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Thomas Markov

1:17 AM

This answer is unfortunately incorrect

What do we do with answers that are accepted, highly upvoted, and simply false?

Is there a meta for that?

BESW

3

Q: Is there a way to remove wrong answers?

Some questions can be answered objectively, so the answers are either right, or wrong. In this case 3 are wrong, and mine is right. The votes do not reflect this however, you have to read all answers carefully to realize this. I have downvoted all other answers, what else can I do?

discussion

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Q: What To Do When There Are No Right Answers, Only Wrong Ones

This question, about the fairness of a 7-sided die, troubles me. It is in my opinion well-thought out and well-formulated. It is asking if a particular die has had any sort of rigorous analysis (physics-based or statistics-based) performed to test its fairness. That is simple, direct, and if s...

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Q: How can I reward a good answer without driving more attention to the bad one?

I think the accepted and most upvoted answer is horribly wrong to a question. The why does not matter now. The third answer I find really great, and I wanted it to get some attention. So I placed a "bounty to reward existing answer", which had the opposite effect, it generated 4 upvotes for this...

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Q: How should we respond to fundamentally incorrect/bad answers?

This question exists because of this answer, and a discussion in chat that followed it. I'll get to that later. This question is about a unique category of answers on Stack Exchange: specious answers. Specious answers are incorrect and bad, yet look legitimate and good. By an incorrect/bad ans...

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Thomas Markov

1:43 AM

@BESW Thanks a bunch

Someone_Evil

2:19 AM

@ThomasMarkov Wait is it? Walk me through that would you (I'm assuming I'm being slow today)

Thomas Markov

2:50 AM

@Someone_Evil It very much sounded like they were saying that hitting wild magic enlarge twice in the same hour stacked since that wasn’t a spell.

After rereading the answer and the question a few times I figured it out.

I’ve edited the answer to clarify what it was trying to do.

It was correct before (my mistake misunderstanding) but was quite unclear, but should be clearly correct now.

If you downvoted my edit will have unlocked voting for you all

Mark Wells

3:14 AM

@ThomasMarkov Yes, that clears it up.

Hot RPG Questions

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Q: if you use Enhance Ability: Cat's Grace on a creature that rolls initiative, does that creature lose the better roll when the spell ends?

Let's say the caster uses Enhance Ability and chooses Cat's Grace on themselves and rolls a 13 and a 16 with advantage on initiative, so they take 16. If the caster then loses Enhance Ability in-combat, or ends concentration on that spell, does their initiative roll revert to 13?

dnd-5e spells

Hot RPG Questions

5:48 AM

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Q: What does a Deep Gnome home look like?

Are there any official descriptions of Deep Gnome (Svirfneblin) homes? I am making some research notes for how my magnificent mansion might look, and have searched for descriptions of a Deep Gnome home, but haven't managed to find any. Ideally I would like a wizard tower or upper class home, but ...

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V2Blast

11:58 AM

@HotRPGQuestions I like the rhyming

NautArch

12:18 PM

Weird. All of the down votes to those.cleric homebrew subclasses were removed

Wonder if serial voting was triggered?

Thomas Markov

1:01 PM

Definitely was.

I flagged for mod attention. Might even make a meta since it might require the attention of our overlords.

KorvinStarmast

@chaos broadly speaking, yes, but it can be otherwise if the PHB is to be taken as written

@chaos the precise answer is "magic" so I am not sure what you want out of that question

@ThomasMarkov write a correct answer

Thomas Markov

1:17 PM

@KorvinStarmast I edited the accepted answer to be more clear, it was actually correct, but it was woefully unclear (at least to me).

KorvinStarmast

@ThomasMarkov even better. 😊

Thomas Markov

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Q: Serial voting script reversed legitimate downvotes

The serial voting checker script has reversed legitimate downvotes on the following questions: Is this homebrew Music Domain balanced compared to the official domains? Is this homebrew Chaos domain balanced compared to the official subclasses? Is this homebrew Far Realms domain balanced compar...

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nbro

Maybe some of you are interested in this topic.

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Q: What are some books or state of the art papers about the development of a strong-AI?

I am looking for books or to state of the art papers about current the development trends for a strong-AI. Please, do not include opinions about the books, just refer the book with a brief description. To emphasize, I am not looking for books on applied AI (e.g. neural networks or the book by No...

reference-request papers agi state-of-the-art books

Someone_Evil

1:33 PM

@nbro I mean maybe, but am I missing something which would make it RPG related/useful?

The Oracle

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Q: Serial voting script reversed legitimate downvotes

The serial voting checker script has reversed legitimate downvotes on the following questions: Is this homebrew Music Domain balanced compared to the official domains? Is this homebrew Chaos domain balanced compared to the official subclasses? Is this homebrew Far Realms domain balanced compar...

discussion down-votes

Medix2

1:50 PM

@RevenantBacon I'm pretty sure you shouldn't edit closed questions with edits like that since it will put them in the review queue which they will not enter if the OP makes a meaningful edit

Someone_Evil

I think all of those questions have gone through reopen queue because of votes already do no harm there

Medix2

Ah, gotcha gotcha

nbro

@Someone_Evil My assumption was that people interested in games may be interested in stuff like AGIs

To be completely honest, I think this is a post that deserves more attention, that's why I shared it here too

Of course, it's not strictly related to RPG, but this is the type of people that may also be interested in this topic

doppelgreener

@RevenantBacon while that technically may circumvent the serial downvoting script, it's still not really a good idea. Like, generally speaking, working to circumvent anti-abuse measures in the system to otherwise do anyway the thing the anti-abuse measure would prevent you from doing is ... not a good move?

Someone_Evil

@nbro Ah, with you now. That might be good context to include when linking, to a layperson it looks very much like something that is just in-field and isn't a good onboarding. Though the AI-TRPG overlap is relatively slim anyhow

Thomas Markov

1:58 PM

@doppelgreener When an anti-abuse measure incorrectly targets legitimate use, its a problem with the anti-abuse measure, not the user.

Someone_Evil

Wasn't there an AI driven RPG project a little while ago? I seem to remember it lacking a little

nbro

@Someone_Evil You're right. There isn't a big overlap. But I'm also a gamer and I know that AI is also something that interests gamers

Medix2

At least to me, if the OP does fix the questions, the votes can easily be undone

doppelgreener

@ThomasMarkov i am nevertheless advising do not try to circumvent the anti-abuse measures

Medix2

But I suppose I haven't considered how 32+ downvotes would come across when the OP has seen what they feel are incredibly similar questions asked without receiving those downvotes

In the end, KRyan appeared, so I will refrain from mainsite commenting

Someone_Evil

2:02 PM

Wasn't the cantrip set orgininally asked as one and then split up? I don't remember if there were something about spacing them out, but we've certainly asked that on a few occations (when requestion a split up I believe)

Medix2

@Someone_Evil Yeah it was one blob at first but they split them all apart within minutes

doppelgreener

@TheOracle real nice to get downvotes for taking the time to answer this

Medix2

They also provided more information on the design process about features that are far less impactful so...

Someone_Evil

2:24 PM

→ 34 messages moved to Unvoted Cereal Something

doppelgreener

@Someone_Evil thank you

(A+ room title)

Someone_Evil

Cheers!

Thomas Markov

Resource/tool rec question?

RevenantBacon

@ThomasMarkov Probably, yes. I don't remember, do those count as off-topic?

Thomas Markov

Yes, off topic

Maybe the user will join us here.

RevenantBacon

2:43 PM

I can see them in the "who' in the room" sidebar

Someone_Evil

@user3825755 Was anything on this google search the kind of thing you had in mind?

Thomas Markov

I found this image that maybe what youre looking for @user3825755

user3825755

Thanks! both for the google search results and the suggestion! I am looking for something like the image you posted, ideally with numbers printed on it

MikeQ

You could use an image editor (MS Paint, paint.net, gimp, etc...) to add numbers to it.

user3825755

Or like shutterstock.com/image-vector/…

Yes, might need to do that

Thomas Markov

2:58 PM

Alternatively, if you really dont mind a real life photo I can provide you with one.

user3825755

If you have one at hand, that would be great. I had asked for a schematic picture with printing 200 exams in mind, but an actual picture might work as well

MikeQ

If you're printing, using a real photo (instead of a vector drawing) could require a lot of ink.

Thomas Markov

Ah, right.

Yeah, real photo is probably a bad idea.

Ive been a math teacher. Admin watched our copies like the NSA.

I see a @Rubiksmoose

Rubiksmoose

3:17 PM

That's weird... I don't see one anywhere

:)

RevenantBacon

@ThomasMarkov My mom does science. At her old school, there were actual fights over using the copier.

Fortunately, my dad has a home office, so she just uses his printer for any handouts she does

So apparently, there's been some guy just living undetected in a major airport for the last 3 months

doppelgreener

3:33 PM

there's been a movie about that

but, that's pretty impressive. undetected like they knew he was there but didn't realise he'd been living there?

Thomas Markov

3:55 PM

Goodness, look at the reopen review history.

RevenantBacon

LMAO wut

Am I the only one who goes through it, or what?

Thomas Markov

Wait what do you see?

RevenantBacon

I'm only seeing my own votes

Thomas Markov

Ah, seeing all reviews in the history is a 10k tool

RevenantBacon

AH

that makes sense.

Thomas Markov

4:00 PM

The entire first page (except a single entry at the bottom) is cleric homebrew leave closed.

49 "leave closed" votes on the cleric homebrews.

RevenantBacon

Makes sense, since there are 8 questions on it that got posted nearly simultaneously

It's weird that it's 49 though

doppelgreener

(left side would display names, which i've obscured here)

it's quite a spectacle for sure though

NautArch

4:42 PM

Is it not a good idea to add that a rule being cited in someone else's answer is optional?

Thomas Markov

@NautArch That's a tough sentence, rephrase?

NautArch

@ThomasMarkov If there is an answer that cites a rule, but the rule is optional, is it okay for another user to add that the rule is optional to the answer text?

Or leave it be if, say, I commented to do that and they didn't add it.

RevenantBacon

Like as a comment, or to directly edit the answer?

Thomas Markov

Ive got a better idea: instead of calling it optional, call it guidance.

NautArch

@RevenantBacon I'd like to directly edit their answer to clarify the rule is optional.

RevenantBacon

4:46 PM

I don't know that it would be wrong to do so. It should be made clear if a rule is optional so that future readers can identify thatthat's not the actual baseline rule

NautArch

that's kind of where I"m at, but I'm not sure it'll be received well.

RevenantBacon

I feel like leaving it as a comment first is probably better

If it was done to one of my answers, it wouldn't bother me, but I can certainly see it being irritating to someone else

Thomas Markov

I think editing should be fine.

NautArch

@RevenantBacon and if no response?

Comment has been up for a day or so.

I'll give them today and if nothing, i'll put it in tomorrow

RevenantBacon

Yeah, two days seems fair. If they don't like it, then they can revert and that's effectively a response

Thomas Markov

4:49 PM

I gave Dale M a week to edit his answer about booming blade before adding a header explaining that it was out of date.

See here

Someone_Evil

5:44 PM

2020: a year in closing; network wide data for question closing

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Q: How can a GM subtly guide characters into making campaign-specific character choices?

Note: the example I'm giving is D&D focussed, but the question is system-agnostic. We're in the early days of a new D&D group. If it keeps running, I'm planning to transition the players into Storm King's Thunder once they reach 5th level. Storm King's Thunder is an adventure that features a lot ...

character-creation optimization campaign-development character-advancement campaign

Thomas Markov

Only 48 duplicate closures?

That seems wrong.

Someone_Evil

5:59 PM

485 according to the CSV file

Thomas Markov

HA it was cutting off the 5

Oh my. Ive answered around 20% of all questions since June 1, 2020.

MikeQ

Only 80% more to go! Then you get a secret prize.

RevenantBacon

6:33 PM

@ThomasMarkov Well, that would explain why you hit the rep cap on an almost daily basis

Thomas Markov

7:05 PM

@RevenantBacon Only 9 days away from Legendary

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8:04 PM

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Q: Do the benefits of the Slasher Feat work against swarms?

I am curious whether the abilities granted from the Slasher feat from Tasha's Cauldron of Everything (p. 81) would work on swarms. More specifically, the second and third benefits: Once per turn when you hit a creature with an attack that deals slashing damage, you can reduce the speed of the t...

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Q: What does the term "svirfnebli" mean, and how is it different to "svirfneblin"?

A recent answer to a question has led me to obtain an e-book for The Dark Elf Trilogy by R. A. Salvatore. The section I am reading uses the word "svirfnebli" as well as "svirfneblin". However, I am unsure if it is a printing issue (or possibly a scanning issue) or an actual word, and I can't real...

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SmokeDetector

8:16 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer, messaging number in answer, pattern-matching email in answer (439): Too many magic rings and trinkets by nancy on rpg.SE (@Rubiksmoose)

Thomas Markov

@SmokeDetector Nice kill

MikeQ

9:27 PM

@SmokeDetector Finally, a debt-clearing miracle ring that doesn't require a blood sacrifice

Ben

10:43 PM

Murning all

Rykara

Howdy Ben

Ben

How's the weekend going

Rykara

Eh? It's monday!

Ben

Well, actually I guess no matter where you are in the world the weekend's done now isn't it lol

Rykara

I mean, it's a 3 day week for some in the USA. I guess. So half credit to ya ;-)

*3 day weekend

Hi Dopp

Thomas Markov

11:39 PM

I preordered Candlekeep Mysteries from my lgs this weekend.

BESW

11:49 PM

Gosh how is it Tuesday already.

Ben

@BESW [Something about lizards and the government]

BESW

@Ben Oh, BTW, no false hope but recently my brain started trying to find new angles for me to tackle Cardboard Monsters.

Ben

@BESW Oh that's exciting :D

BESW

This image maybe helped with how I'm thinking about the game and where I'm stumbling?

yesterday, by BESW

ben roswell wrote a twitter post codifying fiction/mechanic interactions in benefits and triggers.

Ben

Maybe you can be inspired by Godzilla V Kong :P

doppelgreener

11:54 PM

@Rykara o/

Ben

@BESW what exactly are you stumbling over?

BESW

The system has always been firmly mechanic->mechanic, and all the games I've ever tried to make within that limited paradigm fizzled out and died.

I'm used to shoveling in a good dose of "and then you get to do fiction" between mechanical bursts, as a way for the players to take control of the experience and mitigate any mechanical problems I've introduced.

Ben

Riiiight

Yeah I've noticed that. It kinda requires experienced RPers to do any RP

BESW

Also Cardboard Monsters is a card game and that's a kind of game I've got relatively little experience with as a player and most card games feel overwhelmingly complex when I try to play them.

Ben

Well, the previous iterations anyway lol

Yeah fair enough

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