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12:03 AM
@bobble I listen to 100 gecs so I'm not really one to shame others for their media preferences lol
 
i've not heard of 100 gecs, what stuff do they do?
 
a genre called "hyperpop" - it's... an acquired taste
 
color me intrigued
 
Some comments from YouTube on their song "money machine": "This song sounds like pouring the milk, then the cereal, then the bowl", "This is the musical equivalent of injecting an energy drink into your veins", "Finally an autotune that doesn’t use an artist"
 
ok, now I'm coloured intrigued
 
12:08 AM
a brief listen has confirmed that those comments are accurate
it's very profanity-colored, kiwi, fair warning
 
@Sciborg oh true - should've mentioned that - "toothless" is pretty clean - only one reference to weed
 
"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words are merely the smallest element of language capable of containing meaning in isolation and as such can never directly produce the four thousand Newtons force per square centimeter required to break bones."
thanks for the warning though :)
 
:p
 
well... that was... a thing
 
it's really quite the experience
 
12:11 AM
I'm going back to my weird tastes now :P
 
gotta go and actually do ethics-related work during my ethics class lol
 
ethically?
 
ethics are for lawful good scrubs
chaotic good is where it's at
 
here's hoping lol
neutral good - best of both worlds :)
 
what alignment is Wonka?
 
12:13 AM
either chaotic good or chaotic neutral, probably the former
 
weeds out a bunch of innocent children to make the last one the heir of his company? chaotic neutral
 
Innocent? He exposed sinners, using candy-themed traps, and punished them accordingly. LG paladin does not discriminate by age.
 
hmm.... perhaps
maybe we compromise and declare him a CG paladin
especially considering he "rescued" an entire tribe of living creatures and made them work and live in his factory
 
have you considered the events of the space elevator?
 
i have not
 
12:22 AM
are you aware of the space elevator?
 
been a while since i've seen the movie
 
it was a movie?
 
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory?
 
the sequel?
Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator is a children's book by British author Roald Dahl. It is the sequel to Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, continuing the story of young Charlie Bucket and chocolatier Willy Wonka as they travel in the Great Glass Elevator. The book was first published in the United States by Alfred A. Knopf, Inc. in 1972, and in the United Kingdom by George Allen & Unwin in 1973. Although the original book has enjoyed several screen adaptions, The Great Glass Elevator has never been adapted for a visual medium; however it was adapted for audio by Puffin Audio Books starring...
 
i... did not know there was a sequel to the book ;-;
looks like i missed out
 
12:24 AM
the grandparents take de-aging pills which are effectively time travel
and then the re-aging is also time travel
 
that sounds vaguely like i might have read it as a kid
 
honestly one of my favorite roald dahl books
 
i'll add it to my reading list :)
ooh, should also make myself a lil pride month icon
 
change the hat!
 
my Photoshop skills are a bit lacking to do hat-changes :p
 
 
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1:40 AM
Is it just me or is Puzzling really glitching on mobile?
For me the chat still works but not the actual website, urgh
 
2:17 AM
@Dmihawk hold on... this is darn familiar but i forgot where it came from
 
?
oh, I should try following the link :P
yeah it's a Vsauce quote
 
epic i also remembered just now
(not just a link to the video, it's the actual timestamp where vsauce says that quote hehe)
 
3:01 AM
i'd change my avatar for pride month but i'm not entirely sure how i'd do that
 
 
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4:02 AM
puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/110324/… tried making a new puzzle because I saw that my first puzzle was deemed too easy in comments
I used to solve NYT crosswords in 2016, but cancelled my subscription
(and after all I have been given intensive study in maths and comp sci and I am a Singaporean, so I don't know much about America)
I have participated in maths olympiads, but not puzzling olympiads
how am I doing?
 
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Q: The Jade Rabbit's present

Parcly TaxelThe Jade Rabbit hopped up to Chang'e with a plain white box. "I've got a present for you!" "Another elixir of life?" the immortal moon goddess sighed. "I've lived through so much. The horrors of past centuries, I want to get them out of my head but can't!" Reluctantly she took the box. "That's wh...

 
4:19 AM
First, one person's comment is not the universal consensus on your puzzle
"Too easy" is an opinion, and it would be better phrased as "I find this easy enough that it is not fun/interesting". That doesn't mean everyone else will think it is "too easy"
Second, I'll link some meta posts which you may find interesting
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Q: The many-eyes effect

xnorI want to alert puzzle writers to a potential cognitive bias I'll call the many-eyes effect. Many people try to solve your puzzle, but only those who succeed post. It's tempting to imagine the posters as typical solvers and forget the many invisible people who tried and got stuck. As a result, yo...

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A: How to make a riddle tricky without too many clues to make it easy but enough to avoid "too broad"?

RubioThis answer attempts to give guidance for puzzles in general, and riddles in particular where so noted. How does one know what is the acceptable level of "difficulty" To know if your riddle is "acceptable" in difficulty, you first must know how difficult it is. Alas, rating your own p...

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A: Difficulty rating on questions

DoorknobAnd who's supposed to judge the "difficulty rating" of a puzzle? If it's the original poster of the question, that's almost certainly going to be subject to lots of bias. "Oh, I don't want beginners to see my question and annoy me with too-easy responses, so I'll just rate myself '5 stars.'" "I ...

 
Conclusion: make puzzles that you, and hopefully others, find fun and interesting. There are lots of people who will think you got the level wrong, no matter what you do.
@Mithical 'tis busy
 
I'd make the background half transparent, but I'm on my phone and that's a bit of work
 
perhaps my amateur photoshop skills can be of aid?
 
perhaps indeed
 
4:27 AM
the bobble will keep this pretty white background
 
one moment
looks a bit too ghost-y, maybe
maybe the green needs to be darker?
 
I wrote the Jade Rabbit puzzle as a story because I am a good RPer
(not a D&D type, a furry type)
 
TMI
 
the rainbow virus has infected mith as well, it seems
 
đź‘€
 
4:40 AM
join usssss
 
I mean, I already have, it's not like I need extra convincing
 
(quick note that please no one put a rainbow background on my avatar; I would not consider that funny, and I really really don't want it)
 
in that case, have a free virtual cookie
@bobble will not touch avi, no worries - we only did matt's because he said he would want one :)
 
@Sciborg nom nom
@bobble (thumbsup)
 
avatar-photoshopping consent is important
 
4:45 AM
I am also a MLPFIM fan
 
@Sciborg or it might work better with just the plain rainbow
 
maybe, yeah - i'll wait for matt to get back to ask him what he wants
 
Sid
4:58 AM
I will be surprised if "To be honest" is not the definition in this CCCC
 
I'm still nursing LEGITIMATE solely for L_ E_ at the front, but I can't make it work
 
^ same
German can be G apparently, and there might be letter/s switching due to "trading places"
 
PRINCIPLED stood out to me as a 10-letter word for "to be honest", but no clue about wordplay
 
Sid
@oAlt I think trading places could even indicate places where trading occurs
Like Stock Exchange
 
5:18 AM
Maybe yeah
Won't be surprised in general if samm82 has a trick or two up his sleeve
 
5:55 AM
@bobble It kinda works
 
6:18 AM
Is it permissible to edit a question before it has received any answers to polish up the puzzle (make the steps less obtuse, e.g.)?
 
sure
 
@Anonymus25-ReinstateMonica Do tell.
@Sid or just "honest"
The answer could be CONSTABLES but "leaders" is a stretch (but makes sense if put in as a red herring) and, um, I don't see how the wordplay would work at all. :-)
 
help is MARITIMATE because if you're writing "help" on the sand and waving your shirt around to passing ships you are probably near the sea... then MARI (french man, or husband in this case) changes places with G for german (accidentally leaving the I behind), and GITIMATE behind Law Enforcement's leading letters completes this perfectly plausible explanation which does not contain any holes
 
likewise INSPECTORS, DETECTIVES
@Jafe that must be it! Go ahead with the next one.
@Sid German trading places are Börsen . . . fwiw.
 
i wonder what "frenchman" could be used to clue... maybe a french male first name like ANDRE or some famous french person like HUGO.... could also be HOMME although surely it would more likely be "french man" as two words in that case
 
6:27 AM
The last one is a bit tricky since I don't know of any words containing "homme" meaning "law"/"honest"
 
@msh210 or Märkte / Märkten
 
i think law enforcement leaders is much more likely to be the letters LE than the definition... you'd probably define something like COMMISSIONERS differently unless you were trying to actively misguide people
 
7:31 AM
@msh210 Law Reinforcement leaders is LE, frenchman is MATE, just need GITI for German trading places. German=G, with just one probl2m
 
 
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8:50 AM
why would "Frenchman" be MATE?
 
9:36 AM
@Jafe Yes, I agree LE is most likely. Was merely pointing out another possibility.
 
ah, but it is LEGITIMATE
we have LE (law enforcement leaders) + MITIGATE with G (German) and M (Frenchman) trading places
@samm82 Solution to your CCCC is LEGITIMATE = LE + (MITIGATE with G,M swapped).
 
ah nice
@Sciborg Is June 15th the ides of Pride's?
hides
 
10:02 AM
ohh, that's clever @samm82 , though I have to ask: in what context does 'M' mean "Frenchman"?
 
@oAlt monsieur is abbreviated "M"
 
got it :D thx
 
wx
 
:D
 
10:26 AM
Do PSE users work on puzzles collaboratively in secret rooms?
 
I dunno, I make my puzzles by myself, and not many turn out well
 
@msh210 The Ides were on the 15th in some months but the 13th in most. The Pride's Ides would be the 13th of June.
 
@GarethMcCaughan what is a CCCC?
 
@ParclyTaxel Cryptic Clue Chat Chains
2 days ago, by Gareth McCaughan
CCCC is Cryptic Clue Chat Chains! Latest clue is ⤴/⤵ there! Join the fun! See Deusovi's Cryptic Clue Guide and GPR's Archive & Statistics of past clues.
 
Also, please remove "Reinstate Monica". Monica has left the building
 
(We in East Asia are used to living with seemingly arbitrary dismissals. "Oh, that's something, just move on." And particularly at the Maths Stack where I came from, I remember a similar response from the mods there)
 
Done, it may take time for the effect to happen to chat
 
It's certainly true that she has no interest any more in being reinstated. On the other hand, imagine the following situation: you live in a country whose regime sometimes does unjust things; they do something unjust to a particular person; you put up a poster saying "JUSTICE FOR SO-AND-SO"; eventually that person gives up hope of justice and emigrates; it's understandable if you feel that justice hasn't actually been done and that you shouldn't take down your posters.
On the other other hand, it's not clear that the posters have any real chance of doing any real good at that point.
(I am not saying that Stack Exchange necessarily is like that unjust government; only that someone who puts "Reinstate Monica" in their username may well consider that they are, so they won't necessarily be impressed by being told by someone else to move on.)
Though in this particular case it seems to have been OK :-).
 
Freenode was the subject of a hostile takeover I think last month. All the staff resigned, formed LiberaChat, and it's been a massive success (because Freenode is just another implementation of IRC)
 
I had that username change when I first read about Monica on Worldbuilding
And that was 2 years ago
 
10:39 AM
Yeah, the FreeNode -> LiberaChat thing worked out very well for the LiberaChat guys. It remains to be seen whether Codidact ever attracts a substantial fraction of SE's userbase.
(That's where Monica Cellio is now.)
 
@GarethMcCaughan So she got a new job? Good for her (Though we would need more mods on SE, lots of the mods today are SUPER afk all the time)
 
@ParclyTaxel Only for creation, and only very rarely.
 
@Anonymus25-ReinstateMonica Dunno whether it's a job as such, but being a Stack Exchange moderator wasn't a job either. Stack Exchange were never paying her.
 
I only learned about the Monica affair when I saw usernames being changed to refer to it
 
@Anonymus25-ReinstateMonica It's not really a job. She was never a staff member at Stack, just a volunteer moderator. (She's legally on the board of directors of an actual organization at Codidact - as am I - but it's also voluntary and unpaid.)
 
10:50 AM
Because I've been answering/asking (mostly) on mobile for a few years now
I sometimes mispronounce Codidact as Co-dic-tat
 
@ParclyTaxel Count yourself lucky, I guess.
@ParclyTaxel *squints*
 
@ParclyTaxel Dunno whether it helps to remember that "didactic" means "to do with teaching"?
 
@GarethMcCaughan That makes sense, but it would make more sense if we had like a Codidact & SE collaboration
 
@Anonymus25 That seems very unlikely to happen in the foreseeable future.
 
SE weren't interested.
(weren't? wasn't?)
 
10:57 AM
@GarethMcCaughan I haven't totally forgotten about Codidact, however. I peeked into the project when it started, then just moved on. Eventually I misremembered a few things and Codidact became something like Cody Cat, then Codictat. I don't need to write it down that much, so there's not much of a problem
How is TopAnswers doing?
 
Never heard of TopAnswers
 
Apropos Pride and Rome, those who haven't already read it might enjoy Scott Alexander's piece "Gay Rites are Civil Rites" at slatestarcodex.com/2019/07/08/gay-rites-are-civil-rites (warning: some of his commenters are weird right-wingers, though mostly fairly civil and interesting weird right-wingers).
 
@ParclyTaxel Trundling along fine, I believe. I don't head there often, since they're mostly aimed at a technical audience.
 
@GarethMcCaughan I don't get a word you said. You lost me at "Apropos"
 
@Anonymus25 It's a type of chip, kinda like "bugles" in the US.
(:
 
11:02 AM
"Apropos" means roughly the same as "concerning" or "speaking of" or "on the subject of". There were some jokes earlier about the Ides of Pride (it's funny because it rhymes).
The rest of the sentence after the first four words seems perfectly clear to me, so if you found it incomprehensible I'm not sure how to help.
 
@Mithical How should I know that, I'm Indonesian :P
 
I wouldn't expect anyone here aside from maybe @msh210 to know that "Apropos" are a type of chip...
 
@Anonymus25 Hello, neighbour
(Singapore technically has a border with Indonesia. A sea border)
 
@GarethMcCaughan (I actually knew that but figured that the inaccurate joke would be understood and the accurate one would not, so....)
@ParclyTaxel It's another implementation of IRC? I thought it is an IRC network.
 
@msh210 Heh. I read something a while ago -- of course I can't remember enough details to find it again -- about one problem for writers of historical fiction: there are lots of real historical that look like anachronisms.
 
11:15 AM
@Mithical depends where you're from
 
@GarethMcCaughan Tiffany.
 
ah yes, I'd forgotten the term "Tiffany Effect" or "Tiffany Problem". (If you write a historical novel and someone in it is called Tiffany, everyone will think you've hopelessly failed at realism, but in fact the name goes back to the 13th century.) I'm still not finding whichever specific piece it was I remember reading on the subject a couple of years ago, though :-).
 
@GarethMcCaughan Well then, Breakfast At Tiffany's will go bankrupt :)
 
I think the point is that most people think the name Tiffany isn't much older than Breakfast At Tiffany's, but in fact it's much much older than that.
(afk for a bit now)
 
 
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Sid
12:55 PM
I think I may have got Legitimate to work as the CCCC answer.
but I don't understand one aspect of it.
 
@GarethMcCaughan @Sid that's epic, but Gareth beat you to it :P
 
Sid
Aaaghhhhh
 
Same
 
 
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2:10 PM
@GarethMcCaughan Yup that's it! I fought between "Frenchman" and "French man" for M, but settled on "Frenchman" because I think it fit the surface better and Wikipedia's abbreviations included it - not the best benchmark, but I think it worked
"Law enforcement leaders" was originally "The French", and while it would've worked with the surface, I've always found "[article] [language]" wordplay to be a bit too obvious lol
 
Nice
 
2:25 PM
@samm82 We all pretty quickly caught on to "Law enforcement leaders" anyway, so you probably coulda used "The French" with no harm done. But I like the version you used. "French" twice in that clue would be an awkward surface IMO.
 
CCCC: King getting even with consort, having no place to run away to (6,5)
 
True - "leaders" is a bit on-the-nose as well lol
 
 
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3:58 PM
"place to run away to" could be the def, and "no" could be N
There are other possibilities though, and even more for the first half of the clue...
 
4:22 PM
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Q: 100 Prisoners and 3-state clock

Retudin100 Prisoners and a clock seems far too easy on the prisoners, so the exact same question, except that they must change the clock by exactly 4 hours: There are 100 prisoners who are given a chance at freedom. The prisoners are randomly picked to visit a room where there is only a nonfunctional wa...

 
4:40 PM
@oAlt That's probably the def, else he'd've used "nowhere".
Unless "place" is PL or something.
 
 
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7:23 PM
Just resharing an ongoing puzzle context : logicmastersindia.com/live/?contest=PR202106
 
8:18 PM
howdy folks
 
who* + d(-a)y = howdy
 
ummmm, yes?
one day, I will jump in here with a greeting which doesn't create a tangent :P my normal "good morning" always seems to end with timezone discussions, so I tried to be timezone-agnostic this morning
 
sorry for ruining it D:
 
8:40 PM
haha you're all good, I'm just grumpy because it's Thursday and I ruined my tea :(
how is the bobble?
 
wishing for a Time-Turner so I could get another day on this project
 
puzzling.stackexchange.com/a/110335/75318 I can confirm that some of the answers to the first-level clues I provided in the Jade Rabbit question are correct (the incorrect ones are noted)
 
too much to get done?
 
there's just a lot of documentation to do, worried I might have to cut corners
this is compounded by documentation being boring
 
blegh :P
 
8:49 PM
*noted in a comment
Is there any difference between changing a question before I get a (useful) partial answer and after that point?
 
You want to avoid chameleon questions.
 
loving the background @Mithical :)
 
I have not re-edited my question yet; I have simply left comments noting which of Vicky's decodings are right and which are wrong
 
@Dmihawk ^.^ special for June
 
9:13 PM
1, 11, 121, 1331...
 
isn't that Pascal's triangle?
 
yeah I accidentally sent an I, I just changed it to something random
 
9:44 PM
How do I make preformatted text in a spoiler block?
 
>! `text`
 
I want multi-line preformatted text
Apparently the software cannot handle that; a ! fails to have its intended meaning
 
the world is not yet ready for such a technological advance
 
the world Javacript is not yet ready for such a technological advance
 
when you try to use a spoiler block along with anything else, SE flips a coin to decide whether it will do what you want or break completely
 
9:51 PM
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A: How can I put a whole code block in spoiler text?

hammarYou can do it using HTML >! <pre><code>def invisible_function(): >! print 'Eeek! I feel so naked!'</code></pre> This results in some extra padding, though.

As I recall, one of <pre> or <code> isn't required, but I haven't had to do it for a while so I don't know which
 
@Deusovi OK I edited such a spoilered code block in the Jade Rabbit question, along with another hint set. Feel free to complete Vicky's answer
 
I have the other two words, but no idea what to do with them
wait, never mind, I don't have the other two
 
which "other two"?
 
oh, I meant other three - my guesses for those were all wrong
 
I added word lengths too in the recent edit
 
10:08 PM
yes, that's how i knew they were wrong
 
In hindsight I should have added the word lengths first, otherwise the following permutation cipher portion would be too hard to solve with a reasonable amount of work
 
10:28 PM
@GarethMcCaughan GRETNA GREEN = GR (King George) + _E_T_N_ + AGREE (Consort) + N (No) = 'place to run away to'
 
Is "having" a no-op?
How often do tag scores update?
And do deleted posts count?
 
@bobble Deleted posts don't count, I think, towards tag scores. As do community wiki posts, even if the post is made CW later
 
What prompted those questions was this user profile: puzzling.stackexchange.com/users/75327/santiagokodela
ack, hit enter too soon
anyways, you can see they have tag scores despite having no posts (posts were deleted)
 
i think that answers the question of whether deleted posts count
 
There's a possibility that the database hasn't updated yet or something
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A: Does negative vote count in score gained in tags after deletion

AzikThe scores(negative or positive) on deleted answers will not be calculated on tag scores. The tag scores are calculated on daily basis, so the tag score will be updated within a day of deletion.

okay, a day must pass first
 
10:36 PM
ah
 
11:30 PM
@Stiv nice solve and nice clue @GarethMcCaughan
 

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