Groom Lake

egid

12:00 AM

i'm not even sure his "piston engines are [not] developed to be turbo/supercharged" comment makes sense

Danny Beckett

12:36 AM

← 1 message moved from The Hangar

egid

1:11 AM

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Feeds

1:30 AM

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Danny Beckett

room topic changed to Testing Zone: You're probably looking for The Hangar; this is a separate room where our bot gets tested. You can lookup the weather for a 3-letter IATA or 4-letter ICAO airport by typing this into either room !!weather JFK (Currently only the raw !!metar KJFK command shows QC flags - e.g. needs maintenance, auto, etc) (no tags)

Anonymous

1:46 AM

@DannyBeckett THANK YOU VERY MUCH

Anonymous

NOW I'M LIKE ALMOST THE ONLY PLEB IN THIS ROOM

Anonymous

RUDE AS HELL

Danny Beckett

lol

I just copied the owner list from the main room

sorry :p

Anonymous

now i'm also a pleb in the main room, stellar

Danny Beckett

lol you've always been a pleb in the main room :p

I fixed the Unicode btw, did you notice @PatoSáinz

!!metar scl

Anonymous

1:48 AM

yep i read

Danny Beckett

!!weather scl

no bot?

I guess it's because I renamed the room

Anonymous

rip

Danny Beckett

lmao

how's your bot?

!!summon 12036

!!info

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett I awoke on Fri, 10 Jan 2014 01:50:39 GMT (that's about 11 seconds ago), learned 1 commands

Danny Beckett

!!summon 12036

!!tell Danny weather

Otto the Autopilot

1:51 AM

@Danny You must specify a 3-letter IATA or 4-letter ICAO airport code - e.g. !!weather LPL or !!weather KJFK

Danny Beckett

!!tell Danny weather LPL

Otto the Autopilot

@Danny LPL/EGGP: Liverpool John Lennon Airport • Observed: 32 mins ago • Wind: 210°/SSW @ 4kts • Visibility: 6.21mi/9.99km • Clouds: Scattered @ 2,800ft • Temperature: 5.0°C/41°F • Dewpoint: 3.0°C/37°F • Pressure: 29.82" Hg/1,010mb • Conditions: VFR

Danny Beckett

!!tell Pato weather SCL

Otto the Autopilot

@Pato SCL/SCEL: Comodoro Arturo Merino Benítez International Airport • Observed: 52 mins ago • Wind: 200°/SSW @ 10kts • Visibility: 6.21mi/9.99km • Clouds: Ceiling & visibility ok • Temperature: 23.0°C/73°F • Dewpoint: 3.0°C/37°F • Pressure: 29.97" Hg/1,015mb • Conditions: VFR

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett did you fix its us-centrism?

Anonymous

1:53 AM

!!weather SCTB

Danny Beckett

it's on the list

Otto the Autopilot

@PatoSáinz No METAR data could be found within the last 24 hours for SCTB! Check you typed the correct 3-letter IATA or 4-letter ICAO airport code.

Anonymous

NOPE

Anonymous

F*CK THIS

Danny Beckett

/* To do:

 * QC flags
 * gusts
 * !!listcommands
 * block so-chatbot-php-helper
 * use NOAA instead of FAA's ADDS for METARs... NOAA actually cares about all aerodromes
 * parent room
 * !!help
 * our_airport -> airport
 * split >500
 * search by city/name
 * missing

*/

Steve V.

1:53 AM

Aviation is US-centric.

4

Danny Beckett

^ this

Anonymous

@DannyBeckett lol bot is going to start as soon as I stop being lazy

Danny Beckett

fair enough :)

Danny Beckett

4:25 AM

!!weather lpl

!!WEATHER JFK

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett LPL/EGGP: Liverpool John Lennon Airport • Observed: 6 mins ago • Wind: 220°/SW @ 6kts • Visibility: 6.21mi/9.99km • Clouds: Ceiling & visibility ok • Temperature: 5.0°C/41°F • Dewpoint: 2.0°C/36°F • Pressure: 29.82" Hg/1,010mb • Conditions: VFR

Danny Beckett

!!WEATHER MIa

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett JFK/KJFK: John F Kennedy International Airport • Observed: 35 mins ago • Wind: 90°/E @ 4kts • Visibility: 10.0mi/16.09km • Clouds: Broken @ 7,500ft; Broken @ 25,000ft • Temperature: -3.9°C/25°F • Dewpoint: -10.0°C/14°F • Pressure: 30.63" Hg/1,037mb • Conditions: VFR

@DannyBeckett MIA/KMIA: Miami International Airport • Observed: 33 mins ago • Wind: 110°/ESE @ 8kts • Visibility: 10.0mi/16.09km • Clouds: Few @ 1,800ft; Scattered @ 3,500ft; Scattered @ 6,000ft; Broken @ 22,000ft • Temperature: 24.4°C/76°F • Dewpoint: 22.2°C/72°F • Pressure: 30.18" Hg/1,022mb • Conditions: VFR

Danny Beckett

4:46 AM

!!weather mia

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett MIA/KMIA: Miami International Airport • Observed: 54 mins ago • Wind: 110°/ESE @ 8kts • Visibility: 10.0mi/16.09km • Clouds: Few @ 1,800ft; Scattered @ 3,500ft; Scattered @ 6,000ft; Broken @ 22,000ft • Temperature: 24.4°C/76°F • Dewpoint: 22.2°C/72°F • Pressure: 30.18" Hg/1,022mb • Conditions: VFR

Danny Beckett

!!weather lpl

!!weather jfk

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett LPL/EGGP: Liverpool John Lennon Airport • Observed: 27 mins ago • Wind: 220°/SW @ 6kts • Visibility: 6.21mi/9.99km • Clouds: Ceiling & visibility ok • Temperature: 5.0°C/41°F • Dewpoint: 2.0°C/36°F • Pressure: 29.82" Hg/1,010mb • Conditions: VFR

@DannyBeckett JFK/KJFK: John F Kennedy International Airport • Observed: 56 mins ago • Wind: 90°/E @ 4kts • Visibility: 10.0mi/16.09km • Clouds: Broken @ 7,500ft; Broken @ 25,000ft • Temperature: -3.9°C/25°F • Dewpoint: -10.0°C/14°F • Pressure: 30.63" Hg/1,037mb • Conditions: VFR

Danny Beckett

!!weather sfo

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett SFO/KSFO: San Francisco International Airport • Observed: 54 mins ago • Wind: 280°/W @ 14kts • Visibility: 10.0mi/16.09km • Clouds: Few @ 15,000ft; Scattered @ 20,000ft • Temperature: 12.2°C/54°F • Dewpoint: 6.7°C/44°F • Pressure: 30.25" Hg/1,024mb • Conditions: VFR

Danny Beckett

4:52 AM

!!weather ams

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett AMS/EHAM: Amsterdam Airport Schiphol • Observed: 28 mins ago • Wind: 250°/WSW @ 10kts • Visibility: 6.21mi/9.99km • Clouds: Few @ 2,500ft • Temperature: 6.0°C/43°F • Dewpoint: 3.0°C/37°F • Pressure: 29.88" Hg/1,012mb • Conditions: VFR

Danny Beckett

!!weather msp

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett MSP/KMSP: Minneapolis-St Paul International/Wold-Chamberlain Airport • Observed: 8 mins ago • Wind: 150°/SSE @ 9kts • Visibility: 4.0mi/6.44km • Clouds: Overcast @ 1,000ft • Temperature: -8.9°C/16°F • Dewpoint: -10.6°C/13°F • Pressure: 29.93" Hg/1,013mb • Conditions: MVFR

Danny Beckett

5:13 AM

@voretaq7 Remember I had some 404's with the METAR field descriptions?

Having the same issue on TAFs

Don't suppose you can work your magic again?

aviationweather.gov/adds/dataserver/tafs/TafsXMLOutput.php

actually I found it :) aviationweather.gov/adds/dataserver/tafs/…

they should really fix their 404's :p

voretaq7

:P

government operation son...

What do y'all think about renaming this room Groom Lake? :)

2

(Home of my absolute most favoritest runway ever, even with all the yellow Xs)

Danny Beckett

lol

voretaq7

...zoom out and see how long it is :-)

Steve V.

Not obscure enough. R-4808

voretaq7

heh

that would also be acceptable :)

Danny Beckett

5:25 AM

btw if you do decide to rename the room, the URL needs to be changed for the bot in the config file

found that out earlier when the bot disappeared :p

voretaq7

leave the name part of the URL off (chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/12308) -- it should figure it out on its own

assuming a redirect doesn't make the bot cry

Danny Beckett

worth a try, lets see....

Steve V.

Actually...that reminds me of an interesting question i could submit to the site.

Danny Beckett

!!info

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett I awoke on Fri, 10 Jan 2014 05:28:04 GMT (that's about 22 seconds ago), learned 1 commands

Danny Beckett

5:28 AM

!!live

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett I'm not dead! Honest!

voretaq7

@SteveV. "If I cross into R-4808 will I be shot down by F-16s or flying saucers?" :-)

Danny Beckett

@voretaq7 that seemed to work

Steve V.

Not quite.

(:

Danny Beckett

!!weather mia

Otto the Autopilot

5:33 AM

@DannyBeckett MIA/KMIA: Miami International Airport • Observed: 40 mins ago • Wind: 110°/ESE @ 9kts • Visibility: 8.0mi/12.87km • Clouds: Scattered @ 2,000ft; Broken @ 3,000ft; Broken @ 6,500ft • Temperature: 24.4°C/76°F • Dewpoint: 21.7°C/71°F • Pressure: 30.17" Hg/1,022mb • Conditions: MVFR

Danny Beckett

6:06 AM

!!taf mia

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Danny Beckett

!!listcomands

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: listcommands

Danny Beckett

!!listcommands

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett help, listen, eval, coffee, refresh, forget, info, listcommands, tell, afk, ban, unban, convert, define, far, findcommand, google, inhistory, learn, no, live, die, meme, metar, nudge, parse, spec, stat, stats, summon, unsummon, timer, todo, undo, user, weather, welcome, wiki, youtube (page 0/0)

Steve V.

6:10 AM

!!coffee

Danny Beckett

!!info

!!taf mia

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett MIA/KMIA: KMIA 100601Z 1006/1106 12009KT P6SM VCSH FEW020 BKN070 OVC250 FM101400 12009KT P6SM SCT025 BKN050

Danny Beckett

!!metar mia

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett MIA/KMIA: METAR KMIA 100553Z 12009KT 10SM FEW020 BKN070 OVC250 24/21 A3016 RMK AO2 SLP213 T02390211 10250 20239 56012

Steve V.

@DannyBeckett Forgive me if someone else has already said this, or if you've considered and rejected it, but the TAF is harder to read if there's no newline at the FM101400 block.

If it breaks markdown, though, it's not a deal-breaker.

Danny Beckett

6:12 AM

@voretaq7 Is this what you were just saying?

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett yup

@SteveV. it does break markdown, but I'd be OK losing the link to have the TAF come out "normal looking"

Danny Beckett

one alternative is to add a bullet, like on !!weather?

!!weather lpl

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett LPL/EGGP: Liverpool John Lennon Airport • Observed: 24 mins ago • Wind: 200°/SSW @ 5kts • Visibility: 6.21mi/9.99km • Clouds: Ceiling & visibility ok • Temperature: 6.0°C/43°F • Dewpoint: 3.0°C/37°F • Pressure: 29.82" Hg/1,010mb • Conditions: VFR

voretaq7

that might work too, give it a try

Danny Beckett

e.g. the • where the new line should be

Steve V.

6:14 AM

Yeah, give that a try.

Danny Beckett

ok will do that and hit you guys back in a minute

voretaq7

I'm gonna be biased because when I read a TAF I scan it like it's columns (I generally ignore the times 'cuz weather forecasts are never right about WHEN something's gonna happen - I just want to know what they expect will happen so I can expect the least convenient outcome for me)

Bret Copeland

Yeah TAF needs to be multi-line more than it needs to have a link.

Danny Beckett

ok well if that's the case, let's just do that

@BretCopeland @Bret it'd be awesome if we could have both :(

Bret Copeland

not my fault

Danny Beckett

6:19 AM

yeah I know

Bret Copeland

the only "formatting"
which works for new lines
is to have monospace

Danny Beckett

that would probably be better anyway

for TAFs and METARs

right?

Steve V.

Very yes.

Danny Beckett

I presume you just did that with 4 spaces?

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett yeah

Bret Copeland

6:21 AM

@DannyBeckett yep, has to be on every single line. If any lines are not indented like that it doesn't do anything.

Danny Beckett

ok cool

voretaq7

the 4 spaces on every line may put some longer TAFs over 500 characters though :)

Bret Copeland

@voretaq7 500 limit doesn't apply

Danny Beckett

I have a new cloud code here: NSC

what's that?

voretaq7

...yeah that's true b/c it's got newlines :)

Steve V.

6:22 AM

@voretaq7 Regarding what forecasters expect to happen, the Area Forecast Discussion is my absolute favorite weather product for that. I use that sucker way more than I use the TAF.

Danny Beckett

sky_cover Sky coverage. Values are: NSC|SKC|CLR|SKT|BKN|FEW|OVC|OVCX

voretaq7

@SteveV. I use the NWS forecaster discussions (the TAF discussions are useful sometimes too, but more often than not they're empty around here :P)

Danny Beckett

and SKT too

oh and OVCX

Steve V.

No Such Code. Means the forecaster got drunk.

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett "No Significant Clouds"

Danny Beckett

6:23 AM

thx

voretaq7

i.e. "We're probably gonna have clouds. But we don't think it's gonna be a low overcast or anything. Idunno, I'm just a dog with a weather radar. Where's my milkbone?!"

Danny Beckett

lol

voretaq7

Incidentally I need to punch a meteorologist

Steve V.

are we thinking of the same thing? this is what i'm thinking of: forecast.weather.gov/…

voretaq7

the warm weather (and rain) keeps moving closer and closer to the weekend

@SteveV. yup

Danny Beckett

6:24 AM

how about SKT & OVCX?

voretaq7

there's a "TAF Discussion" available on ADDS which is just the "Aviation" chunk of that -- i.e. "Generally Useless"

Steve V.

Never knew that.

Good pilot always learning etc etc.

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett those two I don't know....

Steve V.

Neither do I, and I'm a meteorology professor.

Danny Beckett

hmmm..

they're specific to TAFs

Steve V.

6:27 AM

To AC 00-45G!

Danny Beckett

METAR doesn't have them

voretaq7

and they don't show up in the TAF format template

Bret Copeland

NSC "Never Seen these Clouds"

voretaq7

so whoever is using them should be beaten with the TAF format template until they repent for their sin

Danny Beckett

METAR: SKC|CLR|CAVOK|FEW|SCT|BKN|OVC|OVX
TAF: NSC|SKC|CLR|SKT|BKN|FEW|OVC|OVCX

the 2nd line is from aviationweather.gov/adds/dataserver/tafs/… (row 27)

voretaq7

6:29 AM

well I can tell you by inference (SKT = SCT ; OVCX = OVX)

but I don't see them in 00-45 either

Danny Beckett

OVCX could also be OVX

though I think you're right

Overcast & obscured, perhaps?

voretaq7

I'm pretty sure OVCX is Overcast/Obscured same as OVX (for use when you're expecting dense low-level fog)

SKT...has to be scattered

Steve V.

Yeah, it's even in the right place in the order.

Danny Beckett

lmao, I was thinking that

voretaq7

and thinking about it thats how I think I usually see it

Steve V.

6:31 AM

Between CLR and BKN

Danny Beckett

who the hell spelled scattered wrong I wonder

ok I'll go for that!

cheers :)

Steve V.

I also would guess OVCX is obscured, but i've never, ever seen it used.

voretaq7

....actually no, it's SCT in ISP's TAF

Danny Beckett

@SteveV. OVX is obscured

Steve V.

hurm

voretaq7

6:32 AM

@SteveV. know anywhere offhand that's likely to have fog in the morning? :)

's the easiest way I can think of to check

Steve V.

muskegon maybe...freezing fog

kmkg

Actually

KLAN

!!taf KLAN

Otto the Autopilot

@SteveV. LAN/KLAN: KLAN 100541Z 1006/1106 16009KT 3SM -SN BR OVC025 FM100700 17007KT 3SM BR OVC015 FM100900 16008KT 2SM -FZDZ BR OVC005 FM101300 18006KT 1SM BR OVC003 FM102300 16010KT 1 1/2SM -RA BR OVC003 FM110200 15013KT 1/2SM RA FG OVC003

Steve V.

no

voretaq7

bastards - reporting a proper ceiling

muskegon is the same

(and it's freezing drizzle today, not freezing fog - but what the hell do you care, the plane is still gonna be an ice brick :)

Steve V.

Bite me, that was a guess.

(:

voretaq7

6:34 AM

it's Alaska. It's gonna be Freezing SOMETHING :P

Steve V.

You're in Alaska?

voretaq7

My (insane) cousin and his (insane) new husband just got back from their Alaskan honeymoon

(Hunting the wild aurora borealis)

they are clearly insane.

Steve V.

aw balls, we're supposed to be able to see that today in michigan

!!metar KAZO

Otto the Autopilot

@SteveV. AZO/KAZO: METAR KAZO 100553Z AUTO 16003KT 4SM -SN BR SCT011 OVC021 M05/M07 A3019 RMK AO2 SNB27 SLP241 P0000 60000 T10501067 11050 21072 58025

Steve V.

And so of course it's overcast.

voretaq7

6:36 AM

"-SN BR .....RMK A02" Is the precipitation discriminator having a bad day? :)

Danny Beckett

so how do I know where to split these TAFs?

in the raw text

take

KJFK 100520Z 1006/1112 13005KT P6SM SCT150 BKN250 FM100700 15005KT P6SM SCT035 OVC070 FM101400 16006KT P6SM SCT015 BKN025 TEMPO 1015/1019 5SM -RA OVC015 FM101900 18007KT 6SM BR SCT015 BKN025 FM110600 16004KT 3SM -RA BR BKN007 OVC015 FM110900 14006KT 1SM -RA BR OVC004

as an example

voretaq7

@DannyBeckett they should come with newlines -- if not split at FM, BECMG, and TEMPO

Danny Beckett

nah they don't unfortunately, here's the source: aviationweather.gov/adds/dataserver_current/…

after or before? :)

KJFK 100520Z 1006/1112 13005KT P6SM SCT150 BKN250
FM100700 15005KT P6SM SCT035 OVC070
FM101400 16006KT P6SM SCT015 BKN025
TEMPO 1015/1019 5SM -RA OVC015
FM101900 18007KT 6SM BR SCT015 BKN025
FM110600 16004KT 3SM -RA BR BKN007 OVC015
FM110900 14006KT 1SM -RA BR OVC004

like that?

voretaq7

like that :)

Danny Beckett

cheers ears! ;)

Bret Copeland

6:40 AM

I found a TAF with fog, and VV, but no OVCX

Danny Beckett

I think whoever wrote the docs was drunk

and meant SCT and OVX

I added them anyway

Bret Copeland

!!taf pasc

Otto the Autopilot

@BretCopeland SCC/PASC: PASC 100539Z 1006/1106 25024KT 1/2SM BLSN FG VV009 TEMPO 1006/1010 1/4SM +SN BLSN FG FM101800 25017KT 1SM BLSN BR BKN015

Danny Beckett

NSC:	'No significant',
SKC:	'Clear',
CLR:	'Clear',
CAVOK:	'Ceiling & visibility ok',
FEW:	'Few',
SCT:	'Scattered',
SKT:	'Scattered',
BKN:	'Broken',
OVC:	'Overcast',
OVX:	'Obscured',
OVCX:	'Overcast/obscured'

that's our dictionary

voretaq7

Today's LOLsome government document quote brought to you by the TAF template document:

> * There is no aeronautical requirement to report surface wind speeds of 200 km/h (100 kt) or more; however, provision has been made for reporting wind speeds up to 399 km/h (199 kt) for non-aeronautical purposes, as necessary.

Danny Beckett

6:41 AM

lol!

voretaq7

"If the airport is in the middle of a freakin' tornado chances are the pilots really don't give a damn about the weather"

Danny Beckett

brb

Bret Copeland

What we don't realize is Danny has encountered a code BRB in a TAF, and is waiting for us to tell him what the hell that means.

Steve V.

Mist rain mist

Danny Beckett

@BretCopeland "big rain balls"? :p

Steve V.

6:51 AM

Big rain blobs

Danny Beckett

hail, essentially

voretaq7

@BretCopeland The forecaster snuck off to the pub

Danny Beckett

!!info

!!live

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett I'm not dead! Honest!

Danny Beckett

!!taf mia

Otto the Autopilot

6:55 AM

@DannyBeckett MIA/KMIA: KMIA 100601Z 1006/1106 12009KT P6SM VCSH FEW020 BKN070 OVC250 FM101400 12009KT P6SM SCT025 BKN050

Danny Beckett

hmm..

oh I know what I did wrong

!!info

!!live

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett I'm not dead! Honest!

Danny Beckett

!!taf mia

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett MIA/KMIA: KMIA 100601Z 1006/1106 12009KT P6SM VCSH FEW020 BKN070 OVC250 FM101400 12009KT P6SM SCT025 BKN050

Danny Beckett

:(

!!info

!!live

!!taf mia

Otto the Autopilot

7:00 AM

@DannyBeckett KMIA 100601Z 1006/1106 12009KT P6SM VCSH FEW020 BKN070 OVC250 FM101400 12009KT P6SM SCT025 BKN050

Danny Beckett

!!info

!!live

!!taf mia

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett I'm not dead! Honest!

KMIA 100601Z 1006/1106 12009KT P6SM VCSH FEW020 BKN070 OVC250 FM101400 12009KT P6SM SCT025 BKN050

Danny Beckett

!!taf jfk

Otto the Autopilot

KJFK 100520Z 1006/1112 13005KT P6SM SCT150 BKN250 FM100700 15005KT P6SM SCT035 OVC070 FM101400 16006KT P6SM SCT015 BKN025
TEMPO 1015/1019 5SM -RA OVC015 FM101900 18007KT 6SM BR SCT015 BKN025 FM110600 16004KT 3SM -RA BR BKN007 OVC015 FM110900 14006KT 1SM -RA BR OVC004

Danny Beckett

@voretaq7 @BretCopeland

voretaq7

7:03 AM

looks a little mangled :)

it broke correctly at the TEMPO, but not at the FMs

Danny Beckett

oh yeah :S

Bret Copeland

yeah, what he said.

Danny Beckett

oh, I put TM instead of FM

voretaq7

that'd do it :)

Danny Beckett

lol - recompiling

!!info

!!metar jfk

Otto the Autopilot

7:04 AM

JFK/KJFK: METAR KJFK 100651Z 04004KT 10SM BKN027 OVC100 M02/M08 A3058 RMK AO2 SLP354 T10221078

Danny Beckett

!!taf jfk

Otto the Autopilot

KJFK 100704Z 1007/1112 15005KT P6SM SCT025 OVC070
FM101400 16006KT P6SM SCT015 BKN025
TEMPO 1015/1019 5SM -RA OVC015
FM101900 18007KT 6SM BR SCT015 BKN025
FM110600 16004KT 3SM -RA BR BKN007 OVC015
FM110900 14006KT 1SM -RA BR OVC004

Steve V.

Woohoo!

Danny Beckett

I'll make !!metar use monospace too

(I also changed directreply to send like was suggested by a couple of people)

@BretCopeland I just figured out, the \n bypasses the 500 char limit so you can post a block of code

I guess the dev assumed you wouldn't want markdown to be formatted if you're pasting code

but didn't check for Line.BeginsWith(' ')

Bret Copeland

@DannyBeckett eh, four spaces starting the line is normal markdown syntax for code.

There's no reason it couldn't still go through the render engine.

Danny Beckett

7:14 AM

you said if a message contains \n, it goes down a different code path

n/m... just speculating

Bret Copeland

@DannyBeckett just for rendering. Basically what happens is if multiLine is true, then it checks whether every line starts with four spaces. If so, it wraps the whole thing in <pre> tags. If not, it wraps it all in a <div>

@voretaq7 +1 on Groom Lake.

I guess if you're going to build the fastest plane in the world, you might as well build a five mile long runway.

Danny Beckett

@BretCopeland ah I see, and no further Markdown formatting is done to it after it gets wrapped in <div> or <pre>

@DannyBeckett yeah

gotcha

@BretCopeland :)

7:42 AM

room topic changed to Groom Lake: You're probably looking for The Hangar; this is a separate room where our bot gets tested. You can lookup the weather for a 3-letter IATA or 4-letter ICAO airport by typing this into either room !!weather JFK (Currently only the raw !!metar KJFK command shows QC flags - e.g. needs maintenance, auto, etc) (no tags)

@voretaq7 ;)

!!metar ams

Otto the Autopilot

AMS/EHAM: METAR EHAM 100725Z 24012KT 9999 FEW018 06/04 Q1013 NOSIG

Danny Beckett

!!metar ams

Otto the Autopilot

METAR EHAM 100725Z 24012KT 9999 FEW018 06/04 Q1013 NOSIG

Danny Beckett

!!taf

Otto the Autopilot

@DannyBeckett You must specify a 3-letter IATA or 4-letter ICAO airport code - e.g. !!taf LPL or !!taf KJFK

Danny Beckett

7:51 AM

!!taf ams

Otto the Autopilot

TAF EHAM 100454Z 1006/1112 25012KT 9999 FEW025
BECMG 1016/1019 21010KT PROB30 1020/1106 BKN006
BECMG 1104/1107 SCT006 BKN012 BKN040
TEMPO 1107/1111 6000 RADZ BKN006
BECMG 1110/1112 32018KT SCT015 BKN020

Danny Beckett

room topic changed to Groom Lake: You're probably looking for The Hangar; this is a separate room where our bot gets tested. You can try these commands - !!weather !!metar !!taf - followed by an airport code (no tags)

roe

@DannyBeckett if you grab the TAFs from NOAA you get them nice and indented

Danny Beckett

yeah, that's on my to do list actually - apparently they have better international coverage too

6 hours ago, by Otto the Autopilot

@PatoSáinz No METAR data could be found within the last 24 hours for SCTB! Check you typed the correct 3-letter IATA or 4-letter ICAO airport code.

roe

might be, never had them not have an airport I was looking at

Danny Beckett

7:56 AM

it's in Chile, apparently

thanks for the suggestion anyway :)

roe

!!metar ESSL

Otto the Autopilot

METAR ESSL 100750Z 33013KT 310V010 9999 OVC012 00/M01 Q0991 R29/29//95

roe

!!metar EDDF

Otto the Autopilot

METAR EDDF 100750Z 20006KT 9999 FEW027 SCT200 04/02 Q1018 NOSIG

roe

those work anyway. :)

Danny Beckett

8:01 AM

that's good! (I think it has good coverage of Europe, just not Chile)

where are those places? let's see...

!!weather essl

roe

@DannyBeckett: although, when I suggested it to Pato Sainz he said he didn't want any of "my american BS", so I guess he wont be using it anyway... ;)

Danny Beckett

!!weather eddf

Otto the Autopilot

LPI/ESSL: Linköping City Airport • Observed: 12 mins ago • Wind: 330°/NNW @ 13kts • Visibility: 6.21mi/9.99km • Clouds: Overcast @ 1,200ft • Temperature: 0.0°C/32°F • Dewpoint: -1.0°C/30°F • Pressure: 29.26" Hg/991mb • Conditions: MVFR

FRA/EDDF: Frankfurt am Main International Airport • Observed: 12 mins ago • Wind: 200°/SSW @ 6kts • Visibility: 6.21mi/9.99km • Clouds: Few @ 2,700ft; Scattered @ 20,000ft • Temperature: 4.0°C/39°F • Dewpoint: 2.0°C/36°F • Pressure: 30.06" Hg/1,018mb • Conditions: VFR

roe

essl is linköping, eddf is frankfurt

Danny Beckett

ah cool

we had another German in chat earlier, Falk

roe

8:03 AM

es prefix is sweden, ed is germany (et for military), eh is holland, lf is france, lo is austria.. that's all I know

Danny Beckett

@roe lol! yeah he tells me about 5 times/day that JavaScript is scum, or similar (the language the bot runs)

eg for the UK I guess, since:

!!weather lpl

Otto the Autopilot

LPL/EGGP: Liverpool John Lennon Airport • Observed: 15 mins ago • Wind: 170°/S @ 7kts • Visibility: 6.21mi/9.99km • Clouds: Few @ 3,000ft • Temperature: 5.0°C/41°F • Dewpoint: 3.0°C/37°F • Pressure: 29.82" Hg/1,010mb • Conditions: VFR

roe

yeah, might be

!!weather lowi

Otto the Autopilot

INN/LOWI: Innsbruck Airport • Observed: 15 mins ago • Wind: 0°/N @ 1kts • Visibility: 6.21mi/9.99km • Clouds: Few @ 1,500ft; Scattered @ 2,500ft; Broken @ 4,000ft • Temperature: 4.0°C/39°F • Dewpoint: 3.0°C/37°F • Pressure: 30.12" Hg/1,020mb • Conditions: VFR

Danny Beckett

0 degrees wind!

roe

8:06 AM

:)

if (wind_direction == 0) wind_direction = 360; ;)

Danny Beckett

yeah lol

that's what I was thinking

ah you studied in Gothenburg?

I was there for a couple of days with work

it's the only place I've been in Sweden, unfortunately

roe

I did yeah

Was born there too ;)

Danny Beckett

I've got to go anyway @roe! Good to speak to you

roe

I don't no. But searching on linkedin, apparently and old university buddy of mine works there. :)

Cheers.

@DannyBeckett by the way, wouldn't George be a more appropriate name for the bot...? :) Or is that just my american BS talking?

Danny Beckett

@roe ah ok, you got the name of the company... deleted it before I couldn't so it doesn't appear on Google ;)

that's cool - small world, hey?

I worked for the Oslo office

roe

8:16 AM

Indeed, you work for them?

ah, I see

Danny Beckett

met the guys in Gothenburg

yeah, left Norway now

too damn cold :p

roe

;)

Danny Beckett

@roe why George?

roe

I thought that was the nick name for the autopilot, but maybe it's not as global as I thought

Danny Beckett

ah really, I don't know, I'm not a pilot

Otto is from this:

!!wiki Airplane! movie

Otto the Autopilot

8:18 AM

Airplane

An airplane or aeroplane (informally plane) is a powered fixed-wing aircraft that is propelled forward by thrust from a jet engine or propeller. Airplanes come in a variety of sizes, shapes, and wing configurations. The broad spectrum of uses for airplanes includes recreation, transportation of goods and people, military, and research. Most airplanes are flown by a pilot on board the aircraft, but some are designed to be remotely or computer-controlled. Etymology and usage First attested in English in the late 19th century (prior to the first sustained powered flight), the word airpl...

Danny Beckett

nooo

Otto the Autopilot

Airplane!

Airplane! (titled Flying High! in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Japan and the Philippines) is a 1980 American satirical comedy film directed and written by David Zucker, Jim Abrahams, and Jerry Zucker and released by Paramount Pictures. It stars Robert Hays and Julie Hagerty and features Leslie Nielsen, Robert Stack, Lloyd Bridges, Peter Graves, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and Lorna Patterson. The film is a parody of the disaster film genre, particularly the 1957 Paramount film Zero Hour!, from which it borrows the plot and the central characters, as well as many elements from Airport ...

Danny Beckett

he's from that ^

roe

Oh, ok, never seen it. Sorry :)

Danny Beckett

"Otto" :p

It's a spoof... quite funny

I watched it the other day because everyone else in chat had seen it

roe

8:19 AM

fly.historicwings.com/2012/08/george-the-autopilot

> Over the years, Bellinger and many other pilots would take to calling the Sperry Autopilot system “George” — a colloquialism for the seemingly magical, invisible copilot that had joined them in the cockpit of their aircraft. To this day, the term “George” is used unofficially to represent the autopilot system.

Danny Beckett

lol! that's interesting :p

yeah Otto is a slightly different breed of autopilot

roe

I see :)

Danny Beckett

the kind that is a big inflatable doll that sits in the co-pilots seat, lol

anyways, I've got to go, but it was good chatting!

roe

I guess I need to watch that movie...

Danny Beckett

you do lol

seeya ;)

roe

8:24 AM

Cheers

DeltaLima

9:21 AM

!taf eham

Danny Beckett

@DeltaLima you missed another ! ;)

!!taf eham

Otto the Autopilot

TAF EHAM 100454Z 1006/1112 25012KT 9999 FEW025
BECMG 1016/1019 21010KT PROB30 1020/1106 BKN006
BECMG 1104/1107 SCT006 BKN012 BKN040
TEMPO 1107/1111 6000 RADZ BKN006
BECMG 1110/1112 32018KT SCT015 BKN020

DeltaLima

10:02 AM

!!taf eham

Otto the Autopilot

TAF EHAM 100454Z 1006/1112 25012KT 9999 FEW025
BECMG 1016/1019 21010KT PROB30 1020/1106 BKN006
BECMG 1104/1107 SCT006 BKN012 BKN040
TEMPO 1107/1111 6000 RADZ BKN006
BECMG 1110/1112 32018KT SCT015 BKN020

DeltaLima

!!metar eham

Otto the Autopilot

METAR EHAM 100955Z 19010KT 9999 FEW022 06/05 Q1014 NOSIG

DeltaLima

@DannyBeckett Thanks, now it works

!!metar ebbr

Otto the Autopilot

METAR EBBR 100950Z 22010KT 9999 FEW010 06/04 Q1018 NOSIG

roe

10:19 AM

Bookmarklets for METARs in Firefox if anyones interested (don't know if they'll work in any other browsers): javascript:window.location='http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/observations/metar/‌stations/'+'%s.txt'.toUpperCase();

and TAFs: javascript:window.location='http://weather.noaa.gov/pub/data/forecasts/taf/stati‌ons/'+'%s.txt'.toUpperCase();

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