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12:12 AM
Anyone for Codenames?
 
12:26 AM
I would, but I have to get started on my FTC puzzles.
 
 
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2:32 AM
@Sp3000 WIN+KING
I like that one :)
 
oh, that is indeed clever
but I'm sure when I saw the clue before it had a different (not-winking) smiley face
 
Something to do with browsers probably
In my Chrome, it doesn't show up at all
So I had to google that character
 
2:56 AM
Yeah it's meant to be the WINKING FACE Unicode char - I was going to do ;) but thought some might argue that's "wink" not "winking" :P
 
3:14 AM
For the C4, i want CONTINUE to work meaning "carry on", with "untie" somehow gaining +"con" and anagramming indicated by untie, but it's not coming together
i guess that would be an indirect anagram anyway
 
Gareth already said it's not CONTINUE
 
oh, ok
 
 
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8:14 AM
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Q: What is an EEEEE Word™?

RubioIn the spirit of the What is a Word™/Phrase™ series started by JLee, a special brand of Phrase™ and Word™ puzzles. If a word conforms to a special rule, I call it an EEEEE Word™. Use the examples below to find the rule. $$ % set Title text. (spaces around the text ARE important; do not remo...

 
9:05 AM
-3
Q: Can you unlock the MechBox?

Andrey Sklyarov Mechanical Box is a set of puzzles. Imagine a steel cube that you twist in your hands, trying to find secret buttons and understand how the hell are you supposed to open it. That's what the MechBox looks like. It is a high-tech device created with only one purpose: to store and protect an unkno...

 
Hm
Why does delete not have a spam reason anyway
 
@Rubio it's in destroy, if you mean the user.
Can someone please ping me with an apostrophe in the beginning of the ping for a test?
 
'@Mithrandir
 
@'Mithrandir
 
9:18 AM
^Like that?
 
Yeah - that just seems ... harsh.
 
@Wen1now not like that
like this: @bobo I've decided to give you a ping
 
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Q: Who get the biggest piece?

Ashwin IndianicThis is a puzzle by the famous mathematician Pythagoras, who is widely known for his theorem on triangles. Here is a Puzzle: A huge pie is divided among 100 guests. The first guest gets 1% of the pie. The second guest gets 2% of the remaining part. The third guest gets 3% of the rest, etc. The l...

 
@Mithrandir (see TL)
@Mithrandir 'like this?
@Mithrandir I'm sorry - or like this?
 
@Mithrandir I got that
 
9:22 AM
I don't got that, what are we talking about now?
 
I was trying to reproduce a bug.
 
@Mithrandir Ping, you buggy wizard. I've got nothing better to do than ping you all day long, apparently.
Then again, @Mithrandir, I'm actually a sock, so I'll excuse you for taking up my time.
Then again, @Mithrandir, I'm actually a sock, so I'll excuse you for ta'
 
9:37 AM
Good night all.
 
@Rubio Good night!
 
So normal messages work fine?'
@boboquack but not pings?'
 
They don't show up in the inbox, soo...
 
@boboquack but actually not pings?'
Self-pings seem alright
 
9:52 AM
@wen1now '
 
you can't ping yourself without replies or superpings.
 
Superpings?
 
Another mod superpower
It can take up to 3 @ symbols to summon a user.
 
@@<site-userid>@<sitename>.stackexchange.com
or
@@<chat-id>
is a superping
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Q: What is a 'superping'?

ᔕᖺᘎᕊI've seen the word 'superping' be used across SE meta sites. What does it mean? Is it just a synonym of the word 'ping' (ie. using @ followed by a user's name to give them a notification in their inbox).

 
I could ping you with: 1.) @wen1now 2.) @@254945 3.) @@32642@puzzling.stackexchange.com
 
10:01 AM
4.) :message_sent_by_wen1now
 
That's a reply, not a ping ;)
 
Wait... so only mods can superping others, but you can superping yourself?
 
yep
 
heads to sandbox
 
@Mithrandir ping
 
10:05 AM
@Wen1now you can reply to yourself too
 
Yep
Yeah, I was also wondering if that would work
 
1 message moved to Sandbox
 
10:56 AM
@Randal'Thor (sorry for very late response) yeah, sabbath=Sunday is a thing in Scotland and probably actually elsewhere too (consider e.g. the old "Monday's child is fair of face ..." rhyme, which ends "But the child who is born on the Sabbath day / Is bonny and blithe and good and gay" and seems to come from Devonshire).
I still say it's wrong, even if it's a venerable error. (Well. Actually I think words mean what they are used and understood to mean, and if lots of people somewhere think "sabbath" means Sunday then in that community "sabbath" does mean Sunday. But I wish they didn't :-).)
 
 
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12:06 PM
Well, it's been a while since I've made one of my customary calls for delete votes ...
@Beastly @Tech @ffao Can we delete this exact duplicate (so that we can then vote to delete this rather crappy riddle)?
Also, damn these high-rep users going and getting themselves elected so I can't ping them for delete votes any more :-P
 
I'm coming for that 3K don't you worry
 
Delete is 10k I believe
 
Okay well maybe not deletes
 
The poster of the original (yes, rather crappy) has been inactive here for more than a year. The poster of the exact duplicate posted it (again, >1y ago) and since then has done nothing else. I personally would not feel very guilty about deleting the exact dupe without waiting for "enough" non-mods to vote for it. I'm more on the fence about the original, which is bad but kinda harmless.
(I think the original wants hitting with downvotes rather than deleting, on the whole.)
 
Hmm. Wonder who voted to undelete this?
@GarethMcCaughan Do the two OPs seem to be the same person? If not, is the riddle plagiarised from somewhere?
It's weird that they're so similar to each other.
 
12:15 PM
I can't think why anyone would bother posting the exact same thing again with a sock, but I'll take a look.
 
to avoid self-dup closure?
 
If you post the same question twice with the same account, you'll get told off. If you use different accounts, it seems like an innocent dupe.
 
Side note - I got my first gold badge and I will begin my process of transforming into a puzzle piece
 
@n_palum Congrats :-)
Fanatic?
 
yeah, I understand that if you've decided to repost the same crappy riddle a week after you posted it the first time you might choose to do it via a sockpuppet. I just don't understand why you'd want to do it at all.
Congratulations @n_palum
 
12:20 PM
Lol yeah just fanatic
 
@GarethMcCaughan I've seen plenty of people doing that kind of thing. It almost makes sense if you really don't know the SE system. "Oh, something happened to my puzzle and now people can't post answers to it. Dunno what went wrong there - I'll try again."
 
Sid
@GarethMcCaughan any specific reason as to why you pinged me to tell about the answer of Rubio's father's day puzzle?
 
@Sid Because you'd asked a question along the lines of "what exactly do people do on Father's Day?".
 
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is ... pretty much what programmers do, right? Or turning the whole thing off and on again, as a special case.
 
Sid
...so, they make puzzles with the answer "FATHER" On Father's Day?
 
12:22 PM
There is no obvious-to-me evidence that poster #2 is the same person as (or working on behalf of) poster #1.
@Sid Well, at least one of them does :-).
 
@GarethMcCaughan Then I wonder what their common source for the puzzle is.
 
Poster #1 had in fact already posted a few (better received) puzzles on PSE before the crappy riddle, so it's not like he was a complete newbie. Anyway, I don't think there's anything much we'd do about it even if there were suspicion that poster #2 is a sock.
Oh, I'm sure poster #2's source was poster #1's puzzle. Don't you think?
 
Or maybe #2 plagiarised directly from #1. Though it seems weird to do that with a closed riddle ... there must be better things to copy from.
 
Sid
I was asking about more... Normal people.
 
Y'all should probably discuss your secret mod plans in your secret mod room :P
 
12:25 PM
Nah, nothing secret going on here. Nor, for that matter, any plans.
 
@Sid Then you're in the wrong place :-)
 
@Sid I'd like to see one of those someday! Do you know where they can be found?
 
Sid
Unfortunately, I haven't found one myself. :P
 
@GarethMcCaughan Did you hear that we're the same person?
 
@Rubio if and when you're around, I don't suppose there's any possibility that CHARMING is misclassified in your EEEEE Word puzzle?
meh, actually I just noticed another one that would have to be misclassified if my theory were correct, so scratch that. Investigating further.
 
12:31 PM
What was your theory? I thought Charming and another didn't fit
 
yeah, charming and unindexed fail to fit
 
That seems to be the logical answer, but CHARMING and UNINDEXED don't work.
@Rubio, would those happen to be mistakes?
 
Oh interesting...
 
no way are they just mistakes
I mean UNINDEXED is right there opposite INDEX
 
True...
 
Sid
12:33 PM
Seriously though, what do people really do on Father's Day?
 
Yeah both having DEX that doesn't work
 
so either (1) there's something subtle going on (probably a 5e versus everything-else distinction or something)
or (2) the whole thing is misdirection, in which case I'm inclined to say it's rather rude
 
@Sid You thank your dad for doing dad stuff, sometimes get them a gift or card, or spend the day with them. It's very informal.
 
@Sid Typically they'll give a gift (or just a card) to their father, maybe go out to dinner with them...
 
@GarethMcCaughan Rubio rude? Pff
@Deusovi My family took my Dad to the Chinese Lantern Festival while I was stuck up north D:
Gareth you confirmed Continue was not your 4C right?
 
12:38 PM
Yes, that was confirmed multiple times
24 hours ago, by Gareth McCaughan
I will intervene at this point to say that the intended answer is not CONTINUE. (It would be amusing if I'd accidentally made that an answer that fits the clue. I don't think I have, but anything's possible.)
 
Hm okay that's so misleading with untie in the clue
 
Sid
Huh, @Gareth are those two dashes/hyphens part of the clue?
 
@Sid They're part of the clue. Whether they're important is something we haven't figured out.
 
I should say -- and this is not intended as any sort of hint, merely as clarification -- that two consecutive hyphens are how I write an em-dash, and that I quite often use that particular piece of punctuation in ordinary writing.
 
@GarethMcCaughan you're right but not quite right. 5e only used for an (eventually) recognizable name, any ed would do. The seemingly out of place NON words are of course no accident -- the full rule addresses them, count on it.
 
12:49 PM
"Count on it" seems to be a hint.
 
@Rubio I have (in the last couple of minutes) updated my answer so that it does in fact match all the words
though I kinda hope it's wrong because the rule isn't super-elegant
and it seems like there are a couple of other variants that would do equally well
If anything like my currently-proposed rule is correct, then I commend to you the example in its last spoilered portion.
@Deusovi If the rule currently proposed in my answer is right then indeed "Count on it" might be a hint.
 
That'd be a less fun rule
 
You're right that it seems inelegant.
 
Certainly is. On the other hand, it explains all the data and it's not that inelegant. I expect it's wrong, but if so then @Rubio owes us some more positive and negative examples...
 
Atwist - Atwirl and Adexe - Nau are the ones that bug me
 
12:58 PM
Really? Weird.
 
They just seem like very specific words to pick
 
Catching up - one sec
 
Sid
Wow, this site has helped me learn so many new things that I hadn't even heard of.
D&D is one such thing
 
CONSTRAINT is NON.
 
Sid
Hm, TIL that SNAFU is a word.
 
1:04 PM
Hehe
 
OK, then the obvious move is to "contains one of STR etc., and has length <= 6". I expect that's wrong too, but again it fits all the data and isn't all that convoluted.
 
You perhaps learned some new Latino YouTubers, too.
@GarethMcCaughan it isn't at all wrong. There's a subtle reason for it, though it's not necessary to know that the rule is what it is. Hint - how are those scores created? How many words are in the lists?
 
They're created in a couple different ways. One common one is "roll 4d6 and drop the lowest".
 
The last time I played D&D they were created by rolling 3d6.
 
4d6 dropping one leaves 3d6 - seems good to me.
 
1:09 PM
18 words is interesting (though the normal range is 3-18 not 1-18, or at least was back in the 1980s)
 
Yeah, 3-18 is the range...
 
(it seems very odd for "how many words are in the lists?" to be a relevant question...)
 
One (well - 6) more thing to count
 
Rubio's probably hinting that they've nicely included 3 examples per stat
 
probably
 
1:11 PM
Yeah, I just noticed that.
 
Yar.
There endeth the mystery. It was a bit of fluff that popped into my head Sunday and I finally got around to writing it up. You'd be surprised at how few words of length 1-6 there are with DEX in them.
 
huh? how hath the mystery ended?
 
@GarethMcCaughan "You'd be surprised at how few words of length 1-6 there are with DEX in them."
 
(Keep reading.)
 
(also not getting it)
 
1:14 PM
Oh, so length <= 6 is part of the rule... because of D6es or something?
 
Yup.
 
The words are a hypothetical character's D&D stats? so CHA is 15 (from CHAI (4) + GOTCHA (6) + MOCHA (5) )
 
Um. OK, I guess.
 
^
 
Needs more counterexamples for the length part I think :P
 
1:15 PM
Three "values" 1 to 6; of course nothing less than 3 is possible Because. That's really all there is to it.
 
Fair enough.
Will edit my answer accordingly.
 
It's a bit annoying that EEEEE word-ship depends on other EEEEE words.
 
It doesn't - the rule is "has a stat abbreviation and is length 1 to 6".
Which of course really means 3 to 6.
 
Hm. Alright then.
Yes, I suppose it does ,Evan that.
 
Let's play "spot the mobile user". :)
 
1:18 PM
So the "three of each" thing was unrelated to EEEEE word-ship and just meant as an additional confirmer.
 
Yes.
 
Rubio's the mobile one!
Did I win?
 
No, we all have to agree on the accusation first.
 
mp[r
 
I hop the exploration in my ansible is Clare enough.
 
1:21 PM
(that's "nope" with hands shifted a letter right on a standard QWERTY keyboard)
 
(not actually on mobile right now, as it happens)
 
See Deus, this is why I should save stuff like that for Contact
 
Yeah, you probably should. Oh well.
 
random fact of the day: mobile homes are not called that because they're mobile, they're called that because the first ones were in a city called Mobile.
 
Huh, interesting!
 
1:22 PM
(though I bet the name stuck better because "mobile" means what it does, so it's not really quite true to say that they aren't called that because they're mobile)
 
Sid
wow. I actually had never heard of "mobile homes" in the first place. So, that's another TIL for todAY.
 
Y92bqg975bwy8r53eb70b9h3
Which is of course "how about shifted up one"
 
there I was hoping you'd given us your online-banking password
 
Clear it's base64 for... cݛ{2wyow
 
@GarethMcCaughan WHAT?! Wow, that's shocking to me. The fits so well...
 
1:25 PM
... whoa. By a complete coincidence, that base64 is my online-banking password.
 
begins the hack
 
Have at it. My bank account holds 3 biscuits and a few dogecoin
 
Sid
No wonder. I thought there would be more biscuits though.
 
doge biscuits?
(I will not reveal for how long I assumed "doge" was some sort of reference to the mediaeval Italian rulers. Fortunately I was never required to say it out loud.)
 
(I still don't think there's consensus on how to pronounce it (in terms of the meme).)
 
1:31 PM
I thought it was the same as old doge like Gareth referenced
 
@GarethMcCaughan To be fair, the only reason I understand your misunderstanding there is because of a certain mezzacotta puzzle :)
 
Holy cow, Gareth... Interestingly, not only are Mobile homes from Mobile, Alabama, but they were originally called Sweet Homes, named after Mr and Mrs Sweet who invented them. The song "Sweet Home, Alabama" by Lynryd Skynryd (sp) is in fact a remake of their advertising jingle.
 
"While there are few mainstream commercial applications, the currency has gained traction as an Internet tipping system [...] for providing interesting or noteworthy content. Many members of the Dogecoin community, as well as members of other cryptocurrency communities, use the phrase "To the moon!" to describe the overall sentiment of the coin's rising value. Thanks to crowdfunding efforts, a gold coin representing the cryptocurrency is scheduled to reach the Moon's surface in 2019."
What a wonderful world we live in.
 
I thought the meme had to be pronounced "doggy". How would anything else make sense?
 
Do memes have to make sense?
 
1:32 PM
... no.
 
Like dohj
 
@Sp3000 should it be obvious to me from the mezzacotta front page what puzzle you're talking about?
 
Nope (I would have linked to the specific puzzle in question but technically spoilers)
 
@GarethMcCaughan It's not obvious to me, and I did the hunt.
 
I vaguely remember Doge from history, but mostly from The Court Jester
 
1:35 PM
@Sp3000 ah, fair enough
 
"Doge (often pronounced /doʊʒ/ DOHZH or /doʊɡ/ DOHG)...."
I personally use the former.
 
I wish I knew IPA, but I pronounce it as "dove" (past tense of "dive", not the bird) with a soft G/J sound instead of a V sound
 
Is that an Australian thing?
 
I'd say "doubt it", but I don't actually know
 
I've heard /doʊʒ/, /doʊdʒ/, and /dɑdʒ/.
("DOHZH", "DOHG", "DODGE")
 
1:40 PM
I've heard the first two, not the last.
Dogecoin apparently only uses the first, for whatever that's worth, or at least so says Wikipedia.
Relevant?: puzzling.stackexchange.com/a/45645/30633 ... had to hunt for that heh
 
@_@
 
Pff.
IIRC there was a puzzle hunt puzzle that took the form of doge memes. I can't remember where it was from, though.
 
I suspect that would get old quickly.
 
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Q: A Knight's Kuromasu

David StarkeyAn entry in Fortnightly Topic Challenge #32: Grid Deduction Hybrids You are a knight in the king's army, and you've been tasked with constructing some walls. The problem is, as a knight, you are confined in your movement abilities. But, when the king orders you to do something, you'll have t...

 
Nah, not really. Maybe a bit towards the end, but the idea of having a doge puzzle was funny enough to keep it not-terrible.
 
1:53 PM
 
Ah, yep. That's the one I was referring to.
 
For those who wish to be spoiled: answer to the above puzzle
 
Sid
@Rubio thanks. You linking my puzzle got me a new badge.
 
:)
 
Too late to chime in? I pronounce it "dohg" (hard g)
 
2:00 PM
then we must FIGHT.
@Sid I really liked that puzzle btw.
 
Hm? Which one?
 
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Q: What is a VP Number™?

SidThis puzzle is based off the What is a Word™ and What is a Phrase™ series started by JLee and the likewise inspired What is a Number™ series. If a number conforms to a certain rule, I call it a VP number and if not, I call it a non-VP number. Use the following examples to find the rule: $$\be...

gah. THAT one.
 
Oh, duh. For some reason it didn't register that that was Sid's puzzle.
 
Sid
That reminds me. I haven't written a puzzle in a long time..
 
Gareth has you beat there.
... although given this CCCC, maybe that's not such a bad thing. Gareth is enough of a drain on my mental resources as it is ;)
 
2:10 PM
(I now have a puzzle idea but it has dawned on me that it probably won't be done this fortnight)
 
nice, @feelinferrety :) thanks for the comment.
 
@Sp3000 We believe in you
If it combines like 5 grid deduction puzzles you have to do it
 
Nah, too lazy to do 5 :P
 
I've done exactly one grid-deduction puzzle ever, and thought it might kill me.
 
I had a good ~~laugh~~ quick breath through my nose.
 
2:14 PM
This is one FTC that I will be sitting out :)
 
Dangit I can't ever remember which markdown rules work where
 
What puzzle are we talking about?
 
this works
--- it's this --- but without the spaces
 
I don't usually do grid deduction either because I tend to be paranoid and need to have programs for checking solution uniqueness (although that might be hard in this case so... maybe this can be a learning experience :P)
 
@Sp3000 Look to my minesweeper for inspiration! :P
 
Sid
2:22 PM
@Gareth maybe a hint is in order for the CCCC?
 
strike?
Yesssss
The rules I looked up LIED TO ME
 
I could provide a hint for the CCCC as suggested by Sid; would others like one too?
 
What's the CCCC?
 
yesterday, by Gareth McCaughan
CCCC: Carry on -- untie knots restraining dress (8)
but it's on the right, pinned
 
The Cryptic Crossword Clue Cabal.
 
2:34 PM
I think it's probably too early for a hint
 
@Sconibulus (that was my feeling too, FWIW, but I'm happy to obey The Will Of The People)
 
"The will of the people" - you mean you, and your sock army
 
Don't discriminate. We socks have to stick together.
Otherwise we get separated in the wash and never see each other again.
 
If your socks are sticky I imagine walking will be hard
 
That is an offensive comment against socks.
 
2:40 PM
waves to @MOehm o/
 
Was that wave with a sock on your hand or without?
 
I think I'd get some strange looks if I had a sock on my hand at work
 
Why is your hand at work?
 
They are co-workers
 
They've got a family to provide for @JanDvorak
 
2:45 PM
wow i lost my puzzling strea
i was on like 20 days also
 
I just got my fanatic ;)
 
cri
 
hola...
 
Hi o/
3 hours ago, by n_palum
Side note - I got my first gold badge and I will begin my process of transforming into a puzzle piece
 
@n_palum congratulations...
 
Sid
2:54 PM
Anyone up for contact/codenames/spyfall?
 
I feel like this is getting fairly broad puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/52776/a-riddling-riddle
 
Or it's just really difficult, or requires some a very indirect approach, which seems to be an acceptable design here
 
or maybe there's a steg tag they forgot :P
 
Maybe... I'll wait to see what the answer is since many of the current answers fit which is where it becomes too broad
If the answer is unique that's fine
 
hmm trying CCCC
 
Sid
2:57 PM
if I am not wrong, -40degrees celsius is same as -40 degrees Fahrenheit.
Dunno if that is helpful.
 
that is correct
 
I doubt it's steg, the user hasn't written any steg puzzles before... although there seems to be a slight tendency for "think what I was thinking", but overall the puzzles seem okay
 
it was a joke, heh
 

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