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1:00 PM
@ithedgehog: yup. Just checked in the interface to see.
I probably asked about it here when doing the conversion.
 
@Chopper3 didn't we just elect a couple new mods recently to reduce load? Should we have more?
 
Skillz. I could tell the type of NAS by the problems. Had the same issue
 
@IThedgehog: PITA, wasn't it?!
ARGH!
 
dunno dude
 
You elected new mods without asking me!
!!!
 
1:01 PM
Yeah, our two have been Cough Binned
 
The system was still good enough to be used for something but the upgrade path is nil.
 
@pauska I specifically mentioned you in the discussion...
 
We find we flood out the disk controller in there now, with any requests
 
For a school district deciding to cut staff and budget if the thing still boot and runs tossing was a last resort.
 
@Chopper3 I was only joking mate, but thanks for the namedropping
 
1:02 PM
@Chopper3 Shouldn't we just elect mailq as a mod and let him sort himself out - actually forget that I'm sure mailq deserves administrative access to the hardware running StackExchange
 
@ithedgehog that's one of the reasons we got a new NAS (was serving home directories, disk performance was creaking under load) but for streaming images to new installs of workstations it works fine.
 
@Chopper3: BTW I see you (and everyone else) won over vmware.. this means we can stay on enterprise, pretty great news considering our budget
 
I genuinely think my borderline LMGTFY was appropriate here... serverfault.com/questions/301602/…
@pauska yes, hard work but customer power worked
 
@BartSilverstrim We stopped using ours almost 18 months ago - when we lost disks in both. The CEO Sprung for an NX3000
 
@Chopper3 The large update at the top of the page you linked to suggests that it's no longer working...
 
1:10 PM
I need to build up another 5k rep
where are all the vmware/asa/catalyst questions!!
 
Any way to get an ASA's static nat rule to catch outbound traffic based on destination port instead of source ip/port?
 
yes indeed it is
but I can only help you with 8.3 and upwards
:(
or well, I have a rule with destination address(es), good enough?
 
I've only got 8.0(2); I'll just fudge it the best I can =}
 
oh dear
:P
 
If I wanted to be really obtuse I could throw ISA Server in the middle to sort things out; but I'm not much a fan of ISA...
 
1:22 PM
ISA Is the devils spawn
 
Meh; it does it's job most of the time..
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Q: NTFS or FAT32:Formatting Disk for PFSense

n0sw1tchp0rtIm a network guy, and know very little about system administration. I would like to install PFSense and Monowall to 2 CF Cards, but not sure how they should be formatted (NTFS or FAT32) and volume size. Both of the cards are 8 gigs. I was also wondering if it would be a problem using physdiskwr...

LOL; NTFS or FAT32 for PFSense or Monowall
 
@ChrisS one of the runners up from the last election got brought on board
 
@Iain Yeah; I saw all the fanfare...
 
whew SMTP service went down, but a reboot fixed the issue
 
1:33 PM
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Q: Check if an e-mail exists before sending

donaldIs it possible to check if an e-mail exists before sending? thanks

nice
 
LOL
 
you almost get the feeling that someone is trolling us
 
I'm checking my crystal ball
 
@pauska Needs a Migrate to the new site : SuperFault...
 
@pauska Sounds like a valid question to me, coming from someone who doesn't know the SMTP Protocol very well.
 
1:47 PM
@ChrisS The way it's worded is difficult to understand. But then I've been up almost all night too, so I'm not too coherent right now.
 
@Holocryptic I reworded it to better reflect the question as I understand it. Which is the question the only Answer addresses.
 
that makes more sense
voted to reopen
 
2:17 PM
Oof. I think @Holocryptic may have ended up getting more sleep than me. Got the "BGP went kaboom" wake-up call at 4 AM.
 
Good morning, folks.
 
Afternoon @ErikA
 
2:43 PM
@ShaneMadden Ouch. I don't know man. I went to bed at 230, woke up at 5 to check email, fell back asleep and up at 6.
 
@Holocryptic I think we're about even then ;)
 
haha
Ewwww, BE10d. FML
I have to do an Exchange restore from that
 
@Holocryptic heh, good luck.
BE10 is something like ca. 2006 or so?
 
@ErikA Yeah, I think so
:: looks for manual ::
User archived mail items, then went and deleted the pst on the same day, so no backup of the file. Have to go to the EDB backup.
blech
 
@Holocryptic Isn't Exchange set to not delete things for a certain minimum amount of time (ours is set to a whole month; but at least a week is pretty common)?
 
2:58 PM
@ChrisS I'm pretty sure when you archive it bypasses that. Since you're not really deleting it. But it pulls it out of the DB
That's why when you have DB space issues, you have the users archive because Exchange will reclaim that space. Unless I'm completely wrong.
But I'm pretty sure those aren't in the dumpster
 
Just checked with my Exchange server; all the items I just archived are in the Dumpster, and Recover Deleted Items shows them all.
 
oh, neat!
You probably just saved my bacon
I thought it acted more like a POP thing, where it downloads and purges from the DB
 
I thought I had that exact same thing happen to someone here a while back and I did the same thing then..
 
Let me call her and see if I can button this up then
 
When does Exchange trim the database?
Is it scheduled or done manually or does it depend on the version?
 
3:07 PM
(took me a minute to figure out how to Archive something when we've got a GPO disabling AutoArchiving..)
@BartSilverstrim define "trim"
 
Exchange runs a nightly online defrag once every night by default
 
@ChrisS: Make big database a smaller database. :-)
 
Nightly processes run at the same time
database doesn't actually shrink unless you run an offline defrag
 
So every night it tries to clean up the database.
 
Exchange (last I looked) will not shrink DBs automatically. It'll only deallocate space in the DB files (allowing their reuse, but the file doesn't shrink)
 
3:09 PM
Okay. I thought they changed that behavior with 2010 but apparently not.
They changed everything else... >.<
 
Maybe 2010 is different; I'm not terribly familiar with it yet.
But last I knew you had to run an offline defrag using eseutil to reclaim DB space.
 
I was about this --><-- close to having to learn Exchange 2010, but at the eleventh hour, we decided to migrate to Google Apps.
 
The online defrag will reclaim log space, assuming policy allows it (usually you've got policy that log files aren't "shrunk" until a backup is done).
@ErikA I'm learning it now. Not bad for someone who's familiar with previous versions, though the PS would be nasty for anyone new to PS. I'm not pleased that MS doesn't seem to care about making the software easy to administer. To configure something it might be in EMC, EMS, or ECP. And some things are in multiple locations.
 
Poking at more of our configuration options. Actually have 2007 due to incompatibility with our voicemail system.
(incompatible with 2010)
 
EMC = Exchange Mgmt Console (MMC); EMS = Ex Mgmt Shell (PowerShell); ECP = Ex Control Panel (Web Interface)
 
3:13 PM
@ChrisS Yah, I find PS to be generally frustrating. Quite useful, but frustrating.
 
ran the Exchange Management Console on my workstation, performance tools...and it brings up perfmon for my local system, not the exchange server. O_o
 
Crap. No go on the recover deleted items
 
@BartSilverstrim Surprise! Perfmon can be beaten into working with remote servers, but it's buggy as hell (still).
 
Looking to see if there is a simple interface for finding the size of our Exchange database, apparently it's not in the management console (or it's not obvious)
 
Ugh. My peons racked up a server wrong, with the rails upside down
discovered this 20 min before the client was to show up
 
3:18 PM
@BartSilverstrim I don't think there's a GUI way. I just usually went to the folder location at looked at the edb there
 
then the client showed up 15 minutes early
 
@wfaulk I thought that makes RDNS work better?
 
@Holocryptic Yeah; I don't think it's in the GUI in any version of Ex.
 
. . . STUPID CRON DAEMON!
I mean... Hi! :)
 
so... if I have a bunch of secondary addresses on a vlan interface, but also DHCP helpers, which IP subnet is used in the DHCP negotiation?
 
3:22 PM
@voretaq7 GIGO
 
...Windows...heavily GUI-fied...enterprise flagship product...can't get state and statistics of the mail server...through their management tool... O_O
 
@ChrisS who the hell doesn't have /usr/local/{bin,sbin} in their path?? Oh right, service users don't. I STILL BLAME CRON!
 
ummmmm, have you guys seen this gem yet?
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Q: Virtual Machines are not safe, yet Amazon uses them

alexy13I'm contemplating the fact about using a virtual machine to "sandbox" servers and programs on my computer. I heard that Virtual Machines can be hacked into,; a simple google search of "virtual machine security"; millions of results appear. I know that pretty much anything can be hacked but why ...

 
@BartSilverstrim It's enterprisey, what do you expect?
 
...Between that and my Exchange playing my brain just liquified a little.
 
3:26 PM
My favorite part of that is "Sure, Windows Server 2008 comes with AVG"
I need to get in touch with my MS rep. None of my 2008 or 2008R2 licenses came with that. I'm getting screwed.
 
@MarkM no you aren't. they're doing you a favor by not installing that shit on your machines :-D
 
@BartSilverstrim Yeah, Exchange management tools have always been pretty shitty
 
I'm just... sigh
 
@ChrisS Heh. Reminded me of Spolsky's tweet yesterday: twitter.com/#!/codinghorror/status/103028258060255232
rather Atwood, not Spolsky.
 
I wonder sometimes if I should have headed more for a programming career.
Not that it's exclusive. I'm gathering material to work on Python as a side learning project. See what i can do with it sort of thing.
 
3:44 PM
I've started a few programming projects. I have two problems: 1. I tend to be a better planner than implementer (so I get a bit ambitious, then wear down as the project wears on) 2. I've got pretty good notions of good functionality, and a deep drive to avoid half-assing things I work on; which tends to further extend projects.
 
which is why being a sysadmin is a good fit. Sysadmins follow the true principles of Agile Development.

1) Do it manually
2) Get fed up with doing it manually
3) Deploy hackish piece of shit to automate it
4) Iteratively fix hackish piece of shit ; scratch new itches in the same way.
5) ???
6) MAGNIFICENT SCRIPTS OF BEAUTY THAT AUTOMATE EVERYTHING!
 
That's true.
 
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Q: How do you back up your site?

Larry I am sure there are a lot of way to backup a site, but I am currently overwhelmed of info overflow from Google search. I have a site running on Amazon AWS (EC2, EBS) and would like to have easy and best way to back up my data.

At least they're thinking about backups
 
Why does he need to have it offsite from Amazon? What could possibly go wrong at Amazon?
 
@Holocryptic for the record you shampoo dry erase erasers. FAR more tedious than clapping them.
@KyleBrandt Jungle war over cocaine production results in his cluster getting napalm'd?
IT COULD HAPPEN!
 
3:57 PM
Huh? I just got an exavator badge for serverfault.com/questions/24821/…
"Edited first post that was inactive for 6 months."
 
@KyleBrandt I got the same badge yesterday for a question that I edited in June 2010.
 
@Voretaq7: I tend to hack together kludgey scripts that just do the job needed with the intention I can fix it up better later, but once it "works" I move on to the next brush fire and never get back to it :-/
@voretaq7 DRDB to a local machine, then back that up. :-)
 
Oh, looks like it might be a new one
 
@KyleBrandt That's what I figured.
 
@voretaq7 They can do that after they clap them. Nothing like demoralizing nonproductive work to break children's spirits
 
4:05 PM
@KyleBrandt you too huh?
 
sigh I need to find a good photography enthusiast.
 
@BartSilverstrim chemical or electrical photography?
 
Digital.
 
not my field
 
@BartSilverstrim Why would you want to photograph in the buff? You have strange taste, my friend.
 
4:06 PM
Got something showing up in a few images that convinced someone they're photographing ghosts.
 
@BartSilverstrim oh that I might be able to help with
 
A) I knew someone would equate buff with nude. B) most of the Internet is made up of buff photography.
 
also is my gravatar broken for everyone else?
 
@voretaq7: the image has a dark spot...shadow...showing up in some of them.
 
or do I reboot my office machine this friday?
 
4:07 PM
Don't know how that spot is getting there.
 
@BartSilverstrim same spot every time?
 
Not quite.
 
@BartSilverstrim You're no fun
 
So it wasn't a defect on the lens.
The flash was above where the finger could get it.
 
@voretaq7 Doesn't seem to be
 
4:09 PM
@Holocryptic ok, just me then. Stupid iMac.
 
@voretaq: your gravatar seems okay here too.
 
@BartSilverstrim Dust in the lens, but in a space that allows for some miniscule movement?
 
...I don't think so, but I'm not versed well enough on how plausible that would be.
It's from a Nikon D3000
I can pull that much info out of it.
 
Damanged CMOS sensor from taking pictures of the sun?
 
@ChrisS: other photos appear okay.
I'm seeing if I can get some samples posted...
 
4:13 PM
@ChrisS they're pretty good about that these days
 
Sorting now and copying to another machine to prep upload. There's 300 images and the majority are fine.
 
Anyone have a favorite AP?
 
@Jacob Fireballs
 
@Jacob local pickup in TN...
but neato
 
4:21 PM
My users recently discovered an extra user in the All Staff e-mail list, and asked me who "Jean Luc Picard" is.
 
@Jacob We'll have to paint it black...
 
My other test user is James T. Kirk; but he doesn't have an e-mail address.
 
@ChrisS facepalm?
 
I figured most people would get the joke; jokes on me apparently.
 
@ChrisS Clearly you are a nerd and must be asked inane questions
 
4:22 PM
@ChrisS Capt of Enterprise D and E
 
@Holocryptic If he was a nerd he would have used "Dorothy Catherine Fontana"
 
@Jacob Yes; I'm aware of where I came up with the names from....
 
@ChrisS Also, my father.
 
Anyone still want to look at those photos?
Worse, they were taken in a museum home. So there's a certain romance to the idea that it's "haunted."
 
sure
 
/me sulks that nobody gets his deep nerditry reference
 
DC Fontana? The episode writer?
Big name in ST lore.
The last images I threw in as a reference that the camera was taking fine photos without issues with the lens.
 
@BartSilverstrim Looks like the dog hand shadow puppet
 
@BartSilverstrim mmhm. Most people don't know "he" is actually a "she"
 
I thought it was something just being a shadow...
But it was inconsistent.
@voretaq7: she was responsible for some of the best episodes.
 
4:29 PM
@BartSilverstrim yeah, I don't think it's a shadow -- try shooting some test patterns with the camera in various light situations, I think there might be something to a damaged/defective CCD
@BartSilverstrim most of the best episodes
Always pissed me off that they never brought her in to write for the movies
 
@Voretaq7: that was the odd thing. The black...ooze...only shows up in these interior shots. There are...241 pictures. Some indoor, some outdoor...but only in a handful does this moving ooze appear.
 
(also that her plan for Encounter at Farpoint was messed up by wooden acting since the whole cast was trying to figure out who their characters were)
@BartSilverstrim black ooze eh... whistles X-Files theme
idunno - it's very strange because it's semi-translucent too
 
I wondered if there was some way to have a shadow from the flash off something in the room, but one of those shadows shows up with a reflection off glass in a portrait just above it. That gave me a bit of a head scratch as to how that happens.
It has a different shape in different pictures, so it's not a static defect in the lens or imaging system.
The last images I posted are normal.
The majority are normal.
 
Is the flash on the right-hand side of the camera?
 
But this appears in a handful of the items.
Middle, pops up from the camera.
 
4:33 PM
long lens or short?
 
From just a quick sampling, it looks like it happens in high reflective light. Ambient light you don't see it much if at all
 
iphoto tells me it's a nikon d3000 AF-S dx vr Zoom-nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G
ISO 400
Or 200.
 
@Holocryptic that's why I'm thinking flash effect -- Flash bouncing off something bright on the upper-right part of the scene & the lens shading the lower-left a bit
it would make more sense with a right-hand flash or a bounce flash pointed partly at the ceiling though
 
The one with the sofa and black outfit, that is a painting above it, nothing really reflective and it has that splortch on the floor too. I dismissed it as just shadow, but some of them I really can't figure out.
 
@BartSilverstrim which image number is that again?
 
4:37 PM
The thing looks JUST like there's some backlighting that's got something in the way.
But there really isn't any.
56, i think.
yup, 56.
 
yeah - and 070 screws up my theory because it's a straight shot at the wall
even if the lens was shading the flash is pointed right at the spot where the shadow is
 
Just uploaded a second one...compare 70 and 71.
So similar in shape.
 
@BartSilverstrim definitely a damaged CCD; high contrast conditions (usually low light; but not always) will bring those out. Tell her not to take pictures of the sun without a solar filter.
 
Will the damaged CCD still take "normal" photos most of the time?
 
@BartSilverstrim Yep, anytime the camera thinks it's a lower contrast photo. Try taking them in full daylight; bet it never shows up.
Try taking one in a dim room with the flash off, bet it shows up every time.
 
4:48 PM
Just added 86 and 87, similar photos but the one has a different masking of black and the other doesn't show it. Will that still fit the theory?
I'll definitely pass that on as a test.
And 105 just uploaded
110 was a plain shot too.
Here's a couple strange ones, 158 and 159.
Same basic shot, one after the other, but you can see the...ooze moved.
 
@BartSilverstrim Not seeing them in the Test Folder
 
I just want to make sure that the theory still holds up. It seems rather unusual to me.
@ChrisS: I reset the cache on my side. Showing up now?
 
That's a negative
 
If you clear your local cache?
 
Done; proxy too
 
4:55 PM
 
Meh; it's too consistent to be anything else...
If she wants to claim her camera is haunted I'd accept that long before the location being haunted...
Getting a 3x3 MIMO 802.11n mPCI card for my AP, UPS is delivering on Friday! So exciting. =}
 
So the consensus would be a damaged CCD?
And testing would be to take pictures in a dim room without the flash versus a well lit room?
 
Yeah; that should exacerbate the problem.
 
Okay, I'll pass that along.
Certainly does seem strange, though!
 
it's definitely strange -- Doing a series of tests at different illuminations will make it show up though. If you have a gray card that's the best thing to shoot.
also, I got to quote The Stones on Meta. My life is now complete.
 
5:05 PM
Thanks guys. I took the photos off the test site (although I may repost more as that's the site I'm doing my "how to edit your site" demonstrations for the teachers...) to reset for more work later.
 
@ChrisS @ChrisS so you sent the users to picard.ytmnd.com ?
2
 
Of course he didn't. He's a sysadmin with the highest standards of professionalism.
He set Group Policy to make that everyone's homepage.
 
Homepage schmomepage, that's what Active Desktop was invented for
 
@TessellatingHeckler no, Active Desktop was invented for consuming all system resources and making machines unusable :-D
being able to Picard-Bomb the company is a pleasant side effect.
 
@voretaq7: check my comment on your answer
(I've already stared at the config and compared his to mine) :P
but its not exactly a standard config.. I have no idea why he have all those weird params
suspecting copy paste from some kind of guide.. wordpress etc
 
5:19 PM
@pauska d'oh. ::deletes:: see what happens without syntax highlighting?
 
yarr
 
hmmmm
 
location @rewrite {
    rewrite ^/(.*)$ /index.php/$1;
}
I'm guessing wordpress yeah
im guessing that he didnt remove the default config
(cause that one will use index.html as index)
 
oh I'm pretty sure it's wordpress or some other blog
they all do that index funkiness
 
server_name = _
thats weird.. what does it do? I know that you can use server_name = ""
 
5:22 PM
@pauska I was just about to start typing an answer pointing at that rewrite, but I'll leave it to you ;)
just change to rewrite ^(.*)$ /index.php$1; imo
 
@ShaneMadden please do, I have no idea how to do rewrites
I posted an answer that solves the welcome to nginx stuff
 
user image
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^What I feel like about now.
 
Okay, I need to get off helpdesk. I'm going to cut myself
 
@pauska Hmm, no change with my answer. Strange.
 
or my answer
hrm
 
5:39 PM
I guess the other thing to try is strip the .html and .htm off of the index directive and see if it ignores them..
 
Oh, and the above photograph was from carlidavidson.photoshelter.com Gotta give props to the artist.
 
@Holocryptic you work with George? chroniclesofgeorge.com/tickets1.htm
 
cannot... contain... snark...
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Q: How do I monitor who's logged in?

djhaskin987We in our department are implementing a new admin policy: everyone in a department which we support will receive admin access to their computers. We need to know (while we are performing this "pilot program" policy on this department) who logged in, and when they did, on any machine. So how could...

closing that browser tab now. never to be seen again.
 
5:57 PM
@TessellatingHeckler Fan. Tastic.
 
@ShaneMadden NO GOOD CAN COME OF THIS.
 
@ShaneMadden Ha, I answered that and was like "holy crap, I have three upvotes in 30 seconds"
Then I log into chat and see it posted here. haha
 
@ShaneMadden He's young, and sometimes you need things to blow up in your face before you know not to do it.
 
@Holocryptic Doesn't sound like it's his policy.
At least it didn't to me.
Sometimes in academia, things like admin rights are way different than in a corporation
None of our staff have admin rights where I am, but all of our faculty do.
 
@MarkM Yeah, I know. Still don't like it. I'm dealing with it at the new gig.
 
5:59 PM
I think that's a pretty common situation for most universities
 

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