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Powerdork

12:00 AM

I'm curious what that means!

Ben

@powerdork you talking about the "spiritual manifestations" or the "battle quail"?

Cos I too want to better understand the Battle Quails XD

Powerdork

Both, even.

BESW

Mumphrey is Harriet the Invincible's battle quail.

Ben

@BESW That's amazing

@Powerdork Well, the world we're playing in is split into three parts, or regions: The Light, The Night, and the Dark. The Light and the Night are ruled over by two Queens, each in charge of their own region, then the "middle men" are the Baron, the Duke, and the Count, which each take turns to govern over 3 of the 4 seasons. The fourth is left to the people.

No one has been able to get through the "Forest of Nightmares", which separates the Light and the Night regions, but rumours have been told that it is possible. And no one wants to go into the dark.

As for the population, the concept is that when a person dreams, within the inner Realms, a representation of them is manifested in the world. And since these people are created by dreams, they themselves cannot dream (apparently that is a very important detail... I smell a plot hook)

The Warforged, on the other hand, are not created in the same way... Instead, they are empty shells that are merely inhabited by less detailed "dream" representations. The fleeting idea of a person, rather than anything detailed. Imagine a nightmare when a crowd is running from a monster. You never see, nor focus on the other people, maybe only one or two. You never see their faces, or hear their voices, you only get an idea of that person.

Powerdork

12:18 AM

Neat!

(Like actually neat, if I were in the game I'd want to explore their nature more.)

Ben

My Character is part of the "Maintenance Cult" that maintains all the mechanical and electrical systems in the city, but he has a strange and intense fascination with the "mechanics" of the human body, and a strong attachment to a skull he carries around. No one (not even he) knows where the skull came from, it was just on him when he woke up.

The idea is that since Warforged have such short lifespans, in this realm it's not due to their physical lifespan, it's due to their "attachment" to the realm. Over time, it fades, until the shell is left empty again, ready for the next "person" to inhabit it.

Shalvenay

12:54 AM

hey there @linksassin

linksassin

@Shalvenay G'day how's it going?

Shalvenay

@linksassin alright here, as for you?

linksassin

@Shalvenay Not too bad. Things are pretty quiet at the moment.

Shalvenay

@linksassin ah, likewise more or less. did get to take 4e for a spin recently so that was nice. also, how's your bladesinger doing?

linksassin

1:09 AM

@Shalvenay Good. Got one or two very enjoyable combats in before our group went on holiday break. Our DM is taking some time off until mid-feb.

Shalvenay

@linksassin aah

Powerdork

1:23 AM

[wave]

Shalvenay

[waves back]

Powerdork

What's good?

Shalvenay

doing alright here even though Saturday didn't work out.

linksassin

@Shalvenay What didn't work out?

Shalvenay

@linksassin ah, was invited to a session 0 but the inviter kind of jumped the gun on the invite

linksassin

1:38 AM

@Shalvenay Oh, that's a shame. Sorry to hear it.

Xirema

2:34 AM

Could someone with a screenreader look over this answer that I've just edited and let me know if it can read it okay?

I did some formatting jank to try to preserve the original style I used with the Mathjax in Markdown, and I'd like to know that the jank didn't interfere with the readability in a significant way.

Medix2

How often does community to this?

First time I've seen an edit quite like that. I'm rather surprised at it in all honesty, and kinda laughing that it changed behaviour to behavior

Oh, community owns anonymously suggested edits

Someone_Evil

@Medix2 That's a suggested edit by an anonymous user

@Medix2 Well, I sometimes have to stop myself from changeing that the other way, so *shrug*

linksassin

@Medix2 Regional spelling differences should be discouraged generally, but that edit does more than just that so it was alright.

Medix2

It's funny working on sites that use British English but then there's random words where I just have no idea if British English has a u or an e or something else in there

linksassin

2:51 AM

@Medix2 Then there's us Australian's just messing with you. We generally use British but have a few random exceptions.

Medix2

Of course, all this as if English spelling made any sense to begin with XD

Ben

@linksassin True blue eh

The one thing I like most about the variation of "Australian English" is the use of "Umm" instead of "Err"

Medix2

What is "err"?

Ben

The sound some people (ime generally british people) make when they're thinking.

BESW

> "I’ve got a report here from the Text Sea Environmental Protection Agency saying that reserves of the letter U have reached dangerously low levels—we need to decrease consumption until stocks are brought back up. Any suggestions?"
"How about using a lower-case n upside down?" said Benedict.
"We tried that with M and W during the great M Migration of ’62; it never worked."
"How about respelling what, what?" suggested King Pellinore, stroking his large white mustache. "Any word with the our ending could be spelt or, don’tchaknow."

Medix2

2:56 AM

Like "Err, where are we going?" or "I want to go back err no, not back, I want to go through"

Ben

@Medix2 yeah

Medix2

@BESW Now that was downright hilarious

Ben

@BESW Yes XD

linksassin

@BESW Reads like an excerpt from Hitchhikers.

Someone_Evil

@BESW Reserves are obviously low because one is spent being every q

BESW

2:59 AM

:56886820 The Well of Lost Plots, from Jasper Fforde's "Thursday Next" series.

Ben

Fun fact about me: it took me three re-watchings of "A Knights Tale" to realize the Character's name was "Wot", instead of used as slang. E.g. I thought "Give us your dagger, wot" actually meant "Give us your dagger, yeah?"

BESW

I recommend at least the first book (The Eyre Affair) for anybody who enjoys noodling with "classic" English literature. It's set in an alternate universe where literature is the dominant pop culture influence. Instead of interactive screenings of Rocky Horror, people go to interactive performances of Richard III.

@Ben Probably a diminutive of Walter.

Ben

True. Tbf I watched this when it first came out, so, still on VHS, and I was 12 haha

BESW

I looked it up just now and they spell it Wat, which surprised me because I'd assumed they were saying Wart (the nickname given to young Arthur in White's The Once and Future King).

So we were both wrong!

TheDragonOfFlame

@AncientSwordRage comb is from Snow White too

Ben

3:11 AM

@BESW TIL haha

BESW

MUDSLURP (Multi-User Discord Server Lore-Universe Role Play) by Will Uhl. roleplaying game about asynchronous communication, intersecting storylines, and carrying a piece of your characters with you in everyday life. Compatible with other TRPGS. Also available on itchio and DTRPG.

The Hollows by Gordie Murphy. An eco-horror Trophy hack about draining the energy from the earth to fuel your magic

strasa wrote a twitter thread about reading the quickstart guide from the Lighthearted Kickstarter.

BESW

3:39 AM

Space Goblins! Final Digital PDFs Release!!!

Ben

Just informed my workmate of the origin of "Lunacy". They didn't realise it was the effect of the full moon on people's ability to sleep.

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4:31 AM

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Ben

On a related note: the dice roller room is frozen lol

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linksassin

@Ben Fixed that for you.

Powerdork

5:02 AM

4d

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Powerdork

Pips are good. How many of you use dice with pips instead of numerals on the regular?

BESW

Powerdork

Advanced pips.

Ben

Yes/No/Maybe pips

@Powerdork I have an assortment. Some with Pips, some with numbers, one that's the Companion cube (has a ❤ for the 6) and one that says "F***" for the 1.

I also have a lot of d12s. around 16-20 I think

BESW

5:09 AM

My dice.

Ben

@BESW leave fate to the dice.

BESW

(Not pictured: about 35 dice I don't consider easily useable. Pictured: a bag of Fate tokens and a bag of poker chips.)

Ben

BESW

5:23 AM

@Powerdork Pipped d6s are cheaper for me to buy in bulk. Most every non-d6 dice I've seen uses numerals.

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Bardic Wizard

6:50 AM

I can only pop in for a couple minutes, but hi!

BESW

[wave] Nice to see ya.

Bardic Wizard

One of my groups has defeated the schedule monster and for once our gaming session wasn’t “umm where’s X?” “No idea. Wanna talk books and yarn?” “Alright”

This is very good

Also I’m working on some projects but they’re failing miserably

How’s everyone here?

BESW

Haven't done much with games, but I'm forcing myself to draw humans every day and that's nice.

Bardic Wizard

@BESW Fun! I still can’t draw so my art’s been crochet and spinning lately

Any good drawings?

BESW

They're all quick sketches so far. I like the energy in this one:

Bardic Wizard

6:56 AM

That’s really pretty!

BESW

I spent more time on the shading for this one, and I'm kinda proud of the perspective:

Since I don't see a lot of Actual Humans these days, I'm sketching from the 1972 TV movie Kolchak: the Night Stalker

Bardic Wizard

That’s cool too! Anyways phone is shutting off, see ya!

BESW

ttfn

Adeptus

7:25 AM

@BESW one of our local channels is playing this. My wife has been watching it.

BESW

@Adeptus I like the series too! But I'm sketching from the original movie.

Adeptus

@BESW there was a movie?

BESW

There was a TV movie (The Night Stalker) in 1972, a sequel movie (The Night Strangler) in 1973, and then they did a season of TV show (Kolchak: The Night Strangler) in 1974-75.

It's a VERY influential property. It's an acknowledged direct inspiration for The X-Files, and significant elements of the D&D Rakshasa monster come from one of the TV series episodes.

Typo: the series was Kolchak: The Night Stalker. Bah.

Here, have a screenshot I took of one of the most obvious-in-a-still-frame matte paintings I've seen in a VERY long time, from the second film:

(This is why we match our lighting colors to our matte paintings, people. It'd be a perfectly serviceable matte if they'd matched the colors.)

AncientSwordRage

10:38 AM

@BESW It doesn't look right, but I cannot put my finger on it

BESW

The blue-tinted buildings, fog, and carriages are physical objects on the set (probably a back lot made up like a city street). But the scene is supposed to be taking place in a Victorian-era street that sunk and was built over by modern-day Seattle, so the brown-tinted left and top areas are a painting on a pane of glass, placed close to the camera and lined up so that they cover the tops of the buildings and whatever modern-day set dressing they're clearly obscuring on the left side.

It's especially obvious with the brown shutters on a blue building in the middle of the shot: they painted shutters onto the glass pane in front of the camera, to make the building look more abandoned.

If they'd matched the lighting on the set to the color of the painting, you'd have to look much closer to see texture changes, or (as is often the case with cheaper matte implementations) a tell-tale thin dark line along some of the matte edges.

Here's some examples of matte paintings from several different films for comparison; most of them are much harder to see the edges of, but the blog shows you the painting itself also so you can find the edges and see how well or poorly the matching was done.

Thomas Markov

delete dis

AncientSwordRage

@BESW that I noticed

AncientSwordRage

12:29 PM

Do we want this here

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Q: How much energy does a breaching sandworm generate

So this started out a question related to a Dungeons and Dragons session I had once, where I was playing a druid and used the spell Bones of the Earth and the fate of a Purple Worm, now known affectionately as Chad. Our DM of the session has a penchant for the Rule of Cool, and tends to ignore ce...

dune physics biology dungeons-and-dragons energy

(RPG Mod here) This probably isn't a good fit for RPG.SE, working out the feasibility/physics for something in a fictional world is probably better suited to Worldbuilding, but check their on-topic section first. — Someone_Evil 20 hours ago

Ah, @Someone_Evil got to it first

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

Shouldn't wrong answers be merely downvoted instead of deletion?

BESW

12:51 PM

Yeah, that... requires no RPG expert knowledge, I think.

Thomas Markov

1:48 PM

@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica Yeah I voted to undelete.

That's a good one to leave up.

Thomas Markov

2:38 PM

It will never not confuse me when I get an accept check and no upvotes.

Someone_Evil

IIRC unreg accounts can't cast votes (which includes upvotes and flags), but has an exception for the accept mark

Thomas Markov

Unreg accounts cant upvote answers on their own questions?

AncientSwordRage

@Someone_Evil unregistered or unverified?

I didn't think you could ask a question without being logged in to an account

Someone_Evil

@AncientSwordRage An unregistered account will be created for you if you aren't logged in. You'll see it marked on the profile

AncientSwordRage

@Someone_Evil ::brain explosion noises::

Someone_Evil

2:50 PM

Ah, here my source for the above btw:

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A: Unregistered users should be able to delete their own answers

This is by-design. If you want to delete posts (remember, a delete is considered a vote) then you have to use a registered account. Cookie-based accounts don't support voting, therefore they don't support deletion. So if you want to nag the user to register so he or she can delete their own st...

@AncientSwordRage SOX can also add that info onto the actual post. It's quite convenient sometimes

AncientSwordRage

@Someone_Evil SOX?

Someone_Evil

Jul 20 '20 at 19:11, by Someone_Evil

May 31 '19 at 16:56, by Rubiksmoose

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AncientSwordRage

oh extras

that thing I can't use as I'm on a work laptop 99% of the time

Someone_Evil

3:06 PM

A useful nugget from the above is that unreg users can't flag their own posts, which is occasionally relevant (so if you're suggesting they do, point them to completing registration first)

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kviiri

3:59 PM

Hiya

Thomas Markov

4:41 PM

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NautArch

4:53 PM

@ThomasMarkov mazel tov!

Thomas Markov

Did it in 11 months.

Rubiksmoose

woo!

JohnP

5:42 PM

Pop Evil - Be Legendary (Official Music Video)

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Thomas Markov

@JohnP hey, I might have a question for your stack!

JohnP

@ThomasMarkov Cool! Which one? :p

Thomas Markov

Fitness

@JohnP Could use some help looking around to see if something similar has been asked before.

Actually, my search only turned 38 results, should be easy enough to check.

JohnP

No problem. You can always ask here or on the fitness chat too.

Medix2

6:11 PM

@ThomasMarkov You've got more detect balance to plug-and-chug XD

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating words in answer, toxic answer detected (166): What's a spell focus and how does it work? by Jesus on rpg.SE (@Rubiksmoose)

Medix2

@SmokeDetector Go team!

JohnP

Dang I need to get to 10k. I've been sitting around 9 for evah.

Medix2

"bleep blooooooooooooooooop blopppppppppppp" made me laugh at least

Rubiksmoose

:)

Gwideon

6:27 PM

hello

TheDragonOfFlame

6:40 PM

Hello

kviiri

Hiya! o/

Thomas Markov

Let it be known that @Medix2 forgot to state the system.

Medix2

I almost responded with "So that's how people do this"

AncientSwordRage

\\oo/

oh hai

Thomas Markov

@Medix2 I think weve got a dupe or near dupe somewhere

Medix2

6:52 PM

@ThomasMarkov I probably should've checked harder for that...

AncientSwordRage

update on the sandworm question, from Rand:

Sorry, but after some enquiries with mods and users of various sites, this post as-is doesn't seem to be on-topic for any site on the Stack Exchange network. Science Fiction & Fantasy deals with in-universe questions but not real-world physics; Physics deals with real-world physics but they might consider this "too basic" or homework-type if it's distilled down to the underlying physics problem; for Role-playing Games see Someone_Evil's comment above; Worldbuilding usually doesn't take questions about 3rd-party worlds, but they'd consider this if it was rephrased to be about something in your own world. — Rand al'Thor ♦ 4 mins ago

Thomas Markov

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@Medix2 is that a dupe?

Medix2

I'd be fine with it being duped

Someone_Evil

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Medix2

Never seen this before:

> Your dnd-5e badge usually lets you single-handedly close dnd-5e questions as duplicates and reopen them. However, since you participated in editing this question's tags, this privilege doesn't apply this time.

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Thomas Markov

6:56 PM

@Medix2 whoaaaaaaaaaa

AncientSwordRage

@ThomasMarkov they're on to you

Medix2

Oh so that's what this looks like... now I REALLY see why people ask new questions instead of explaining why it wasn't actually a dupe

It also prompts you to delete, wow, now I truly understand the oddities...

Someone_Evil

Wait, so because you edited in the 5e tag, your gold badge stopped you unilateraly closing your own question as a dupe? You should have been able to do that without the badge

Medix2

@Someone_Evil I know right?!

Though now I'm wondering what happens to a Warlock with 5th level spell slots and one 3rd level spell slot... when does it go back to normal

Gwideon

so this maybe a bit weird but I kinda have a character of mine that I have completely fallen in love with.

Someone_Evil

7:03 PM

Not weird

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

/me waves its pedipalps in greeting.

Do you mean that *literally*, or just 'very hyped to keep playing this PC'?

Gwideon

latter

I'm just gonna send a image

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

Ah yeah, the latter (just hyped) does seem to be the normal thing to happen to interesting PCs.

Gwideon

she's a satyr echoknight fighter/ cleric multi-class

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

For someone the image made me think of a mouse.

Gwideon

7:06 PM

she follows the goddess of love and has a bit of a flirty side and yeah.

I find it to be an interesting reversal of the usual cleric archetype

Thomas Markov

@Gwideon This sentence gave @NautArch a migraine

Gwideon

you know all holy and stuff. she's a devote follower of her goddess it just happens that the tenants of her goddess encourage such behavior,

Someone_Evil

@ThomasMarkov What's wrong with satyrs?

Gwideon

@Someone_Evil I think they meant the multi-class

Medix2

Probably really just meant the Echo Knight XD

Gwideon

7:12 PM

but yeah she's a ton of fun and I've really been enjoying echo knight

also went with the peace cleric as I thought the whole bonds feature went well with a follower of a love goddess (also it was the love cleric in unearthed arcana)

worked out It out with the dm to allow me to play echo knight without adding in dunamancy. basically explained it as magical experiments that were conducted on her when she was young.

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

@Gwideon Experiments seem like such a classic source of uniqueness of PCs. In the last handful of campaigns, I've seen at least two PCs with unusual features and such an explanation of origins.

Gwideon

yeah it's easy to work with and yeah

Thomas Markov

I like the echo knight. It could use some rewording of features though.

Gwideon

@ThomasMarkov that is true but I find it pretty enjoyable but I'm not going past lvl 5 with fighter. I'll be going full cleric from now on.

anyways I'll be quiet

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

7:27 PM

@Gwideon What are the selling points of the class? Is it all about having a secondary piece on the chessboard, or are things more complex than that?

Gwideon

@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica you hit it on the head. plus you can make even more attacks with the echo and yeah.

Thomas Markov

The 7th level feature is pretty dope.

> You can temporarily transfer your consciousness to your echo. As an action, you can see through your echo’s eyes and hear through its ears. During this time, you are deafened and blinded. You can sustain this effect for up to 10 minutes, and you can end it at any time (requires no action). While your echo is being used in this way, it can be up to 1,000 feet away from you without being destroyed.

Gwideon

yeah it's pretty cool

Thomas Markov

Which synergizes with this feature: "As a bonus action, you can teleport, magically swapping places with your echo at a cost of 15 feet of your movement, regardless of the distance between the two of you."

Gwideon

although there is a funny thought. two echoknights can essentially play a fighting game.

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

7:33 PM

Meanwhile: GURPS Furries are complete and released. People said this would never happen.

Medix2

@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica I will now scrutinize how it reflects the furry community...

I don't know if I want to spend $8 just to see how the community is portrayed in a random GURPS homebrew...

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

@Medix2 Not homebrew.

Medix2

@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica I might spend those $8 now...

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

It's written by whswhs, who seems to produce interesting books, though the two of us have our share of disagreements on system design questions.

Medix2

Oh there's a preview, this should paint a good enough picture

Gwideon

7:39 PM

I've never really played gurps but I know fallout's special system is somewhat based on it.

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

@Gwideon The connection is extremely tenuous. The two corporations were planning to work together, but things didn't work out and Fallout went on its own with its own system.

Gwideon

that is true but yeah

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

I can go into listing the big differences if curious.

Actually now that I think about it, I have a hard time finding similarities between the two.

Gwideon

probably because it started out based on gurps but has so radically diverged as to be unrecognizable.

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

I guess the fact that both systems have attributes (possibly by two different names) and skills that are mathematically based on attributes. And technically both being roll-under systems.

Gwideon

7:43 PM

sadly that's not how the system works anymore in fallout. makes me really sad.

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

Oh, the 4 and later?

Gwideon

yep

Medix2

There are some good side boxes in here, wow

vicky_molokh- unsilence Monica

But Fallout is level-based, GURPS is free point-buy.
Fallout HP grows like in D&D and is a major contributor to survivability, GURPS HP is largely fixed in a short range (survivability comes from dodge and parry scores).
Fallout hands out Perks on a per-level basis, GURPS assumes you start out with a bunch of Advantages right away.
Fallout bundles Traits into benefit/drawback pairs, GURPS *mostly* has those freely-assignable (with point budget adjustments).
GURPS is bell-curved 3d6-based (and strictly d6-based). Fallout is d100-based in skills, d10 in attributes, and don't remember what dic…

Medix2

And a random microscopic history lesson I suppose ??

My review: It does a much better job than I was expecting

Thomas Markov

7:56 PM

@Medix2 This can cover a wide range, depending on how low or high your expectations were.

Medix2

@ThomasMarkov The general media (and counter-media/counter-claims from furries themselves) have made most of my expectations rather low. This exceeded them rather well though

It had lines that felt forced and it certainly felt a bit weird to be reading "furry" where "anthropomorphic" would've done them just fine; but that's hardly an issue when it's in the title. I also looked into the playtesting and got some excellent responses about their reception to the community

It has my stamp of approval, though I just now realize I have no idea whether that stamp would be a paw print or a hoof...

In other news... my phone never should've worked in the first place (Verizon does not provide coverage to the phone I own that they have literally been providing coverage to for 1.5 years; it was a whole ordeal and a half having to figure this out and then explain it). And today I'm supposed to get a new phone and trade my old one in for credit...

But my old phone broke *today* so now I have to get it fixed and Verizon said they can't do anything and what they suggested I do is buy *another* new phone and trade *that one* in for store credit towards my actual new phone...
TIL you can buy a $100 phone and immediately trade it in for $600 store credit because... I have no idea why actually

NautArch

8:40 PM

@ThomasMarkov nah. I'm cool with multi-classing. Just not hexblade single level dips.

Anyways, my Botox is working and I haven't had a real migraine in a while.

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Medix2

8:54 PM

@ThomasMarkov Yeah I have no idea why I have a vote on that question and it didn't hammer. We both edited the tags after all...

Thomas Markov

@Medix2 Neither of us added the dnd-5e tag though

Medix2

Anyhow; I have to head to work very soon and have absolutely no means of contacting anybody for the next several hours...

Thomas Markov

MAybe you vtc'd for a different reason?

Medix2

Removed my response to your comment so it didn't muddy the new question

But if you'd like to leave the typical "Your question was closed yada yada yada" comment, that'd be awesome!

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Someone_Evil

9:04 PM

@Medix2 Your vote was for need details

AncientSwordRage

Reddit are having it out on 4e and I'm finding some of the arguments against it interesting

Not necessarily compelling, but still worth reading

> Longer answer is the community at the time looked at the massively revamped combat system and the mini combat figure series that went along with it as an attempt to skew the game to just be about chunky salsa. Martial classes were perceived as 'losing' their simplicity of run up and hit thing in favor of more grid focused maneuvers. Spell casters now always had access to a small selection of potent spells, instead of having to be a lot more mindful of them.

> The stronger emphesis on using a grid too also was a slight against the game for people - speaking as someone that started in 3.5 and went to 4 there was the perception that it lost all of the impact of 'theater of the mind' and made it too much like a war game. (WHich is amusing, all things considered).

Also some comments about too many books

Criticisms lower down don't seem as well thought out

Gwideon

9:22 PM

interesting

Mark Wells

@AncientSwordRage So far it seems to fall along the usual tribal lines: people who like 4e already know that it failed at being D&D and that's why they like it.

AncientSwordRage

@MarkWells that depends on what you consider D&D, I feel like it was what D&D should have become

maybe there's a timeline where 5e was an improvement on 4e, and not a return to 3e+?

Gwideon

I honestly don't find 4e overall systems to be too appealing. I like individual mechanics like minions and skill challenges so yeah.

kviiri

My stance, generally, is that DnD 4e excels at stuff that DnD in general does well, and is mainly bad at things that any edition is bad in... so yeah.

A lot of people see DnD as "the only RPG system" (or if they're generous, append "you'll ever need") and from that point of view it's somewhat understandable that the more focused experience of DnD 4e is a downgrade

Mark Wells

9:47 PM

@Gwideon In the hope that it may be more constructive than dragging a Reddit flamewar in here, what do you find useful about skill challenges?

Gwideon

@MarkWells makes it easier to conduct certain cinematic moments. I've used them before like for when the players were trying to escape the collapsing castle of a vampire lord.

Mark Wells

Please go on.

Gwideon

that's basically it really

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it's just easier for stuff like escapes and that sort of thing

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KorvinStarmast

10:38 PM

@AncientSwordRage I disagree. All it needs to be is a proper target when cast. but I can see the other view on that as well?

@Gwideon wait, she's a goddess and a landlord? (sorry, tenets is I think the word you were intending to use... walk into theology class and as "tenets, anyone?" ... )

Gwideon

11:33 PM

@KorvinStarmast yeah I meant to say tenets

AncientSwordRage

@KorvinStarmast I like the way powers work

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