The Comms Room

@MDMarra I don't think it was recorded. They (he and a friend across the hall, I think) viewed it on a webcam. If it was recorded he didn't post it.

no recording

Recorded/viewed, I thought whatever it was happened more than once

just an ichat session to his computer

Dharun Ravi, fancied himself a computer whiz... he was proud of modifying ichat to auto-accept connections.

3:01 PM

He connected to his own webcam to see what his roommate was doing, supposedly to make sure his stuff wasn't getting stolen or messed with.

He was "going" to have a viewing party at one point but didn't.

basically, in the matter of a week, the roommate had brought an internet hookup over three times for sex.

sounds like college to me

the hookup was a little sketch... was about 12 years older...

And his roommate is a douchebag.

Very sketchy.

And the kid wasn't in the closet.

just so you dont think im lying

3:03 PM

and Dharun was sexiled for hours.

2

He just didn't advertise it either.

yes, that is the ACTUAL network map at that location

I removed all the red connections

which is just an annoying thing... so for me, I think the kids were just being assholes to each other

They literally had a network cable going from like port 2 to port 3 in the same switch?!

3:03 PM

each of those boxes is a switch

Derp.

bought a six pack on the way home.. I need to drink them.. now

The comments the kid made about hating poor people and such...that's the type of crap I expect from ignorant moronic teenagers.

But that's how kids talk to each other.

Now your "private" conversations are used to roast you in court.

3:05 PM

right...

and that's the impact of the case.

Right down the slurs that they shouldn't use, but do.

In private conversation.

if Dharun was posting "I hat poor people" on a public forum...

but he was just grandstanding.

I used to like drama, too...

I think it was in an email or a chat conversation to his friend.

My college life was one long episode of Dawson's Creek without any screwing of Michelle Williams.

"Oh man, my roommie is hooking up with an internet guy for the 3rd time this week and I'm stuck in the study lounge until 2am"

Hell yeah, I'd tell my friends

the mistake was in having a public twitter feed :)

And on top of that...regarding hate speech...

as a white person, if I use the "N word" it's hate speech. If minorities use it, it's fine. Wha?!

IF you legislate the hell out of saying things, or dividing up what you're allowed to say versus not allowed to say, don't you think there's going to be resentment and/or backlash at some point?

3:09 PM

It depends on intent. If you try and slip it into casual conversation, then you're just misguided and probably dumb, but it's not hateful. If you use it to degrade someone, then that's hateful

Does there come a point when you're afraid of lawsuits to the point where, for example, you'd favor hiring some guy just because he isn't a woman, and you won't deal with sexual harassment issues?

It's all in the application and intent. Should I be offended if I overhear Ethabelle reciting hip-hop lyrics? Not really. I don't care. Or should I be offended if I'm in Indiana and someone yells the epithet at me? There, it makes a difference.

It's the intent, not the word, though due to the stigma of this particular one, everyone should keep back from it

@MDMarra Intent doesn't matter. Perception of intent matters.

Right

3:10 PM

@ewwhite It's not should. It's can it be.

A reasonable person doesn't put themselves in a position to be misconstrued when using language like that, though.

Anyone that does deserves what they get

Ethabelle is still around?

Yeah, around.

wfaulk

I just hate that crimes are based on what people were thinking when they committed them

that's just asinine

since you can't prove it at all

We're a country that likes jailing people.

It's a bit sick.

3:12 PM

@wfaulk Intent is the difference between Murder 2 and Manslaughter in the US

Cold T

accidental murder lol

@wfaulk You might not be able to prove it 100%, but beyond a reasonable doubt it mostly obtainable.

Basically the jury has to decide if the accused was like "oh fuck, how did he die" or "fuck this dude, dropkick to the skull with a hammer"

wfaulk

I just don't get why someone should get a different sentence depending on why he hated the victim

gray area.

3:15 PM

Maybe because someone that has a deep seeded hatred for someone based on a stereotype is much less likely to be rehabilitated in jail and released as a productive member of society?

yeah, that's a good reason

not that we focus on rehab... :)

right, but that is the actual original reason for prison in the first place

@wfaulk Manslaughter being unintentional taking of life.

Negligence, for example

Then there are varying degrees of murder code... intent, and pre-meditated intent

@JeffFerland or if something criminal caused a death but you didnt mean to cause it

@MDMarra Yes, in most places any death incidental to a felony

3:17 PM

ya

Little old lady gets a heart attack while you're robbing a bank? Possible manslaughter

@MDMarra now now, I don't need to shit on Linux. It shits where it eats, then rolls in it :-)

We now have a mandate to not use the word "retard" anymore. People aren't "retarded" they're "intellectually disabled." Which is stupid. Because "retard" means "slow." "Disabled" means it doesn't work. It's broken. As a pedant, I'd take offense to the new more politically correct term.

I just need to make sure I stay out of the legal system

@BartSilverstrim That's not what that campaign is about

3:18 PM

well, the justice system...

also it just took me 45 minutes to drive 20 miles.

@ewwhite Bury your bodies deep ;)

It's about kids not calling other, normal, kids "retards" when they do something stupid.

@MDMarra What is it then?

It has nothing to do with people being PC with the name of the condition for the people that suffer from it

3:19 PM

Sorry, network died temporarily.

that's political correctness gone awry

@MDMarra Are we going to dub out every move where "the R word" is used, like all those "intellectually disabled" folks want to do with the twin towers in movies?

@voretaq7 not sure what you're getting at

We had to attend a sensitivity training because one kid called another kid something.

Which had nothing to do with us.

@MDMarra I get that the word is offensive, I find it offensive when black people go around using the N-word because I have some friends who have had the unique displeasure of having it used as a racial slur in some less-than-friendly circumstances. I don't go around telling people not to say it, though I ask my friends not to use it around me.

3:21 PM

And we had to watch a video about a gay kid getting bullied. Keep in mind that we have high school boys who wore high heels in school and another who is openly gay who after school wore costume wings and a skirt and ran around the track. During practice. And there was nothing made of these things because in our school no one cared.

Sometimes I think it's just to make things harder to throw around... "intellectually disabled" doesn't roll off the tongue like "retard" does.... so you don't hear kids going down the hall saying, "hey intellectually disabled..."

Gay bullying is not, from what I can tell, an issue here.

There's nothing wrong with referring to certain mental conditions as 'mentally retarded" or "retarded". But it is wrong if people go around calling other people retarded instead of "dumb" or "stupid"

@MDMarra Um...yes. There is. Because now it's a mandate in our workplace.

Lucas Kauffman

@Ladadadada I managed it, I made sympa work T_T

3:23 PM

@BartSilverstrim Most people that are actually retarded do understand their surrounding, etc. Do you know how heartbreaking it is for them to hear other people using "retard" so negatively?

WHY IS DESCRIBING SOMETHING AS "MASTURBATORY" CONSIDERED AN INSULT

Tweeted by yelling_bird on March 4, 2012 at 7:26 AM

Seems fitting

@MDMarra In this country one of the very few rights they haven't taken away yet is the right to use the words we want, regardless of if they offend someone.

That's right, YB is on-topic

@BartSilverstrim You obviously have no one in your family like that if that's your stance on it. Lucky you.

@voretaq7 I wasn't saying it should be illegal to say retard. I was pointing out that @BartSilverstrim took the wrong message away from those commercials.

3:24 PM

@MDMarra So because some people use it negatively as a slur, it's mandated that the word is now not to ever be used, meaning you're validating that?

@ewwhite How do you scroll up in the OpenSolaris terminal?

@BartSilverstrim Not at all. The whole point of those commercials is not to use it as a slur

@MDMarra Um...I do have some "issues" within the family, but thanks for the assumption.

Heh, no clue :)

What commercials?

What commercial are you talking about?

3:24 PM

@ChrisS Haven't looked in awhile.

@ewwhite I thought you were Nexenta all up and down?!

►

When you said "campaign" I assumed you meant the wide-spread ad campaign recently about it

...dude,...I don't get TV.

FFS, it really shouldn't be this hard...

No.

3:25 PM

@ChrisS It just runs. I haven't needed to go to the terminal in awhile.

I'm talking about a memo.

I canceled my satellite service months ago. I don't watch Glee, although I recognize they're on that show.

What's on Glee?

The actresses in your screenshot.

Any idea what all these "p#" and "s#" are after a storage device's name? (ie "c2t0d0p0")?

Didn't realize that

3:27 PM

May have already been posted today, but:

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@ChrisS s is slice, p -- partition?

But I'm afraid I know nothing about the commercials seeing as a @#$% HATE COMMERCIALS and canceled our TV service.

I bet that was pauska when he finally found the loop.

@voretaq7 It's got both for the same disk....

@ChrisS mrrr??????

3:28 PM

@BartSilverstrim Sounds like there was a misunderstanding then. Watch what I linked to, and you'll see what I was talking about

well... ad0s1a -- controller isn't listed, but disk, slice, and "a" is the partition...

@voretaq7 c2t0d0p0 .. c2t0d0p4 and c2t0d0s0 .. c2t0d0s15

@ChrisS ..."I've never seen it do that before"

solaris?

@voretaq7 I'm on an OpenIndiana system..

Apparently. But I'm more irritated with several abuses in the system that have come from special services, as well as family members that got several little perks from pity when he was more than capable of doing things and used his disability as a crutch.

3:30 PM

I know FreeBSD inside and out, and OI is not the same or close enough that I can guess.

@ChrisS yeah it's closest to Solaris, but I've never seen "p" in storage device names on Solaris before.

jscott

@PeterGrace Does he have his hand wedged into that Dell Dimension laying on its side?

So that's how you do it...

@jscott he's "managing" it.

::cough cough::

jscott

taking notes furiously...

@voretaq7 Like on farms, to inseminate cows?

3:32 PM

@BartSilverstrim only without the turkey baster.

stupid wrong window...

Post the password post a password...

x35Q3YgX

hunter2

Damn you. :)

3:34 PM

:p

Post the IP now.

@voretaq7 NOTICE: alloc: /: file system full -- whoops

Wait a few hours for it to sh@# itself. Then it'll be empty enough for another meal.

@ChrisS you're a big FreeBSDer? Do you know, is there a rescue disk somewhere?

@PeterGrace: you're not going to ask Voretaq?

He has Chuckie tattooed twixt' his nethers.

3:41 PM

haha.

@PeterGrace I don't think they make the "rescue" disk anymore... Just the boot only installer, and you can "escape" to a console from there.

Ladadadada

@LucasKauffman Nice one! I guess I should go back and poke around with it at some point. The main downside to mlmmj when using it for one-shot mailouts is that it requires me to manually copy the raw email file around on the server and manage all the subscriptions. Sympa looks easy enough for the marketing department to use.

This is the problem: Dell/KACE distribute a VM

this VM uses 2mb block size for a 500gb disk

I need to resize this thing so I can install the fucking thing in esxi 4.1 with 1MB block sizes

RecueDisk == Backups

Lucas Kauffman

@Ladadadada my problem was that it made another alias file for some reason, and when using postfix sympa,postfix and the webserver user need to be in the same group

3:42 PM

@PeterGrace Manipulate using a local install of vmware player?

That's my plan, yep.

if I can get to a root shell I can at least get an idea of if I can resize the filesystem and such.

Attach disk...use Ubuntu boot disc to run partimage.

Lucas Kauffman

@Ladadadada it's just sooo badly documented

l0c0b0x

serverfault.com/questions/64050/… Running Windows updates on 80 servers over the weekend, only critical and security updates. A combo of 2003 and 2008 servers, kinda hard to test to see if something is going to break since they're all doing different things. Any info, ideas?

@ChrisS NOTICE: alloc: /: filesystem full -- CLEAN UP YOUR SHIT!

3:46 PM

can ubuntu resize bsd filesystems?

@PeterGrace I'm assuming this VM is FreeBSD based (not terribly familiar with KACE, though I know they're a large contributor). You can't resize UFS2 partitions. You'd have to boot the installer disk to a console, with the old and a new vmdk; replicate the partition layout, format, and copy everything over.

l0c0b0x

"it should be pretty safe, right?".... famous words.

Exactly

<-- partition snob

How come for why does the system not produce nice error messages

@PeterGrace I think it can.

3:46 PM

@ChrisS ah, this is depressing.

If partimage doesn't support it it just greys out the option. You won't lose anything trying.

@voretaq7 Me trying to dd if=/dev/zero of=/path/to/disk FAIL

@Bart truth, and I don't mind trying it

@ChrisS @PeterGrace there's a LiveCD which is as close to a rescue disk as you can get...

@PeterGrace Yes, if you don't know your way around the BSD CLI, it would be.

3:47 PM

@ChrisS wheee!

You might have to fall back on @chriss's suggestion, but if it fails, at least it's not a whole afternoon in the attempt.

@ChrisS @PeterGrace can't growfs(8) handle UFS2 filesystems?

UFS support in Partimage is "dangerous" and in beta.

(within the annoying limits of growfs of course)

@BartSilverstrim EVERYTHING is dangerous and in beta.

@voretaq7 He's looking to shrink the file system... You're right, my bad choice of words

3:51 PM

FreeBSD: Y U NO SUPPORT LVM?! :-p

@ChrisS growing it would work too assuming of course you have room to do so.

@BartSilverstrim STUPID USER: Y U NO USE ZFS?! :-p

but yeah UFS isn't really designed to shrink. or grow, but growing is a much easier problem to solve.

@voretaq7 Y U NO USE ZFS ON LVM?!

@BartSilverstrim there's nothing logical about storage?

:)

I have an OpenIndiana VM on this workstation instance but I was stuck at the same spot I get every time I am presented with a linux desktop: Now What?

3:57 PM

@PeterGrace install flash?

:-D

haha, no, I mean, its pretty useless to me as a desktop anymore

linux, I mean, and by extension, openindiana

Don't get me wrong, I still identify myself as a "unix guy" but I feel more and more that it belongs on servers, not on desktops.

?

You're saying linux is not really for desktop/workstations?

@BartSilverstrim I've been saying that for years.

Yes.

I am saying exactly that.

I used Linux as a desktop from 1996 through about 2001

I gave up after being so pissed off at it. I try ubuntu every few revs to see if it gets better, it doesn't.

@voretaq7 SHUT UP YOU WANT TO RUN FREEBSD ON THE DESKTOP

4:00 PM

the interface is disjointed, people in open source can't stop circlejerking each other and standardize on one widget tech; there's ten projects that try to do the same thing and they ALL SUCK because they don't want to pool resources and just make a good product

@BartSilverstrim oh hellz no.

Q: OpenIndiana installation hangs at 2% - Preparing disk for OpenIndiana installation

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I've been trying to install OpenIndiana on an HP DL320 G6 for a while now. I've got a 16GB HP SDHC card in the onboard slot and a SATA CD-Rom with oi-dev-151a-text-x86.iso burnt to a disc. Installation seems to progress fine until I get to the actual installation portion. The SD card is picked ...

@PeterGrace Ah...I solved my own dilemma in that area by running OS X at home, Linux on my work workstation.

@PeterGrace This.

HALP! I posted this Question 15 seconds ago and still no answers.

4:01 PM

@PeterGrace Opensource has always been about indulging programmer's itches. Not a user's.

Lunch time; they've got pizza for the office. =]

@BartSilverstrim yes, and this bothers me.

@ChrisS Nice!

Programmers and their mindsets are...special. Like snowflakes. Snowflakes of frozen acid.

I've found that using Linux at work is a great way to even it out. OS X also has a lot of BSD-type underpinnings to compromise when I need something to work, although Apple really effed up some of the UNIX functionality in favor of their own stuff.

lunch for us too... "Junk Food", the lady says from downstairs. So, we'll see what that means.

So for desktop use I really think the Mac is the most "user friendly" for getting stuff done, all said and done.

4:04 PM

@BartSilverstrim a mac provides an acceptable terminal/console multiplexing device.

and a functional web browser/mail client

which is all I need or want in a workstation.

...I'm waiting for the snarky part.

They screwed up remote access, it seems. And I really wish I could remotely execute things on the Mac/Finder the way X allows.

4:18 PM

@ChrisS did you really tag that question with hang?

Remind me to add hang to the list of tags that we should slaughter

:D

Here's a question.

Are there characteristics among "tech people" that you find almost universal?

@MDMarra ...yes, yes he did.

everyone point and hiss :-)

@BartSilverstrim A well-deserved sense of superiority

installation too, which is arguably as hideous

@MDMarra Installation is meta, but I think it's good meta personally

4:20 PM

My wife got irritated with me because I said it surprised me that she wanted to be a "computer engineer" when she was in high school, as she didn't fit what I thought was a technology type.

@MDMarra intel-ation Oh damn it you fixed it.

@voretaq7 Who is ever going to favorite or sort by installtion?

@Joel IM TOO FAST

So I wondered if you people had noticed certain traits that tend to follow "tech people."

@BartSilverstrim As a whole we're not very attractive.

Myself, being an obvious exception

(jk of course)

I tended to think that good tech people were the ones that knew if Han shot first.

Kirk or Picard.

Obsessing over why something works.

and how.

4:22 PM

@BartSilverstrim All I know is, if Picard had been commander of the Voyager, that shit would have been home in 2 weeks.

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Have Aspergian tendencies.

Yeah, Janeway made too many pit stops.

But at least they liberated Seven.

There's also a tendency to argue over technical merit in order to gain some respect among peers.

Does anyone else keep toothpaste and a toothbrush in their desk?

People in my hallway think I'm weird

More than currying political favor and giving importance of social interaction.

@MDMarra I keep toothbrush and floss

@Joel Janeway is the only woman who wouldn't stop and ask for directions.

4:25 PM

@mdmarra: not here. Just because it would be messy.

@Joel Ok, so I'm about to nerd out. In one ep of Voyager, Paris gave the km/s of warp 9.9, which Voyager could cruise at. Given the number of lightyears away that they were from earth, it would have been a 3.3 year journey as a straight shot at warp 9.9. Hardly insurmountable.

Engines can't run at 9.9 constantly.

They can only maintain cruise velocity.

@MDMarra This is 100% of why I like nerds

For example, I can ruin Back to the Future very easily

Otherwise the warp coils burn out.

@Joel And simultaneously why I hate writers.

@BartSilverstrim what was cruise? I thought Voyager max was 9.995 and they could cruise at 9.9

I also didn't follow the show as much as I did TNG and Enterprise

4:28 PM

Disregard the absurdity of time travel and anything of the like. Even given that time travel is possible, the planet wasn't in the same exact spot in the galaxy in 1955 and 1995. The DeLorean would have time traveled back and arrived into empty space.

You can hand-wave this away by claiming that the car adjusts for this.

This is true

@MDMarra hang on...

Hmm...9.975.

@MDMarra there's a big plasma storm in the way. we have to detour around it.

@voretaq7 +9 years

@MDMarra its REALLY BIG!

4:29 PM

Three years between refueling, too.

:D

YOU ARE SUCH NERDS.

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@BartSilverstrim yeah... that's my question: Where the fuck do they get the antimatter?

@Joel You could argue that it has a way of anchoring itself to gravity wells through time travel.

I mean it's not like there's lots of it just lying around the galaxy. That would kinda - ya know - DESTROY SHIT...

4:30 PM

@voretaq7 Bussard scoops help replenish, slightly.

@BartSilverstrim I'll give them that for hydrogen, for the impulse engines

@BartSilverstrim Assuming that the DeLorean creates a singularity (which is the most reasonable way I'm aware of to bridge two points in space-time), wouldn't the gravity of the singularity be WAY WAY MORE than the earth's?

but unless they're fusing that interstellar hydrogen and using the energy to create teeny tiny bits of antimatter to feed the warp reactor we're back to "If there were enough antimatter floating around to power a starship it would start destroying shit with BIG EXPLOSIONS"

Fuck, just like that! All productivity lost for the day. Now I'm thinking about time travel.

@Joel If we're creating a singularity to warp time it's a short leap to assume that we can fold space a little bit too

(which means the DeLorean is now a TARDIS)

4:32 PM

@Joel Not necessarily.

@voretaq7 Hence the hand-wave "The car does it. It's magic. Or science. Fuck off"

wormholes are theoretically popping in and out of existence at the sub atomic scale all the time.

@Joel damn right. Now put your garbage in the Mr. Fusion so we can get the fuck outta here!

@voretaq7 I'm still waiting for my Mr. Fusion

@voretaq7 It's all in containers. They only need a little at a time. Antimatter doesn't actually propel the ship, it just creates a warp bubble

Propulsion is all magnetic voodoo

4:34 PM

A TNG Tec manual suggest that a galaxy Class ship has a device that can create Antimatter. Although it's never cannonlly brought up, Kirk did say there power source renews itself in "The Mark of Gideon". --TOSrules 08:26, Feb 9, 2005 (CET)

@MDMarra I like the Professor's ship in Futurama. The engines don't move the ship, they move the universe and the ship stays still

@MDMarra actually it doesn't create the funky subspace bubble, it just provides RICH CHUNKY VOLTS to energize the warp coils :-)

@Joel It came to me in a dream, and then I forgot it in another dream!

@Joel That's supposedly kind of how warp bubbles work.

in a way.

@voretaq7 nerd

@MDMarra ayup

@MDMarra I can also tell you more than you ever wanted to know about jumpgates and hyperspace in B5 (which seems FAR MORE PLAUSIBLE as a means of travel, I'm just sayin')

4:35 PM

@voretaq7 Possibly my favorite line in the entire program: "If you can imagine it, you can invent it! That's what being a scientist is all about!"

Black hole starship

A black hole starship is a theoretical idea for enabling interstellar travel by propelling a starship by creating an artificial black hole and using a parabolic reflector to reflect its Hawking radiation. In 2009, Louis Crane and Shawn Westmoreland of Kansas State University published a paper investigating the feasibility of this idea. Their conclusion was that it was on the edge of possibility, but that quantum gravity effects that are presently unknown may make it easier or make it impossible. Although beyond current technological capabilities, a black hole starship offers some advanta...

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@pauska Yup. Way too nerdy for me.

faster than light travel is a fascination of mine - I have quite a few books with theoretical models, most of which involve all sorts of interesting non-enstenian mathematics built on top of black holes

@voretaq7 You mean like in the movie Lost In Space?

@BartSilverstrim speak of the devil, I've read that paper.

4:37 PM

@voretaq7 I'd rather just find a mass relay. Easier and quicker.

@voretaq7 Never watched it

@Joel you can do it with massive acceleration too (relativistic gravity should theoretically work just as well, and you'd crank yourself up to "black hole" mass long before you hit the speed of light)

I liked Stargate.

@MDMarra deprived child.

I miss Stargate.

4:38 PM

Here's the thing. I think that the universe it teeming with life. I'm talking billions of planets with life. Someone would have visited if FTL travel were possible

@BartSilverstrim I liked stargate before O'Neil became a general

@MDMarra The surest sign that there is intelligent life out there in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us yet.

haha

@MDMarra We've been around for such a tiny blip. The next alien cruise ship to our underdeveloped planet could be millennia away

@MDMarra What makes you think we're worth visiting?

Realistically, if we could build a ship that approached the speed of light, we could travel to distant stars in (what would appear to us) be be a short time, but would be thousands of years to other observers

4:39 PM

I'm serious - we're a primitive bunch of apes bent on self-destruction.
Looking at us that way, would ***YOU*** want to contact us?

^^ We can't even make FUCKING MARKDOWN work! ^^

@voretaq7 If I want something self-destroyed, YES!

FTL travel isn't totally necessary for exploration, but it is if you want to relay the results back to present-day earth

There is the theory that any civilization reaching the point of space travel would have annihilated itself by then.

@MDMarra hush. Relativity isn't important. Gravity can't bend light. The cat is dead!

And besides that, automated exploration makes more sense than sending sentient beings out, if they're similar to us.

4:41 PM

@MDMarra FTL communication is necessary -- and then we're back into funky relativity issues.

@voretaq7 That's the one thing that would keep me from going on a manned mission to mars: No Internet

I hope all these fucking physicists find the Higgs particle so that they can get back to figuring out how the fuck I can be on a FTL ship before I die.

@Joel you'd have internet.

The bandwidth delay product would be insane though…

@MDMarra If Higgs really valued his boson he wouldn't have lost it.

@voretaq7 But can I play first-person shooters? NO, it would have to be a LAN game with the other colonists.

@voretaq7 It'd be like playing Diablo I on battle.net over Prodigy dial-up.

4:42 PM

:-P

@Joel pick your colonists carefully :)

@Joel super-long interplanetary fiber

@voretaq7 The first question on the application would be "Is screen-looking cheating or not?"

Run it out your window from your router, tape it to the ship, and drag it all the way to Mars. No one will notice

@MDMarra Light in fiber will be slower than passing through the near-vacuum of space.

@voretaq7 If there's an infinitely long steel rod etc etc etc

4:45 PM

@MDMarra It seemed like a good idea at the time™

@voretaq7 Obviously, I'm talking about interplanetary space fiber.

I first saw this problem on the Google Labs Aptitude Test. A professor and I filled a blackboard without getting anywhere. Have fun.

Keep up, man.

@voretaq7 This is what I do to our dev team if I want to stall a meeting. "Yesterday I read that deleting all your comments from your code will make it go faster!" Oh the nerd rage

(In defense of Randall Munroe I too have filled a blackboard working on this problem and gotten nowhere. I feel better about that because he's WAY smarter than I am.)

@Joel is it an interpreted or compiled language?

Cold T

4:47 PM

lol @Joel deleting comments

@voretaq7 C#. I also made the claim that making the entire source file a one-liner makes it compile faster

because in interpreted languages there is an almost-unmeasurable increase in performance since the parser doesn't have to do scan-to-newlines

@Joel again, almost-unmeasurably it does because the (multiple) parsers don't have to scan-to-newline / skip whitespace / etc.

Cold T

yes probably faster by 1ns!