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9:00 PM
Bastard...you stole my comment upvotes! ;)
Ouch @MattBear
 
@TheCleaner too mean?
 
warranted...but I'm guessing it is someone that thought "System Admin" was good enough over "user9028414"
odd that I still even slightly recall vbs
 
@TheCleaner I liked vbs :p
Vacation Bible School right?
 
I liked that too...semi-decent food and kickball.
 
uggh... trying to troubleshoot a LAMP issue, intermittent login failures on one of the apps
@TheCleaner and crafts!
 
9:16 PM
Whee!
 
@Magellan ?
 
@RyJones My recruiter's getting a little more nervous about me slipping away into something else before he can get me placed.
 
@Magellan well good he should have been on top of things before
 
@RyJones Not that he wasn't, he's been good. But I've been getting excellent response from resume's sent out in the past couple weeks. It's been awhile since he's actively had to sell me on interviewing with one of his suggestions.
Much like all y'all have said, the short time frame on the resume' doesn't seem to have hindered my desirability much. Figured two 3-4 months gig would make me radioactive, but it doesn't seem to be so at the moment.
 
@Magellan yeah, you'll do fine
 
9:23 PM
That UW gig looks really good too. And you don't necessarily loaf along when you're working on a Gates Foundation grant where the First Lady is using your charts & graphs in televised conferences.
NOT what I was actually expecting to hear from the UW guy.
So yeah. I'm stoked.
 
9:37 PM
If there was a button that would magically destroy every radio station on the planet, and simultaneously kill everyone involve with them, I would press it twice.
3
 
@Wesley =P You need to listen to KEXP.
But not this week. It's the fundraising drive this week, so they're talking more than normal.
 
@Magellan They need to listen to KFOAD.
 
@Wesley So what exactly do you hate about radio?
 
Minutes before an important broadcast I get a crush of phones calls and emails crying about their streaming source client not working. ZOMG NOTHING WERKSSS!!!
Yeah, I'll get to you sometime between 15-after-pound-sand and go-fuck-yourself-o'clock
 
@Wesley Ah. A radio station that's trying to scrimp by not having any technical staff. Yes, commercial radio can die in a fire.
 
9:43 PM
@Magellan Main time-suck of a client is a streaming provider for terrestrial station's streaming sports. Next week the pay-wall goes up so that should be fun.
 
@Wesley Are they paying you?
And actually paying you money.
 
@Magellan No, he's paywalling them
 
!mods
 
you want me to fix it? PAY ME.
 
@Magellan ...were. The pay-wall going up for about 180 stations will be where the money to pay about 10k in back invoices comes from.
 
9:44 PM
I'd like someone else to do something with this
There's still many assumptions in these responses. I wouldn't have asked if I had the luxury of free time to play around in code. I hoped someone actually knew the answer to this issue, as yet, nobody does. The issue is already resolved, the contract coders snaked their way through the five years of accumulated code and found no dependency. People and situations are not all cookie-cutter. In a competitive, dense market like the SF Bay Area, one can specialize more so than elsewhere, and not being a coder is not a liability. Again - asked due to lack of spare time, not laziness or ineptitude. — anastrophe 35 mins ago
close the question.t
the OP is a jackass fucktard
and this has been going on far too long
 
@Wesley Ah. So you've been working for free again, eh?
 
he's wrong.
I'm right.
and I can't close it without it looking like epic snark.
 
@Magellan <_<
 
@TomO'Connor meh, I'll just lock your answer for off-topic comments after I upvote it :)
 
@TomO'Connor when has that ever stopped you in the past?
=P
 
9:45 PM
@voretaq7 Suit yourself.
@Wesley Trying not to get DDossed by the guy
 
@TomO'Connor DDoS'd by an IP.
 
Wouldn't be surprised.
 
@TomO'Connor With a visual basic GUI.
Oh wait, he doesn't code.
Hey, I don't know how to code either, but at least I'm aware that I'm an idiot.
 
@Wesley I bet you can read code though.
 
@TomO'Connor I can stumble through. I'm really happy with my last month's worth of Ruby frobbing.
 
9:47 PM
So, here's a thing. Everyone should be able to read code, ask questions and figure it the fuck out.
 
Reading code is a hell of a lot easier than writing good code. Still easier than writing bad code.
 
@TomO'Connor I get lost with crazy lambdas and pointer stuffs. Memory managment on lower languages freaks me out.
 
Nobody should say "ERHMAGHERD, code! Gimme a dev, stat!"
everyone gets fucked by pointers.
that's what they're for
 
@TomO'Connor ANSI C touched me in bad places as a kid. =(
 
@TomO'Connor I welcome prissy bitches DDoSing me
 
9:48 PM
MetroWorks Codewarrior, bitches!
 
but then again I have friends in federal law enforcement
 
@voretaq7 haha
 
Okay, gotta get back to un-hosing radio stations.
 
I just wanna say (but probably shouldn't). "You're a douchenozzle, and I'm going to ensure the devops army strip you of your job and livelihood"
 
@TomO'Connor Seriously, if you can't at least look at code in any common language and suss out what it's doing you have no business being a sysadmin
 
9:50 PM
@voretaq7 Ex-fucking-actly.
 
Oh FFS. This just in from a "technician" Both encoders were not on. I started both. I turned off updates and the firewall.
 
that's not "devops" that's "basic competence" -- what are you going to do when the developer gets there, point at the server, shout "ITZ BROKENS!" and piss yourself?
 
@voretaq7 ahh but if he started 18 years ago that was the golden age of sysadmins not knowing code
 
@RyJones Do we know anyone in the Seattle area that's good with Linux and is a DevOps-y guy? I just had somebody call me wanting to interview me, but they need a full-blown DevOps Architect and not a DevOps-y sysadmin.
 
I can't imagine not being able to read and interpret code in an unfamiliar language.
 
9:50 PM
@Zypher I started about 14-15 years ago. I was expected to be able to handle a debugger.
 
@TomO'Connor Haskell.
 
I can even muddle through haskell ffs. Takes an age, but i can.
yes.
 
@voretaq7 oh yea but back then all you needed was to be young and know how to install windows to get 80% of the jobs
 
and that was as an intern - I remember asking my boss about something and getting an hour-long lesson in strace that basically ended with "So next time you won't need to bug me, right?"
 
and we still have to deal w/ those asshats
 
9:51 PM
@Zypher "deal with" being the euphemism for "drown them in a bucket like a runt kitten"?
 
yes
 
OK, just so long as we're all on the same page :)
Really the only problem I have with that little prat is his flashing his salary
 
he's in SF
 
sysadmins who go "I work in the bay area. I make a lot of money. RabblerabbleRABBLErabble" are like middle-managers who wear a Rolex every day
 
out there they don't have investment bankers to make them feel small when flashing salary
 
9:53 PM
get the fuck over yourself, you are NOT all that and a bag of potato-chips.
 
I wonder whether I know anyone who can drag him to the tenderloin and abandon him.
"Oh, i'm a bay-area sysadmin, ergo, I'm a CUNT".
 
@TomO'Connor . . . people that smarmy tend to be unattractive enough that they'll just get beat up and thrown out"
 
so now it's some sort of odd status symbol
 
"And, no, I don't work for Twitter"
 
@voretaq7 i want some chips now
 
9:54 PM
of course i bet i know bartenders in manhatten that make more than him
 
ERMAGHERD, ipo.
 
@TomO'Connor "well maybe you should, they're going to IPO soon"
 
@voretaq7 This is not a good thing.
 
@Zypher I'm SURE I know manhattan bartenders that make more than him :-)
 
hahaha
 
9:54 PM
@TomO'Connor no, it's not. But I may take advantage of it to pad some spending cash before twitter goes to shit and I have to write a replacement
 
@voretaq7 app.net
 
@TomO'Connor lolz
 
@TomO'Connor What's the suck quotient on that
Twitter is about a 0.22 which is pretty low for "social" suckage
(they were 0.10 until the new threaded replies shit started fucking up my whole timeline)
now instead of being short, upside-down, asynchronous IRC it's.... just fucked up
 
@voretaq7 1E-(Graham's Number)
 
@TomO'Connor lies. Nothing sucks that little.
unless it's powered off.
 
9:57 PM
@voretaq7 @Wesley does.
 
@TomO'Connor @Wesley has no bike. His suck quotient is fixed at 1 until he buys one.
 
@TomO'Connor My secrets!
@voretaq7 Then it's all downhill from there?
 
@Wesley Everyone has seen the video dear.
 
@voretaq7 @Wesley is the village bicycle. Everyone's had a ride.
 
@voretaq7 I was 19 and on peyote, I thought that guy was Cindy Crawford STOP JUDGING MEEEE!!!
 
9:59 PM
@TomO'Connor Rodeo Kitteh!
 
@TomO'Connor Everyone needs love!
 
@Wesley ...no, that was Cindy Crawford. That's why it's embarrassing.
 
@voretaq7 Oh you're bad.
 
@Wesley Just drawn that way.
 
Now now, you two... If you're going to flirt that much, maybe you two need your own room...
(and a bicycle)
 
10:01 PM
"I thought I was sleeping with Cindy Crawford.... then the drugs wore off and I thought it was Joan Crawford.... then I sobered up and realized it was Joan Rivers. I'm not sure it can get any worse, but someone please give me some tequila!" <-- @Wesley, on Date Night.
@freiheit Fun Facts: I do not own a bicycle
 
WTF. Even I own a bicycle.
 
@voretaq7 I assume that neither you nor @Wesley own a bicycle, and that that will never change.
 
@freiheit What do I need with a bike?
 
@freiheit Planes > Bicycles
 
I have a car. And I live 2 blocks away from a train station.
@Wesley Actually about the ONLY time I wish I had a bike is when I fly somewhere and there's no crew car, no taxi service, and nothing cool to do within walking distance of the airport.
 
10:04 PM
@Wesley So now you're going to get a plane instead of a bicyle?
 
@freiheit I have to get through the pilot's manual first.
 
@freiheit they actually make REALLY LIGHT ones (like, 5lb) that are basically designed for tossing in the back of a plane
but I lack the fundamental balance required to ride such a thing :-/
sometimes I bring my skateboard with me
 
@voretaq7 You can ride a skateboard but not a bicycle? The bicycle is basically self-balancing...
 
@freiheit not if you sit on it and scoot with your hands
 
10:09 PM
@Magellan no sir, sorry
This sounds familiar: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6379833 almost like we were just talking about it
 
@RyJones Thanks. Guy was a little miffed. Probably thought I was telling him to F off or something.
 
@Magellan all the devops guys I know here are very well employed. One of them moved to his family farm in Maine while still working in Seattle
Amazon, of course, hoovers those guys up and showers them with money
 
@RyJones I'm slightly surprised her name doesn't include any glottal stops in the spelling...
 
(it's rupees, but they don't know)
 
@RyJones Which is probably explains why I'm at a nearly 100% response rate on the one-sheet resume's I've been sending out. And why people are calling me wanting to interview me for DevOps Architect positions that I'm grossly under-qualified for.
 
10:15 PM
@Magellan nobody knows what devops is, anyway, just be sure you can spell Chef and Puppet and show up
 
@RyJones true
@Magellan Send 'em my way
 
@freiheit Bicycles aren't self balancing until they're moving pretty fast
and I can only ride certain skateboards (wide deck, square tail, low trucks, & fat wheels) - if you put me on one of the popsicle stick trick boards most kids ride I'll be on my face in about 5 minutes.
 
@voretaq7 Yeah. So get the bike moving before it falls over by putting one pedal 3/4 up, holding the brakes, and then releasing the brakes and stepping up onto that pedal to get your butt on the saddle in one motion.
 
@freiheit that sounds deliciously simple....
 
@voretaq7 it totally is
 
10:18 PM
... the net result is I usually fall in the direction of the pedal I was stepping on :P
<- hopelessly uncoordinated white boy.
 
@voretaq7 Here's a page with a convenient video showing the highly complicated technique: sheldonbrown.com/starting.html
 
@freiheit He's got crazy face/beard.
 
@84104 He's dead, but his website is still considered a great resource for bicycling info.
 
@JoelESalas The company's OwnerIQ. Looking for someone to work with their Seattle team.
I probably could've got the job, but judging by the description I don't think I could've delivered all the things they need. I'm good, but I'm not a sh*t-hot DevOps Architect with 5 years of experience either.
Hell, they hadn't even decided on a platform yet, and doing project management for the deployment would've been 1/3rd of the job.
 
Aw hell... I just realized RSAT on Win 8.1 is... nonexistent
 
10:28 PM
Do we have a good canonical 'how does DNS work' question?
 
@Zoredache Yeah, it's a pointer to this:
Dammit Amazon, summarize better!
 
@JoelESalas Let me know if you're interested. I can see if I can connect you two.
 
@Magellan I'm interested as side work, not a full-time gig
 
@JoelESalas ok. yeah, it's a FT startup position. Lots of work & lots of play.
 
@Wesley the guy on this question is starting to annoy me. I was kinda trying to look for an excuse to close his questions... serverfault.com/questions/538479/…
It initially looked like it might be an interesting question, but has devolved down to 'how does dns work', and 'where is my Bind config file'.
 
10:41 PM
@Magellan Thing is, most small shops don't have enough work for a full time devops guy
 
@Zoredache that whole comment thread is WTF
Dammit clipboard
I am a bit fustrated here. I don't believe I it is unreasonable to expect you to have already read and understood the DNS page on Wikipedia before adding that last comment. Your last comment strongly indicates to me that you are not taking the time to do basic homework and research on your own. Or if you are, your questions and comments are not reflecting that. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domain_Name_System en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…Zoredache 18 mins ago
 
11:00 PM
@Zoredache DNS is hard, let's go shopping?
 
Ergh- I feel terrible today. Time to go make some tea.
 
@voretaq7 Sure.Shopping for the DNS and Bind book anyway.
 
@RyanRies lolol n00b
 
Speaking of Amazon, they just emailed me and want an interview for AWS support engineer. Heh.
 
@MDMarra The RSAT for Win 8.1 Preview seems to work fine on Win 8.1 :)
 
11:08 PM
Remember the "AD migration battleship" customer that I was like "lol not my project"
well, its now my project
 
HAHAHAH
 
@MDMarra Hahahaha.
 
I mean, my condolences
 
My boss apparently flipped out at them
so they won't work with him any more
at least I got sucked in for a hilarious reason
 
@MDMarra Why'd he flip his hairy tits
 
11:10 PM
Well, the environment is a mess. We have no visibility into any of the 4 source domains and they keep saying "why do we have to do this documentation for server configs what are we paying you for"
and he finally lost his shit and was like THIS ISNT AN ISSUE IN MOST ENVIRONMENTS. THIS IS SO OUT OF SCOPE. YOURE NOT PAYING FOR ANY OF THIS. DO YOUR JOB AND DOCUMENT THESE SERVERS THAT WE CANNOT EVEN LOG INTO AND YOU SHOULD ALREADY HAVE DOCUMENTED
Needless to say, that did not go over well, regardless of how hilarious it was
the worst part is that a different practice director snuck "AD migration" into the in-scope section to make a sale
So we weren't even involved until they're like hey guys ready to migrate lol
 
@MDMarra Make that guy do the documentation or talk with the customer then?
 
nah, not how it works
practice directors do pre-sales and drive the partnership with the vendor (cisco/vmware/microsoft/emc)
we have one for each practice
but once the project gets signed, it goes to the delivery teams for each practice and those guys arent involved anymore
 
Oh, I thought practice was as in he is learning to become a director.
 
nah
 
ok... how would I handle authentication for a php app in a farm?
 
11:15 PM
@Zoredache There was a political shakeup with the directors right after this happened. So it did not go unnoticed
 
@MattBear link to AD/LDAP/SAML/OpenID and be done.
 
@Zoredache love to, not gonna happen
LAMP stack, users in MySQL
 
@MattBear what kind of farm. Are you talking about corn, sheep, and cows. Or what?
@MattBear LAMP stack links into LDAP just fine. About 50 lines of code.
Assuming a relatively simple LDAP setup anyway.
 
im trying to add some redundancy by adding a second load balanced apache server
 
@MattBear ok, but what is the authentication problem?
 
11:18 PM
@MDMarra Remind me that I don't want to work for you.
 
Are you using PHP sessions or something?
 
@Magellan its usually not a problem
 
@Zoredache mind you, I'm not a dev, but I believe so
 
and the guy that did it got removed from the microsoft practice haha
 
@MDMarra Yeah, not my first rodeo either. Once bitten, twice shy.
 
11:19 PM
@MattBear if the problem is related to session, it is probably because the sessions are written to the filesystem (web server temp directory). You can either share that temp directory to both servers, or store the sessions in a database.
 
what is happening is when they login, its successfull, but when they start hitting links eventually they have to login again, and then its fine
@Zoredache thats what I'm thinking, waiting on the dev's to figure out wtf they did to begin with
look at the code, determine what the cookies generated are etc..
 
@MattBear Just how much traffic are you handling again?
 
@Wesley not too much, uptime is a priority though
 
@MattBear ah okay
 
I am not a dev, but shouldn't your devs just know this off the top of their heads. This is really basic standard php stuff. Should take like 30 seconds of grepping to figure out.
Grep the page used for authentication. If $_SESSION is in there anywhere, then it is a session problem.
 
11:25 PM
@Zoredache they are using $_SESSION
 
@MattBear You write a custom session handler, and then stuff them in a database or memcached or redis or something.
 
according to them, there is nothing written server side
 
Then your devs have some work to do before you can scale out.
 
@MattBear If they are using $_SESSION, then they are wrong.
 
what do I need to direct them to use?
 
11:27 PM
If $_SESSION is wrong, what is right?
 
@MattBear Do you want to make it easy for them, or easy for you. Easy for them would be a shared filesystem combined with config directive pointing php to store sessions on the shared filesystem.
 
Look at you guys, talking about all these world wide web technologies. You really better hope this Internet thing takes off.
 
@MichaelHampton I was replying to the statement that there is nothing stored on the server. If $_SESSION is used, then there is something stored on the server.
And the devs are lieing/ignorant.
 
@Zoredache They might have just called session_start() and forgotten about writing the rest of the code.
 
Sessions belong in a key:value mapping
and should be generated by an AAA service
 
11:29 PM
@JoelESalas You're so cute when you speak dev
 
the POST to /login or whatever should redirect to auth.company.com and return a valid session key that the user can send as a header for future requests
 
@JoelESalas sure, but then MattBear will have to setup another server.
 
@Zoredache I'll do it for him
 
@Zoredache wouldnt that go back to the same issue of one machine going down, it all goes down?
 
@MattBear Do you not trust your shared storage?
 
11:31 PM
@JoelESalas I dont trust anything
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@JoelESalas and our shared storage in this case is Windows Azure
 
@MattBear There are distributed filesystems. Not sure I trust most of them.
 
@MattBear The fuck are you doing running a PHP stack in Azure
2
 
@JoelESalas I dont make these choices, I just follow them
 
I only use Azure because MS was nice enough to give me some freebies.
 
and try to make it all work
 
11:33 PM
@MattBear You should advocate against
 
@JoelESalas its either azure, or old unstable non redundant hardware
 
@MattBear wait, I thought Azure was unstable non-redundant hardware...
 
considering the alternatives, azure is the best option
 
@JoelESalas whats wrong with that?
 
@MattBear How about the third option of actually building out a correct server config
 
11:35 PM
@JoelESalas rofl
 
@MDMarra Windows is not especially well-suited to running PHP
 
@JoelESalas Oh of course not
But you dont have to run Windows on Azure
 
@JoelESalas wait, windows?
 
@MattBear Oh it's Linux on azure?
 
how would I run a LAMP stack on windows...
 
11:35 PM
@MattBear well it's a WAMP stack
or a WIMP stack
 
@JoelESalas azure is just cloud hosting
 
@MattBear I don't know if you're trying to be funny or really don't know the terrors of people that do
 
@MattBear Colinux.
 
@MattBear I still don't know why you'd run Linux on Windows
 
@JoelESalas its Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
 
11:37 PM
@MattBear there are people that literally install the apache, php, and mysql windows ports and run it in production
 
and before the ZOMG UBUNTU SUUUUCCKS
 
@MattBear so the azure hosts are actually ubuntu?
 
it was how it was set up when I got here :p
 
@JoelESalas It's a hypervisor, bro
 
@MDMarra Windows is not a hypervisor
Nor is linux
 
11:37 PM
Azure runs on Hyper-V which is a hypervisor
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The parent partition is Windows
But it's no more "running linux on windows" than "running Windows on Linux" in VMware because the service console is Linux in ESXi
 
@MDMarra ESXi is a proper hypervisor, I wouldn't know enough about Hyper-V but if it's a server role then it's definitely not a type-1 hypervisor
 
it's a hypervisor, bro
google it
It's Type-1 not Type-2
The ESXi service console is RHEL with special sauce on top
But the service console != the hypervisor in ESXi
Any more than the Windows Server OS that you manage Hyper-V with is
 
Oh nice, so it's one HAL
that's pgood
 
Yeah when you install the role on a full Windows install the parent partition becomes a special case VM that can manage the hypervisor, essentially (btw there's a hyper-v server install too)
It's not exactly that simple
 
@MDMarra whoaoaoaoaoa
that is kind of rad
 
11:41 PM
But it's similar to the ESXi service console
 
@JoelESalas You can install Hyper-V Server for without windows. It is even free.
 
@Zoredache And shockingly Hyper-V Server's licensing has less rape in it than VMware.
 
ESXi does a similar thing. The service console that you use the vSphere CLI in and can SSH into is just a RHEL VM with special sauce. It's just that you hardly ever have to think of it like that in ESXi because it's less in your face
 
@MDMarra we might be switching from ESXi over to hyper-V on our local server
 
In that case it's just @MattBear dicking it up, can't blame that one on Azure
 
11:42 PM
@MDMarra I thought it was SUSE last time I looked. Did they update to RHEL/Centos?
 
It may be SUSE
It was RHEL at once time many moons ago
 
@Zoredache It's always been RHEL, I believe
 
@JoelESalas wait, what am I dicking up now?
 
@MattBear For the shitty PHP session thing you're going to have to put them on an NFS share
it would HAVE to be fixed in software otherwise
since your application appears to be stateless through the LB
 
@JoelESalas were fixing the software,
 
11:44 PM
It should be pretty easy
 
according to a dev "The site is totally procedural with each individual page checking for session variables"
 
@MattBear Hahahahaah
 
which is how it was when he got here.... 173 files
 
This site is totally 0wned
 
@MattBear Hopefully there is a require_once to some global file that is shared by all the scripts?
 
11:46 PM
@Zoredache dunno
hell, I bearly got a SSL cert for the damn site
 
@MattBear "bearly" I get it
 
rawr
 
@JoelESalas you see what I did there :p
 
I somewhat want to actually look at the source, just out of morbid curiosity. There is lots of PHP suckage in the world, I want to see how much you have.
 
@Zoredache Plot twist: It's written in BobX
 
11:48 PM
You came just to say that @voretaq7...? In a scale of 1 to 10, How old are you? — Mounir Ahmina 6 mins ago
bahahahahahahahahhahahaha
 
@Zoredache I think it's pretty clear, they have all of it.
 
Aw, one of you blues deleted it
 
@Zoredache I am not a dev, so I couldnt tell you haha
 
DAMN BLUES
 
It was annoying me.
 
11:51 PM
now one of the devs is trying to argue AGAINST having a load balanced web farm...
mostly because I'm pretty sure he doesnt want to fix the damn cookies
 
This is where you need an architect in the mix
Someone to say "This is the hardware, this is the flow of data, devs - go to work"
 
@MattBear If you don't have a load issue, could you just setup this as a so that it will auto-fail to another VM host on hardware failures?
 
@RyanRies Friday night lights, bitches!
 
@MattBear What the fuck dude?
 
@Wesley Is the scheduler being used by any customers yet?
 
11:54 PM
@Zoredache would be possible I guess, but thats not how the Azure availability sets are designed.... I dont think
 
@JoelESalas Get into consulting. You'll really get to see how terrible 93.45% of IT departments are
 
And now for something completely different.
Jesus if down-voted below zero and moderators deleting questions define "bad" then how to you define "censored"? — Evan Carroll 2 mins ago
 
@MattBear You should be able to configure the SESSION persist stuff with server directives. You shouldn't need to change any of the existing files.
 
@MDMarra I want to! When's @ewwhite and @MDMarra Consulting (feat. @joelesalas) going to kick off
 
Nah, it would have to be the other way
I'm not taking a risk starting a consulting firm with Edmundo here
 
11:57 PM
rofl
 
Once you and him get off the ground and can pay me a guaranteed salary and benefits, I'll sign on for a mere 20% stake
Until then, I'm happy with my day job
 
@RyanRies No, I packed it and documented it, but the ability for the stations to elect to use it from their control panel has not been implemented yet. I'm mad at the college kid who's the dev. He's, IMO, kinda being precious.
 
As college kids are wont to do
 
@RyanRies Irritates me. We would have had the paywall up this weekend, but nooooo.
So now I'm watching thousands of people on the site and none of them are income streams until next weekend.
 
>:(
 

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