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nitsua60

12:13 AM

@Ben hey-ooh!

Ben

How've you been?

nitsua60

Finished the school year feeling okay, now into summer break, building a grill and catching up on reading (which I did far too little of during the Academic Year from Hell) and training for a marathon... pretty much all good. How 'bout in your part of the world?

Ben

Oh wow that sounds like bliss! I'm probably at the other end haha. Got a lot going on at work, trying to get the boys to use their brains a bit more, think about their actions and the effects on others, had a hiccup with my drivers license (which has just been cleared).. More work on the horizon...

IT's starting to have an effect on my ability to focus, so I haven't been overly productive, which has sort of exacerbated the whole thing haha

nitsua60

IT=doing IT work, or is it a different abbreviation I'm not thinking of?

Ben

It* as in everything. My Keyboard (or maybe just my reactions?) often capitalises the first two letters of a word when I use shift and type quickly.

nitsua60

12:27 AM

AH, gotcha =)

Ben

YOu get it :P

nitsua60

I've slowly realized that either double-capitalizing or shifting space sin words by one letter is a sign that I'm overtired.

Ben

Well, I'm always tired haha. I think i need about a weeks worth of ~27 hour naps to catch up

#FatherOfTwo Lolololol

AncientSwordRage

@Ben they may have simplified it for the movies

Ben

True. That was part of the reason why I asked the question, since it seemed to be an anger managment thing instead

BESW

12:38 AM

Bold of the querent to assume that sixty years of different writers and producers across multiple companies and many different mediums, would all stay consistent on the idea of what Banner's transformation is an allegory for.

linksassin

@Ben G'day, how's it going? Did you need me for something or just saying hi? (Both are welcome)

Ben

@BESW Well based on the fact that the character was inspired by Jekyll and Hyde, then they started going off an emotional trgiger, then throwing in a heart rate monitor... it gets confused

@linksassin Just saying hey, haven't seen you in a while

Well... ever, I guess. :P

BESW

The original concept was also drawing on Frankenstein's monster and the Golem.

Ben

You know what I mean haha

@BESW True. That's why I wanted to know what the trigger was/is... Though I suppose it should be triggers (multiple)

BESW

And like with all properties, each new writer shapes it to reflect their own experiences and concerns. Anger, stress, sometimes it's just night that causes the transformation.

(The first year of Hulk had his transformations just be a day/night thing; then they retconned it to be stress-based, around the same time that the Hulk's intelligence and vocabulary were toned down.)

Ben

12:50 AM

Going sideways a bit - I have a theory about the Holo deck in Star Trek. They often visit either alien planets, or the 70s-90s periods. I know that's due to the limitations of the time, but my alternate theory is that after the 90s things just became more unifrom and less inspired.

And for all the flaws of that period (primarily the bold fashion choices) I do admire the inspiration the time period had.

Reimagining old icons into new ones, Coming up with all new icons all together...

linksassin

@Ben Who knows, I've been to brisbane. Granted it was a long time ago and I was like 12 but I've been there.

Ben

@linksassin Well, I used to live there. We moved when I was 9, but I do go back and visit family. So there's a chance. A very small chance, but it's there

@AncientSwordRage It might be worthwhile to repost the question as a new one - as @BESW has pointed out, it is currently related to emotional/physical stress, but over time that changed. My original inspiration for the question is a now outdated movie, nut the interest in what it was in a more uniform understanding, over all iterations of the Hulk.

AncientSwordRage

@Ben hmmm I've edited it just now to have the comic tag

Feel free to roll that back and add a movie specific tag

Ben

Well, Like I said in the comment, it was about both. The thought was inspired by the movie, but I was interested in the comics as well.

AncientSwordRage

That means the current answers are still relevant and we can ask a new comics focused question

Ben

1:03 AM

Ithink maybe the fact that it was scoped to the iteration of the Incredible Hulk specifically might have narrowed it down as well

BESW

For myself, a much more interesting line of query is what causes Bruce/Bob to become the Hulk in the first place. eg, self-sacrifice (2003 film and original comic) vs grief (1978 tv), etc.

Ben

@BESW Maybe he's born with it, maybe it's Gamma Radiation?

[Side note: I don't know how many will get that.]

AncientSwordRage

I'd love to find a sandman (the Spider-Man villain) hulk crossover comic where they shoot them breeze in a bar and talk about their origins

@Ben 🙋🏻‍♂️

BESW

Also for tagging purposes it might be worth remembering that "The Incredible Hulk" is the name of a film, three different TV series, at least two different comics (one based on one of the tv series), and four video games.

AncientSwordRage

@BESW at a glance the tag implies it's for the character

BESW

1:05 AM

Which is. amusing.

Ben

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AncientSwordRage

@Ben I got it

Ben

@BESW Yeah. The Incredible Hulk is one "version". Much like the difference between the "Amazing" and "Spectacular" Spiderman(s)

@AncientSwordRage Oh right. Good. Lol

Though nowadays they list them all as alternate universes.. Earth-616 and so on

BESW

All hail the illusion of continuity!

Ben

I was learning up about the discontinuity of Carnage recently. And fun fact - Deadpool was another that doesn't have any continuity either

He was a henchman that just took off then they just came up with some superpowers for him and went from there

AncientSwordRage

1:12 AM

@Ben I'm not at all surprised by Deadpool

Yeah that tag is grunked up

Ben

Anyway, I have a meeting to attend, So I shall bid you all adieu!

AncientSwordRage

Au revoir

The Oracle

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Q: Which tag should we use when OP thinks they are asking about a house rule but it is actually an official optional rule?

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KorvinStarmast

3:24 AM

@AncientSwordRage Hmm, seems you dropped some bounty on me, and I don't think I thanked you. thank you, kind sir. 😎

Axoren

3:37 AM

@ThomasMarkov I should probably chuck a thank you your way, too. You gave me a pretty big bounty on my now-top-rated answer. Thanks.

@TheOracle misunderstood-rule?

bobble

that was supposed to be a shift-enter... ugh

me: *opens book to a random page*
book: Ruin has come! Life will end.
me: whaat oh no

Axoren

book: "Oh, yes!"

BESW

bobble

(book is The Hero of Ages, re-read number eleventy billion)

This book is directly responsible for me starting to read online articles about TTRPGs - there's an ad for the "Mistborn Adventure Game" in the back and I remember Googling it to see if the game was any good

BESW

3:54 AM

Hah, nice.

Axoren

Does anyone remember a question about a homebrew feat that would be strictly worse than what's already possible with basic grappling?

I can't seem to find it in search, but I should be able to read deleted posts.

Ben

@Axoren there's deleted, then there's removed. I have a similar post about the 11d1 dagger from GURPS - it no longer exists

Axoren

I felt like it would have been relevant to the question Thomas posted on meta.

Adeptus

4:14 AM

@Ben wait... 11d1?

BESW

Deleted stuff still exists but can't be found (easily/at all) by searching after some time. If you made the post, try adding deleted:yes to your search.

If you didn't make the post and you aren't a mod on the site, the stuff might not show up for you at all, depending on variables like how long ago it was deleted.

Ben

@Adeptus yup. Lol

Adeptus

@BESW Thanks for reminding me, I had a Skin Horse page to catch up on

After binge-reading the back-log of a web comic, waiting for the daily entries just feels so slow...

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kviiri

6:47 AM

@Powerdork I guess that'd mean what specifically is meant by discussions about RAW. With DnD 5e in particular I've often found it a useful way to convince people that the rules don't mean what they think they mean, if only because they are somewhat unclear despite being rather explicit.

That is, they contain a chunk of terminology that appears frequently and is fertile land for confusion due to counterintuitive definitions, while also being relatively clear with their definitions for the most part if one knows where to look.

My favorite example is attack. Without even getting into the "Attack action" vs "attack" case which adds a new layer of obfuscation on its own, it's very reasonable for a newcomer to assume that a Fireball counts as an attack, or a Magic missile. The game recognizes neither as attacks even though in natural language, both of them would obviously be attacks.

But thankfully for this particular case the rules do feature a snippet that explains rather clearly (not quite perfectly, but still) what attack is intended to mean in the context of the game: the intent is explained in RAW but only if you know where to look

More than that, there's also everything BESW said on the topic. RAW is just a very convenient conversational tool compared to alternatives, for DnD-like games. Perhaps games with a more pronounced design philosophy could offer better alternatives

AncientSwordRage

7:24 AM

@KorvinStarmast ya welcome!

BESW

10:13 AM

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10:30 AM

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doppelgreener

10:58 AM

@AncientSwordRage thanks for the edit to that Oracle message :)

Akixkisu

11:17 AM

@Powerdork many, I used to do AL and they were essential to that.

AncientSwordRage

@doppelgreener you're welcome

I did the same over on SFF, and I didn't see anyone had done it here yet

Akixkisu

@doppelgreener were the comments useful in explaining my position? :)

doppelgreener

@Akixkisu they were, but my gut's still telling me the right call is [house-rules], and that [optional-rules] would not be relevant to describing the content of the question

Akixkisu

11:36 AM

@doppelgreener yeah, I think yours is an intuitive position and one that I have held in different scenarios. In particular I remember a question about water volume. I wonder if I can find it.

Unfortunately I can't find it.

It had some pretty far-fetched physics calculation, but essentially it hinged on whether you could target something with a spell.

But due to a lot of the assumptions in the question there was no causal chain that even remotely mentioned whether this is something that you can do.

It was instead framed based on a different issue that arose by applying those assumptions.

The tags selected represented those assumptions, but what they did not do was attract the right kind of experts.

I think it was V2 that eventually changed them, but I'm not certain.

Thomas Markov

11:59 AM

@doppelgreener how would you like to get access to the draft?

BESW

Open a window?

Thomas Markov

@BESW Be a starter for 4 years of college football at a power 5 school?

doppelgreener

12:23 PM

@ThomasMarkov Oh, I owe you an email! I've just now sent it.

Thomas Markov

@doppelgreener You should have received in invite to edit

doppelgreener

I got it :)

RevanantBacon

1:04 PM

@ThomasMarkov I don't get that one users claim that thing being magic is somehow different from it being magical

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Anyone scuba dive here?

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