@tombull89 Yeah, seems to be the same with management, especially upper management. No getting rid of them, no matter how incompetent they are... and then they got their golden parachutes anyway.
One of our developers called in today because he twisted his ankle two days ago. It was good enough to walk on yesterday, but today he needs to "put it up". le sigh
@ChrisS As much as I hate to give a developer the benefit of the doubt, that might be legit. Give something like that 2 days, especially if you're walking on it, and it can swell up pretty heinously.
Not to say that developers don't deserve much pain and swelling, but I've had similar injuries where it was "fine" (enough) until the fact that I was pushing it too hard caught up with me a few days later.
@HopelessN00b Ignoring his crappy single DC VM, a) Where does Microsoft actually say that? and B) I disagree anyway, I've known hundreds and hundreds of DC's running DHCP and I've never seen a single issue caused by it
I've seen setups like that a fair amount with small businesses, they get one server and do the SBS dance. The person who sets it up think Hyper-V Server is a good idea, then install SBS to VM(s)... Not actually a very good idea, but neither is hiring a consultant who only charges $20/h.
@ChrisS :D I must admit, I'm a complete hypocrite because I do know what it's like when you can't get cash for the things you want to do and for many businesses they'd literally rather struggle along and deal with the occasional issues than spend any real money
@Danijel This is really beyond the scope of what I can provide in a Server Fault answer. I was just trying to help point you in the right direction. — ewwhite38 secs ago
Can't seem to locate the reference at he moment, but you can check out the article/KB I linked, which lists a few of the problems DHCP serves on DCs are known to cause.
Independent of that, though, my general thought on the idea is... why install *anything* on such a vital server that you don't absolutely need to? Best to only install one app/service/system per server anyhow, even on servers that aren't critical to your environment.
@HopelessN00b Mm, I'm going to have to disagree. Two DC's both running DHCP and DNS is a pretty common setup that I'll roll out time and time again and I can hand on heart say I've never had a single issue
I do agree with separating rolls for the most part, and there's really no excuse not to in these days of virtualisation, but I really can't see a good case for running seperate DHCP and DNS servers. That'd put a basic deployment to 6 servers before you've even started
Well, YMMV and all, but this what I've found to work best and to be recommended by the guys in Redmond. If you can get away with it, and it doesn't cause problems, great.
Clearly not the case for the OP in that thread... and another reason I like to separate AD from absolutely everything I can. AD/DNS troubleshooting in a Windows domain is rough enough under normal circumstances, without having to wonder if the DHCP service is part of the problem as well.
Well, as the saying goes, `no one else is perfect`, but you seem pretty sharp, so I'm confident you'll come around to my PoV eventually. :D
By all means, if you have a different opinion to add to that question, please share it... probably be nothing but good for the question and the OP to have advice from the opposite camp on the topic.
My computer has suddenly become slow after installing files on the hard drive. This slowness includes starting up, and logging on. Is this directly related to the movies I uploaded which took some space? I checked and the disk is not full.
@Dan I just want to delete your comment because it's so unconstructive, but I just can't bring myself to be that kind of guy. Iain's response is really how this should be handled, IMHO.
@Dan > Your question is off topic for Serverfault because it does not relate to servers, networking or desktop infrastructure in a professional capacity. Also it is a poor question because it provides no information that we can use to help you e.g. which operating system etc
Slapping us down for being frustrated at the plethora of horrid questions, and then being unresponsive to complaints about the horrible question entry process is a bit much.
I haven't bothered. It's been made clear in the past that any perceived barriers to question entry is impactful to the content and thus the bottom line.
@Adrian I understand if you want to gripe about this, but without anyone articulating this in the forum that is designed for that purpose, how do you expect any feedback as to why it is the way it is?
@PeterGrace I think the thing is that the feedback we've recieved is "non-starter," so there seems to be little point in opening another question to beat that dead horse anymore.
Griping about it a bit in chat, on the other hand, does relieve some of the irritation, on the other hand. At least for me.
You're probably out of luck. Without that key, there's no way to get the data. If there were, that would render Bitlocker pretty useless.
When you set up Bitlocker, you were prompted to write down/keep safe your recovery key for a reason.
Group Policy can be configured to store recovery keys in...
One thing we've been discussing internally just in the past day or two is the fact that with the podcast gone, a lot of the visibility into our internal processes are gone as well
Someone from Community team relayed the message from upstairs with a strong tone of atop bothering me about it, it's anathema to current philosophy and lots of Qs is how SE makes money anyway.
@MDMarra Not something you necessarily have control over. If 3 previous people close voted with a migrate to SU... well, that's what's gonna happen, absent mod intervention.
Just because a question is about a client OS doesn't make it OT for SF. I understand that people want all of the new shiny things from /review, but have some discretion.
Wouldn't be surprised, but if it makes you feel better, I basically never vote to migrate, so it was 3 other people who should be blamed for that shit migration.
I was just trying to use up ~20 close votes starting at 7:53 yesterday. Not paying a lot of attention to whether my vote would result in a migration or not.
Maybe there could be something about having at least 200 rep on the VTC migration site. There may be a lot of high-rep users and mods on SO (I mean, anybody can get rep asking some basic questions) but very little of them know what's on-topic for SF. Take that Minecraft Server question from earlier - there wasn't even a question there. That got migrated here from SO.
The question didn't deserve to be closed in the first place.
That aside, if you see something with 3 migrate votes and it's shit, flag it instead. A mod can close it without migrating. It'll help you toward Marshal and it'll help our reputation on other sites.
@ewwhite We've not purchased any yet, I've touched them precisely twice at customer sites but I haven't had a chance to actually open one up or anything
I will do the flag thing instead in the future.... but last time I used my flags like that, I got smacked down with my only 8 post flags declined... so I'm a bit gunshy on it.
@Iain it boils down to "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it"
If all you're doing is ejaculating all over the post about how superior you are because you know how to ask a question better than someone else, then god helpyou
Essentially, commenting "Dude, you're obviously not getting this whole asking questions concept" is saying "I'm better than you and I want to point this out."
@ewwhite Yeah it's pretty unique, I think you can get it for normal rackmounts which to be fair, I've done way more with this year than blades for VDI. Have to see how it plays out I suppose
It's all very well educating (and encouraging) the community to give better feedback however we'll need some help from SE in reducing some of the utter crud that gets onto the site.
Let's have a look at our friend Marlin from above. 7 questions, one deleted. Four questions have 0 votes, one on -1, one on -4 and one on -5 before it was deleted. 0% Accept rate.
Now I'm not saying that the high-rep users make SF what it is, but there are certainly a small but extremely active group (25-30 users maybe) that reliably answer hard questions with correct information. If that goes away, then your top-rated answers on a lot of the harder stuff becomes "Try rebooting" or links to random shit.
Isn't this just part of the churn that comes in this industry? Remember, the field is changing... so there are more newbies, devs, people doing janky things, etc. Telling them to search old questions or RTFM isn't always a fix.
@ewwhite Right, but stuff like "My MAMP broke after I upgraded to 10.8 how do I fix it" doesn't belong. That's not a factor of industry churn, that's because people do not read the faq. If we can't tell those people that this isn't the community for them because SE wants more pageviews, then that's a problem.
Now that's an extreme example, but still.
I seem to remember Jeff telling a decent chunk of people "this isn't the site for you" in the early days. Now it seems saying things like that are frowned upon.
Hopefully you can understand where that feel like a double-standard, and a frustration when we get smacked for a little snark to someone who vomited an incomprehensible, off-topic PoS of a question onto the site without so much as glancing at the FAQ first.
I get it, I understand why it has to be that way, but it doesn't make the situation any less... irritating.
@MDMarra I'd have to go back and check, but I believe so. It was specifically around how some questions should be closed and custom comments. And I'm not so much concerned about badges or "helpful points" or whatever, as much as it was staring at 8 comments from a mod saying something to the effect of "don't use flags this way, use close votes instead."
@MDMarra That is true, bit it is also okay for the core of 25-30 users to churn over time (people leave because they get bored, new people come along). If people give insecure snarky answers, new people won't come, and the 25-30 people likely still get bored
I have an ESXi 5.0 and VirtualCenter setup. I've created a VM template (let's call it rhel-template) and I want to deploy it from the command-line (via esxcli).
How do I do so?
I'm going to install a CentOS6 Server with Virtualization ( libvirtd ) capabilities on a DELL Server with Hardware RAID5 of around 6T of disk space ( It has 4x2T disks in a PERC700 RAID Controller ).
I'm going then to install some guests which requires few resources except one that needs 500GB ...
@ewwhite Maybe a bit too subjective/NC at the moment, but I definitely like it. (In that it gives the opportunity to fairly objectively say "you're doing this, this, this and this wrong, do [blah] instead."
@KyleBrandt we're largely not attracting new 'top' users ~ most of the newbies aren't admins. This deleted answer meta.serverfault.com/a/1762/9517 is truer every day
@Iain Well, not to sound immodest, but I'm pretty god-like, and fairly new. And if I don't rub you the right way, there's always @MichaelHampton, who's definitely a "top" user by any reasonable metric (and a pretty phenomenal question answerer), and even newer than I.
But if you've noticed, there's no one that's even come close to the quality of EA regarding Windows stuff since he left. I think I'm top 3 or 4 for Windows admins on the site and I know nothing compared to that guy.
@Iain Sorry, phone call. In that statement I was referring to Stack Exchange's role as more or less a data warehouse -- we assist in the curation of content but rely heavily on the community to self-moderate.
@Iain / @MDMarra: Never been against closing low quality stuff, just against leaving jerky comments on it. Many professionals don't want to be around people who are behaving like Jerks, so if they see that, they won't want to hang around (even if it isn't directed at them)
@MDMarra See, but I'd argue that wasn't mean, so much as... overly honest/blunt. That's kinda what bugs me about the way comments are handled. Any hint of not coddling the guy you're responding at, and boom, flagged, deleted, maybe a warning-o-gram from the mods. :/
But, like I said, that's a rare occurrence for me. I can't think of another time when I was intentionally mean. I've certainly said some thing that people could construe as mean, but they were never meant that way.
@PeterGrace I keep hearing this, and I guess it's one of those things I'll ascribe to my inherent awesomeness, but I rarely have the problem of deciphering someone's tone, even in text.
@ewwhite Indeed. And what makes us crabby? Dealing with lusers and other miscellaneous morons all day. Not surprising that online, such people asking clueless, idiotic questions might inspire the crabby to come out all the more.
OK guys. Let me rephrase. I've got the benefit of watching how over 80 communities grow. None of those growth methods are "being dicks to others." If you want to go down this path, more power to you.
Btw, I find this thread very usefull for future people who get into same kind of trouble. That's why I posted all those commands and tried to give as much detail as possible. Flaging this thread as duplicate with those two - really a nonsense. This one is by far more concrete. — Danijel4 mins ago
@Iain Unfortunately then people scream and cry and piss themselves about how mean Server Fault is. We can't win. The best we can hope for is to break even. We can only break even if we bribe the SAs to take the site off the network :-/
@MDMarra Would you like to post this on mSO again? :)
@voretaq7 I was more surprised that at a few interviews earlier this year, some of the admins said, "we don't like Server Fault... the answers are usually wrong"
That specific question may be increasingly less relevant, but anyone who doesn't use some community like SF (or EE or Spiceworks, or social.technet, etc.) probably isn't up to the task of being a SA.
@voretaq7 at the moment there are perhaps 30 people who regularly use their 3k voting powers we need more so that the load/blame can be spread in such a way that people looking in don't think there is a cabal at work here
@HopelessN00b I get really weirded-out when I encounter engineers who aren't part of a community... or have a public web presence on forums, mailing lists...
@MichaelHampton indeed a large proportion of our questions are from developers who just want their short term problem with their devstation fixing. The don't care if its a good solution they just want to get on with hacking. This doesn't lead to people writing long interesting answers especially when you couple it with our paucity of voting
Crap. Just realized that I'm going to need to next two days to write up roughly 35 custom types in Puppet to handle the required directory structure for our web of NFS mounts. =(
@Iain I didn't say anything wrong there. That was an OP without a clue that answered his own question incorrectly with a sockpuppet account and immediately accepted the wrong answer.
@MichaelHampton The leaving part doesn't bother me. I'd want to anyway because it's what we DO. But management has decided that they don't want to spend any money or time on fixing it, so it sits.
Oh god… OH GOD… just got an email from a guy who used to work for a customer before becoming an "IT consultant": «I have a domain redacted.com hosted through 1and1 however I want to be able to host my own Email and Web server, and possibly file server - but all Virtually in Linux, through Parallels on my MAC.
Will your solution include this?
I also need someway to have a user friendly GUI since I am not well versed in Linux at the moment. At the very least I would like to hose my own email and website...
@MichaelHampton That such things also require upkeep never really occurs to them. They tend to consider time spent in upkeep as a "sunk cost", but time spent on new things as DETRACTING from the time properly spent on upkeep...
I created a GPO to map a printer via Group Policy Preferences with the Shared Printer user policy. I've since deleted the GPO, but whenever I log into any machine, it still tries to map the printer, but fails (since the queue doesn't exist on the server any more). The policy was set to Create. Th...
@MDMarra I think that your first sentence in your answer (whilst accurate and dispelling one of the great myths of VMs) is unnecessarily provocative and ultimately led to the comment wars, an innocent bystander being pilloried and deleting their account.
Because I really don't remember what I said, but I seem to remember my first comment or two were relatively benign. I only got riled up when he posted the wrong answer under a 2nd account and then immediately accepted it.
@HopelessN00b BTW, that check box wouldn't apply to my problem anyway. The printer policy was in Create mode. Checking that box puts it in Replace mode and really just deletes the printer on logoff and maps it again on logon.
It's always the stupid things that are the hardest to catch. I spent three days troubleshooting a dying batteries on a wireless mouse issue once... still makes me feel st00pid.
@HopelessN00b I actually posted a dumbass question on SF which turned out to have been caused by a wireless mouse with dying batteries. I now use a wired mouse.
Sure. And how many times have I said "is it plugged in? are the batteries new? is the red light on?"
Still ended up trying driver updates, firmware updates, driver hacks, software installs, even tested the electrical connections... didn't check the damn batteries.
@Adrian I feel that. The USB drivers for those paper piles are still utter crap, despite how long paper piles have been around. You'd think it would give the devs enough time to get decent compatibility, but no.... lazy developers.
@ewwhite actually pretty cool for anyone. I think I'll be way too geeky for my own good and try that on my disk encryption keys... and certificates... and such.
@Adrian I was tempted to give my children the binary of their birth day/month as their middle names (i.e. 110101100 and 11010111) but chose against it.
My computer has suddenly become slow after installing files on the hard drive. This slowness includes starting up, and logging on. Is this directly related to the movies I uploaded which took some space? I checked and the disk is not full.
I have an ESXi 5.0 and VirtualCenter setup. I've created a VM template (let's call it rhel-template) and I want to deploy it from the command-line (via esxcli).
How do I do so?
I'm going to install a CentOS6 Server with Virtualization ( libvirtd ) capabilities on a DELL Server with Hardware RAID5 of around 6T of disk space ( It has 4x2T disks in a PERC700 RAID Controller ).
I'm going then to install some guests which requires few resources except one that needs 500GB ...
