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3:19 AM
hi @Alconja added a hint to ease your progress
3:36 AM
Q: Here's a riddle, so listen up yo

Rewan DemontayI'm from Italy, yet I speak English On top of that, my name is French I hail back from the late nineties galore Last in 2016 did I release lore Until then it has been a decade But we never truly did fade One of us is the key One of us flies the wind One of us controls sound Together we...

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5:02 AM
Just so I am clear, what's the site's official stance of reusing different themes of puzzles(like NATO Phonetic alphabet)? Is that considered to be a duplicate of the original?
It depends on what you do with it, I guess.
I'd even say that some puzzles wouldn't be solvable if the phonetic alphabet (or element symbols or ISO country codes or A1Z26 or Morse code) weren't such a staple. So a simple code involving the phonetic alphabet may not be a duplicate, but it usually isn't an interesting puzzle.
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6:09 AM
@MOehm I've never seen that term before -- A1Z26 -- though obviously I know what it is from context. I like it. (Not sure what I would've called it, but definitely something much more long-winded.) Is it standard nomenclature?
It's not uncommon in puzzling circles, IME. Although most people won't know what you're talking about.
@Mithrandir Well, yeah, I meant in puzzling circles. :-) Thanks
As Mith said: It's a terse way of saying A=1, B=2, C=3, ... Z=26 around here. I guess it's anomenclature that was made up on the spot and stuck.
Another Gareth C4 that remains unsolved for days...
6:29 AM
Yes. Gareth is good at making C4s that allow for for a large variety of constructions and defs.
6:47 AM
While we're kind-of on the topic, gematriya (should be Googlable) is an old and standard way of assigning values to letters in Hebrew, also used in Hebrew puzzles. It works by assigning the 1-9 to the first 9 letters, 10-90 for the next 9, etc. Is the corresponding thing used in puzzles in English? Z would be 800, for example.
Yes, that has also been used here, especially in the "What is an X word" series.
(But in the Latinized form, where A=6, B=12 and so on, so that you can get words that correspond to 666.)
7:26 AM
@MOehm A=6, B=12? So what's =1, then?
Nothing. You can only get multiples of 6.
@MOehm Why?
I mean, I understand why you can only get multiples of 6 -- because that's how the system is set up.
But why set it up that way?
And how does it work? Is it 6 .. 60 for the first ten, then 120, 180, .. 540, 600, 1200, 1800, ..?
I guess it is so you can get 666 and 888 with short expressions. Those numbers have a meaning in Christian numerology. See here for a puzzle involving Gematria. The accepted answer has a useful link. The Hebrew Gematria seems be more akin to the Greek number system.
8:17 AM
Q: What happens on Day 6?

SidMy friend, who works in a Library, has recently learned about Puzzles, in general, and Puzzling Stack Exchange, in particular. He was excited and has sent me this puzzle to "test" the users of PSE. Can you rise to the occasion and explain what happens on Day 6 and where it happens? Day 1: Cop...

8:31 AM
@MOehm Interesting. Thanks. (And I like that puzzle you link to.)
8:44 AM
@Sid I'm not familiar with the CCCC mores. Should we work together, brainstorm ideas?
If you have loose or even concrete thoughts, feel free to share them. (But don't be disappointed if they help someone else to set the next C4.)
@MOehm (Re your last point.) That'd be fine, that's the risk in working together.
Fire away, then. :)
I do hope others will chime in, too, though.
I've tried several approaches, none of them really successful. Given that there was a bout of "marshall" clues recently, I'll state the obvious and say that a marshall can be a kind of American policeman. But I don't see how the wordplay could work.
8:59 AM
American = [policeman synonym/hyponym] surrounded by [Middle East synonym/hyponym]
Middle East = e (rightmost char. of Middle)
Middle East could be ME, I think. At least, it's the ME part in the more pouplar EMEA. Or it could just be MID + E or CORE + E or some such.
stationed in the Middle = i (middlemost char. of stationed)
in the Middle East = some demonym ("Egyptian" for example) as the non-cryptic portion
I don't think Gareth would clue E as "Middle East". Neither do I think that he'd clue a location in the Middle East as just "in the Middle East".
But Egyptian does not mean "in the Middle East". Someone from the Middle East, okay, ut not just "in the ME".
@MOehm it's weak, I'll grant. Like you said, I'm throwing ideas out there...
You like your -nyms, don't you?
9:03 AM
I am trying to think if only American could be the def.
one way is mentioned above: American = [policeman synonym/hyponym] surrounded by [Middle East synonym/hyponym]
could even be [policeman stationed synonym] surrounded by [Middle East synonym/hyponym]
Policeman could be cop or something And "stationed" synonym inside ME
or that, yeah
I would ask @GarethMcCaughan for some hint but he would say something along the lines of, "at least one of you is right about at least one thing"
9:06 AM
not sure what the answer would be if American is the definition, though. I couldn't find any synonyms of American so went to names of Indian tribes (Cherokee) and state demonyms (Georgian), both of which are weak
could middle east be AS, as in the middle part of "east"?
or was it so that capitalizing "Middle" would be improper in that case
I'd say it could, if the C4 were set by Rubio. As is, I think it unlikely. (The capitalisation is irrelevant, I think.)
@jafe yeah. That's also a likelihood.
Like Oehm said, it was much more probable if Rubio had set the C4. Hardly seen Gareth use that type of construction
hey @sid, did you intentionally left what happened in Kiev in your puzzle blank?
^No. Nothing happened on that day in Kiev.
9:15 AM
ok thanks!
(I think I know what happened on each day, but not where.)
Yeah. The "where" part is different from the "what", if that helps
been looking at it for a while and all i have is "i think it's a capital"
Yes, that was my idea, too: We are looking for a country, but my one idea didn't work out.
(It looked good in Copenhagen, though.)
@jafe exactly
9:42 AM
@MOehm i know now as well!
Reading educates!
@MOehm yep but then day 2 doesnt match...
#Elasticity... @MOehm
is that a word lol... you get what i mean ;)
Yes. I guess someone somewhere is conducting a test on condoms.
But where?
@MOehm day 1 was fine, but then day 2 was 1 which was not two-digit!!
I think the Vienna in question is the one in Austria, not the one in Vriginia.
9:51 AM
@MOehm 45,1,8,44,21?
@MOehm yep
the series was good in day 1, bit of stretch in 2, and makes no sense on the other days...
Q: Did someone ever see this puzzle? Do you have a solution?

Alex Almasy Hello everybody, Has anyone ever seen something like this? I don’t even know what I should do with the puzzle... Any suggestion or help is welcome!

10:08 AM
I can give a hint for the C4 if it's wanted (maybe a letter?). A couple of constructions have been mentioned with comments like "I don't think Gareth would do that"; I am making no comment on whether either is used in this clue but I don't find either of them very objectionable and as a general remark you shouldn't rule either of them out if solving one of my clues.
Actually, to be a little clearer about one of them (with, again, no comment at all on whether it's got anything to do with this clue), I wouldn't use "in the Middle East" as a def for, say, ISRAEL, but I might use it for ISRAELI or for "inserted into ISRAEL".
10:21 AM
I am starting to think that this is actually a double def
10:32 AM
is "cop" a US-only term? that could be the "american policeman"
i know they say "copper" in the UK but not sure if they use "cop" as well
also, "fed" is a (type of) US policeman
In the UK we never say "cop". It is always Police or Polis/Bobbies
11:15 AM
"Cop" is definitely American but everyone in the UK knows it.
"Feds" is pretty well known over here too but of course no one would use it to refer to the UK police. There are some UK-specific police forces that don't have direct equivalents in the US, of course.
(As usual none of the above should be taken to indicate anything about my clue.)
Are UK policemen "officers"?
I will say -- again, with no comment on the particular clue -- that I would have no hesitation in using "feds" or "Met" or "Yard" or other very well known local police forces in a crossword clue, if it seemed appropriate.
Yes, UK policemen are officers. (I am not 100% sure that every policeman is an officer, but for sure many of them are and I don't think it would be very unusual for someone being accosted by the police to address one of them as "officer".)
Ah, thanks. To me, officer always has a certain military ring to it. From detective stories I know that in the US, there are police captains and detective lieutenants. (But there are police sergeants and constables in the UK, too, so there are also similarities to the military.)
I think police officer might be the yellow jacket police and policeman/woman are the black jacket police with handcuffs, spray and baton
12:21 PM
another idea: policeman stationed in the middle = mansta, anst, vel sim.
@Adam I think of "polis" as distinctly Irish, but that may be because the people I've heard that term from happen to have been Irish. ... I looked it up, and OED says Scottish, Irish and NE English.
@GarethMcCaughan Polis is a very Scottish term... greetings!
"Bobbies" to me sounds deliberately old-fashioned. I suspect the typical usage is tabloid newspapers deliberately evoking nostalgia in order to get their readers angry about something that's changed over the last 50 years.
I asked Google, and the first two things it found that weren't (1) other meanings or (2) works of reference were: a "practical service which aims to bring peace of mind to the vulnerable and elderly" organized by one local police force and an article in a right-wing UK tabloid paper talking about how a right-wing UK politician is proposing to "put an extra 20,000 bobbies on the beat". I think I pretty much nailed it.
Hmm. Maybe my puzzle is really close to "guess what I am thinking".
(I mean, neither example is actually a tabloid trying to make people angry, but both are deliberate evocations of nostalgia probably aimed at older readers, and one of them is actually from a tabloid.)
12:28 PM
^^Not the "what happened" part, for which there is a rather obvious clue.
@MOehm I would legit be surprised if the "what happened" is solved earlier than the "where"
Yea the usage of "Bobbies" is really weird. Never heard of it outside stereotyping. I thought it might be common English slang but I guess I must be wrong
I agree with MOehm about the what happened
@Sid Well, I think I have a good idea of what happened or what whatever happened was related to, but I'm stumped at the location.
I think "Bobbies" was once common English slang.
I am 99.9% confident that MOehm and I both know what happened (at least in outline) on day 6.
(And Omega Krypton; see above)
12:36 PM
I will state something obvious that there's no clear clue for the location other than the few other locations you have. The "Where" is not connected at all, to the "what"
ah, got it
Well done. I should have tried to look at the series of countries in isolation. I tried to fit a number to each country and the +45 calling code for Denmark looked good.
The location is close but not fully right. The idea is correct, though.
Good morning, or your local whatever, friends
So do we want to take Gareth up on that C4 hint offer? I’m fairly stumped
i say yes
(also, hello)
12:46 PM
@MOehm ... because I do it wrong, or because Gareth and I have mutually distinctive styles? Heh
@Rubio Probably not as much as @North, though
@MOehm Oh, that would have been nice if it had worked.
Because you have different styles. Of course, I love you both. :)
CCCC hint: First letter is C.
Ok :) See Gareth, I told you the populace loves Moderators who Rule With An Iron Fist. I say we step it up a notch now, instead of August like we planned.
Oh drat, wrong chat room
12:51 PM
Hmm. Policeman being "Cop" is quite likely now...
Oh, Rubio, now you've given it away and we have to accelerate the Plan. Send in the black helicopters.
This is what happens when you trust a dog.
People who trust me get what they deserve and deserve what they get.
1:16 PM
Q: Need help with an online puzzle / riddle

HermannI found this online riddle at m4tr1x.ws, but now I am stuck. It seems you need to gain deeper and deeper access to this virtual Matrix-style computer system. First you need to create an account via the register command. That is easy, after confirming via email you can login to the system. Afterw...

@Sphinx What is the implications of allowing this riddle/encryption puzzle on this site if it was accessed via the deep web?
1:31 PM
1. We generally require puzzles to be self-contained. In this case it's reasonably self-contained even though it references something elsewhere: the poster is saying "I found this puzzle in that place; any ideas on how to solve it?".
2. We generally don't allow puzzles that are part of an ongoing competition. I don't know whether the thing he's doing is an ongoing competition in the relevant sense; it may be worth trying to find out.
3. We discourage "puzzles" that are really being posted only in order to drive traffic to other sites. This smells a little like one of those, but only a little.
4. I don't think we care whether OP got to the puzzle by sacrificing their first-born child in a satanic ritual, following a trail of child pornography, hanging out with terrorists, etc. -- though, see #3, if their posting seems designed to encourage others to do such things then it might be a different matter.
Great answer! Might be worth documenting on meta
The main thing making me suspect #3 a little is that the user seems keen to detail the steps they took in order to get to where they are. But that also seems like potentially useful information for figuring out what they need to do next.
I may be giving the post too much credit for #1, though: it's not clear that it's a puzzle the rest of us can usefully solve unless we do the same thing as the OP did (which I for one am absolutely not touching with a bargepole).
(If we take it that the puzzle really is to find something that SHA224's to the thing given, then I guess it's something the rest of us could try to solve, e.g. by feeding the whole of a wordlist into SHA224 and seeing what happens.)
1:52 PM
It is actually a very old website. There are many wayback machine entries. I'm having a look to investigate #2
2:19 PM
It looks like an old community. People were registered in the thousands. Feels like a hacker indoctrination
The possibility of an ongoing contest can be seen in the image but there isn't much information
3:02 PM
So... I just finished making 10+1 puzzles... ( chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/50967487#50967487 )
and now it's being tested by a friend of mine (chaotic_iak)
Which one is actually better: should I post them one-by-one as a series.. or should I just post them in a single post?
If you put them all in a single post, how will you decide which answer(s) to accept?
Making a series feels much more natural to me. If you're worried about swamping the site, post 'em one a day or something.
(tho there are 2 versions of posting them one by one: either all at the same time as omega_krypton recently did, or one a day as jafe did with his geography)
@GarethMcCaughan oh good point
right, i'm leaning to post them one by one, at a pace of a day or so then. thanks btw!
3:29 PM
@athin jafe actually did both. on one occasion it was a 8+1 all at once: here
Q: Recycling old answers

jafeEach of the puzzles below gives a two-word answer. Solve the puzzles and arrange the resulting 16 words into four groups of four, each with a common theme. The resulting group names form a clue for the final answer. Written every which way A manager's dilemma Keeping you safe Coordin...

3:50 PM
I've seen both "all at once" and "separate posts" - I'd be fine with either. (Can't wait to see the finished product!)
4:14 PM
once-per-day probably gets more views than all together, especially if you interlink them together
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7:15 PM
Q: Getting one over on the boss

StivIn my job as a poet for a national newspaper I am rarely faced with ethical decisions. However, today was quite a challenge… The editor came to me this morning and said, “Hey, I’ve heard about this website – they call it the Puzzling Stock Exchange or something…” “Stack Exchange,” I corrected ...

7:56 PM
An eight-letter synonym for America is Columbia. But (a) that's America, not American, and I can't seem to find a related word that's eight letters long and means American, and (b) I don't see how it'd be 'policeman stationed in the Middle East'.
8:15 PM
Q: The Binomial Elks Club

JS1The Binomial Elks Club For many months, Bill Gates had heard whispers of an exclusive club for the super rich, but when pressed, no one would provide any details. The secrecy surrounding the club piqued his curiosity, so he hired a team of private investigators to find out everything they could...

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9:55 PM
Q: Farmer needs to get his word across the river

SlowMagicIn the spirit of the classic river-crossing puzzles: Problem: The word PLANS is on the west shore of a river, while the word PAINTER is on the east shore. The farmer needs to take his word PLANS from the west side to the east side. However, he can only cross the river with one "chunk" at a time...

10:14 PM
@OmegaKrypton yep, i just used the more recent example hehe
Q: Cube Scrambling

mackycheese21Take a normal 3x3 rubiks cube (the Classic unmodded cube). I know the WCA method for scrambling is to pick a random (valid) cube state and calculate a sequence of moves to go from solved to that state, for the convenience of the competition scramblers. AFAIK, this is a very hard thing to impleme...


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