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12:25 AM
@Medix2 I’m not following. The meta post probably should have been made two closures ago. I present a case based on how I see the current state of affairs, which as you may observe, is somewhat different from the state of affairs I tried to create through various moderation actions. I didn’t create any evidence; myself, Naut, Purple, V2, Doppel, GcL, and Darth’s actions led to the current state of affairs, and I evaluated the results based on established criteria for what makes a duplicate.
My preference would have been explicitly narrowing the scope of the old question to be consistent with what it had implicitly been all along and leaving the new question as a stand-alone question in its own right. But it’s neither here nor there, we have to work with what we’ve got now, and what we’ve got now is a duplicate question.
 
We have 5 hot meta posts?
I didn't think that list went up to five.
 
It does if there's nothing featured
 
Time to feature something banal, buddy. Bring down that temperature =)
 
We have 5 hot meta posts occasionally, they just aren't shown at the same time that often
 
My meta shakes bring all the boys to the yard?
 
12:42 AM
@ThomasMarkov I just think some of you answer is using evidence you yourself created... I don't know how else to explain that
You use the fact that the general case already has an answer addressing the sub-case as evidence that they are duplicates. But whether or not answers to the general case should have addressed the sub-case at all was never asked or covered
Maybe I'm not making any sense, or am simply in the wrong here; but it feels weird/off to me
 
1:08 AM
@Medix2 I responded to your meta comment. I think you’re misunderstanding the role I’ve played here.
 
Ah, it seems I did; comments (and confusion) removed
 
To be clear, I don’t like that I think the question should closed as a dupe.
I’m just trying to be impartial in evaluating how things are right now.
 
Ben
1:25 AM
hi.wav
How is everyone today
 
pretty good today
XD
 
Ben
Nice :D always good to hear
 
just trying not to ruin it by thinking of all the reasons it shouldn't be
 
Ben
That's.... a bit existential
 
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Q: When is a Scimitar better than a Longsword?

ESCEThe longsword deals 1d8 slashing or piercing damage. The scimitar deals 1d6 slashing damage with the forceful and sweep traits. At first glance, it seems that the scimitar might break even for damage with the longsword only when there's a reasonable chance of hitting a third or more attack in a t...

 
1:30 AM
@Ben not dead, but I have enough work that it’s close
 
@Ben I'm a,... wildly existential person XD
 
Ben
@BardicWizard Is it the same load, or just more?
 
@Ben I put off an extended paragraph for like a week and it’s due tomorrow so that’s added to the math homework I barely understand, the Spanish homework I don’t want to do, and the choir homework that I don’t feel like singing
 
@Adeptus Well, that's a start :)
 
Ben
1:35 AM
@trogdor Well that was an interesting thought... Nihilism is the opposite of existentialism. Another word/phrase for nihilism is "navel gazing"; which I, and my sister do a lot. For christmas (as a gag gift) I bought her a hand mirror to "gaze at her navel with ease"
So if you're an existentialist, would you need a magnifying glass?
 
I mean, I don't know if I ascribe to an existentialist philosophy, but I think about existential things a lot
XD
 
I exist. So that's what I contribute.
 
Ben
@BardicWizard Sounds like you need to get in the right mindset, and my best advice would be to break your current one.
@Rubiksmoose Rene Descartes is drinking at a bar. The bartender asks if he would like a refill. Rene replies "I think not!" and then ceases to exist.
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Moral of the story: never refuse a drink?
;-)
 
although
 
Ben
1:40 AM
@BardicWizard Can you go for a walk? Or spend some time outside?
 
@HotRPGQuestions When harvesting crops
 
just from the google definition I might actually say I do subscribe to existentialism XD
I mean I wouldn't say that's the only factor,... as long as it's not exclusive XD
 
Ben
@Rubiksmoose clearing any kind of foliage really. That was my thought lol
 
Apr 29 '19 at 20:54, by BESW
> Heisenberg is driving Schrödinger and Ohm down the highway when a cop pulls him over for speeding.
Cop: "Do you know how fast you were going?"
Heisenberg: "No, but I can tell you exactly where we are."
Well, the cop finds that sort of suspicious so he decides to look in the truck.
"...did you know you have a dead cat in here?"
Schrödinger throws his hands in the air. "I do now!"
After more lip of this sort, the cop decides to take them all down to the station, but Ohm resists.
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lol
 
1:49 AM
lol
 
@Ben probably later
it’s my own d*rn fault for putting it off all week though
 
Ben
@BardicWizard I find it helpful to get a change of scenery, to snap myself out of my current mood/mindset (e.g. "Ugh I have too much work) and establish a better one ("If I knuckle down, it'll be hard and frustrating, but I'll get it done.")
 
GcL
On the upside, it's homework and has a known good result. If you can get it or not is generally up to you.
 
Ben
You can also add "Screw it if it's wrong", if/when applicable.
 
GcL
And liberal quantities of bullshit and padding are useful in academic settings.
 
Ben
1:54 AM
I once attempted to calculate the algorthms of sin cos and tan (trigonometry) because my scientific calculator wasn't working.
It did not go well
But screw it, I tried. I explained to the teacher and they gave me half marks cos at least I thought about it.
 
GcL
Did you have an old school book with those tables in the back? Mine had some abbreviated lookup tables in the back. Funnily, now I have an entire 200 page book of those as piece of decor.
 
Ben
@GcL I couldn't say. Lol. This was also during an end-of-year exam, so I wasn't allowed the textbook haha
 
@Ben that happened to me last year (not during a test though)! I used a slide rule to calculate it instead
 
Ben
@GcL On a separate note, your presence reminded me that I think I'm happy with where my Corruption system is at.
Just needs some playtesting and some potential balancing.
Oh and I need to reword the Afflictions. I've suggested that minors are flavor text/RP inspiration, and major are only minor mechanical changes, which don't match up to the examples I've prvided.
@BardicWizard Math is funnily enough almost second nature to me - it's systematic and logical, and I hate it so I avoid it at all costs. Linguistics on the other hand is the exact opposite. XD
 
 
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3:08 AM
@NautArch sorry a bit late to the reply, but this is 5e
My DM let me treat certain wildshape attacks as monk strikes in return for not being able to actually wildshape.
 
3:58 AM
@RevenantBacon My Warlock does exactly that, and she also cleans her clothes and shines her boots that way. :)
 
GcL
4:09 AM
@Yuuki What do you mean not actually wildshape? I let a player do the kung-fu panda moon druid/monk thing once. Never again.
 
@GcL As in I don't physically change form and I don't get any movement speed, change hit points, or anything that comes with wildshape except for access to their specific attacks.
 
GcL
4:46 AM
Seems like an animal hex blade kind of thing
 
Ben
@GcL I had a fighter that got wildshaped into a gorilla. He loved it so much he refused to change back.
The fact that he was also a redhead might have had something to do with that.
 
5:21 AM
@GcL That's pretty apt, I suppose.
 
 
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8:07 AM
@GcL seems like an awesome kind of thing
@Ben I'm anticipating today being crazy
 
 
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9:29 AM
rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/176752/… is making me think of an asimov short story
 
10:03 AM
@AncientSwordRage I know the one you mean I think
"Runaround" is a science fiction short story by American writer Isaac Asimov, featuring his recurring characters Powell and Donovan. It was written in October 1941 and first published in the March 1942 issue of Astounding Science Fiction. It appears in the collections I, Robot (1950), The Complete Robot (1982), and Robot Visions (1990). "Runaround" features the first explicit appearance of the Three Laws of Robotics, which had previously only been implied in Asimov's robot stories. Artificial intelligence researcher Marvin Minsky said: "After 'Runaround' appeared in the March 1942 issue o...
what with the robot endlessly circling the selenium pool
 
10:39 AM
I recently found out a bit more about William Clayton’s editorship of Astounding Stories and Super Science, and it really helped me understand the popularity of Asimov’s dry thought-experiment brand of science fiction as part of a backlash to Clayton’s complete disgust for any scientific elements in his fiction at all.
 
11:14 AM
@Carcer yeah that's the Badger
@BESW Dry, but I kind of like it
 
 
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12:19 PM
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howdy!
 
12:37 PM
@ThomasMarkov I'm not sure, but it seems like both meta answers about "what to do" seem to suggest closure. But no one is voting :/
 
@Someone_Evil yessir
unless i'm misreading yours
which i may be
 
12:53 PM
I weren't trying to suggest any action for the specific main site question. We can leave that to the specific meta. And I'd give the specific a bit more time to mature before acting on it, but sufficient maturity is not a fixed value
 
@Someone_Evil Yeah, I agree.
Just seemed like your notes on what to do is exactly what happened (minus the communication)
 
Yeah, mostly. Part of what I wanted to get across was that whether the specific should be covered by the general is a decision we make (decide versus discern). If we don't communicate that (because we don't recognize it, haven't got the theory or terms for it, or whatever reasons), things get messy. And it's much easier to start working on the problems (if any) once you've disentangled them
 
WHich was why I posted my comment on why I was closing, but a lot ofthis was also changing of minds and lack of other communication across both questions.
 
1:15 PM
Yeah, as far as I can see it's a case with slightly more than normal going on, but where the discussion around it didn't happen in comments so they're obvious and then it looks messier than it really was
On the other hand, I got to handle my first ContestedDupe autoflag, so check that off the list :)
 
@ThomasMarkov ahoy
 
@Someone_Evil although the final close/reopen did have a comment. Just a shame that reopen happened outside of meta, even though you had requested that to stop.
 
That question about Magic Initiate has been quite the wild ride hasn't it?
 
1:31 PM
@RevenantBacon get me off!
 
@NautArch I want off Mr Bones' Wild Ride?
 
had to look that up
 
1:49 PM
@NautArch hah, I was sure you'd be referencing it
accidental memeing
 
So in unrelated news, this wikipedia article is super interesting
 
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Q: If a flying creature with no swim speed ends up in water, can it fly out?

TantelopeAssuming there is no magic holding it aloft and it doesn't have the ability to hover, when a flying creature is knocked prone, it falls. What happens if the creature was flying over a body of water? Can it effectively use its movement to "stand up" on its next turn and resume flying, or does it e...

 
@RevenantBacon We've got a lot of fox activity right now around here
 
2:18 PM
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2:32 PM
@HotRPGQuestions great answer
 
2:46 PM
@SmokeDetector LMAO
Instagram marketing
 
3:12 PM
@RedRiderX Have you had issues with FoundryVTT grid lines?
 
New answer to an old question that only had a crawford tweet answer:
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A: Does the Eldritch Knight's Eldritch Strike feature impose disadvantage on a saving throw against a spell cast before the attack?

Thomas MarkovYes. The conditions for the target having disadvantage on the next saving throw are spelled out in the Eldritch Strike feature description: you hit a creature with a weapon attack the spell triggering the saving throw was cast before the end of your next turn. Naturally, a spell cast before you...

 
@KorvinStarmast Which answer are you bountying?
 
3:45 PM
@ThomasMarkov These are the kind of loopholes I live for :p
 
Isnt really a loophole I dont think
Loop holes are unintended consequences, this doesnt seem unintended at all.
 
@NautArch aaah, wait a sec, let me check.
 
@ThomasMarkov isn't this asking if they get caught by hold person, fail the save. Then the EK hits and gives disadvantage on saving throws, does that apply to all the subsequent saving throws?
> At the end of each of its turns, the target can make another Wisdom saving throw. On a success, the spell ends on the target.
another Wisdom saving throw
 
@NautArch mxy's. When I read through it the other day I really liked it.
 
3:54 PM
@KorvinStarmast did you remove the bounty?
 
@NautArch I just awarded it, I think.
 
@ThomasMarkov that doesn't seem to jive with
> before the end of your next turn.
 
@KorvinStarmast ah. It'd be neat to see questionst that have awarded bounties
 
In the EK ability
 
Im not following
 
3:55 PM
Me neither
 
@NautArch might be a searchable thing ... hmmm....
 
Is the save made before the end of your next turn?
 
You cast the spell before the attack, the saving throw is not from a spell cast after the attack
 
...so?
The spell was cast before the end of your next turn
 
I guess I've been reading it as immediately before
I dunno, it feels weird
 
3:59 PM
The only condition is "before the end of your next turn."
Doesnt say anything about the spell having to have been cast after the attack.
 
So, say you cast Glyph of Warding, and then 10 years later you attack someone and they set off the GoW...?
@ThomasMarkov it feels implied, but the wording doesn't strictly support my feelings
 
Yeah.
Well, not with this ability, no.
"Before the end of your next turn" is six seconds from now, not 10 years.
 
@ThomasMarkov Pretty sure the intended use case is: Swing sword, then do spell next turn (or as bonus action), rather than: cast spell, then beat on to prevent from saving vs that spell
 
@ThomasMarkov ok, what if you attack them 10 years after the original spell is cast?
 
Are they still making saves against the spell 10 years later?
 
4:02 PM
@ThomasMarkov gylph exists until dispelled or triggered
 
Yeah.
I dont get whats weird about that
"My attack makes you weaker to magic, now here's some magic"
why does it matter that its old magic?
A fireball glyph is a fireball glyph tomorrow and 1000 years from now.
There is no "Best if used by" date on it
 
The magic is a preexisting condition so it's not covered
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@ThomasMarkov it just feels weird that the spell and attack aren't temporaneously linked, but the attack and save are
 
I've been had.
Narratively, what do you think the attack does?
My understanding is that it makes you temporarily more susceptible to magical effects.
 
@ThomasMarkov makes you susceptible to a spell, like a one-two combo piece
@ThomasMarkov but only the EKs spells
If it was any spell I'd buy your narrative
 
4:05 PM
Yeah, and narratively, why would that susceptibility care when I cast the spell?
 
@ThomasMarkov because you probably aren't selecting the 1000 year old Glyph of warding
I know selection doesn't come into it as written
 
Ignore the 1000 year old glyph lol
 
I dunno the best I can say is that it feels weird and that's it
 
Hold person six seconds ago - Im still concentrating, channeling that magical energy into the target.
 
@ThomasMarkov because the spell and attack feel linked, not the attack and save
 
4:07 PM
This feels a bit like the Shield Master bonus action thing @ThomasMarkov @AncientSwordRage
 
@NautArch the what who now?
 
@AncientSwordRage Shield master requiring you to take the attack action and attack prior to using your BOnus Action shove.
And many who feel no need for that requirement and allow the BA to happen before the attack (as long as the attack happens)
 
Sounds like a 'delayed trigger'
 
It could make a difference because the bonus shove can knock the target prone. If that's done before the "Attack action" attack, then that could give advantage on the attack roll.
 
Anyway, it sounds more convincing that @ThomasMarkov is correct, and I just dislike the official wording
 
4:17 PM
@MikeQ yes, and that's much more fun!
The image of someone running and knocking an enemy down with their shield before attacking is much better than someone running in, attacking, and then knocking them down.
 
Oh. Huh. Actually the wording is fortunately ambiguous.
> If you take the Attack action on your turn, you can use a bonus action to try to shove a creature within 5 feet of you with your shield.
Once you "declare" the Attack action, you can resolve the actual attack rolls anytime on your turn, right? So... forget what I said earlier, a character with this feat could definitely use the shove before their first attack.
 
@MikeQ I don't know if channeling your inner Foghorn Leghorn and saying "I declare" is enough.
 
I say I say I do declare!
 
user15026
4:42 PM
@MikeQ I totally heard that in his voice, good job
 
Yes I am a very talented text-based voice impersonator
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can confirm ^^
 
5:09 PM
@Medix2 why did you delete?
 
5:32 PM
@ThomasMarkov Kinda just got tired... Your answer seemed best anyway
 
5:43 PM
5
Q: Can a frightened creature freely circle the source of its fear?

WakiNadiVellirA frightened creature A is standing horizontally or vertically next to the source of its fear B. The creature can't willingly move closer to the source of its fear. Can A freely circle B, for example to flank them or to attack another of its enemies, or to pass them with impunity in a 10' hall...

 
I can't believe we had two independent questions asking if they can take different versions of Spell Sniper to double their range repeatedly. Every time I see something like this I'm tempted to stick a tag on it.
 
@Medix2 @MarkWells Not sure that's a duplicate.
That question was really about a dndbeyond issue, not a general question on taking feats more than once.
I think I added the actual dupe
 
GcL
@MarkWells Some players enjoy finding and mucking about with edge and corner cases.
 
@GcL tag:cheaters
:P
 
Fun fact for anyone who wants to tweak falling damage in their game: Human terminal velocity is about 120 MPH(flat fall, arms out) to 180 MPH(head first, arms in), which translates to 176-264 feet/second or 1,056-1,584 feet per round, and takes about 12 seconds to reach from rest. In the first 6 seconds, you'll be fall around 400 feet
 
5:56 PM
@NautArch I do think the second question answers the first effectively
 
@Medix2 duplicate answers aren't duplicate questions :)
And the answer is mostly rooted in dndbeyond's bug.
not a gneral question about stacking, but anywho, I duped another that's pretty clear in my mind
 
@NautArch The latter is not though?
 
@Medix2 huh? Duplicate questions are always duplicate questions.
 
The "Can you take the same feat multiple times?" Question
 
@Medix2 That is this question no?
 
5:58 PM
No?
 
okay, then we should undupe
 
No??
 
GcL
@Yuuki Reminds me of an old Foo Fighters music video where the protagonist has nunchuks, and then is like, "why would I use nunchuks when I've got these giant hands!"
 
I think I'm getting confused
 
I read "multiple version stack?" as "can i take the same feat more than once?"
Your original dupe question is a specific question about that feat and dndbeyond.
 
5:58 PM
IMO "Do different versions of the same feats stack in 5th edition?" is a dupe of "Can you take the same feat multiple times?"
 
OKay, we agree on that. I thought you were sayig you didn't think it was a duplicate.
 
I also think the D&D Beyond question is helpful as I imagine that is why the OP believes there are multiple Spell Sniper feats
 
GcL
@NautArch I thought you were going to try, mark as dupe, comment on every answer of referred question asking to address the specific case, edit question to update timestamp, and possibly add bounty if you're feeling helpful.
 
@Medix2 yeah, it's definitely helpful.
 
GcL
Because I kinda want to see that work.
 
6:00 PM
Oh! You added the second dupe, wow. I tried to do the same thing
 
@GcL If I needed to , I would have.
I have done it before, and goshdarnit, I'll do it again.
 
GcL
Well, it hasn't been done one yet.
 
Can't tell if snark or not, so i'm just gonna move on.
I totally want to see this push over a chasm try to happen and have them roll 1.
 
Answering two different versions of the same stackexchange question will result in an answer that is doubly correct. The answers stack together, hence the name.
 
GcL
@NautArch I think it would revitalize old, yet relevant questions. Kind of like the central upwelling of bubbles in a freshly poured glass of Guinness.
 
6:04 PM
I'm not following that conversation but the one @Medix2 hammered is definitely a dupe.
 
I'm still staring at this Meta question but don't wanna open the worm can of one question per question edge-cases :(
 
@Medix2 I'm pretty sure the answer is don't touch it if it's not currently an issue.
It's 6 years old, why start messing around for no reason?
 
@NautArch I expanded my answer to deal with the difference between PCs and NPCs.
 
i mean, I'm nearly 100% sure all PCs are humanoid, but I don't konw if it's been explicitly stated and I don't own the Ravnica hardcover to see what's in there vs dndbeyond.
This could be another dndbeyond issue.
 
@NautArch Yeah I've heard that a lot. The whole "It doesn't matter if old questions match how we would treat them were they asked today"
 
6:12 PM
@Medix2 Right, if there becomes an issue, then we deal with it.
There are more than enough current issues to deal with without going 6 years back looking for more.
 
@NautArch I wish I could just write that as an answer XD
 
@NautArch Are minotaurs humanoid? ish?
 
@MikeQ This line of logic is dubious at best :p
 
Core is loxodon, minotaur, human, elf, centaur, simic hybrid and goblin.
Oh and vedalken.
 
@NautArch Centaurs and Satyrs are fey
 
6:16 PM
@Someone_Evil PC centaurs and satyrs?
 
Yeah, Ravnica and Theros
 
@Someone_Evil Ugh. As my son's latest books say: "typical"
does the hardcover have the minotaur creature type?
 
Best part is that centaur PCs are fey and centaur monsters are monstrosities
 
@NautArch Yes?
 
@NautArch Which hardcover have what type?
 
6:18 PM
@Someone_Evil and? I see no issues
 
GcL
Player characters get handled differently. That's been the case for a long time, no? I recall 3.5 playable monster rules did similar edge case handling things.
Does PF have rules for playable monsters?
 
The PC centaur is a a medium fey, the NPC centaur is a large monstrosity
 
@Someone_Evil Do the ravnica/Theros books state what type of creature the minotaur is (humanoid, fey, etc)?
 
@GcL Yes but much like the other variant rules in PF1E they were inconsistent and badly unbalanced
 
GcL
@MikeQ So no centaur tower?
 
6:21 PM
@GcL No the cen-tower is no longer feasible using the published option
 
@NautArch They're just humanoid (they have no exception to make them anything else)
 
GcL
@MikeQ I recall the 3.5 ones being the same. Great at low level, but didn't match up in late-mid tier play and were woefully behind prestige classes in late game.
 
I just added another argument to my answer that tey are humanoid.
> I can discern my PC's creature type without the Monster Manual.
 
@ThomasMarkov Oooh big +1 there
 
GcL
How discerning are you about creature type anyway? /S
 
6:23 PM
@Someone_Evil hmmm. Now I wonder if there's a general statement in the PHB about all PC races are humanoid or something.
It looks like it's an implicit assumption
 
> Every character belongs to a race, one of the many
intelligent humanoid species in the D&D world (PHB 11)
 
^^@ThomasMarkov
 
GcL
I'm going to brew up a creature type, adorable monstrosity. Base it on Stitch... or maybe a pet cat. WIS save to avoid the urge to "pet the belly".
 
Every character belongs to a race, one of the many intelligent humanoid species in the D&D world.
BOOM
 
That's the general rule. Specific would override that if it's stated.
 
6:24 PM
But... The PHB can't account for future books?
 
GcL
@Medix2 I thought that's what augury was in there for.
 
So I don't know if applying that line to races from future books is entirely feasible
 
@Medix2 Specific beats general.
 
GcL
Someone should press charges against Specific.
 
I'm unsure it's a general though
 
6:25 PM
The races that deviate have specific rules that trump this.
 
That's true. But that just sounds like "Minotaur doesn't specifically say it's not humanoid" which you already argued?
Hmm, I suppose there's the angle of "This line from the PHB allows us to conclude that all races, from any books ever, are humanoids. This is the very rule Centaur and Satyr specifically override which Minotaur does not"
 
GcL
Having PCs be non-humanoid does muck with the balance a bit as the lower level effects, such as hold person, can't target them. If you're playing that they're not humanoid, one would have to account for this.
A creature can have more than one type? E.g. fey, humanoid ?
 
@GcL from UA...yes
 
I believe the answer is no (besides UA)
 
GcL
Shapechangers might have multiple types.
Lemme check!
 
6:29 PM
@GcL theyre usually just shapeshifters
 
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Q: Are there any creatures that have more than one "creature type"?

SenmurvI was wondering whether in the official published materials, or in Unearthed Arcana, there are any creatures that have multiple types (for instance, creatures that in their description it says they are both Fey and Beast). I appreciate any examples of such creatures - or, if none exist, confirma...

 
@GcL Being a non-humanoid PC also means that many useful spells can't benefit them either.
 
GcL
@MikeQ Do many of the buff spells require humanoid as a target? or just creature?
 
A makeshift, small, incomplete list of spells with the word humanoid
 
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Q: What are the mechanical consequences of a Centaur's Fey trait?

NathanSCentaurs have the Fey trait (Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica, pg. 16): Fey. Your creature type is fey, rather than humanoid. What does this mean in terms of gameplay? I know that certain spells, such as hold person, require a humanoid target, so a centaur wouldn't be affected by that spell. ...

 
6:33 PM
HORNS AND HOOVES
Minotaurs are barrel-chested humanoids with heads resembling those of bulls.
 
@JohnP Unfortunately, other non-humanoids have the same language :/
 
@JohnP Yeah, it's just unclear whether that really means humanoid :(
 
Maybe...we need another word for humanoid?
 
We have a question for that :p
 
@MikeQ So essentially two buffs worth having, judging by the list given?
 
6:34 PM
@Someone_Evil :D
 
@vicky_molokh-unsilenceMonica They'd lose out on humanoid-only buffs, and would also be subject to effects that target fey. Protection from Evil and Good, Hallow, etc. The linked question above has more details.
 
GcL
A couple of items too. I recall some things need a humanoid to attune them.
 
To make it less human-centric, we can consider the cases of "goblinoid", "elvenoid", "dwarvenoid", "bovinoid" (for minotaur-like creatures), etc. This all generalizes nicely to...
 
GcL
@MarkWells That seems fairer to all the non-humans that play D&D /S
 
We're all noids here.
 
GcL
6:41 PM
I know a dog that has rolled straight 20's on "are you a good boy?" checks for the past four years.
 
My answer is significantly longer than when it started.
 
GcL
That's a consequence of typing in general, no? /S
 
Not always, answers are often only moderately longer than when they start.
 
I take it D&D Beyond doesn't help?
 
No.
> Minotaurs may be big, hairy, and terrifying. But even Minotaurs are people who want to be held sometimes. Thomas casts hold person.
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6:52 PM
@ThomasMarkov Your steel wind strike answer is interesting... Kinda funny that what your answer assumes the other answers anti-assumes
 
@Medix2 Thanks, for the comment, what you just said gave me an idea for improving my answer there.
 
Since you say "you have to be within 5 feet of the target to make a melee attack" and the other says "You can make the 'melee' attack because the spell says you can, regardless of distance"
So I'm wondering if there are other example of "ranged" melee attacks ...
 
spiritual weapon?
 
Yeah, though that's... Particularly weird
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Q: What is the attacker for Spiritual Weapon? The caster or the weapon?

GcLBackground This question was prompted by this question about the relation to the rogue's uncanny dodge feature and being able to see the attacker when spiritual weapon is used. Question When a creature is subject to the magic melee attack of spiritual weapon what is considered to be the attack...

 
@Someone_Evil youre making my answer even better by mentioning spiritual weapon.
 
6:56 PM
@Medix2 Would thorn whip count? Melee spell attack. Range 30 ft.
 
@MikeQ Thank you!
 
Oh, also Bigby's Hand involves melee spell attacks at a range. I'd include Mordenkainen's Sword but nobody uses it.
 
@ThomasMarkov Huh, wow, if anything I'd have though that spell made your answer worse. I'm intrigued now
@MikeQ Though in that case the hand does the attacking
 
My concern is that there exists a spell that consistently applying my argument screws up.
But we shall see.
 
Is thorn whip's specific clause the range?
 
7:06 PM
thorn whip has been my undoing.
 
Oh! I may have evidence that helps you
 
Booming blade
 
Thorn whip looks like it might prove me wrong here.
I dont see how that helps me.
 
I think you could argue that it having a range of 30 makes it an exception
Though .. I think steel wind does too ..
 
7:08 PM
Yeah.
 
But I'll go find the BB question
Well... The search crashed :(
Or my Wi-Fi and cellular data have both decided to stop working XD
 
Search has been a bit unstable across the network for a while now. Something about botnet attacks
 
@Someone_Evil I'd argue that, like Bigby's, or a Pact of the Chain familiar, that's the weapon making an attack on the caster's command.
 
@Someone_Evil It's all the meta activity, isn't it?
 
Hmm perhaps it doesn't help
I had thought that since increasing the range of BB doesn't do anything unless you also increase your reach, you could do something. But that's likely an artifact of the spell requiring a melee attack with a weapon
 
7:15 PM
@NautArch Context on MSE if you're interested
 
@Someone_Evil interesting the focus on /jobs
 
Okay, I assigned my bounty on this question, recommence closing it if you guys want.
 
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Q: Does the Spell Sniper feat double the range of booming blade when you are not wielding a reach weapon?

Yuval AmirWhen using a weapon without reach, does the range of booming blade still double if you have spell sniper?

 
@ThomasMarkov I'm not sure what close reason fits "problematic question" :(
 
@Medix2 I closed for 'needs details". They are not clear as to what would be an acceptable answer.
 
7:18 PM
@Someone_Evil Yeah exactly. But I don't think it helps with Thomas's answer here, unfortunately :(
@NautArch Well, I certainly know what answer they would accept XD
 
@Medix2 whatever could you mean?
 
@NautArch "Correct answers will agree with my outlandish reading of the rule"
 
Thanks Cap'n.
I'd almost prefer they ask their actual question: Is (1) a valid reading?
I think that's what they really want to ask.
 
@NautArch I concur.
 
I'm not going to ask them that, but I'm pretty sure that's the real question.
 
7:38 PM
I accidentally told a friend I was a tomato today, for some reason involving trying to form a sentence in Spanish when I wasn’t thinking, and now I have been dubbed the Game Masher instead of the Game Master
 
@BardicWizard I once tried to explain in spanish that I preferred my steak medium rare. What I actually said was something like "I like to eat meat soaked in the blood of the hood".
 
GcL
@BardicWizard Seems good to me.
 
@ThomasMarkov That sounds like a good dinner
 
@NautArch In that question about spell sniper
Ive used eldritch blast from over 1000 feet away.
 
@Medix2 Off topic. Questions are on topic; extended rants about "RAW" and preemptive complaints about our tone aren't.
 
7:46 PM
@MarkWells Also a valid critique.
 
The sentence was supposed to be “I ate tomato soup for lunch”, but apparently I have no memory for vocabulary while trying to eat my lunch and it came out “yo soy un tomate”
 
That said, it also personally annoys me, and I hesitate to close questions that annoy me. My motives get tangled.
 
GcL
@BardicWizard Sometimes you're a tomato?
 
@GcL I wish I could remember what that references...
 
GcL
JFK was a jelly doughnut
or sometimes you feel like a nut. Sometimes you don't.
 
7:53 PM
And so begins my walk to work, pondering what it means to truly be a tomato
 
GcL
Add to your consideration, a brief ~20 minute period of time during which you focus solely on the task at hand.
 
 
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Q: Does a Tortle's Natural Armor interfere with the Monk's Unarmored Movement ability?

Thomas MarkovThe Tortle's Natural Armor ability says: Due to your shell and the shape of your body, you are ill-suited to wearing armor. Your shell provides ample protection, however; it gives you a base AC of 17 (your Dexterity modifier doesn’t affect this number). You gain no benefit from wearing armor, bu...

 
So...just noticed that a +10 unanswered question was also crossposted on arts/crafts the same day.
 
10:16 PM
I just hope the querent comes back and posts answers once they've tried it and can support such answers
 
10:37 PM
@JohnP A link to the Q&A on Arts & Crafts SE, for others' benefit:
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11:10 PM
@V2Blast oh right. good plan.
 
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Q: What could be done to improve the question about Joules of energy required to lift in-game objects?

nijinekothe question How many Joules does strength values ten through twenty estimate to? a lot of negative votes and was voted to be closed very quickly... and I don't understand why. What could be done to improve the question about Joules of energy required to lift in-game objects?

 
11:43 PM
Ugh motivation is the hard part of essay writing
My history teacher assigned an overnight essay on a Friday, last period, and with no prior warning
Seriously, it’s FRIDAY. It should be the weekend, not the day I pull an all-nighter
 
How many words?
 
3 pages. Standard WHAP essay, which means 3 double spaced pages. Too many words, if you ask me
 
In less than 24 hours? Woof, that's practically a surprise blue book test.
 

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