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3:11 PM
based on google you are in good company. And I really hope these tattoo are just paint... a little too large even for tattoo lovers imho
 
 
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4:31 PM
@hyper-neutrino @Fredy31 They are in for lot of hurt now...
Get ready for players raging worse than back at the anniversary.
not interested in the fanservice to be fair, but this sets a precedence for the Chinese influence to just do whatever they want after the character has released and been sold for actual money.
Should we expect them to suddenly change Xingqiu because "not male enough"?
Jan 5 at 15:26, by SPArcheon
> “Players can choose to be either good or evil… but we don’t think that games should give players this choice… and this must be altered.”
Remove Tartaglia?
I mean, he is morally gray....
anyway, only a few hour have passed and there are already plans of review bombing again...
and apparently it is also on the official forum
 
4:54 PM
Wasnt the plan of giving the NPCs an alt costume that is the Chinese one on NA/EU servers?
And really, personally, IDGAF
And for tattoos she just released a genshin one
 
@Fredy31 they do give an alt costume. The point is that the "alternate" costume apparently will be used in every animation old and new, and that is not what they said before.
Basically, this open to the possibility that you pull a character that has a certain look and then they change it afterward and force you to see the new look in every cutscene.
 
Guess i'm not really giving a damn because I play a character for strength and gameplay, not their appearance. I guess blame my 10 years of LoL and not being a one trick pony in LoL.
But yeah I can see why some people would be mad, if they have their waifu and love it like that
 
I am not just worried for the "waifu" part, that is what worries me the less.
The point is that they could do the same for many other things.
Hu Tao dress for example is somehow inspired by military clothes
the hat seems quite similar to the old green star hat.
(Mao period)
Should I expect a change too?
In this case you don't even need the fanservice.
Current Hu-Tao looks like Miku in Sebonzakura
Wouldn't be surprised if some paying customers (especially in Japan) payed for her for that very reason.
Change after you got the money? Scam either way.
Tattoo are another thing China has issues with. Should I expect them to remove the one on Xiao arm?
 
Yeah, I see your point of the small change being the start to bigger changes. But at the same time, not like the devs have choices. You are in china, you know that if the government asks you something, you can't just ignore it. If you value your own life/family
 
5:09 PM
That is kinda my point. Either they have to move out - and they have the money to or....
If we were to reduce the problem only to this costume thing, they were quite lazy.
If MMD teach something... having the animated cutscenes rendered twice for two separate countries (that already differ on other resource files like images and text) cost is probably close to zero...
yet, while I couldn't care less if someone notices and removes Ying'er dialogues (they are somehow disturbing) I would probably be annoyed if they changed the ones for the girl that has a crush on Jean - that is just more homophobia for free.
 
@SPArcheon Would have really believed most cutscenes are inengine
 
@Fredy31 consider this. If you played Albedo story quest just before the Dragonspine event, then you saw the post edit Rosaria model.
I don't think they had to re-render the entire scene so....
that said, see goodby to those two fontaine characters I guess
 
5:35 PM
@Fredy31 btw right now it seems like the only difference is that global keeps the older outfits as an option outside cutscenes. But IF I recall correctly China gets something like 1k primo.
1200 to be precise
and it starts.
the anniversary...
that gave us this gem
the KFC Wings...
I now wait with trepidation for "Alternate Outfit Fallen Qiqi"
Ironically, since Ludi was thought to return in March someone back in september made this
that is the outfit Amber had in the comic , that people assumed would be sold sometime in the future
now the pictures takes a different meaning. Before it was a rant because people assumed it would be overpriced... now they will rant that thanks to recent "changes" the outfit will never be made.
For comparison, this one
@Fredy31 BTW, IF they are unable to use the current skin in cutscenes (that are not animated/CG anime stuff etc)... that is VERY stupid programming...
I kinda remember Tales of Berseria using whatever you had equipped at the time... resulting in scenes like this.
 
6:13 PM
Yeah, thats why I'm wondering what you were saying when you said they had to rerender all cutscenes. Its always funny to see your weird custom player in a cutscene.

But I guess what they are talking about is those that are not in engine, clearly
 
@Fredy31 COULD be prerendered to save space. COULD. I don't know the details, and I don't care.
What I mean is that even something as basic as MMD shows you that you can do the same video twice and just swap the character model for a different one.
So, if a one person project made to animate Vocaloid music videos works that way...
I expect a game made by an actual company that made billions $$$...
 
Would be annoying AF
means that probably a good part of the download would be Videos
which is... wtf.
 
@Fredy31 FF7 PS1....
 
Nah its definitely in engine: Just tought about it but the angle at which you talk to the NPC usually doesnt change when you talk to them
at least for minor convos
And even for major convos, you don't have a fade to black before, or see a cut, which you would ssee if it was prerendered
but like I said, i guess the rerender would be all cutscenes that are really cutaways. And official art
 
@Fredy31 It is CLEARLY using the engine and on PS4 you can even get concrete evidence.
 
6:19 PM
Yeah because on PS4 you would clearly see a load time if it needed to load a video
God the lack of SSD in a PS4 shows a lot when playing on that
 
@Fredy31 Much simpler: did you ever notice that sometime the game loads a low version of the character texture for a second if you quickly swap region or such?
That can rarely happen in a cutscene.
So... the cutscene is using the game engine.
THIS COULD be prerendered. Could.
but.. are those less than 10 in the whole game so far?
 
That is probably a mix of preprender and in game. Like the scenes you could machinima and recreate in game, but the parts where there would be too much elementss like the rise of the lanterns might be prerendered.
 
Exactly... I would trust a claim that says that keeping separate version for such cases is inefficient.
But the rest is clearly realtime in-game engine.
 
Yeah they might have a tech to dip in and out of prerender. or its completely prerendered
 
I am pretty sure this is not pre-rendered....
the lightning kinda gives that away....
yet, they felt the urge to use the new alternate outfits even in these.
We will see the chaos this will cause. Will be "Fun".
For some values of "fun"
Like I said, I am less worried about outfits and more worried about game content.
The homophobic remarks in those old articles were pretty worrisome.
 
6:55 PM
@SPArcheon China gonna china
Look i'm from canada, my country is basically pissing off china for the last year because we just dont take their bull.
And its about as much you can do if you are not there
 

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