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1:08 AM

@nitsua60 It is deleted, and hidden, but you can still see the revision history.

Here’s what I can see.

Someone Evil and I have been through this before, I don’t believe the mods have any indication that a post looks like this to everyone else.

nitsua60

1:48 AM

@ThomasMarkov Thank you. That's what I was hoping I remembered correctly.

@ThomasMarkov That's why lots of mods I know maintain sock accounts--to be able to see what users at various privilege levels have before them. Might be time I ponied up and went for it.

@AncientSwordRage Sorry--I must have been misreading today's post's history.

AncientSwordRage

2:04 AM

@nitsua60 no worries

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Q: Does the All-Purpose Tool improve the save DC of the Artillerist artificer's "Explosive Cannon" detonation ability?

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Thomas Markov

1:42 PM

@nitsua60 I had an answer in comments flag declined without comment, I’m assuming that was an accident as the comment is a direct answer to two of the questions asked in the question body.

AncientSwordRage

1:59 PM

@ThomasMarkov comment flags can't be responded to with a comment to the flagger AFAIK

Secondly, on SFF I'd only remove them when they're no longer needed, or if the comments have gotten too numerous/drifted off topic

But RPG is a different beast

Thomas Markov

@AncientSwordRage learn something new everyday

AncientSwordRage

2:20 PM

Q: Allow moderators to respond to comment flags

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nitsua60

2:52 PM

@ThomasMarkov Not at all an accident.

Thomas Markov

3:21 PM

@nitsua60 are we revisiting/reinterpreting our answer in comments policy? Part of the question was “can I do this”, and the comment was “no you can’t”.

AncientSwordRage

@ThomasMarkov that seems like a NLN flag to me

Thomas Markov

@AncientSwordRage I imagine if that were the case Nits would have deleted the comment. He seems pretty firm on keeping it there.

Someone_Evil

3:49 PM

Misconceptions are always slightly awkward to maneuver in terms of A vs. C. I landed on it not being worth removing from the question and answer (since it's handled well already). I might suggest including a bit more reasoning in the flag for cases like this, to help us see the logic (just saying AiC means we have to do the full parsing ourselves which is a lot more effort)

nitsua60

3:59 PM

Nope, but I think you might need to slow it down a bit, frankly. (New) OP posts a question. Commenter says "I think you misunderstand some of it, [related link], I suggest you edit." OP says "yeah, good point, I'll edit when I'm back to my computer." You flag saying "that's an answer in comments." Declined (reasoning to follow in a sec). You flag again, saying "no, really, it's an answer in comments." OP had not yet been back to the site.
All that ^^ happened in something like 16 hours.

So here's my reasoning. (I was the original decliner, the second flag sat a while as we discussed it among moderators.) I see two paths: the misconception stands in the Q and gets addressed in an A. Or the misconception is edited out of the Q and the "core" question gets an A. Either is fine for the long-term, IMO. So there's no harm-to-site to worry about, it's just users/examples/takeaways to worry about.
OP has been helped by the comment and says they'll be back. Okay, let's let that play out for more than a couple of hours.

Thomas Markov

4:20 PM

What do you mean by “cool your jets”? Have I taken an aggressive posture here? I saw a comment that was (to me) obviously an answer to the question, so I flagged it. When it was declined, I assumed it was a mistake (as those happen from time to time), since it seemed (again, to me) to be obviously an answer to the question.

I then booped you in here to check in for a different perspective in case it wasn’t a mistake and I was missing some of the forest for the trees.

nitsua60

Just the pace/timing. Sorry--I didn't mean to indicate I was sensing any aggression.

Thomas Markov

Gotcha. Gotta watch them idioms.

nitsua60

Lemme try to retroactively word better...

Give OP a day to live their life and get back to it before flagging. Leave a comment saying "OP, an answer's now come in that actually addresses the misconception, so I think you should leave it in rather than editing it out, feel free to poke me or any other user in [chat] if you want to discuss." Flag with the custom text saying "this might evolve, but in the long run this comment is, substantially, the answer that came in so should go once OP's had a chance to come back."

I think those ^^ sorts of actions recognize the timeline and prioritize OP's experience in a way that standard flag-->decline-->reflag with text "really, it's an answer in comments" all in less than a day don't. Which, for me, was the forest in this case.

AncientSwordRage

4:38 PM

@nitsua60 that's a good idea, leaving that comment

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nitsua60

8:38 PM

@Someone_Evil that anydice question has my brain in a knot: is it just me, or does test case #2 conflict with "rule" 4?

~~(And if we go by the test case's logic, then I think the answer is exactly Ilmari's code from the Q you linked.)~~ nvm.

Someone_Evil

8:50 PM

I haven't looked at the q closely enough to say whether it's a dupe or not, but I smelled "haven't I answered this already?"

nitsua60

I'd say that, depending on what the question actually is, maybe you have =)

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nitsua60

11:59 PM

@Akixkisu I think your wall of stone answer is the only sane one. "How large does it have to be to not allow a saving throw?" "Big enough that you can walk out without rolling a die!"

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