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Kickstarter: Questlings - A Children's Book Series and RPG Adventure! by Dan Letzring. An RPG-inspired children's book series and RPG game system about finding your Inner Hero.

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@AncientSwordRage This one?

12:23 AM

@Ben could be worth it

@Ben yes

@BESW looks like the art alone is worth purchasing it for

@BESW that’s really cool! I wish I had the money to back that cause I want to support anyone who puts “children’s book” and “rpg” in the same context

Also I really love my local library today: it’s awesome, the teen librarian gave me some amazing book recommendations so now I have like three books to read that I would never have picked up before, and she also agreed with me that we can ban Tasha’s cauldron of everything from the library rpg group I run for the time being due to the fact that we know exactly who will be abusing the fact that I don’t have it

12:42 AM

I love that you have that support.

I’ve already started two of the books: Gifts by Ursula K. LeGuin, and Catfishing on CatNet by Naomi Kritzer. The last one i forget what it’s called, but it’s nonfiction and a guide for LGBTQ youth in high school

I love Ursula LeGuin

@BardicWizard ha! I run a rpg game at my local library too lol it can be stressful when everyone else is trying to beat the dm to new content

@TheDragonOfFlame One of the problems with books of random extra material like Tasha's is that it's not clear which groups need to care about them. Like, Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica can be largely ignored unless you're playing a campaign set in Ravnica. WoD-style splatbooks can be ignored if nobody is playing that kind of character. Who gets to ignore Tasha's?

(besides me)

I have a problem player who will be abusing the fact that I don’t have it to get away with doing things the rules don’t support or to keep changing stuff about his character, and a couple of people who would usually be fine but tend to build combat monsters that are really hard to challenge (despite the limited combat), so this is a precaution we’ve had to take for a while now, though it’s a bit frustrating for everyone involved

(and people who don't play D&D)

12:57 AM

It saddens me that such an antagonistic relationship between people at the table seems to be so "normal."

@MarkWells and my local library

@MarkWells technically, anyone. What it is is stuff for anyone, but it’s not needed (except the custom lineage stuff. That’s pretty big)

@BardicWizard since it is a library game, I assume you didn’t have any say in who played?

Like, they aren’t your freinds just random people

@BESW I’m not sure what you’re referring to in my case, but the player in question is a repeated abuser who’s been kicked a couple of times and will change his behavior for a few weeks then go right back to being a jerk.

Yeah, that "everyone else is trying to beat the dm to new content" thing is... in my experience, a symptom of an unhealthy table.

@TheDragonOfFlame we can kick after 3 strikes, and we have, but we’re not allowed to prevent people for coming since technically it’s a public thing

@BESW it’s 95% fine but it’s that 5% that isn’t that’s unhealthy

1:09 AM

@BardicWizard Yeah, that can be an issue. I've been pushing my local convention to adopt more specific protection policies than "We'll put your table by the security kiosk."

It’s all virtual which is a bit of a problem but also means we can effectively kick people now

@TheDragonOfFlame In a public setting I'm a little unsure how to deal with that. Suppose you show up with your custom lineage guy, and I invoke the Old Man Henderson Rule (your character can't be based on sources the rest of the group doesn't get to see). Am I breaking some kind of social contract?

(This is mostly hypothetical; in a game I'm running, we'd almost surely do character creation at the table.)

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So, my day started with a sever lack of sleep (boys waking up constantly, taking it in turns to manage them both), forgot to take my meds, then forgot to grab my wallet, requiring two trips back home, after dropping the boys off at school.

I then arrived at work on time (no idea how that worked out), and just finished writing a lengthy email with the caps lock on.

1:26 AM

@MarkWells General rule in my old D&D games: only use sources available to everyone.

I also had a couple games where the rule was "Any book you use to make your characters, is now available to me for making your opponents."

This was a lot more antagonistic than I'd do today, but it worked for that group because it was basically phrasing it as buy-in.

Q: How often can a relic's Raise Ramparts gift be used?

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Relics often allow the wearer to cast a spell, but do not specify how often. For example, the Raise Ramparts major gift of the Earth gifts allows the wearer to cast Wall of Stone. It does not specify a frequency, but if it has no limit it seems incredibly overpowered for a gift that can be handed...

@BESW If the books are setting material then this makes perfect sense. You're a ninja, so of course you might have ninjas for enemies, etc.

2:21 AM

@MarkWells Doesn't need a diegetic justification, I think, any more than using or not using a book like Sword & Fist would need justification in any other situation.

2:38 AM

@Ben shift+f3 sometimes cycles through case

@AncientSwordRage Oh yeah I had turned on caps lock intentionally, just forgot to turn it off for the email

lol

2:51 AM

@Ben ah no, I was unclear. In some word products if you highlight text, then press <kbd>shift+f3</kbd> it will lowercase/titlecase/uppercase stuff

Ohhh ok.

That would have been handy to know XD

And actually I think I do vaguely remember knowing that. I've just been so tired today lol

3:13 AM

@MarkWells well, no technically. You could force them to switch to Var Human (basically dumb down a few things, otherwise the same. But Custom Lineage is pretty simple and I wouldn’t see it being much of a problem

Q: Can the automatic damage from the Witch Bolt spell be repeatedly activated using an Order of Scribes wizard's Manifest Mind feature?

4:48 AM

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The Order of Scribes wizard sublass has the Manifest Mind feature (TCoE, p. 78), which creates a manifested spectral mind that can be moved by the wizard as a bonus action. Additionally, the wizard can cast spells through the spectral mind: Whenever you cast a wizard spell on your turn, you can ...

dnd-5e spells class-feature wizard spellcasting

Q: Can I use deflect missile if I get an ally to shoot me?

10:31 AM

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Considering it says "you can use your reaction to deflect or catch the missile when you are hit by a ranged weapon attack." If , for example, there's a wall a goblin is hiding behind. It's my Ranged Ally's turn and they can see me but can't see the goblin because it's behind the wall. Could my al...

dnd-5e monk

11:13 AM

@Ben that's fair, I think it's not longer in all of the office products though?

Carcer

11:23 AM

@HotRPGQuestions [monk railgun intensifies]

Q: Can you use the Eldritch Blast cantrip on the same turn as the UA Lurker in the Deep warlock's Grasp of the Deep feature?

11:44 AM

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The Lurker in the Deep warlock patron (from UA: Sorcerer and Warlock) gets the Grasp of the Deep feature at 1st level. Part of the feature description states: [...] As a bonus action, you create a 10-foot-long tentacle at a point you can see within 60 feet of you. [...] When you create the tenta...

dnd-5e class-feature warlock cantrips action-economy

12:14 PM

@Carcer it's a fun idea

Q: Can an Arcane Archer's choose to activate arcane shot after it gets deflected?

12:58 PM

So fun it inspired this:

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Inspired by Can I use deflect missile if I get an ally to shoot me? and Can a monk catch and throw an Arcane Archer's active Arcane Shot back at them with Deflect Missiles?, can a (friendly) Arcane Archer choose not to activate their Arcane Shot when it hits their ally, but then activate it when ...

dnd-5e class-feature monk fighter

1:12 PM

@ThomasMarkov That line of reasoning seems incredibly iffy to me.

Probably because the outcome is so obviously not intended.

Added how Id rule to my answer.

@ThomasMarkov it seems very odd that it's on hit with arrow, not on a successful attack. Probably not intended, but it seems very easy to avoid with better wording as well... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

That's my take as well.

I don't think it's safe to assume "could be worded better, so must be deliberate" is an argument for WotC anymore.

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The best/worst thing would be chain this up with multiple monks...

FWIW I tweeted at Jeremy Crawford, but I realise that's not going to change anything/much

2:17 PM

@AncientSwordRage Classic Wizards R&D

KorvinStarmast

2:32 PM

@AncientSwordRage This is the kind of question that strikes me as not just an edge case, but almost an absurdity. "OK, I want my ally to shoot me so that I can throw the arrow at someone else" - OK, answer me this: why is your ally not just shooting the enemy? I don't think it's fair to Wizards, for all of their clunky prose, to take them to task over this, since the 'problem' is a case of "let's over complicate this because it amuses us".

Granted, overcomplicating things on purpose is a kind of fun in RPGs. Done it plenty.

I think granting Wizard's any benefit of the doubt that this could be intentional is over estimating their collective intelligence.

KorvinStarmast

@ThomasMarkov That too. I find it hard to believe that they had a single monk ability in mind when writing the features for the fighter, and then left that combo as an easter egg for us to find Your comment nails this pretty well.

@AncientSwordRage Oh, I just read it again: trying to shoot around corners. Got it. See also Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser (Fritz Lieber) about 40 years ago. Fafhrd spent parts of one of their adventures trying to figure out how to shoot his bow+arrow around corners ...

3:37 PM

I could use some advice — does anyone know how to get dndbeyond to stop sending me emails all the time without deleting my account?

I assume you tried unsubscribing?

@BardicWizard Are there any DDB emails you do want to get?

@KorvinStarmast that was just a way to justify this... corner case

@BardicWizard wait, they email you?

@BardicWizard I am afraid I can't help. I unsubscribes to their email list and they still send me emails. Like 3 or 4 every week

Someone_Evil

@BardicWizard dndbeyond.com/account/notifications ?

3:43 PM

@RevenantBacon Only if they’re actually about security for my account. I don’t care about sales and whatever

@ThomasMarkov yes and it doesn’t work

@BardicWizard Well that ruins my idea. I was gonna just say mark it as spam

Well, mostly ruins

I dont think I get any emails from them at all...let me check my settings, maybe I can help you.

@Someone_Evil I just checked that; most of the boxes were checked. Guess that might be the problem

Depending on what email provider you use, you could theoretically set up a special filter to automatically pull all the ones about sales and mark them as spam, but leave the security ones alone

Im very confused. I have every single box checked for "notify me by email" and I dont think im getting any.

3:46 PM

@ThomasMarkov probably have a bad email setup then.

What service do you use, gmail?

@ThomasMarkov they only email people who don't want emails, obviously!

what better marketing strategy

I use gmail.

So apparently I got 2-3 per week consistently until Oct 15.

I havent received a single one since then.

@ThomasMarkov same

But my settings are set to receive all the emails.

WEIRD

@ThomasMarkov didn't you get the 4 emails about cyber monday this weekend

3:49 PM

@TheDragonOfFlame Oct 15 too?

@ThomasMarkov nope same about gmail. I still get a bunch of emails

Oh.

I get 1-2 month, but I've literally never noticed

This seems like a pretty big blunder in Tasha's

@Someone_Evil They have two places to manage emails, one in your account, which is for forum related emails, and another (linked from the unsubscribe/manage email preferences) at the bottom of marketing emails they send you (which they seem to automatically opt you in for at account creation)

I've just opted out of the marketing ones

But some of the forum ones are somewhat obnoxious (such as automatically subscribing you to every thread you post in if you don't have it checked)

For subscribed threads/forums, go here: dndbeyond.com/account/subscriptions

3:54 PM

@ThomasMarkov thats weird

and you can unsubscribe from any thread/forum you are subscribed to

@ThomasMarkov I love typo hunting! Sadly I don't have the hard copy book yet, so I haven't been able to yet

Someone_Evil

@illustro Yeah, just found that. The marketing one seems to be four seperate options, so might require seperate unsubscriptions from each?

If going through the options menu for marketing emails (also at the bottom of those emails) doesn't work, contact their support

@Someone_Evil You can opt out of each, or just unsubscribe from all (either option should work)

I went on gmail this morning to see I had 15 new emails. 4 of them where dndbeyond and the rest where google alerts lol

Someone_Evil

3:56 PM

"Should" being the operative word

Though, then again I'm talking about it from the experience of an EU user (with all of the fun GDPR fines might bring as a result of unsolicited marketing emails)

Milage may vary in other jurisdictions with...ahem...less restrictive or threatening regulations

@illustro lol

@ThomasMarkov It looks like a typo in the stat block, comparing with all of the other "Summon X" style spells in Tasha's (I have the printed book open beside me)

@TheDragonOfFlame I only want to get three types of email on my personal account (school is a different story): email from the two people I know who still use email, the four mailing lists I signed up for and still want to be on, and security notifications. Dndbeyond emails are easily 3/4 of my emails and I don’t want to get them at all unless it’s a security thing argh

I imagine that +15 above 3rd is meant to be +15 above 4th

@BardicWizard Make sure you are unsubscribed from any threads you may have been subscribed to by posting on dndbeyond's forums

dndbeyond.com/account/subscriptions

4:03 PM

@illustro I don’t post on the forums but I’ll do that

@BardicWizard dude same. By google alerts I mean either google classroom telling me I ave a class tomorow or saying I signed into a new device when I already know that

4:18 PM

@ThomasMarkov I'm sure it'll be fixed in the first errata

Maybe theyll fix fighters taking weapon master too.

@ThomasMarkov hopefully

that one made me laugh tbh. Like, did they even read it?

@BardicWizard What about order confirmations from stuff like amazon?

@ThomasMarkov This is Wizards R&D we're talking about here. I wouldn't get my hopes up.

4:51 PM

@RevenantBacon If I need to buy something online my parents generally order it, even if I pay for it out of my allowance, so that’s not necessary for me for now

@BardicWizard I always forget that you're only 17-18ish

@RevenantBacon I'm pretty sure they are even younger than that... could be wrong

I thought they were in senior year high school, but may also be wrong

I’m a sophomore

@ThomasMarkov far to op to combine those two