoo meanings

So I am thinking of getting my first tattoo, I found a simple symbol, the Valknot (below picture). I know one of the meanings is something to do with slain warriors. But it doesn't apply to me in anyway. I am asking about other possible meanings of this tattoo because I'm only getting it if it ...

riddle visual history symbols unsolved-mysteries

user61230

3:49 PM

My indifference to review audits has grown to spectacular proportions.

Rand al'Thor

(Thanks for your answer on meta btw, @Emrakul - but I can't upvote it because I got my Vox Populi badge today!)

Deusovi

Well yeah, you haven't had to deal with them!

user61230

@Deusovi I have, I swear! I've been audited here and elsewhere more times than I can count!

Rand al'Thor

@Deusovi Heh:

Deusovi

Yeah, I saw that

Great work, everyone! :D

Rand al'Thor

3:51 PM

@Deusovi Also, migrate to Mythology?

Welp, deleted by OP.

You could still leave a comment there directing him to the Mythology site.

@Deusovi See how well a low quality post detection chatroom would work? :-)

Deusovi

@Randal'Thor I was convinced before, but seeing it in action is great

It's like having my own little close-vote brigade - even better than modhammering!

Rand al'Thor

Also, wow, the star-board has been active in here in the last couple of days.

Aha, and in perusing the star-board I discovered that problematic review audit:

Mar 30 at 13:34, by Khale_Kitha

I fail to see any reason why this failed review (http://puzzling.stackexchange.com/review/first-posts/18242) is not a math problem per the description in http://meta.puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/2783/are-math-textbook-style-pr‌oblems-on-topic . Even the answer states that it's solved with "Simple algebra". There's no "clever solution", or "unexpected result" here.

And a CM even came in to respond to that:

Mar 30 at 15:47, by Jon Ericson

I'm actually not sure why we have review audits on Puzzling:

Mar 30 at 15:48, by Jon Ericson

If they are causing more problems than they are worth, we can turn them off here.

Mar 30 at 16:01, by Jon Ericson

I'm actually curious why we turned it on without a meta post. But not quite so curious to ask myself. ;-)

Deusovi

Hm. Welp, I'm all for turning them off.

Rand al'Thor

@Deusovi You want to propose that on meta, or shall I?

Deusovi

I'm not nearly as eloquent as you.

Rand al'Thor

4:03 PM

Aw, thanks :-D

I've learned a lot in the process of writing up meta posts on SFF.

But I'd appreciate your help in formulating arguments against the audit system, especially since you're actually higher than me in most or all of the review queues these days.

Ankoganit

Er, what do you do when you can't get anagrams off your head?

It's like whenever I see a word I see the letters moving about...

It's weird :(

Rand al'Thor

@Ankoganit I get that all the time. Congratulations, you've been infected with the puzzling bug!

Mithrandir

@Ankoganit You create anagram puzzles!

user61230

4:19 PM

@Ankoganit You create mraaang puzzles!

Deusovi

@Randal'Thor Hm, I haven't had too many issues with it though. Mostly just mild annoyance.

@Emrakul You create ram-a-nag puzzles!

user61230

@Deusovi You create mangaar puzzles!

Deusovi

And maybe even bad tricycle-cusp too!

user61230

It's time to make semordnilaps.

Sid

@Deusovi What is tricycle cusp??

Deusovi

4:21 PM

Well, when something is not quite a three-wheeled children's toy...

(It's an anagram of "cryptic clues".)

Rand al'Thor

@Emrakul Um, I put that into the Internet Anagram Server and the top result was "misleads porn". I hope that's not what you meant ...

Maybe it's "islander mops". Those damn blue-eyed islanders are going to attack the oracle with mops!

Deusovi

@Randal'Thor That's not even an anagram!

Rand al'Thor

@Deusovi ?

Deusovi

macmillandictionary.com/us/buzzword/entries/semordnilap.html

I mean, if you count the identity permutation as anagramming...

manshu

Last time I saw this many people in a room, we had different mods.

Deusovi

4:25 PM

Hey, manshu!

manshu

hey

user61230

@Randal'Thor Misleading porn, interesting genre.

Rand al'Thor

@Deusovi Well, Emrak put an S on the end! How was I supposed to know it was a plural?

user61230

"palindromes" ;)

dcfyj

@Emrakul Apparently that's an anagram of "misleads porn".

Rand al'Thor

4:26 PM

@manshu I've made the place interesting again :-D

manshu

hehe...

Rand al'Thor

@dcfyj No, "mislead porn".

manshu

I wish I could join but I have lost the essence of puzzles now

Deusovi

@manshu Solution: Solve more puzzles!

manshu

I can't find any unsolved puzzle of my type.

dcfyj

4:29 PM

@manshu What type is that?

manshu

usually riddles, rebus, wordplay. In short... all the possible genre of bad quality puzzles :p

dcfyj

Apparently the only unsolved riddle on the site has cryptography in it. Interesting.

Here's a fresh one, hot off the brain.

Deusovi

"Hot off the brain" - I'm gonna have to start using that.

dcfyj

haha, I was wrong though, it was sandboxed first apparently.

Plus I didn't post it.

manshu

I just saw...'gravity' can be an answer..

dcfyj

4:34 PM

It's been a while since I took physics, but isn't gravity considered a force?

GentlePurpleRain

@dcfyj There are 12 riddles with no answer and 178 riddles with no accepted answer.

Deusovi

Yep, it is.

dcfyj

@GentlePurpleRain Odd, I searched the tag and went to unanswered

Sid

Everyone does know gravity.... Doesn't fit with the 2nd line...

dcfyj

or the 4th

manshu

4:36 PM

@Sid not everyone knows physics

GentlePurpleRain

@dcfyj That is odd. I just did the same and got only 2 (one was just posted).

@dcfyj Ah. The rest are closed.

Sid

Maybe, the answer is inertia...

dcfyj

@Sid pretty sure that's a force too

@GentlePurpleRain some are just locked, but basically the same thing

Sid

a property of matter by which it continues in its existing state of rest or uniform motion in a straight line, unless that state is changed by an external force.-inertia

Rand al'Thor

@manshu I was about to point you to this riddle that I've been puzzling over for a few days, but then I found the solution myself :-)

Deusovi

4:39 PM

Inertia's not a force.

user61230

Inertia's a feeling.

manshu

@Randal'Thor I couldn't solve it.. :p

@dcfyj duh, told ya.. :D

dcfyj

oh well haha

@manshu You're still in the running

manshu

The second line of the puzzle fits on me. :p

Rand al'Thor

@dcfyj Wait, why is that locked? "Disputes about its content"??

dcfyj

4:46 PM

@Randal'Thor No idea

Rand al'Thor

@Emrakul?

dcfyj

@Randal'Thor Possibly this?

and this

Rand al'Thor

@dcfyj But if it's plagiarism, why not just delete it?

@dcfyj The "contest" stuff was only relevant to earlier revisions of the post. It was edited to become a completely different question.

Heh, the deleted answers are a riot!

dcfyj

@Randal'Thor Yeah I'm seeing that

@Randal'Thor not seeing that

user61230

@Randal'Thor Wasn't sure what to do with that one. I can't roll it back to the first revision and unlock because the first revision was from a contest, but if they want to ask a new puzzle they should ask a new one without editing an old question.

user61230

4:53 PM

Also, it appears to have been copy/pasted, though it also looks like it was edited into a chestnut puzzle.

dcfyj

@Emrakul Those roast pretty well I hear.

user61230

@Randal'Thor You know as well as I do that there aren't very many lock reasons available, and that that's the go-to reason when nothing else fits.

Rand al'Thor

@dcfyj Three deleted answers: "Take this question down. We will have to find out who you are and disqualify you.", "hey this is cheating shut up!!", and "THIS IS CHEATING GET YOUR ASS BACK TO SLACK".

@Emrakul Indeed I do ;-)

@Emrakul You could redact the earlier revisions to remove any reference to the contest question.

user61230

@Randal'Thor That's not really what revision redactions are for; plus, it's sort of a band-aid over the problem.

user61230

I think I'm probably going to delete the question and ask them to post a new one/singular question.

Rand al'Thor

4:58 PM

Yeah, that works too.

dcfyj

@Randal'Thor Make the question redacted?

Rand al'Thor

Especially since they're likely not even interested in the riddle but just edited it in as (to steal your expression) a band-aid over the problem of being caught cheating in their contest.

@dcfyj Heh, the mods should redact some of the revisions of that question, just for meta comedy value :-P

dcfyj

@Randal'Thor That would probably work better if there wasn't an edit history

Rand al'Thor

@dcfyj Which is why I suggested redacting the edit history.

Rand al'Thor

5:14 PM

Woo, Mortarboard badge on meta.PSE! :-D

manshu

@Randal'Thor what is it for?

Rand al'Thor

@manshu Hitting the repcap.

manshu

my last message rhymed :p

Rand al'Thor

Except that there is no rep on meta, so in this case it's for getting enough upvotes on meta that I would have hit the repcap if there was rep there.

manshu

There would have been too many users on meta if there was an increase in rep on some upvote. People like to distribute their knowledge for free. Including me.

Rand al'Thor

5:20 PM

@manshu Yeah, I like the fact that there's no rep on meta. It encourages people to vote more freely (especially downvoting answers) and to present their views without worrying about being 'popular', getting upvotes, FGitW, etc. People worrying about rep or competitiveness shouldn't be able to affect site policy.

manshu

yeah... We need only three kinds of people on this site:
1. who care about this site.
2. who posts good puzzles.
3. who posts good answers

Rand al'Thor

There is a rep system on main meta, though I can't understand why some people (coughEmrakulcough;-) ) care enough about it to get loads.

Puzzling — BOUNTY!

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Q: You'll need Thomas Jefferson more than you'd expect - Clue Twelve

<---Previous clue "[redacted]," you say aloud, following the instructions. And then a light shines through a crack in the wall, spreading until it shows an outline of a door. Then it swings open. As the door opens, you get the light right in the face. As you squeeze your eyes shut, you hear t...

enigmatic-puzzle story

manshu

@Emrakul is a professional rep farmer :p

Rand al'Thor

@Puzzling—BOUNTY! Hey, I was already working on that one before there was a bounty on it!

manshu

5:26 PM

People need indications in the puzzles that need show to show how to solve the puzzle... and then there are enigmatic puzzles.

Rand al'Thor

So @Mithrandir, I think I've worked out the general method which needs to be used to solve it, but I'm not sure exactly which part goes where.

user61230

I. Hey. Hey now.

Sconibulus

@manshu Well he's really bored, being all stuck in the moon and all

manshu

5:42 PM

@Emrakul You have the most rep when it comes to the meta rep. So, we give you the award of the most-metarialistic-person-of-PSE.

where metarialistic = excessively concerned with meta posts.

Rand al'Thor

I bet there's a Data.SE query to find out how much rep people would have on a per-site meta if there was rep there.

user61230

@manshu ....I do like me some meta...

dcfyj

@Emrakul Someone should make a cereal called meta-o's, you'd buy them out :P

manshu

@Emrakul err...is that your speech on this award ceremony? I mean, that's all?

Rand al'Thor

> I'm so meta, even this acronym.

manshu

5:53 PM

Emrakul's true name is Atemrakul.

See the puzzle in his name?

Rand al'Thor

@manshu I.e. @Emrakul.

dcfyj

@manshu You mean it's not a reference to a Magic: The Gathering card? :P

Rand al'Thor

@Emrakul <-> Lukar meta.

manshu

@dcfyj I have never played this game

dcfyj

@manshu Emrakul from Magic:The Gathering

manshu

5:57 PM

Pack your bags people. He is gonna throw us all out of this room for having excessive fun.

There are some games I wish to play..but I can't due to the limit of time...which reminds me...I have some homework to do...

catch you later.. :D

Mithrandir

Wait, why did I just lose like 70 rep not from the bounty?

Ah, I see - the question about Andrew's widow's sister was removed, thereby removing 75 rep from me >.<

...I thought that you couldn't delete answered questions?

Apparently, it was removed 'for reasons of moderation'. Why? @Emrakul @Deusovi @GentlePurpleRain

user61230

Suspension evasion.

Mithrandir

Ah.

Rand al'Thor

> Emrakul is the Diamond of Corruption, the largest and most fearsome of the Modrati. She does not affect unpuzzling matter - scifi, programming, etc...but twists all things puzzling, be it riddles, ciphers, or logic puzzles. She causes silent terror wherever she soars, embodying moderation, emotional and physical distance, the chill of the meta, and the terror of being suspended.

@Mithrandir Mods can delete anything, and enough 10k users can delete even answered questions.

user61230

@Randal'Thor literally me

user61230

6:11 PM

Liking the Eldrazi/Modnazi replacement.

Rand al'Thor

@Emrakul I thought I'd better not use that replacement :-P

user61230

It's important to be accurate in all things.

GentlePurpleRain

6:35 PM

@Randal'Thor Virtual Meta Reputation for User X

3

Mine's apparently 11000+

Rand al'Thor

@GentlePurpleRain Danke!

@GentlePurpleRain Isn't it 5000?

dcfyj

Mine goes up a whole 25 rep! lol

Avigrail

What are you on about?

Rand al'Thor

@Avigrail How much meta rep we'd have if there was rep on meta.

GentlePurpleRain

@Randal'Thor I dunno. When I ran it on my userid (4421) it came up with 11068.

Rand al'Thor

6:39 PM

Rep that's even more imaginary than normal rep!

Avigrail

Is this a rep battle?

Sconibulus

mine looks like 765? which feels way too high

Rand al'Thor

@GentlePurpleRain Have you set the site to meta PSE rather than just PSE? I got 28k at first, but then switched to meta and got 2k.

GentlePurpleRain

ah.

Yes, 5064, then. That makes sense. The other seemed awfully high.

Avigrail

@GentlePurpleRain Purple rain, why is that?

Ink?

dcfyj

6:42 PM

Ah, that's makes much more sense, 17 rep lol

GentlePurpleRain

@Avigrail Just a random assortment of words, in an attempt to find a username that wouldn't conflict with others.

(It's succeeded in that regard)

Avigrail

That's disappointingly simple

Sorry but our date is off

GentlePurpleRain

So the algorithm must not be perfect, since on Puzzling main it gives me more rep than I actually have.

Looks like it doesn't take bounties into account, for one. I guess those don't exist on meta, though.

Sconibulus

it doesn't look like RepCap matters for it either

GentlePurpleRain

@Avigrail I learned much later, when people kept making references to Prince that he had a song and album with that title

Avigrail

6:48 PM

GentleRumplePain

Prince is nice

You know "Kiss"?

dcfyj

@Avigrail "Keep It Simple Stupid"? or the band?

Avigrail

RentalPurpleGain

Prince - Kiss

(Does this work)[youtube.com/watch?v=6bMSr-quuTo]

Nope

How do I link inline here?

Link

Ahh

GentlePurpleRain

7:02 PM

Emrakul only has 8905 virtual Puzzling meta rep? Seems implausible!

Puzzling — BOUNTY!

7:18 PM

20

Q: A princess fell in love

Once upon a time there was a princess. She fell in love with a prince, wrote him a letter and sent it via Celeste, who was always willing to help. The prince was Laniff III and was in love with the princess, too. However, there were a lot of political issues between the two k...

enigmatic-puzzle story steganography

user61230

7:52 PM

I'm wondering if a Chrome/TamperMonkey extension for Puzzling would be of any benefit.

user61230

I'd totally be willing to start that project up.

GentlePurpleRain

8:13 PM

@Emrakul To do what?

Rand al'Thor

@Avigrail +1 :-D

Or, given @GentlePurpleRain's "about me" description, PentalPurplePain.

GentlePurpleRain

8:33 PM

@Randal'Thor Given your "about me" description (specifically the pedant part), shouldn't that be PentlePurplePain?

Hmm... I think my description might need "pedant" added to the mix. Can't believe it was missing...

Rand al'Thor

@GentlePurpleRain Isn't Pental actually a word while Pentle isn't?

GentlePurpleRain

@Randal'Thor Didn't think either was. Dictionary.com backs me up.

Rand al'Thor

Hm. I'm probably thinking of something else then.

Areeb

@GentlePurpleRain a chrome extension could give notifications or a feed of recent questions

Sconibulus

Pental is much easier to argue as a word

it clearly means 'related to the property of five-ness'

Rand al'Thor

8:52 PM

@Areeb It's easy to make a feed of recent questions show up in chat.

Huh. @Emrakul has forgotten to change the room owners of the Sphinx's Lair since the election.

Feeds

GentlePurpleRain has added GentlePurpleRain to the list of this room's owners.

GentlePurpleRain has added Deusovi to the list of this room's owners.

Rand al'Thor

@StackExchange Conflict of interest! :-O

:-P

Feeds

GentlePurpleRain has removed Doorknob from the list of this room's owners.

GentlePurpleRain has removed Kevin from the list of this room's owners.

GentlePurpleRain

:)

It probably doesn't really matter who the owner(s) is/are, because mods have more powers anyway.

Rand al'Thor

Sure. But it's symbolically nice.

Areeb

9:01 PM

@Randal'Thor with a chrome extension, it would show up in your browser,

Rand al'Thor

Even I have all the mod powers in this room.

Areeb

You could also add all sorts of puzzling tools, anagram solvers, cipher solvers, etc.

GentlePurpleRain

@Areeb An auto-solver, that looks at the question and presents potential solutions! :P

Deusovi

@GentlePurpleRain (All the "potential solutions" are "vote to close".)

Areeb

You could even add moderating tools if you liked, check against puzzle databases(if there are any) for duplicates or something

@GentlePurpleRain that would be an interesting project!

Areeb

9:47 PM

What happened to Peanuts rep? It's down to 1.

Rand al'Thor

@Areeb Peanut was suspended? :-o

Deusovi

Yes, he was.

Rand al'Thor

> This account is temporarily suspended because of low-quality contributions. The suspension period ends in 7 days.

Well, 7 days isn't too long.

Areeb

@Deusovi oh figured

user61230

@GentlePurpleRain I'm not sure. Consolidate a few userscripts, add interactive features, who knows.

Areeb

10:12 PM

@Emrakul this seems like a good opportunity for me to get into javascript. Only if I wasn't bogged down with school work

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