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Josh

4:00 PM

it's optional

explorex

@Ben still got the same error

Chopper3

phew - glad that ordeal is over - how is everyone?

explorex

websmartint.com

Josh

@barraponto these command sshould be safe

only the first 3 are global

Zypher

hey there @Chopper3

explorex

4:02 PM

zend framework is such a headache .. first headache is while learning ... second headache is when developing ... and the last headache is when uploading.

Ben

@explorex Wow.. hmm. You'll need to dig up your server config, and see what's going on in there. You may have a 'deny' set for that directory or something.

explorex

@Ben

which means

Josh

@explorex is AllowOverride All set in the main httpd.conf?

explorex

@Josh i think i don't Webhost Manager can access the whole server please check my question again i am going to upload snapshot of my web host manager

Josh

@explorex is this your server, or a shared hosting account?

barraponto

4:10 PM

this following line, meant to be used on cron level: /usr/bin/rsync -aqz --delete rsync://drupal.server.example.com/example-cache /var/www/example.mirror/cache/normal/example.com/

sysadmin1138

Is anyone else seeing a strange UI bug between tools and Chat in the SF bar?

barraponto

shouldn't it read rsync://myserver/cache (since settings are called [cache] on rsync.conf)

sysadmin1138

(Tools is the 10K tools, so not all of you will have it)

pauska

woo, got my new 3750x stack

explorex

@Josh some one created some domain and gave me all details not my server

and please have a look at updates

Josh

4:13 PM

@barraponto hmmmm

Iain

@sysadmin1138 mine looks normal to me

Josh

@explorex yeah, you do not have accss to modify httpd.conf

Talk to your server admin about this issue

@sysadmin1138 I don't see that but I don't have 10k

explorex

@Josh thank you i am going to talk to him and thank you very much

barraponto

@sysadmin1138 don't see anything, but i don't have 10k either

sysadmin1138

Thank you all. Maybe I just need to hit Refresh harder.

Josh

4:16 PM

@barraponto I think you'recorrect

Ben

@explorex you must have a "deny from all" set somewhere.. did you post the entire .htaccess file? are there other .htaccess files above it in the directory? can you load your index.php file directly?

explorex

@Josh this is only the one i have

barraponto

@Joshcan you point me to a good read on rsync? better than manpage

explorex

but if i put different html file then i can get the url

@Jo

@Josh besides there is another file phpinfo.php and test.php and i am not being able to access that file too

Josh

@barraponto manpage is my favorite.... um, does anyone else know of a good rsync tutrial?

@barraponto I rsync my servers using rsync /path/to/files destinationHostname::rsyncConfigOption where rsyncConfigOption is the entry in /etc/rsync.conf on the destination

@explorex yeah something with your rewriterules is not working

explorex

4:24 PM

may be the rewrite_mod is not installed

barraponto

@Josh will these options be available when cron runs the command?

explorex

@Josh i deleted the whole directory and i have phpinfo on index page, can i know if mod_rewrite is enabled from phpinfo?

Josh

@barraponto they should be, yes

@explorex ummmm, I am not sure

One moment please

barraponto

usually not even $PATH is available at cron runs...

explorex

@Josh link is here websmartint.com

Josh

4:31 PM

@barraponto that shouldn't be an issue as long as you say /usr/bin/rsync instead of just rsync

barraponto

ok thanks

Josh

@explorex create a page 'test.html' and put something in it, like <h1>mod rewrite works!</h1 and then place the following into .htaccess`:

RewriteRule .* testPage.html

explorex

okay

Josh

where testPage.html is the name of your HTML page

then, go to any URL and see if you get your test HTML

explorex

@Josh websmartint.com/testPage.html

Josh

4:40 PM

@explorex ok, did you make the .htaccess?

RewriteRule .* testPage.html

explorex

yes

and i have testPage.html

file

Josh

looks like mod_rewrite is not available

because otherwise websmartint.com/blah would show websmartint.com/testPage.html

Can anyone else confirm?

explorex

okay i will try at my localserver

voretaq7

Why is the process of bootstrapping major upgrades always so painful?

lynxman

@voretaq7 They wouldn't be called major upgrades otherwise. Major == bigger than what you can take on a regular day

:)

voretaq7

4:51 PM

heh

lynxman

I specially hate upgrading CentOS, if only it was as easy as Ubuntu...

voretaq7

dude, ubuntu upgrades SUCK. apt is a pile of festering corpses.

(the aforementioned major upgrade is Ubuntu 9.x to 10.x)

lynxman

apt is cool when you start to know it, but the learning curve is a bit to steep for my to have any simpathy towards it

@voretaq7 Ubuntu 9.x to 10.x should be okay to do though

Zypher

@voretaq7 i would posit ALL OS upgrades suck

voretaq7

@lynxman Breaks (consistently) on the *SECOND* reboot

lynxman

4:53 PM

I've done 8.04 to 10.04 couple of times

@voretaq7 What errors are you getting?

voretaq7

I've had to go around the normal update process and engineer my own (which is better in my case, because it gives me more positive control than apt and doesn't break on the second reboot)

lynxman

@voretaq7 If you can send me the errors you were getting I can make sure to try and make a bug request out of it

voretaq7

the crux of it seems to be some kind of gnome-related insanity -- I wasn't interested enough to really troubleshoot b/c it's got to be something tied up with our customizations

lynxman

ah, the much feared gnome dependency labyrinth

voretaq7

I can't really blame ubuntu because updating stock 9.x to 10.x worked fine - they're just the focus of my rage because things shouldn't break on the *SECOND* reboot :-)

@Zypher *BSD upgrades suck a little less

lynxman

4:56 PM

rofl

explorex

@Josh i found out that rewrite rure is working fine

lynxman

*BSD == make world, make install world, reboot

explorex

websmartint.com/asdfasdfasfd

check it out i has just missed rewrite engie on on htaccess file

voretaq7

@lynxman in my case add "run mkpatch ; run cluster_upgrade" to the end of that :)

lynxman

@voretaq7 nice

@voteraq7 all being said, if I can give you a hand in anything Ubuntu related let me know

explorex

4:58 PM

@Josh anyway thanks i will give my last shot if not then i am going to quit

lynxman

I hang around #ubuntu-server on Freenode

voretaq7

eh, not as nice as it should be - we're using radmind, which is pretty good. It's also what's handling the ubuntu upgrades once I get the bootstrapping bit done

We need a service where I can rent a junior sysadmin for like 2 weeks at a time -- I've done all the hard (and interesting) stuff, and now it's just the annoying little things.

lynxman

@voretaq7 so just boring grunting job left to be done

voretaq7

@lynxman yup - tweaking permissions in the bootstrap packages, adjusting the template system to eliminate a few errors, and then I can unleash this on unsuspecting users :-)

oh left out a bit on those BSD upgrade steps: "portupgrade -af" :-)

lynxman

@voretaq7 hehe, they won't know what happened, they'll just get a stable upgraded platform

explorex

5:08 PM

@Josh i nailed where i got error

voretaq7

@lynxman That's the plan. One day I'd like to get our field units off of Linux/Ubuntu and onto a BSD platform like the servers.

the barrier to transition is pretty high though: Linux has the desktop/GUI thing pretty well sorted

lynxman

@voretaq7 true, specially Ubuntu

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explorex

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Q: rewrite rule for .htaccess not working for php file

Well, to my previous question i found out the RewriteEngine On RewriteRule .* index.php was not working but RewriteEngine On RewriteRule .* index.html was working, what could be the possible reason

voretaq7

@lynxman yeah I give them a lot of credit for that. There are a few pain points, but that's mostly because we're using these machines in a funky way (field units at hospitals, so auto-login, remote assistance, etc. -- it's kinda kiosk-like actually when you get right down to it)

explorex

5:15 PM

hi anyone viewed my question?

lynxman

@voretaq7 Maybe you should get some support on those Ubuntu installs

so you can take that off your head

voretaq7

eh, they're not hard to support once they're in the field (and support in the US anyway needs to stay in-house due to the HIPAA hippo in the room). It's the deep customization we do that's annoying.

Hopefully we'll be able to justify a junior admin to handle it this year though -- it'd be nice if someone were keeping up with Ubuntu development and working on the OS full-time :)

lynxman

@voretaq7 That's what I'm talking about support, so you can get that delivered to you

or someone to throw this problems at

voretaq7

I'd love that - problem is we can't justify the staff right now (as annoying as it is there's not enough work to keep someone busy full-time. I even have time to troll for rep here while I wait for builds to finish :-)

lynxman

@voretaq7 Yeah, same here (launchpad why are you so slooow)

SpacemanSpiff

5:29 PM

mornin

lynxman

hey @SpacemanSpiff morning

SpacemanSpiff

so... today's problem... figure out some clever way to route two like subnets.. without using NAT

Iain

'day

SpacemanSpiff

both will have a common destination... i don't know this is possible

lynxman

@Iain dropped the g?

Iain

5:34 PM

@lynxman saves having to open a Fosters

which is always a bad thing

lynxman

@Iain hmm good point

@Iain specially in the UK where Fosters tastes like racoon piss

oh gosh, not again

Iain

Nearly all Australian beer (especially in Aus) is cold, fizzy, piss - the exception is Little Creatures IPA

lynxman

0

Q: apache settings as backend behind nginx

i have a 2gb ram / quad core server and im running nginx as a reverse proxy but what should my apache settings be for best optimization to handle ALOT of requests and how can i test it under load? current: Timeout 300 TraceEnable Off ServerSignature Off ServerTokens ProductOnly FileETag All Sta...

apache nginx

please give me all the details I need for my completely undisclosed web app

you should know! you smart engineer!

*pouts

@Iain *IPA is normally awesome, but I'm just biased like that

Iain

IPA is my favorite

lynxman

any kind of IPA

packs

5:39 PM

@Iain I live for a yummy brown

lynxman

I still have dreams about Portland IPA selection, that was life

Iain

@packs a what ?

packs

@Iain Brown ale. Newcastle is a well known example.

Iain

Wae'aye man

I used to drink it but I prefer them lighter these days

sysadmin1138

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Q: How to set up a file server in a restricted corporate environment

I work in a big corporation, and the disk space my team gets in the corporate file server is so low, I am considering turning my work PC into a file server. I ask this community for links to tutorials, software suggestions, and advice in general about how to set it up. My machine is an Intel Co...

windows-xp file-sharing beginner

Guerrilla networking. Gotta love it.

lynxman

5:43 PM

also known as "please let me add more holes in the corporate network to make the security sysadmin life unbearable"

2

packs

@Iain That reads like some kind of Northern abuse of the language....

@sysadmin1138 At least he upgraded to SP3....

Iain

Geordie colloquialism in reference to Newcastle brown

sysadmin1138

@packs Small favors make all the difference.

packs

I love it! "A lot of security software I don't even know about is and must remain installed."

SpacemanSpiff

@sysadmin1138 the fun part is when some department manager comes back to you and says "yeah this NAS hard drive we bought a few years ago that has a few terabytes of data on it that we need isn't working, can you help"

packs

5:48 PM

@SpacemanSpiff In my experience, more like a few months.

sysadmin1138

Thank you, Evan.

SpacemanSpiff

You turn the device on, and realize that more than one of the heads on the disks are clicky-clacking....

packs

Followed by something akin to, 'Just support it gorramit! This is mission critical to our department and cannot be removed!'

SpacemanSpiff

running some random software RAID that puked its brains out

Zypher

Election Ends in 3 hours, if you han't voted Please do! serverfault.com/election

sysadmin1138

5:50 PM

Is it worth a short-duration system-banner?

SpacemanSpiff

As it turned out, his employees were too lazy to upload their work to our NetApp at the end of the day

so they'd pass this drive around :O

hmm maybe

@SpacemanSpiff :0

bbl

we should have a close route for This is a really bad idea ...

lynxman

5:54 PM

@Iain flag as "you crazy!"

packs

Dec 15 '10 at 18:27, by Robert Moir

Maybe that should be a new reason for voting to close?
*Closed: This is a dumb idea and you really shouldn't even be asking it*

@Iain It's in the star list :)

Evan Anderson

Hello rep cap, how are you... heh heh.. I love questions like that "rogue fileserver" question.

lynxman

off to watch some football, cya later guys

packs

@EvanAnderson Well stated, by the way. I may have to shamelessly rip off your answer the next time something similar comes across my desk

Evan Anderson

@packs: Thanks! That's what I'm here for... rip away.

packs

6:00 PM

Normally, I fall back to the "You are free to do this as long as you want, so long as you realize switchports will seemingly disable themselves along the way." Effective, but not very diplomatic :)

sysadmin1138

he he he he he he he...

voretaq7

@packs I'm personally a fan of "ARE YOU OUT OF WHAT IS LEFT OF YOUR OBVIOUSLY VERY LIMITED MIND?", but I've learned not to say that (just think it very loudly)

packs

@voretaq7 That kind of direct confrontation tends not to go over well in Higher Ed :)

voretaq7

@packs the minds tend to be more limited there too :-)

(also doesn't go over too well in the corporate world either)

packs

As every public employee in the room starts inching slowly away from the source of that statement...

sysadmin1138

6:15 PM

Time for coffee!

packs

@sysadmin1138 :)