@V2Blast @Mike@ Just had a verisimilitude moment: need to discuss with the group "does fog cloud work underwater?" On the one hand, water > cloud so no fog. On the other, fog is water droplets mixed in with air, so I could argue that fog cloud creates something like bubbles underwater so 'it works' - perhaps partial obscuration rather than total ... brain cooking off ... still thinking about that. Would value your input since Ignaz got that ring.