The Comms Room

mossy

12:16 AM

First day at Rackspace. Twas good.

Wesley

@mossy Yay!

How many people got trampled just to see your dashing handsomeness up close?

mossy

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Nathan C

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I too like dialup

...and I have cable!

Wesley

@mossy Lots of meet and greet I guess? How's your desk? Did you get a pic of your desk?

@NathanC I was getting that while tethered to my phone during a Cox outage.

Nathan C

I can't even tether to my phone...

Hotspot not showing up

Wesley

12:27 AM

You might say that I got...
(•_•)
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■)
Cox blocked.

Nathan C

...get out.

:P

mossy

lol

Nathan C

And when I try using USB tethering, it just hangs the network and sharing center indefinitely...

mossy

I did get a new laptop. Which is good. I didn't have anything at home that could run VMs

without catching fire.

Journeyman Geek

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@mossy: I've run VMs on some pretty shitty hardware....

(ok, core 2 duo laptop with a gig of ram was probably my worst. I do currently have stuff running on a little passively cooled celeron nuc-a-like - but that's 4gb of ram, and a pretty nice microarch)

Nathan C

12:34 AM

k...i give up for the night. Hotspot shows up, but it doesn't connect...sigh.

Wesley

Every time a customer says "I can confirm that I am / am not" you can immediately assume with confidence that reality is the exact opposite of what they assert.

Matt Bear

hey all

Wesley

@MattBear Slam it in a drawer, noodle slapper!

Matt Bear

@Wesley did that earlier :(

kinda stung

need help with subnetting

I need 10.0.1.0 - 10.0.3.0

specifically excluding 10.0.0.0-254

Zoredache

you can't do that in a single subnet.

Matt Bear

12:47 AM

yeah... that's what I was dreading...

my azure cloud network is 10.0.0.0/22

with subnets 10.0.1-3.0/24

one of our remote offices is 10.0.0.0/24 (don't ask me why)

trying to figure out how I can establish a VPN tunnel to azure

Zoredache

renumber the remote office. Do some really ugly NAT in the VPN.

Will Microsoft let you re-number the Azure network?

Matt Bear

@Zoredache no, I can create a new network, and then delete and recreate the servers

and then I have to go into php and MySQL on all the servers and update them

im working on integrating my Linux boxes with AD for SSO

and so that I can control the devs user accounts better

I wonder.... could I add a DC into the azure network and establish a remote connection to it?

Wesley

1:33 AM

@Iain @freiheit @ward youtube.com/watch?v=xQ_IQS3VKjA

Bob

Huh. Didn't know HP was splitting.

Journeyman Geek

Thats pretty new news

Bob

@JourneymanGeek How new is it?

Journeyman Geek

last few days

Bob

Hm. Not that new then.

Wesley

2:20 AM

TIL Semen is a real name.

Had a good giggle at someone's name in the queue today.

Ward

3:21 AM

@Wesley Cool, but Hans Rey wouldn't have had to walk/climb up any of those sections that guy did.

Hell, Hans Rey probably could've ridden where that guy had to row a boat.

Hans Rey

Hans Jörg Rey, aka Hans "No Way" Rey (born 4 June 1966 in Switzerland). Rey is a pioneer in mountain bike trials and extreme mountain biking. Rey began riding in the late 70s. Since 1987, he has ridden exclusively on GT bikes. In 1999 he was inducted to the Mountain bike hall of fame. Over the years he has won a large number of bike trials riding championships, but since 1997 has retired from competitive sports to explore the world on his mountain bike. He is the only permanent member of the "Hans Rey Adventure Team", a quest to explore the world using his mountain bike talent. These trips were...

Mark Henderson

So the DC we're moving to has a vending machine in the staging area that is filled with twinax cables and transceivers

Is that something other DCs have?

Michael Hampton

4:12 AM

Call me when the datacenter installs a vending machine that dispenses beer.

Falcon Momot

@MarkHenderson never seen it before but it's not a bad idea

Mark Henderson

@FalconMomot I tried to take a photo of it but it came out super blurry. I am not a good photographer. If @ewwhite had been there it would have been perfectly framed with a beautiful depth of field and an appropriate f-stop. I was walking past and hit snapshot on my phone

The SFP transceivers were well priced, around $40 to $80 but the SFP+ twinax 1m cables were $315

Journeyman Geek

4:29 AM

@MarkHenderson I've heard of this, pretty brilliant idea, actually

Falcon Momot

I hope there is a receipt in the package.

Mark Henderson

@FalconMomot I hope that they've tested it so that it doesn't unwind and then the thing gets caught on the way down

I once bought a packet of chips and got about 6 packets because all the previous ones had got jammed and my packet was the last straw to disloge them all

Or if you see one that's stuck halfway down you buy a heavy thing that's directly above it in the hope that it hits the packet with enough force and it all comes down

Dennis Kaarsemaker

@MarkHenderson yup, have seen it in a few dc's

xs4all dc has one even better: a spare parts dump where you can dump cables and other things you no longer use so there's always a stack of spares for people who need them

Mark Henderson

@DennisKaarsemaker That's a nice touch

I bet there are thousands of IEC power cords in there

Dennis Kaarsemaker

and network cables

fiber is somewhat rarer

but I've seen pdus and older procurves in there too

Mark Henderson

4:45 AM

Nice

Bob

5:05 AM

We always need more network cables. Got a giant box full of power and VGA/DVI cables, though. And that's after throwing a bunch out.

Mark Henderson

@Bob Ugh me too

But I never have a HDMI cable when I need it

Bob

@MarkHenderson Don't worry, they're only $60 ea!

...and do exactly the same thing as a $2 cable off some Chinese eBay seller

Journeyman Geek

5:26 AM

lol

bestbuy.com/site/…

Obligatory insanely overpriced HDMI cable.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Ah, yes. Because we all know that diamond has a massive effect on conductivity/rf interference/audio mojo

Journeyman Geek

;p

Falcon Momot

@Bob well, the piezoelectric effect is a thing, but I don't think it would very likely help

That doesn't seem to have diamonds in it though - just woo-woo and ignorance of forward error correction.

Journeyman Geek

;p

Falcon Momot

5:59 AM

hmm, either there is a new theme, or I'm getting the mobile version of the site on the front page.

Jenny D

6:27 AM

morning

Iain

G'day

faker

morning

Bob

Funfunfun

Oh god this is slow

probably should've installed the parent guest on a SSD

Whoops, battery's dying.

I'll have to see if suspending this even works :P

Wesley

6:42 AM

Night my loves.

faker

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Q: Magento not Sending emails Help configure nginx squirrelmail

have followed this youtube video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0daTIbsi-M I think I just need to configure nginx for squirrelmail. squirrelmail installed in the default location but Nginx dont seem to find it. When Im going to my domain I get this message. ERROR: Config file "config/config...

this is full of fail. Wow.

Falcon Momot

sigh

this is really getting annoying; I had to threaten to resign twice today to get something actioned.

on the bright side it doesn't look like anyone is OK with me resigning

on an even brighter side, I can actually resign since I have two offers lined up

pauska

g'day

Journeyman Geek

nice

Iain

@FalconMomot I guess you don't want to leave $currentemployer either

Jenny D

6:54 AM

@FalconMomot That sounds good

Falcon Momot

@Iain not really. I want to work at the current employer with a specific problem corrected, or at another employer.

Iain

No Java ?

Falcon Momot

to make a long story short, two people are harassing me and I need them to stop. the java is a thing too but it's secondary.

Jenny D

Falcon Momot

pretty much

Iain

7:14 AM

You do realiase that, at the moment, this question looks very much like "Hi, I'm a developer, please teach me to sysadmin" - which makes it off topic on several grounds at the same time, not least "too broad" and "professional server admin". If you have a business need to run this server, hire a consultant. If you don't, go and get your learning experiences before posting here. — MadHatter 7 mins ago

wow that's harsh from the MadHatter

Skyhawk

@FalconMomot In my experience, having clear boundaries tends to lead to raises.

Falcon Momot

@Skyhawk at the very least it leads to not having those boundaries softly pressed far beyond their original location.

Skyhawk

@FalconMomot I once got a 25% raise by promising never to work an hour over 40 again. I was the new network administrator at a scrappy little financial company and had been required to work approximately 80 hrs/week for 2 weeks in a row. The next week I was out with a terrible case of the flu, bad enough that it included some time spent hooked up to an IV.

Journeyman Geek

@Iain he does kind of have a point, but meh, op's in the funny place where he's not sure what he needs to know

Falcon Momot

@Skyhawk damn! that isn't bad.

the competing offer is for a partnership in a SIEM firm some of my fraternal brothers have in Calgary

Iain

7:21 AM

@JourneymanGeek I agree entirely with what he's saying, he's not normally that gloves off about it though

Skyhawk

@FalconMomot The trigger was that when I came back, they said they would dock my pay for 3 of the days I'd missed because I was too new an employee to have accumulated much sick leave.

Falcon Momot

@Skyhawk !

Skyhawk

@FalconMomot I explained that if I was classified as exempt and wasn't eligible for overtime and they were just going to ignore my extraordinary generosity with my time, that they certainly weren't entitled to it.

@FalconMomot So they paid me for the days I was out sick and gave me a raise. I think they were really scared that I was going to leave.

Falcon Momot

yeah, that can happen

Jenny D

When I was about 19, I was working in a startup shipping agency. For the first month or two, there wasn't very much to do, and they'd send me home and only pay me for the hours I'd worked. Then there was a rush and I worked 9-10 hours a day for a week... and they were very surprised when I asked why I wasn't paid for the full time I worked.

That, btw, was the job I eventually quit because the boss kept trying to make me go with him on "business trips"

Oh, and his wife worked at the same place. And was incompetent. And could not follow written instructions.

I am surprised I got out of there without a prison sentence.

RobM

7:38 AM

sounds like you were well out of it for sure

Jenny D

Indeed. I've a friend who's worked as a forwarding agent for the past ~4 years. Apparently that sector is still a wretched hive of sexism and harassment...

Iain

oh dear serverfault.com/questions/634068/…

Dennis Nolte

morning

qoute CoC: The real-life test: You shouldn't talk to anyone here in a way that you wouldn't talk to someone in person, including a boss or new colleague.

ye right, if i talk here like i sometimes talk in real live i get banned instant..

avoid criticism of the author..
how the fuck are we supposed to tell them they should hire a professional now?

Iain

@DennisNolte Advising somebody that their skillset isn't up to he job in hand is constructive

Dennis Nolte

@Iain ye but we should avoid criticism, not only non-constructive. Maybe i am reading too much into it.

Journeyman Geek

7:51 AM

Honestly, I think its somewhat badly written

Iain

@JourneymanGeek the CoC ?

Journeyman Geek

Yup

It also feels the wrong side of PC, occationally repeats itself, and sounds like it got written by a lawyer trying to cover everything.

Iain

@JourneymanGeek It was written by some group of people trying to be pink-and-fluffy

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Journeyman Geek

@Iain: Pretty much

and I'm a big fan of keeping it simple, and letting the community handle things.

RobM

8:19 AM

Huggy-feely stuff always tends to be overwrought and overdone. We really should be able to say "Treat others at least as well as you would like to be treated. Plus no bigotry, though hopefully none of you would want to be treated that way anyway. If you don't behave you will get your ass bounced out the door. Discussion over thanks for coming"

Overly-complex statements are open season for rules-lawyering assholes

tombull89

I will find some other webhost that supports latest rails with cpanel support. I will not waste time on a web host without cpanel

well...okay then...

HE NEEDS TEH CPANELLLLLLL

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Iain

@RobM yes

This is so x/y serverfault.com/questions/634079/layer-7-dns-altering-solutions

pauska

8:35 AM

I'm going nutty over this..

coldforged.no/php.php <- "Display Errors" is Off, right?

then try this one.. coldforged.no/phpraider

been trying to fix it for days.. I'm about to just give up

Iain

@pauska errors !

@pauska is there an ini_set .. which switches it back on in the code anywhere ?

Jenny D

8:51 AM

@DennisNolte I think we should criticize what they do, not who or how they are. There's a difference between "you're an idiot" and "your actions are idiotic" - the latter isn't criticizing the person (though the person will probably disagree with me...)

Dennis Nolte

@JennyD so it seems business as usual :)

pauska

@Iain not that I can find.. refresh the second link, I even merged in phpinfo into the problematic file and it shows display_error to off

I've set error_reporting to 0, and that didn't help either

dawud

9:06 AM

morning

Iain

@pauska @MichaelHampton is good with php

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