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@BenPilbrow Where is your god now? verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/…
 
 
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8:55 AM
Morning all. Typical spring morning dilemma: Watch the squirrels jumping about in the trees outside; or do some work?
 
9:29 AM
hi
 
10:09 AM
Morning @SmallClanger Squirrels
Morning All
My first Hyper-V Is running on my PS4000
 
hi
 
Hello people of the sun
 
10:26 AM
Last night I had two pints of newcastle brown, four of guinness and quite a large curry - my arse is barking like an attack dog
 
10:37 AM
@Choppr3 - thanks for sharing. It's good to see that I'm not the only person who practices the ancient art of "several pints of beer and a curry" therapy.
 
:)
 
I forgot my wallet today. Thank god we have cashless tills in the work canteen
 
losing or leaving my wallet is like my main nightmare, couldn't get in the house, office etc
 
10:53 AM
i know, it doesn't disrupt my day as badly as it would you by the sound of it but i'm a bit annoyed with myself.
 
I really don't like not having my wallet when I should
 
its the same for watches too. I don't feel properly dressed if I don't have my watch on at work.
 
I just can't wear a watch
 
haven't worn a watch for many years
 
guess i'm in a minority, but i've always liked them
 
11:29 AM
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Q: Correct user names when tracking /etc/ in git repository and committing as root

cweiskeWe use git to track changes in /etc/ on our servers. Administrators work as root when changing files in /etc/, and thus their commits have author root <root@machinename> This is not very satisfying since you cannot see which admin actually did the change. What can we do to get the real...

 
@Chopper3 That sounds like a good night.
 
I think it's the first time I see someone mention anything about sudo being harmful
 
not bad
 
@coredump This is a good reason for using a configuration management system. That way the admins can make all their changes with their user accounts, and the CMS would enforce the correct permissions when it pushes the changes down.
 
posted on April 07, 2011 by Matt Simmons

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11:33 AM
@ScottPack yeah I forgot to mention that on the answer, but my point is, why he doesn't trust sudo? Can you remember a motive not to?
 
Not since I've gotten into the racket.
 
that sounded crazy enough to me. Let's see if he answers my comment.
 
Of course he trusts them. If you don't trust your admin...then they SHOULDN'T BE AN ADMIN! The question isn't one of trust, it's one of accountability.
The allowing remote root logins is a whole different problem :)
I've seen some places go so far as to disable root logins entirely. Issuing a 'sudo -i' or similar was intended as the only way to get a root shell.
 
I do that, tbh
 
Do you use network auth for your user accounts?
 
11:40 AM
puppet control ssh auth keys
and passwords
 
So no :)
 
nope
:)
 
Disabling root logins entirely and using network auth requires an extra control in the event that the system loses connection to your authentication source.
Probably just a local shared account with sudo privs.
With a business process that nobody uses it, and it's limited to your DC (or whatever) and the password is in the safe, in a locked room, behind a rabid ferret :)
 
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Q: Open Source Talent Management System?

PaulLooking to see if anyone knows of or is using an open source/free Talent Management System? Looking for something like Teleo (http://www.taleo.com/). Thanks in advance.

wtf
 
I wouldn't mind open sourcing my talent. I would love to get the community to patch my bugs.
 
12:03 PM
Sometimes I want to add comments to people and say "GREAT! So accept the answer please"
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12:25 PM
@Iain that editor toolkit is still very random - it appeared once in about 10 refreshes. I'm abandoning that and working on my own now
 
12:39 PM
words words words...so what the hell is "taleo"? What does it do?
Why can't businesses just have a simple, "Hey, do you want to X? That's what our product does!" then explain the features. Their page looks like a bunch of blah blah.
hmm....some kind of HR software?
I've never heard of "onboarding."
Is that like waterboarding?
 
1:02 PM
I don't know if its possible to disable ipv4 from the linux kernel without disabling important network stuff that will cripple ipv6...
 
So, @coredump, I'm still waiting to see why that guy thinks sudo is the next best thing to an Elder Evil. I appreciate the shoutout, though.
 
What's the sudo controversy?
 
@BenPilbrow I filed a bug on github for it
 
@BartSilverstrim There's a guy who is complaining that since the admins all use the root account for any kind of maintenance work, there's no way to know who made changes. Oh, and he thinks sudo is harmful.
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Q: Correct user names when tracking /etc/ in git repository and committing as root

cweiskeWe use git to track changes in /etc/ on our servers. Administrators work as root when changing files in /etc/, and thus their commits have author root <root@machinename> This is not very satisfying since you cannot see which admin actually did the change. What can we do to get the real...

 
@BartSilverstrim guy said he considers it harmfull
 
1:08 PM
@Iain bitbucket.org/benp/stack-exchange-editing-tools/overview if you're interested. Still very beta
 
@BenPilbrow I thought it would show you a preview of the changes that it would make.
Did I make that up?
 
@ScottPack it does in question view
 
Hm. Would I need to restart chrome for your script to kick in?
 
Hey, any Cisco guys in here feel like giving me a hand for a second?
(Please don't beat me for using ASDM instead of the CLI)
 
@BenPilbrow is it meant to work in edit mode yet ?
 
1:20 PM
@ChrisS was my comment on point in that question?
oh, and hi people
 
My dear god everytime I read the guy talking about sudo being harmful I try to find why I can't think on anything
today is being a weird day. Now there is someone trying to completely disable ipv4...
 
@coredump I have only ever seen that kind of attitude from people who don't understand it
 
@Iain the autocorrect button should work, but doesn't give you a diff like question view does
 
But IPv6 is, like, a whole two better!
I can't wait for IPv8!
 
@BenPilbrow Your script doesn't even seem to be loading on my system. Any notion how, on chrome, to go about debugging that?
 
1:26 PM
@coredump and one guy who said it was insecure because it had some security related bug fixes
 
@coredump I don't use sudo much myself, either, but I've never considered it a risk.
 
@Iain What doesn't?
 
@ScottPack exactly
 
@Iain - Hrm, I hope that's not his logic. "Sudo has been patched, so I'll just give everyone the root password"... Same as "I've heard these locks are possible to pick, so I've decided to leave my door open."
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@jscott I am rolling out ipv4.1
Hmm
Has anyone heard of/used kexec before? Someone just posted a comment about that on the ipv4 question and I looked it up, it's pretty cool.
 
1:30 PM
bah. Just reboot during an outage window :)
 
So I was told we have VPN access to one of my sites. This is great, because I was told that it wasn't working previously. I ask for the credentials, and I'm given the public IP of the TS. facepalm
My fucking kingdom for properly firewalled site access
And I forgot to change out my nicotine patch this morning. It's going to be a long day.
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@Holocryptic hang in there
 
d'_'b
 
@coredump Yeah, I had a look at that. A terrifying concept. Put me in mind of this:
(at around 18 seconds in)
 
1:47 PM
what's this about sudo now?
someone's using the "It's a setuid binary so it's insecure" or "adding additional software inherently compromises security" arguments?
 
It's dangerous for people who don't know what it is, apparently, or have active imaginations.
 
@BartSilverstrim My sudo configuration is semi-dangerous (sudoers in LDAP - secured with SSL obviously - and most of the users are super-admis with ALL=ALL permissions). But it's still better than "Give everyone the root password, then scramble to change it when you have to fire someone"
 
@voretaq7 We don't know what the reason is yet, only that he finds it dangerous.
 
@ScottPack sudo is dangerous.
root access is inherently dangerous :-)
 
Sorry, not dangerous. "harmful"
 
1:56 PM
root access can be harmful. But after all if you give a monkey a coconut filled with nitroglycerin...
 
Well, in that case computers are harmful. :) The point is, he finds having everyone log in as root directly is fine, but he won't use sudo because it's 'harmful'. That's where our confusion lies.
 
@ScottPack computers ARE harmful! Drop a 6U box on your foot some time!
 
@voretaq7 1U box hurt plenty enough.
 
also at least he's using keys and not passing the root password around like a $2 whore during fleet week. Otherwise I would have had to open the rage gates on him
@jscott steel-toes. takes a good 6U behemoth to crush 'em.
though one time I dropped a 1U on my sneakers and it hit on a corner, and that was definitely OUCH.
 
Never try to stick your finger on a server
it hurts
 
2:08 PM
@Holocryptic I think he wants to know, if he creates a file backed iSCSI LUN, formats it in Windows and puts files on it, can the NAS device share the files from that LUN as a shared folder. While the general idea is technically possible, I really doubt that particular unit can do stuff like that. I didn't dig into the docs though.
 
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Q: Does anyone know of a 19" or larger monitor that runs over PoE?

bshacklettMy employer is looking at installing workstations in multiple rooms that don't have any power available and we're looking for a monitor that will run over PoE. Does anyone know of one?

SU?
 
@coredump, ever hit a knuckle on a high speed fan? that'll take a layer of skin right off
 
Yeah, although it's a good question.
 
@DanBig you know that little metal you had to remove to install expansion cards on older computers? I almost lost a finger once removing those ones.
 
I don't think PoE has enough grunt to drive an LCD, though.
 
2:11 PM
It's a bit of a rough question really. Electric things take power... get electricity into the room.
 
@smallClanger: multiple network cables. Or REEALY long extension cables would fix it.
 
@coredump, yes, you had to bend it back and forth to get it out sometimes, a quick slip was all it took
 
Or just drop the dime needed to actually run power to the room.
 
@SmallClanger PoE can do 30w, plenty for most LCD monitors... But what would be left to power the computer??
 
@ChrisS hrm. I was getting kind of confused on what he was asking. But I just wanted to check to make sure what I said was correct
 
2:12 PM
@BartSilverstrim or just some hamsters, and a wheel to generate power
 
@Holocryptic I didn't see anything wrong. =)
 
@Coredump: is that what you call interns?
 
@BartSilverstrim that's what I call Jr Sysadmins
 
@Coredump: is that what you call interns?
 
lol
 
2:13 PM
@ChrisS cool. Thanks
 
@ChrisS. actually, my thinking was along the lines of a screen that takes a single PoE line that brings in power and KVM.
 
@SmallClanger Sounds interesting.... He was looking at a thin client with integrated 19" screen, but it draws 65w over a proprietary 60w injector. He wanted to stick with standard PoE equipment, but I don't think that's going to happen given the ~35w limitation.
 
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@jscott. That cable wins.
 
2:18 PM
That was an annoying time in computing... When manufacturers would "refurbish" defective equipment (using a can of air) and send it back out...
 
"why do you consider sudo harmful" - because it allows people to gain root access without thinking. writing your normal user password to gain root privileges is - in my eyes - something that makes it too easy. When getting root via ssh login or sudo, you have to write your special root ssh key passwort or the machine's root password - one that's used rarely.
ssh agent anyone?
 
@ChrisS eeePC laptops? How much wattage do they pull - you could probably hack something together to run them off of PoE.
@coredump seriously. Or passwordless keys, or making the key passphrase the same as your login password, or just memorizing two passphrases...
 
@jscott: I'm pretty sure linking to that site makes you a terrorist, or something. That's some evil stuff.
 
Also with sudo you can chain in PAM modules. I worked with a guy once who didn't trust himself with sudo so he had a PAM module that asked you math questions like google's mail goggles thing.
 
@voretaq7 The 20" EeeTop pulls 65w, which you could probably rig up something to work, but it wouldn't be PoE standard...
 
2:23 PM
(it was POSITIVELY INFURIATING, but it did make you stop and think about something before you could run the command you just typed)
@ChrisS I was referring to the crappy little laptops :)
 
@voretaq7 They never help, though. Clumsy fools will be clumsy fools regardless of how many speedbumps are in their way.
 
@voretaq7 Ah, well, he's looking for something with a 19" screen, so downsizing to 12" probably ain't gonna work.
 
How is the english form for that saying 'each one has one opinion' or 'each one is an individual entitled to it's own opinion'?
 
@SmallClanger Yeah, most of my Oops Momentsâ„¢ are typos that I didn't realize were there.
 
@coredump "Everyone is entitled to their opinion. (Even if it's wrong.)"
 
2:26 PM
@coredump 'to each their own' is the shortest way of implying 'each person is entitled to their own opinion, no matter how wrong they might be'
 
@coredump Everyone's entitled to their own opinion
I've found that most peoples' opinion is wrong
 
(That's the great thing about English -- even our standard phrases aren't standard!)
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Q: Redundant power supply

alciI have been hit by my inexperience with power supplies... I bought a Ablecom (SuperMicro) PWS-801-1R redundant power supply. But this is in fact a module, that is not redundant in itself, and must be plugged into ... don't know what ??? So my question is : what is needed to assemble a redundant p...

I answered, but really I just wanted a double-vodka and some painkillers.
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I wish the Review Edits screen had a comment section for when you Reject edits. I just rejected 3 in a row (first time with so many); they're all by new users who haven't quite grasped the Q&A thing yet. It'd be nice to give a quick explanation as to why the edit was rejected and how they should comment on the Q or A, or post their own A, or whatever..
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@ChrisS I would find this useful
 
@voretaq7 case in point
 
2:38 PM
@ChrisS Off to meta you go
 
damnit.
 
@voretaq7 3 time's a charm?
 
@ChrisS INSUFFICIENT VODKA :'(
 
@ChrisS I've rejected several edits where new users have added their own comments at the bottom of an answer/question. Was that the case with these three?
 
@ErikA One of them was "This is the correct answer"
Another was editing out a duplicate, which wasn't actually a duplicate... same software can be used two different ways, so it's listed in both.
 
2:41 PM
That's me flagging stuff
So, about tags, how do you feel about tags that include versions? I don't like them but I want to hear opinions on why they exist. Like apache2.2 tag.
 
The third one was that a linked page in an answer has updated information; I could have let that one slide, but it really didn't change the value of the answer knowing that there was more recent information available.
 
@coredump Apache2.2 exists because some people still run Apache1.3 (with substantial differences)
 
Yep. Tags with versions are fine, but should be synonymed to the parent (without version) most of the time..
 
@voretaq7 hrmmmmf
@ChrisS that makes more sense
 
Can someone explain this response to me? "At this point, from the filter, there's not much you can do. But, you can try blocking HTTPS facebook at your DNS level."
 
2:45 PM
uhh wtf?
 
Can I block access to sites through my DNS server?
 
sure
configure a new zone
 
No, you can block access to hostnames through DNS.
 
set a wildcard to 127.0.0.1
 
But you can't block HTTPS access through DNS.... excepting the above..
 
2:46 PM
Set it all to a server that redirects them here for mocking.
Bwa ha ha!
 
haha
Oh. I see what you're doing.
 
@BartSilverstrim - Time to Lay a phishing trap:
Welcome to Facebook
Username:
Password:
 
So tomorrow is FRIDAY FRIDAY FRIDAY
 
Ooh...rickroll them into a friday video.
The remix I liked by Cynical Mass was removed due to "copyright" crap. :-/
Took awhile to find a mirror.
 
She wants to do a duet with Justin Bieber
worlds collapse
 
2:53 PM
Every 13 year old bubblehead wants to sing with Bieber.
That's nothing new.
Give it another six months and it'll be some other bubblegum media sensation.
 
I love bubblegum pop
 
@Zypher worked like a charm. Thanks!
 
blocking at DNS it's a nift trick
 
yea, and really screws with devs when they go to facebook and get thier defautl project :)
 
I use that to block gooogle talk
rm -rf /
omg
 
2:59 PM
Bear in mind that anyone with local admin could possibly bypass it by editing their hosts file (or changing their DNS)
 
jesus take the wheel!
@SmallClanger not if I block dns queries to outside.
 
@smallclanger: Block outgoing DNS at the firewall?
Whoa!
skype supports slash commands?
 
@BartSilverstrim yes, but if you type something it doesn't know it does a help thing instead of just sending the damn command that you are using to make a joke
like ... it doesn't support /blame
 
True. Hosts file might still work, though. Admittedly tricky with a sparwling site like facebook, but...
 
grr
 
3:03 PM
I tried /smackdown and it spilled a bunch of admin help.
 
lol
Is TomTom called Ignacio now?
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A: Moving Swap Location - Redhat 5

coredumpLinux uses partitions as swap space, unless you are using something like swapd. If that's the case, just configure it to create the files on other place, but I suspect that this is not the case and there's something else occupying the space. To find really what is using your space, use df to see...

 
@coredump hahahahaha
 
@coredump Thank you - I didn't have the patience to answer that without using a wood-chipper.
 
FLISOL is approaching, I must train my patience to strange questions.
AHAHAHAHAHA
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Q: What are some common reasons mysql stops responding?

BlankmanI have to admin a mysql server, and was hoping people could give a few of the top reasons a mysql server might stop responding? Vague question I know, but I'm looking to read up on preventative measures as a learning experience before I get some problems of my own. What are common reasons a mys...

Points to @ErikA for inclusing Rick Astley as possible causes
 
I disagree with including Rick Astley as a reason for mysql to stop responding.
If anything, Rick Astley would keep it from ever giving up.
 
3:16 PM
He certainly wouldn't let it down.
 
@ScottPack that would be monit
 
@SmallClanger Exactly!
@coredump taw chi
 
@ScottPack you're welcome
poor guy that one on the NAT question... If he based his software on IP uniqueness on the internet he is screwed
Hope he used python
 
@coredump my thoughts exactly
 
I am thinking in learning Go after finishing the Haskell book
 
3:24 PM
@coredump It's a nice game. I hope you have better luck finding players.
 
@ScottPack @coredump it's a hard-ass game. and computers suck as opponents.
 
@ScottPack methinks he's talking about the programming language?
 
Hmm...another tsunami warning in Japan I see.
 
@BartSilverstrim yup. Sucks indeed.
 
I was thinking about the Go language yes :P
 
3:25 PM
After reading a Haskell book? I think you'd be making a zen garden and playing go on a quiet hilltop!
 
@voretaq7 As long as you're playing with someone that's comparable skill, and isn't too competitive, it's a great relaxing way to spend an afternoon.
 
@ScottPack Dear God, I honestly LOL'd at your comment.
 
@jscott You're welcome :)
 
SO tempted to change Rick Astley to "Random acts of terrorism" linking to the youtube video.
 
As a matter of principle, that's the closest I'll ever get to RickRolling someone.
 
3:27 PM
but I'll be a good boy.
 
@voretaq7 hehe, you have my blessing to do that.
:)
 
I didn't even read "Rick Astley" in the list, until I hit @Packs comment. Then it was too late.
 
Having been blessed.
the change. it is made.
Additional changes are made - to provide a smokescreen.
(though the solar storm and tsunami links are real - and the storm one is informative)
 
@voretaq7 hah, well done
I feel bad for the other guy that answered, though. His answer is probably more correct than mine. :)
 
Hah.
 
3:46 PM
I like how you've increased obfuscation there, @voretaq7.
 
@ScottPack Deceive! Inveigle! Obfuscate!
 
.... That NAT question facepalm
 
What NAT question?
 
@voretaq7 I saw that episode a week or so ago
 
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Q: How common is NAT within companies (one public ip address)?

Arne EvertssonHow common is for companies to let many users share only one public ip address? I hope the answer is "not very common" since I'm developing software that depends on the ip number being pretty much unique.

this sorry episode of the daily fail that pervades IT
hmmm
 
4:02 PM
Unrelated, but sigh -- plz send teh cracked DLLz
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Q: No more than 2 RDC users at one time?

Joshua DanceMaybe a newbie question but we are students and trying to learn fast. We have a server set up. It is a VM in VirtualBox. We share the physical machine with a few other groups but nothing is production so performance is fine. However, we have Active Directory set up with 4 accounts. All are...

 
yah i flagged it and voted to close
 
@RobertMoir, i saw that this morning. My first thought was, "wat?"
 
The NAT question? Yeah. That's pretty shocking -- actually its a pretty reasonable question, if you don't know then you don't know, right? It's just that something so fundemental is the first question you ask before you do anything, not when you're most of the way through doing the work as I get the impression that guy is
 
Dear Everyone In My Company,
My email was less than 500 words. I assure you all of them are important.
READ.
EVERY.
WORD.

No Love,
-Me
 
@voretaq7: tl;dr
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4:10 PM
@SmallClanger DIAF. Wanna Borrow my lighter? :)
 
@voretaq7 who are you and why are you sending me crap I didn't ask for?
 
@Holocryptic My name is Spammy McSpamsalot, and I'm here to bring you the wonders of Vi@gra!
 
Anyone have much experience with Nokia phones. I freaking can't get Mail4Exchange updated for the life of me
 
@voretaq7 oooooh, my wifes been getting on me about that. Well, not "on" me because, well, you know....
 
did you see that post earlier full of swearing etc?
 
4:13 PM
Someone asked you what the IP address of the console port on a switch was again?
**DUCKS**
 
@Chopper3 heh, just looked it up. Good stuff.
 
@Chopper3 which post?
 
@voretaq7 What was the old quote? "Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. Set fire to him and he'll be warm from the rest of his life."
 
nokia smartphones phones suck hard enough to pull a bowling ball through a very small straw
 
@RobertMoir Today, it seems 10x worse than even that...
 
4:15 PM
and pretty much their whole software development team should feel free to die in a fire at their earliest conveniance
 
@RobertMoir They've gone from suck to blow!
 
indeed
if someone told me they had made a product that didn't suck, I'd look for it in the vacuum cleaner aisle
 
I mean the phone I'm trying to update is on the supported hardware list, yet I can't find a download for it. The OVI store won't let me download it...
 
not that i'm bitter about a massive bug we found in their exchange connector today or anything.
 
@ErikA dumb bastard left quite a bread-trail
 
4:18 PM
I remember having that that issue, ircmaxell, but not how it was solved
 
@Holocryptic [TIMPANI SOLO] MegaMaid
 
their downloads seems very hit and miss
 
wait a minutes, what bread trail? What's going on?
I'm missing stuff.
Point me to the dumb bastard!
 
@voretaq7 You're on it, my good man!
 
I'm making a list of people to be fired into the sun when the Great Geek Awakening happens and we all rule the world
 
4:19 PM
@Holocryptic Did you know: There is a Spaceballs ANIMATED MINISERIES!
(it sucks compared to the movie though)
 
@voretaq7 shut the hell up!!!
I'm going to have to find it
 
@Holocryptic NO LIE! I bought Spaceballs on iTunes a while back b/c I gave my DVD to someone, and when you search for spaceballs the animated series comes up too
 
I'm getting hungry. Healthy fish and salad with water or less healthy but more satisfying Chinese takeout and beer?
 
@RobertMoir CAT AND BOOZE
 
i like the way you think
 
4:21 PM
@RobertMoir Beer. It's national beer day (in the US at least). :)
 
WTF! The user just left for lunch without telling anyone. So an hour of wasted time now since I need to wait for her to enter her password
 
in fact, sod it, that's what i'm doing. Back in a while folks
beer it is!
 
have one for me
 
And me
and a smoke while you're at it
 
@ErikA wait... really?
 
4:22 PM
I think I will eat something
brb[
 
how come nobody tells me this shit??
 
@voretaq7 Sorry, I forgot.
I told everyone else, but forgot you I guess.
 
So where's this profanity laced post everyone's talking about?
 
@Holocryptic it's been deleted, so you'd need >10k to see it.
 
@Holocryptic how long off the fags ?
 
4:27 PM
@Iain I've always been straight. What are you talking about?
:)
5 weeks-ish
 
great going
 
Starting to get a slight headache, which will be monstrous by (work) quitting time
@ErikA Damn, only slightly less than 8k to go....
@voretaq7 that animated series looks just horrible enough to waste my time with. Must aquire.
 
@Holocryptic it wasn't that big of a deal, just some joe schmoe complaining (in colorful language) at @Chopper3's answer to a question about a cisco switch config. @Chopper3 basically told the guy that he should go find a CCNA to do the config becuase the OP wouldn't have a prayer of doing it properly himself.
 
@Holocryptic I never got on with the patches - what helped me the most was the nicotinell lozenges
 
Heh. Truth hurts
 
4:31 PM
Boooo - sysadm1138 deleted my answer to the mysql question.
I guess I deserved it. And @voretaq7 too.
 
@Iain The patches have been great for me. I especially loved when I first started, as your dreams when you go to sleep are quite vivid. Trippy.
 
@ErikA quite right too it was an appalling answer
 
@ErikA You deleted your mysql answer?
 
@Holocryptic yeah - one of the reasons I didn't get on with them
 
Looks like we both figured it out at the same time
 
4:32 PM
@Iain It goes away after about a week or so
 
Too bad. I was on the fast track to a Nice Comment badge
 
@Iain It was a perfectly LOVELY answer detailing so many of the possible scenarios that could result in a DB outage
 
@Iain appalling? There was a bit of accurate information in there.
@ScottPack no, sysadm1138 deleted it.
 
It figures that he would.
Now that he's gone all corporate.
 
Ah man...I wanted to see the fun post.
I miss all the good stuff. Unless she's performing on a Russian kid's show.
 
4:34 PM
This might amuse some of you. Today, I went up the BT Tower. Photo: flickr.com/photos/tom_twinhelix/5597410891/in/photostream/…
 
I gotta say, I believe that is my first-ever post to be deleted.
 
it was too bofh
 
@BartSilverstrim I think I still have it open at the office. If I remember I'll screen grab and post it for you when I get back to the office.
 
@ScottPack: Coolbeans!
Thanks!
 
@BartSilverstrim you looking for my post that got deleted?
 
4:37 PM
Yeah, I think.
Something apparently happened while I was doing other things here.
 
@BartSilverstrim which child actor performs on a Russian kids show that so grabs your attention in what (some might say) is an unhealthy manner?
 
She wasn't a child actor.
She's some Russian pop star named Angina.
 
oh, is this that one...busty....girl?
 
@Holo: yup.
 
4:38 PM
ok, that's fine then. Ogle on.
 
@BartSilverstrim the "random acts of terrorism" was put in by @voretaq7, along with a rickroll youtube link.
@BartSilverstrim "random acts of terrorism" was originally "Rick Astley" in my original post.
 
That doesn't look so bad.
 
I was just trying to add a bit of humor to a pretty poor question. :)
 
Here I thought I missed something like "someone should shove a cat5 up your colon" or something as an answer.
 
Speaking of Rick Astley...
 
4:42 PM
@BartSilverstrim cat5 or 5 cats?
 
@Voretaq: is that what you call interns?
 
@BartSilverstrim CeilingCat is my intern!
 
Those eyes...they watch you...oh, those weren't her eyes. Nevermind.
Wish I spoke russian. I have that tune stuck in my head and don't know what she's saying.
It's like having an alien schizophrenic in my mind.
 
Any Cisco guys in here mind giving me a hand for a second?
 
@AdamRobinson have you already posted a question on SF?
 
4:54 PM
What's with the onslaught of Cisco questions lately? (I'm Cisco-Dangerous, not an expert)
 
@ChrisS agreed. I know a fair amount about networking, but only enough Cisco syntax to get myself in trouble. :)
 
They released their quarterly failure and CEO delivered an almost-crying excuse
must be something related
 
Cisco not doing well, eh?
Remember when Apple was supposed to fail?
I think it was Michael Dell who said something about the best thing to do is sell the company and give the money back to shareholders.
 
not doing well for 3 quarters, motorolla survived more than this
 
Sorry about the delay; yeah, I've just posted a question outlining what I'm dealing with
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Q: Error Processing Payload on ASA5505 IPSec VPN

Adam RobinsonI'm attempting to set up a new Cisco ASA5505, and the last step is getting the IPSec VPN working. I've followed the wizard within ADSM (I'm running ASA version 8.3 and ASDM version 6.3), but I have so far been unsuccessful at getting any clients to connect to the VPN. So far, I've tried connecti...

 
4:58 PM
 
@coredump I'm disappointed that hist list of 5 things wrong with the company didn't include: 1. A zillion different products/SKUs, most of which all do the same thing +/- a single obscure feature. 2. Worst documentation orginization in the industry. 3. Treating customers like money cows waiting to be milked. 4. The only tech website worse than HP's. 5. Confusing and obscure marketing messages; lack of "products" to back "solutions", and inability to properly characterize what products they do sell
 
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