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12:51 AM
@TimPost I was just asleep, sorry :)
 
 
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4:00 AM
'I don't want to contribute in any way to the general well-being of the society in which I plant my tax-dodging arse AND I want cheap healthcare too.'

You randroid parasites are scum of the earth, you do know that right?
I love you, HN people!
 
4:54 AM
On the upside, we've more than doubled our users in 20 or so hours
 
 
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6:46 AM
500+ users!
 
7:18 AM
you meant 500 parasites
 
randroid parasites ;)
 
@Gagravarr That's risky
But we are not talking about a residence permit in fact, the regular procedure for that is to apply for a visa first
I think there is some rule somewhere that says that the family from an EU citizen should still be able get a visa on arrival but even for a visit (i.e. not to establish residence), a visa is in principle required
I thought the problem people face is turning this visit into permanent residence
If you go the “Surinder Singh” route, the non-EU spouse can also apply for a residence permit in the country where you are staying temporarily, that would be something to show either on the border or later to the UKBA
 
7:55 AM
there's some examples of how it should work on this Europa page:
 
Yeah but note the “They have an EU family member’s residence card issued under EU rules by any EU country (except the country you are a national of)”
 
Woo, 1000! :)
 
In my mind the EU residence card for the spouse might be a way to establish you used your treaty rights but in principle a visa is still needed
 
now we have 4 users with 1k+ rep, hopefully will be enough for the review queue
 
And then there is the “Arriving at the border without an entry visa” which suggests that it's kind of possible but I would expect some resistance from the border guards
What I would rather do is apply for a visa and then fight the visa rejection if needed (hiring a lawyer if possible)
(but like I said I am not familiar with UK procedure)
I reviewed a bunch of things but everything needs to be reviewed twice apparently
@Gagravarr This is all about entry btw, the whole Surinder Singh business is about residence, which is certainly worth a fight in court
If you are stuck at the border, EU rights won't do you much good
 
 
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2:20 PM
This freelancer tax paradise question is really full of nonsense
Starting with “paying 52% of your income in tax” in the Netherlands (read it twice in two days)
 
2:46 PM
@GaëlLaurans I totally agree with your comment that the OP is not a high earner. If you are not in the top tax bracket, you are not a high earner. It is not an insult.
At first I thought this was a case of double taxation where the individual was earning so much that the tax credits don't count for much. Now the question just seems to be one for money.se
 
Which question is that?
 
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Q: Most tax friendly country for freelancer?

ginaI'm a free-lance consultant working for a U.S. client. I'm an E.U. citizen currently living in the EU and my combined income tax and social security contributions are now more than 50% of my salary. I would like to relocate to a country that has relatively low income tax and low social security ...

 
@StrongBad 42% is above 33k €, in the Netherlands I made that much as a PhD student
I should really stop commenting because this is going in all directions ;-)
Or he is really in the top tax-bracket and his income and deductions are such that his effective tax rate is really exactly the same than the second tax bracket…
 
Personally I'd close the question now.
 
@GaëlLaurans I think the relevant cutoff is 54k, but it doesn't matter.
@Karlson I just voted to close.
 
2:54 PM
There
It's closed
 
finally
 
It was the most viewed question btw
 
it's normal that too broad questions attract attention
they get many answers and appear immediately on the hot list
 
Didn't think it was a discussion question.
 
@Dirty-flow I am not sure it is really too broad. There are only a couple of "correct" answers since the OP was looking for the best. Potentially the answer would be too long since it would have to list 200 countries and the tax liability. It would be a lot of work unless you are setup to calculate these sorts of things.
 
3:04 PM
10 anwers suggesting different countries
 
@StrongBad I think 54k is the higher end of the bracket but it starts at 33k
 
@GaëlLaurans according to wikipedia the 42% bracket goes from 33-56k and the 52% bracket starts at 56k.
 
The problem is that everybody has some experience with 2 or 3 countries and then goes on to generalize, maybe a few people really needed to deal with a dozen or so but unless you are a tax attorney or work for the tax office (and even then) nobody has the full view.
@StrongBad Yes, I wasn't clear, that's what I meant, he said he pays 42% so the second one.
 
@Dirty-flow yeah but they were not very good answers.
@GaëlLaurans but we can strive to get the tax attorney or someone who works in a tax office to answer the question. It might go unanswered or require a bounty, but I don't think we should close questions because they are difficult to answer well.
 
Ideally yes
I am just speculating on why it results in this sort of free-for-all discussion
 
3:11 PM
@StrongBad IMO the question is too vague: the only real requirment is : a country where the time difference with the U.S. East Coast is less than 7 hours.
 
@Dirty-flow and the cheapest taxes.
If you had a spreadsheet that calculated your tax burden in every country given an income of X then the question would be easy to answer.
As your income becomes more diversified the spreadsheet obviously becomes more complicated. Someone earning less than 56k a year probably isn't so diversified.
 
It is actually very difficult to calculate since the effective rate may differ based on circumstances and entities involved
All you're able to see is the published rate
 
And there was nothing in the question about the living costs in the target country, which should also be important (and probably more on topic as well)
 
another point is tax deduction this could also make a (big) difference
 
@SztupY Yes and no, it makes sense to keep the questions separate and let everyone figure out what their priorities are
But it's certainly extremely complicated
 
3:21 PM
I mean it would be more on-topic here. As currently stated it's more like a question for Money.SE or a simlar site.
Or maybe if I'd would be limited to EU states. I don't really know
 
Yes, it's probably on-topic on Money.SE too
 
I guess the important question for us is is there any way to salvage the question.
Can we tell the OP something in the comments that will help them improve the question.
 
3:38 PM
the top answer is now Bulgaria, but the OP said it's probably too cold there. It's a valid reason, but it's not in the question
It's not clear how much the OP earns - this could make also a difference
 
And what effort he wants to do to move
As moving to another EU country is always probably way easier than leaving the EU
 
I think she is already out of the EU
 
what do you mean?
 
@GaëlLaurans no: I'm an E.U. citizen currently living in the EU
 
"I'm an E.U. citizen currently living in the EU "
 
3:51 PM
I just remembered it wrongly ;-)
I though she wrote living the US or something
 
working for us company
 
4:10 PM
Under contract from what I gathered.
 
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A: Avoiding pitfalls when transfering money between banks within EU (Germany -> Poland)

briodfDisclaimer: I am the co-founder of a comparison website for international money transfer services which gives me insights to respond to OP’s question. Traditional banks may charge fees on the sending and/or receiving sides for international money transfers. There are two variables you have to ch...

 
the link to the own company was removed
 
Better.
 
He still includes a link which has a referral inside
(did add the disclaimer for it)
 
 
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5:48 PM
I wonder if language cultural reference resource would be a good question...
 
6:44 PM
I don't think the links add anything. At a minimum the referral link should be changed into a. Regular link.
 
 
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10:05 PM
got my fulfillment status
 

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