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7:00 PM
DId we try MARS BARS
no that's plural
 
Morning -> AM?
 
If there's one thing I know, it's food; especially junk food
 
@BeastlyGerbil I suggested that
 
Sid
@BeastlyGerbil Ante-Meridian(I think)
 
Oh wait
Yeah I suggested that
 
Sid
7:01 PM
pre-Noon 12 hour timing system, that is.
 
I'm thinking market is the def, but I have no proof of this
 
Sorry must have missed that suggestion
 
could candy-coated mean C_Y somehow?
 
Hm, possible, actually
 
7:01 PM
or would that be candy coating?
 
Candy-coated is most likely candy around copper
 
Sid
Are people here evil enough to do Candy as C and Y?
 
I can't see morning market being the definition, so I'd imagine its either a candy bar or another word for market
 
msh210 is evil enough to do a crossword with symbols and not tell us
 
Market as a def can mean many things as well, a physical market, a verb as in to sell or advertise
 
7:03 PM
no offense, but "you are evil" was my reaction to that when I saw the answer
 
that's better
 
thanks Mith
 
Thing is, I don't really know 4,4 (words) for market
 
Sid
Indeed. Market as def has a lot of possibilities.
So, that's possibly a dead end.
 
Is there a specific market with that enumeration?
 
7:04 PM
Maybe?
 
What's the name of that famous market in Seattle? No I think that's Pike's Place which is (4'1,5)
no, just Pike place
one letter off
You know, the fish-throwing place
 
Hm, maybe (word) SHOP?
 
Sid
Regardless, it is unlikely it will be a specific name of a place, right?
 
No
It would be the market if it's a specific place, I think
More likely a synonym of market
 
The fact its (4,4) suggests to me that candy is the def
As theres a lot of candies that are two words
 
7:06 PM
Hm
 
Whereas market is difficult to find even one example that fits
 
Does it have to be in English? I believe Lukas is Austrian, and Austria may have candies that none of us have heard of
 
Sid
@BeastlyGerbil hmm. What would coated do there, then?
 
Even if I'm wrong about the country, my point still stands
 
@BeastlyGerbil I highly doubt it is Copper inside Morning for... reaons
 
7:07 PM
could "coated copper" mean "c_r" and the cu is a misdirection
 
@ThePuzzlingPlatypus it won't be anything too obscure
 
@PrinceNorthLæraðr ah... good point now I think about it
 
Inside could be a hidden word indicator
Probably not
Nope
 
Sid
That SHOP idea seems likely to me.
 
7:09 PM
Yeah
 
Sid
That's probably copper = COP coating(surrounding) some candy?
 
Copper=COP?
Hm
 
Sid
@PrinceNorthLæraðr Copper is a British term for the police, iirc
 
@ThePuzzlingPlatypus It's not a german term, no.
 
@Sid Ah, did not know that
 
7:10 PM
@LukasRotter OK that's fair then
 
So probably C... SHOP
 
Cryptic clues can be evil and I don't know the limits there
Chop shop?
as in an illegal parts store that gets parts from stripping cars?
 
four letter word that ends in SH meaning candy?
 
Black markets are still markets, aren't they?
In some sense of the word?
 
HOPSH isn't a candy, I don't think
Also, not sure what morning is doing than
 
7:12 PM
First phrase that came to mind
I'm better at regular crosswords
I understand how cryptic clues work in theory but I just can't parse them
although sometimes I can see through the definition or get parts or something
and I have solved a few
just not many
I've only managed to write one
 
@Sid it seems to me that "X-coated Y" would be X around Y, not the other way around
 
OK so while we disagree on the specifics, we agree that coated is an indicator
which probably means that we're right on market being the def
 
'coated' may not be an indicator
but if it is one, it should apply in the direction i said
 
Candy-coated makes me think sugar-coated
 
sugar-coated as in "phrased in such a way as to not hurt the listener's feelings?"
Is there a two word phrase for that?
 
7:16 PM
Probably not
 
hm, there might be, but i think "candy-coated" is a bit too indirect for that
it's an option though
 
Candy-coated... maybe like a two word phrase for caramelize?
 
or glaze?
Glazed was the first word that came to my mind
when North said tht
 
Glaze is good, but Z is a bad letter for a sub-string
I still think it's probably candy around copper
 
yeah, copper could be something along the lines of COP, or maybe CU
 
7:19 PM
Inside... is most likely an insertion indicator right? I can't think of it doing anything else
 
could be
could also just be a synonym for IN
 
True
COPINAM
Is not a word :P
Is there like a two letter word for candy?
 
Wasn't there a clue at one point that used copper in the D&D sense?
 
@PrinceNorthLæraðr Police officer in Armenia, maybe :P
 
ON the main site I think
I think it was Graylocke's
but I could be wrong there
 
7:22 PM
Are there other words/abbreviations for morning?
 
could copper be "cp" lke that?
 
Ooh, possibly
 
I only have 5 minutes left until I need to get back to work
 
Though CP is a bad letter pairing
 
I know, but I know the clue I mentioned exists
 
7:23 PM
@ThePuzzlingPlatypus Codenames
 
@bobble That was it, thank you
 
in Codenames, Dec 19 '20 at 21:43, by bobble
coppers = small coins
 
wait that was your clue?
 
yep
 
thank you, that may eventually solve this
 
7:24 PM
Oooh maybe copper is like PENNY or PENCE or something of that sort
P or D or CU
P as in Penny
 
I have just under 2 minutes until my lunch break ends, so I have to leave
 
@ThePuzzlingPlatypus none taken! :-)
 
Candy around P is possible
oooh
Or P inside AM makes APM okay never mind
I typed it wrong the first time and it made AMP, and I was like, ah hah!
PIN could work
 
PIN?
 
P(enny) IN
As a sub-string
 
7:28 PM
Ahh
 
(Just to put in my two coppers.) The only thing I've thought of that hasn't been mentioned so far is that "coated copper" could be WIRE or the like.
 
I'm currently brewing a conspiracy theory that "morning market" might refer to a stock market abbreviation, i.e. DOW or SP
 
oooh, very likely
 
Someone suggested "Candy" = C and Y. If so, then maybe "morning" = M or NING. ;-)
@Sciborg why "morning"?
 
7:30 PM
Ah don't think it's C and Y
 
Stock markets open in the morning. Could also just be "market" though and "morning" is separate.
 
@PrinceNorthLæraðr nor I, but I consider it a possibility....
 
@msh210 Stock market trading. Like day traders?
 
But the S&P and the Dow are not "morning market"s. They're indices.
 
Yeah. I was just spitballing - i know very little about stock markets
 
7:32 PM
I thought market is most likely the definition, since "Candy-coated" sounds like "[word for candy] around...".
 
Hm
 
But finding a short word for candy is a challenge
 
What about M&Ms?
M_M?
 
Oooh
Only problem is that it doesn't really interact well with COPPER
Especially if copper is CU
 
True, yeah.
 
7:35 PM
MCU? :P
 
:p
Trying to think of short candy names that start with vowels
 
"Candy" could be the definition for NINA CHEN but then I don't see how the wordplay would work. Copper could be the C (cent), but that's about it.
Candy could also be a non-count noun and clue a plural brand name like MILK DUDS, I think.
 
ahhh. didn't even think about MILK DUDS
no clue about the wordplay...
 
PEEN TONG is a candy too. Just throwing it out there; I don't see any wordplay for it.
 
yeah. i'm inclined to think definition is "market" too now, there's no candy that would make sense to me
maybe something like MINI MART or MINI MALL?
 
7:39 PM
YARD SALE isn't really a "market", right?
TURO RUDI is a candy, too, fwiw.
gtg; bbiab
 
@Sciborg Perhaps
Oooh MINI is interesting
 
how so?
i guess it does contain "IN" which could be something
 
If it is M&M* or something
 
hm
i do really like M_M, but it does not play nice with CU, CO or COP
what on earth is up with the copper, i can't figure it out
 
Yeah, I don't know
 
7:46 PM
looks like we have a lot of new friends here, hello
 
Oh, it's Mike Q!
 
Greetings friends
 
Salut
 
I don't think we've met before :)
 
7:47 PM
Are we being raided by RPG.SE? :p
 
@PrinceNorthLæraðr Hey, it's been a while. Looks like yall are still doing the CCCC.
 
So I was directed here as I have need of some assistance.
 
Sure, what's up?
 
hello! what in particular do you need help with?
 
My work has deemed it necessary to perform a 'team building excercise' on Wednesday
 
7:48 PM
@MikeQ Yup. Somethings never change :P
 
and to that end, I have been given a list of three words
 
@Sciborg Why yes, yes you are.
 
And I have to describe them in a manner that my colleagues may guess what they are without using the actual word
 
Similar to codenames?
 
@ThomasMarkov Is it because we've been doing a DnD campaign? :P
 
7:49 PM
So I need some help coming up with riddles for the words 'pen', 'pie', and 'tree'
 
will your colleagues have a limited list of possible words?
 
Nice to see fellow tabletop nerds hanging about :p
 
@bobble Not as far as I am aware
 
specifically a riddle? or just a description meant to clue the word to them, like in Taboo?
 
Well, the idea is for us to just describe the words and for our collegues to geuss, but I wanted to make it a riddle specifically
 
7:50 PM
one riddle for all of them, or separate riddles for each?
and do they have to be interesting?
 
one each
 
Any particular length?
 
for example, "common writing tool that isn't a pencil" will bring "pen" to mind, but it's not interesting
or even just "word following 'ballpoint'"
 
Interesting isn't a requirement, but it's certainly a plus. We have 1 minute of guessing, but it's unclear if it's per word, or total
 
it sounds like a riddle would not be ideal, especially if it's 1 minute total
 
7:52 PM
though I would have to lean on total, since there are 9 of us and it's supposed to be a short exercise
 
"Ballpoint or felt tip, for example" would be something for "pen"
 
If you want a riddle it'll have to be quite, short probably 3 lines max
 
There's probably crossword clues where those are the answer too; such as "mightier than the sword"
 
Sid
Or you can probably do it old quiz style and give clues with reducing difficulty.
 
Something that doesn't just give the actual definition is preferred. Also, there are no 'starts with' or 'rhymes with' clues allowed
 
7:54 PM
yeah, it looks like some clever crossword-type clues would be better than riddles
 
I would be OK with that.
 
what kind of workplace do you have?
 
Or a one liner riddle, such as 'what gets older when it rings' for tree
 
Medix's suggestion looks good for PEN; for PIE, i might suggest "It might be apple, cherry, or humble"
not difficult, but should be fun
 
"Tree" is fun
 
7:55 PM
(meaningless rant) Ah yes, teambuilding events. I will call in sick next time that happens in my company. Was absolutely agonizing last time (pre-covid, physical presence). Spent the whole day doing silly tasks in groups, which doesn't work well with my 4% extraversion :P. Would've rather worked 12h for free that day. I hope they have a 'crawler' spying on employees and read this message :P
 
Alternative suggestion: "It's a number you can eat"
 
Edible number?
 
i don't like that one personally, because pi and pie are different things
 
@LukasRotter Yeah, I wouldn't do any of that either. For us, these are just short things we do sometimes during our weekly check-in meeting. Nothing lasting longer than 15 minutes usually, and nothing significanlty physical.
@Deusovi Yeah, but they don't have to spell it, just say the word out loud. That one will probably be fine
Actually, I may just use that one.
 
sure, but those aren't really the same word
your choice though
 
7:59 PM
I think it gets made a pun of enough to not be too difficult
Which reminds me, puns are also acceptable. The more groan inducing, the better
 
@RevenantBacon That's always true though
Gotta work now
 
@RevenantBacon Trick or Tree! :p
Endless street? Ooh that would make a good CC
Though, I guess it would be ends as in edges, not end
 
8:20 PM
Hmm, well you guys have certainly given me some good ideas, thank you very much for your assistance.
 
No problem!
 
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8:46 PM
TAKE FIVE is a candy, too. And again I don't see the wordplay.
 
Never heard of the candy
 
so is MARY JANE, apparently
 
I thought Mary Jane was Marijuana :P
 
Could "Candy" be "C and Y"? It's been a while since I've done any of these CCCCs so I dunno if that's valid.
 
Ha! Three people have suggested that already
 
8:48 PM
that was considered above, I think
 
I don't think Candy as C and Y is particularly fair
 
@PrinceNorthLæraðr that too
@PrinceNorthLæraðr not unheard-of, though
 
Anyhow, I don't think C and Y would work, given what we have to work with
We have Copper is COP, P, or CU
 
or D or C
or PO or PD or the like
 
CDY, CCY, CPY, CCUY CPOY, CPDY.. none of these are words
That's really the maine reason why I'm not inclined to think candy is C and Y, because those two letters aren't particularly... friendly letters to work with
We would either need a liquid consonant (l or r) or a vowel combination that means COPPER
 
8:53 PM
DET (detective), PC (police constable), MP (military policeman), DI (detective-inspector), PO (police officer), PD? (police detective?), D (pence), C (cent), P (pence), CU (element). I doubt it's COP.
But I've all along thought that "market" is the most likely definition.
 
It is possible "candy-coated" is the def for like a synonym of SUGARCOAT or smthing
Oooh, PLAY DOWN is a synonym
And DOW as market or morning marker?
 
@PrinceNorthLæraðr wrong tense though, methinks
 
Maybe "candy-coated" as the definition, ____ ICED, which is [morning] [market] around C? But then "market" would end in ED, which seems unlikely.
 
9:00 PM
"market" could conceivably be HARD SELL or SOFT SELL (as a verb). Again, though, I don't see the wordplay.
 
Yeah
Oooooooh wait!
 
waits with bated breath
 
Say copper is CP, right?
 
CP?
 
Oh wait nope
 
9:01 PM
Why would we say that?
 
copper piece?
 
copper piece, DnD thing
 
like gp
 
I thought it was CP around morning which makes CAMP
 
got it
 
9:02 PM
But it's copper inside morning
 
ACPM!
 
ACPM which is not as appealing
 
There must be a duplicate for this question here somewhere, since well-known mathematicians have literally written a paper about it. Can't find it, though :/
 
I can't find anything either
 
9:17 PM
Apparently ASAICHI is "morning market" in Japanese. The probability that that fact is relevant to this C4 is estimated at 0.001%.
 
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Oh, I see. "Coated copper" must be a policeman wearing a coat, i.e. COLUMBO. (Kidding.)
 
This is a near duplicate, but it sets n to a fixed value of 12 so I guess it's not a duplicate
 
"Candy-coated copper" could be half of the good cop / bad cop pair, but I don't know a (4,4) word for that.
(Also, it'd probably require a "?" at the end.)
 
9:47 PM
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