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Ben

12:01 AM

Hmm... [googles "mrs man"]

BESW

@bobble Half man, half squirm!

AncientSwordRage

@Ben vaati?

Ben

vaatividya. Talks about the lore of the SoulsBorne series

AncientSwordRage

@Ben oh and do you mean a YouTube channel then?

I wouldn't really know

Ben

Yeah

AncientSwordRage

12:07 AM

@BESW half cat, half snake, half man

bobble

@AncientSwordRage squints and zero percent math, I assume

Ben

I've had a couple of random thoughts over the last couple of years... the latest being that the reason Tyrael turns into a man after removing his wings is because he was no longer entirely an angel at that point

@bobble no no... it checks out. :P

BESW

Apr 10 '18 at 20:45, by BESW

The Triceraprops: One third prop comic, one-third prop comic, one-third comic prop.

MikeQ

There are quite a few youtube channels out there about Diablo lore and theories. So it's viable, but it wouldn't be unique.

Ben

@MikeQ I've seen a few about the lore, that just explain the actual lore... haven't seen any about theories though?

AncientSwordRage

12:25 AM

@bobble I run on physics. And physics is just maths and lying.

bobble

@AncientSwordRage in what proportions?

AncientSwordRage

@bobble who knows? Physics is just going to lie about them anyway 🙃

Ben

12:46 AM

It's how i exist in multiple timelines at once

Today and tomorrow, to be exact

bobble

@Ben relative to when?

AncientSwordRage

@bobble (it's a chat in joke, I'll see if I can clue you in)

bobble

Unfortunately I must be out now

AncientSwordRage

@bobble maybe next time

BESW

1:12 AM

xyzpodcast x centaur games (collab with constructing worlds)

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Hot RPG Questions

2:41 AM

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Q: Can Monk Unarmored Movement walk/run through the rain?

At lvl 9 the Monk class gains this ability [...you gain the ability to move along vertical surfaces and across liquids on Your Turn without Falling during the move] Now my question is, if it can move acros liquids, why can't it run upward through a heavy rain? I keep having this discussion with...

Bardic Wizard

Hi

Shalvenay

@BardicWizard good seeing you back around, how've things been?

Bardic Wizard

@Shalvenay today, horrible cause the second COVID shot disagreed with me badly. Otherwise okay

Been busy with stuff but it’s just almost done with the year so thank goodness

How’s things here?

Shalvenay

@BardicWizard ah. been alright here for the most part, hope you get feeling better soon

Bardic Wizard

@Shalvenay thanks

AncientSwordRage

3:13 AM

@BardicWizard yay! Hullo there! A wild bardic wizard appears!

@BardicWizard oof, sorry to hear that... Get well soon

@HotRPGQuestions wild

One of those answers is not supported though

bobble

3:45 AM

quietly bobbles back in

Bardic Wizard

3:57 AM

@AncientSwordRage thanks

BESW

5:49 AM

Lucas Rolim wrote a short twitter thread about the value of worldbuilding that considers "how the flux of magic works, and how it is produced and consumed."

Amr Ammourazz is asking on twitter for "recommendations for indie TTRPGs that do a solid job of dual axis resolution."

AncientSwordRage

11:40 AM

@BESW I posted (a version) of what wrote here in response to Kazumi Chin's tweet wrt Verbs, processes and aesthetics, as a reply to that tweet. And they said it was helpful to them

BESW

Nice!

AncientSwordRage

I was pleased/surprised

Thomas Markov

11:54 AM

what do yall think of this dupe closure. Seemed pretty straightforward to me.

Medix2

I'd say it's a dupe as well

I debate just actually asking my "Do AoEs target creatures inside them" question today

Thomas Markov

let me know so I can get first answer :P

Im just gonna copy paste my first section of this answer

Medix2

My question will contain further evidence to support your claim btw

I guess my answer there contains most of it XD

I assume you've read this answer @ThomasMarkov ?

Akixkisu

12:12 PM

Anything that I missed about why somebody wants to close this? rpg.stackexchange.com/q/11749/44723

Medix2

@Akixkisu It could be shopping. But I believe they want rules?

BESW

Akixkisu

@Medix2 ah, looks like a pretty close rules question.

@BESW yeah, but that doesn't tell me a lot.

BESW

Here's the thing: there's a terrible but comprehensive set of rules and guidelines for what they're asking, in a 3.0 book.

Thomas Markov

@Medix2 Yeah, not sure how id rule there.

BESW

12:15 PM

(I had a catfolk who used those rules to make adornments for his mane.)

Medix2

@ThomasMarkov I'd probably say they just worded it poorly, unlike other features: "any spell that targets only him (not in an area of effect)"

Akixkisu

@BESW that sounds vaguely familiar.

Can't wait to sell all of those books to a poor soul who thinks they want them.

BESW

I'm trying to remember the name of the book, I think it's the one that also had the Amulet of Ooze-Riding.

The Arms and Equipment Guide, that's the one.

RevanantBacon

@ThomasMarkov Yeah, it's definitely a dupe

BESW

It had a lot of tables for pretending that D&D economics weren't just using gold as a measure of expected utility in standard adventure scenarios, and that included a section on jewelry.

Akixkisu

12:21 PM

I know someone who ended up in a work-group that still plays 3.5 and I don't envy him at all - such a horrible edition.

RevanantBacon

@BESW Equipment bloat was a real issue in those days. There was an overly specific magic item for everything

BESW

I cut my teeth on 3.x, it was my very first TRPG and we had a lot of fun playing almost nothing else for about five years.

It's claimed corners of my brain that I don't expect it to ever relinquish.

Akixkisu

@BESW I'm glad that I played other things before it, though I also played so much of it.

BESW

I definitely had to un-learn a lot of habits as I moved into other styles and spaces.

Akixkisu

@BESW yeah, So did I, and unfortunately, I dmed for so many people who had that edition and its quirks incorporated. Players get very specific ideas about how things work and that was in sanctioned 5e play almost as bad as JC on Twitter.

BESW

12:29 PM

Moving to 4e let me see that my problems with 3.5 weren't with the system so much as with the D&D franchise and its baggage as a whole, because even in a much better system I still had a lot of the same struggles at the table.

And I'm probably lucky that Fate was my major path into other kinds of TRPGs because it was very very clear about being Not That.

Akixkisu

D&D is problematic in many regards, but there is also a quality difference in its good and bad editions.

BESW

Simultaneously the best and worst of D&D is that it provides so much structure with such ignorable guidance.

(as a system, of course, and ignoring all the real-world problems which cause, influence, and inflect around that quality)

Akixkisu

@BESW maybe. I believe the best and worst is its market dominance. It makes it the most accessible game that is culturally and socially widely accepted and relatable. It is bad. But it makes inviting people to play the game and the likelihood that they will accept so much higher than any other ttrpg.

BESW

Yeah. As above: only speaking to the system itself and not the real-world space it occupies.

(DichotomousPrime and POCGamer were just talking earlier this evening about how the market presence of D&D is largely due to Gygax's talent as an IP rep and salesman which has perhaps never been equaled since in TRPG history.)

But I can also put on my Design Hat and look at how the systems themselves succeed and fail, what engages players and where it gives room for them to engage themselves, and I can try to learn from that.

(This is something I've noticed the last couple of years, as I write my own games and participate in designer spaces more; conversations on the same topics that happen between consumers of TRPGs, can be VERY different than between creators of TRPGs--and both of those inflect around access points like language and income.)

Eddymage

1:03 PM

@Medix2 What I was trying to describe is the following situation:
|                   : :
|--------------   : :
|                   : :
|                   : :
|                   : :
|                   : :
|                   : :
|____________________
where the bottom line is ground, the dots represent the rain and the dotted line is the platform the Monk wants to reach.

It seems to me that the word "across" in the description of the feature does not have any role in saying that you can not rain walk

oh boy, all the dots should be aligned...

Akixkisu

@BESW yes, also depending on where you have that conversation. This is also a phenomenon in academia - the where matters even more than the who.

Someone_Evil

@Eddymage Fixed it for you :)

Akixkisu

The new fonts are so much better.

Someone_Evil

I thought, something still seems not quite right

Medix2

@Eddymage Yeah I just cannot in any way get a reading that lets you run on raindrops

Eddymage

1:09 PM

@Someone_Evil Thanks! Better now! Even if they should be on the same column, but I hope that the idea is clear

Medix2

I'm not really sure how to explain that any better

Eddymage

@Medix2 Agree: I wonder even if you can climb on waterfalls

Medix2

Now that I can see being iffy but I would say you can't go across anything vertical

But I'd probably rule that it works anyway because it's cool (and my worlds aren't sprawling with waterfall puzzles)

BESW

Does 5e have a rule like the previous two editions, about allowing vertical movement as part of a normal move if a Strength/Climb check is made?

AncientSwordRage

@Medix2 maybe they should be? 😉

Medix2

1:15 PM

Climbing costs double movement IIRC, but that's, of course, only if the GM says the surface is climbable in the first place

BESW

Generally speaking, anyway, I find that unique movement types in that sort of game are often limited simply by virtue of the entire party not being able to follow.

Medix2

Enter: carrying capacity XD

Eddymage

@Medix2 Rule of cool Rules! :-D

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